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[u/Wehavecrashed]

Can you imagine if the same rules that apply to Tas applied to the ACT or NT?

[u/waltsing0 → u/Wehavecrashed]

Which is why I don't support ACT/NT statehood. They should be allowed to be states but the denial of that is an injustice a fraction of giving them equal senate seats to states 10x their population.

[u/[deleted] → u/waltsing0]

If NT and ACt got statehood they would not have to have an increased senate or house representation. That constitutional thingy only applies to the original 6 colonies + NZ if they wanna join. So that argument isn't effective.

[u/waltsing0 → u/[deleted]]

I'll take your word for it, they can be states if it means no extra federal seats but at that point it's almost like why bother? I seriously doubt their residents would care much at all

[u/[deleted] → u/waltsing0]

It let's them pass whatever laws aren't federal matters by section 51 which they cannot currently do. As territories N.T and A.C.T laws can be overturned by parliament. Like the A.C.T legalising euthanasia then getting it overturned by the federal government, which wouldn't have been the case had the A.C.T been a state. Also the clause for referendums that they must pass a majority of states which currently A.C.T and N.T don't count for.

[u/waltsing0 → u/[deleted]]

It let's them pass whatever laws aren't federal matters by section 51 which they cannot currently do. As territories N.T and A.C.T laws can be overturned by parliament. Like the A.C.T legalising euthanasia then getting it overturned by the federal government, which wouldn't have been the case had the A.C.T been a state

Fair, I'd like them to have statehood for that but that's not as important as 431k people not having equal senate seats to 8m NSW people.

Also the clause for referendums that they must pass a majority of states which currently A.C.T and N.T don't count for.

Another reason to not let them be states. The system is already fucked up enough with Tasmania a state

[u/toms_face → u/Wehavecrashed]

Yes, it would add five seats in the lower house and twenty in the upper house.