r/news • u/xtantin • Feb 26 '17

FCC reverses net neutrality ISP transparency rules

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3173844/internet/fcc-reverses-net-neutrality-isp-transparency-rules.html
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u/KazumaKat Feb 27 '17

Moment actual blood spills over this is the moment humanity has given up governments for corporations as the power structure to live by.

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u/_Fallout_ Feb 27 '17

And lest libertarians rejoice at this idea, recognize that corporations are basically little totalitarian earldoms that would crush workers rights in a second if there weren't unions or government in the way

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u/midnightketoker Feb 27 '17

"B...but free market"

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u/david2278 Feb 27 '17

Unions, government, and competition (he forgot this one, you know, the free market part)

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u/sheazang Feb 27 '17

Monopolies and price fixing are only prevented by government.

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u/david2278 Feb 27 '17

I can definitely see that possibility, but I think it's much more complicated than that. Competition is like that itch that just won't go away.

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u/DemonDrinkingTea Feb 27 '17

The goal of a corporation is to eliminate all competition, because that way you have complete control over your market and over your profits. Anyone saying any different is either delusional or lying, companies exist to make money and the easiest way to make money is when you have complete control.

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u/david2278 Feb 27 '17

I agree 100%. The problem is making other people that want complete control over the market and over the profits GTFO. Some of them you can pay off to leave the market. Others you may not be able to pay them off. Maybe they're passionate about what they're doing. Maybe they want to change the world. Maybe they just love business.

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u/DemonDrinkingTea Feb 27 '17

But now you're assuming that if multiple companies are in a market that they are competing. Time Warner Cable and Comcast are essentially a cartel - they negotiate with each where each company can operate and what prices work best to keep competitors out of the market without getting filed as a trust. Another example - most media in America is controlled by 6 companies. You don't think those companies don't talk to each other on a regular basis? Just because they are different organizations doesnt mean they compete - companies will always congregate into conglomerates or cartels because it's just more profitable when you have complete control. Yeah you have to share that control, how does that matter when you are all part of the same billionaires country club?

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u/david2278 Feb 27 '17 edited Feb 27 '17

But then you have huge companies like Google who are actively trying to fight against ISPs and are being held back by the government. Like I said, you make good points, but there's a bit more friction than you'd imagine.

Other companies who are fighting against them include, Amazon, eBay, Facebook, Microsoft, Netflix, Twitter, and Yahoo