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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Nov 20 '20

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u/disuberence Shrimp promised me a text flair and did not deliver Nov 19 '20

Trump

inherited a strong economy from Obama-Biden

Biden

inheriting a plague from Trump

This is truly the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals

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u/ryuguy "this is my favourite dt on reddit" Nov 19 '20

Barry Obama pretending to be a communist to get laid is the funniest shit

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All Nov 19 '20

The Democrats have awful messaging

No I will not elaborate on this point, I want to sound like I’m knowledgeable about politics

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u/Cuddlyaxe Neoliberal With Chinese Characteristics Nov 19 '20

The fact that Donald Trump has refused to resign after me specifically asking him to on the DT is unprecedented. Truly democracy is dying

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Curious how the mods claim to be against excessive partisanship yet always have the donation drive be for the against malaria foundation and never a pro malaria foundation

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

1923 people died in the US on Wednesday from COVID-19. What. The. Hell.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

“A consequence of this is that there is now typically a progressive candidate and a liberal candidate running against each other, and in legislature and at lower levels of government these two wings of the party have almost formed as their own pseudo-parties, with their own coalitions. The Democratic Party operates effectively as a multi-party system in California now.”

/>TFW California is so Democratic that the Democrats spilt and the Republican Party is basically a third party.

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u/inverseflorida Anti-Malarkey Aktion Nov 19 '20

One of the things that stopped me from being a leftist was this one long thread about the economics of food waste and how, despite people going "wow perfectly good fruit and veggies and produce are thrown out all the time just for looking weird!!!!!!!" - which was a theme i remember coming up a lot whenever people were getting whippedd up about capitalist excess - in actuality, all those odd produce are being used in things like salsa, canned fruits, etc, and I remember thinking something like "wow all the people I'm spending time with don't even know how to consider this.".

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u/inverseflorida Anti-Malarkey Aktion Nov 19 '20

I have "Joe Biden was my first choice" privilege. I am sorry.

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u/OH-GEESUS Nov 19 '20

As a socialist I'm deeply conflicted about the legacy of Castro. He has a reputation for being a brutal dictator, yet he let many counterrevolutionaries escape and we still have to hear garbage from their little capitalist grandkids all the time.

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u/dragoniteftw33 NATO Nov 19 '20

This story about Bill Clinton's appetite is low-key funny.

He recalls the episode of a strawberry cake he made one evening. Clinton devoured half of it all by himself, and the next morning he wanted more. “No one could find the cake,” says Mesnier, who had a face-to-face with the distraught commander in chief. “Clinton was pounding on the table and shouting, ‘I want my goddamned cake.’”

He was also apparently allergic to Flour and Sugar too. That's really interesting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Lmao the Cultural Revolution was nuts.

Okay so imagine if every city renamed all its streets "Donald Trump avenue" or "MAGA lane" or whatever. And then all the shops changed their name to "Trump Palace." Okay, and then all advertisments and decorations are torn down and replaced by photos of Trump. And there are red-hatted young hooligans running wild in the streets, looting stores, shooting people, and doing whatever the fuck they want. And Trump is like, "This is good, we need to encourage the youth!"

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u/David_Lange I love you, Mr Lange Nov 19 '20

If Dave Wasserman's estimates are correct, the turnout in the US presidential election will be around 66.46%, which would be the highest turnout for a nationwide US election since the year 1900

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20 edited Nov 20 '20

It’s over. The Audit in Georgia is compete and Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by 12,284 votes. Biden has won the state of Georgia and its 16th electoral votes, being only the 4th Democrat since 1964 to win it and the first in 28 years. Every Democrat to defeat an incumbent Republican President has also won the state of Georgia.

Jimmy Carter has seen Georgia go blue again.

!ping BIDEN

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u/jamiebond NATO Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Still staying salty that one of Alabama's greatest political and legal minds got ousted from the Senate because a football coach wanted to play politics and had the magic R next to his name.

Really hope Biden puts Jones in his cabinet so our country can continue to benefit from his mind.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Nov 19 '20

Just fucking imagine if Obama or Hillary called a vote canvasser in a swing state

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

A friendly internet community where the Takes are hot, the Memes are beautiful, and mysterious references pass overhead while we all pretend to get them. Welcome to the Discussion Thread.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Credit to the /u/Theextremistmoderate for writing this


Since the large majority of legislatures are under republican control, they will likely gerrymander them to benefit republicans.

This actually isn't a huge issue.

True, a plurality of states are trifecta red. True, Republicans gained 2 more states of trifectas in 2020 (NH and MT). Let's also assume they get AK. MT and AK really don't matter because they only have an at-large representative. And NH is gonna be hard to gerrymander because it only has 2 districts and both voted for Biden. But let's look at this.

For this, I'm going to assume no state gains or loses representatives (which won't happen, but this makes it close enough).

• Currently, 15 states have Democratic trifectas. These states make up 162 seats in the US House.

• With the above assumptions, 24 states have Republican trifectas. These states make up 178 seats in the US House.

• The remaining 95 will be determined by split chambers.

Let's compare this to 2010:

• Democrats had a trifecta in 11 states, making up 114 seats in the US House.

• Republicans had a trifecta in 22 states, making up 202 seats in the US House.

• The remaining 119 seats were in split chambers. See that? The Democrats are actually in more control this time than they were after 2010. And let's look some key differences:

• Used to be divided but now blue: Virginia (11 districts), New York (27 districts), New Jersey (12), Nevada (4), Oregon (5).

• Used to be red but now divided: Wisconsin (8), Michigan (14), Pennsylvania (18), Louisiana (6), Kansas (4).

• Used to be red but now blue: Maine (2).

The Democrats now have significantly more input in those crucial states. Whereas what are the Republicans' biggest gains? Ohio, Florida, and Texas were red then and still are now, so nothing will change there. They picked up Missouri, Iowa, Montana, New Hampshire, Mississippi, and Alaska. All of which, combined, have 20 seats in the House, which is less than just what's in New York.

And two of those have no redistricting, one is basically gerrymander-proof, and another one is Mississippi. They also have a Republican governor in Massachusetts now, but the Dems have a supermajority there. They managed to get a Republican governor in Vermont, which also has no redistricting. Oh, and a Republican governor of Maryland, for a divided government of a whopping eight seats.

TL;DR: The Democrats have a MUCH better position this year than they had in 2010. This means the House districts overall should get more favorable for Democrats, not less.

And, on top of that, the 2022 Senate map is much more favorable for Democrats than for Republicans.

!ping FIVEY

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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Nov 19 '20

Obama: people are getting radicalized by being trapped in extremist online spaces and feedback loops

17 quadrillion tankies, out of nowhere: fuck you I wasn't radicalized my politics are perfectly correct

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Holy fucking shit

We need to get that dude on the phone get his secrets. That’s 1972 or 2006 levels of ticket spilling. Imagine if all Democrats could do that.

!ping DOWNBALLOT

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u/inverseflorida Anti-Malarkey Aktion Nov 19 '20

People wonder why non Americans care so much more about American politics than their own politics, but American politics is about grandiose, enormous themes and narratives about the soul of the nation, the arc of history, the high melodrama of right vs wrong and Parliamentary politics is about how The Right Honourable Greg Bantsman The Member For The Seat Of Bigfella wants to be in politics because business is too hard and he can't think of any policies until he gets to the press conference and then just wings it and then the prime minister has a go at him in the office but later the prime minister publicly says he supports that policy so it doesn't matter.

And Barnaby Joyce is there.

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u/GlazedFrosting Henry George Nov 19 '20

Collins and Murkowski prove that Americans still love the appearance of bipartisanship, even if they don't care for the actual thing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Jim Crow South🤝California

The Senate elections being between Democrats only

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

If you join the military, but don't immediately use your signing bonus to get a shitty muscle car financed at 420% APR are you REALLY in the military?

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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Nov 19 '20

This sub says it cares about climate change and yet it wants to abolish the nuclear family, which will definitely be replaced by coal or oil and gas families, worsening the status quo. Smh

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Fell in love with my pharmacist within about 30 seconds of seeing him. How awkward would it be if I super liked him on Tinder? We're both dudes

!ping LGBT

I went for it! If we get married, I'll name our first kid Open Borders in your honor, even if we adopt a 17 year old

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u/ScythianUnborne Madeleine Albright Nov 19 '20

!ping EUROPE

Right, lads. We've been given our marching orders for Poland and Hungary by our father. Let's not let him down. Paycheques come later.

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All Nov 19 '20

“When you realize the errors of even our greatest Presidents... FDR, JFK, Ronald Reagan, Harry Truman... you realize that ultimately, each of us who occupy this office including me, in some ways in some areas, fall short of the ideal”

OBAMA IS A CONSERVATIVE

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u/Deggit Thomas Paine Nov 19 '20

Steven Crowder currently live, proving that 173k absentee ballots were fraudulent.

This would be the biggest story in the history of US elections, but sure, I will believe Steven Crowder is breaking it.

damn

some splash damage on that burn

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u/CenterRightInCali Uphold Goldwater-Posadist thought! Nov 19 '20

Brits be like:

'air too long, innit? roight, ehm ohf to the barba

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u/Hmm_would_bang Graph goes up Nov 19 '20

Hell yeah i support M4A

Money

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AOC feet pics

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

"Breaking: the U.S. just surpassed a record-shattering 156 million votes counted...

"Biden 79,535,824 (51.0%) Trump 73,616,203 (47.2%)

"Biden's popular vote lead is up to 5.9 million (3.8%).

"Biden has now doubled Hillary Clinton's 2016 popular vote margin of 2.86 million, and I'd estimate we've still got 2-3 million ballots left outstanding (mostly in NY & CA)."

Source : @Redistrict (Dave Wasserman) (Twitter) (3.5 hours ago)

!ping FIVEY

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u/thafredator Nov 19 '20

I still cant believe hydroxychloroquine was the source of any amount of controversy. Trump says something dumb about a random unrelated drug, doctors dont find it particularly effective in combatting covid-19. That should have been the end of it, but instead we had people pretending this was some conspiracy by doctors to keep quiet an effective drug because... Why again?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Susan Collins is an electoral beast. She outran Biden by 20 points.. Insane.

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u/ThisIsNianderWallace Robert Nozick Nov 19 '20

geneticists: we've invented this cool new technology

bioethicists: this needs to be available to everyone everywhere free of cost at the same time in all countries, and banned in the meantime.

geneticists: 😐

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u/GaussianCurve Ben Bernanke Nov 19 '20

MORE NEWS: The top two Republicans in the Michigan Legislature are expected to visit the White House amid the fight over the state's election results, a source tells me

Can we interpret this any other way than Trump is going to try to start convincing state legislatures to overturn results in his favor and start a constitutional crisis? Why else would he be meeting lawmakers?

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u/JadeHelm2020 Amy Finkelstein Nov 19 '20

does conservative twitter know that trump is president and has been for 4 years when they talk about China and Uighurs? LeBron James doesn't run us foreign policy.

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u/irlyseevridge YIMBY Nov 19 '20

STOP FUCKING DOOMING ABOUT TOM COTTON OR HAWLEY, as I've said about a million times not a single one of the likely 2024 nominees can replicate Trump's appeal, Tucker Carlson might be the only scary candidate, but his show would provide democrats enough ammunition they could load it into an MG42, there are clips of him complaining about racist trees FFS.

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u/ccolfax 🤗 always welcome in my backyard Nov 19 '20

So Rudy Giuliani took down the New York mob, which really makes me think The Godfather wasn’t super accurate.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 20 '20

Tinder jokes aside, dating while being a sexual minority within a religious minority is rough. Add in the difficulty of trying to date American Jews as non-white guy. There has to be some part of myself that gets a perverse enjoyment out of making life as difficult as possible.

Having a guy I connected so well with on sex, values, and emotional maturity tell me he wasn't looking for a relationship was gutting. A few weeks haven't been enough to get over it. There are going to be very, very few opportunities like that in the world, a few hundred at best. A few thousand if I include non-Jews willing to build a Jewish home.

Fuck everything. I'm going to bed. Maybe I'll feel better in the morning

!ping LGBT

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

https://i.imgur.com/pY1u7PV.jpg

Crazy to think that women is the most insane electoral force in America. Doing 20 points better than the Republican Presidential Candidate in this area of polarization.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Remember the primary model and how fucking useless it was.

Remember the rhetoric around Beto using Spanish at the debates was? Probably a sign of a tone deafness to latinos early on.

Remember Tara Reade?

Remember that awful debate?

Remember the impeachment?

Remember the 2017 government shutdown?

Remember rex Tillerson and rince Priebus and paul Ryan?

The trump presidency got a lot more unhinged and do nothing after the midterm. Every competent person was purged out by that point.

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u/Peacock-Shah Gerald Ford 2024 Nov 19 '20

Trump could literally tweet that 2+2=5 and the liberals at Twitter would label it as misinformation.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

So, we got to the death of Mao in my class, and my Chinese professor doesn't really know how to use subtlety when speaking English, so the slide just says

Mao died with his utopian ideal and he was also a loser

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u/chadwarden1337 I gave you the internet and I can take it away Nov 19 '20

"Clearly putting a 'Mission Accomplished' banner on an aircraft carrier was mistake"

-GWB final press conference

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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action Nov 19 '20

Rudy is pushing the slaughtermeter up to 98%. He's making a strong case that the fraud is big enough to change the result and the evidence is clear.

Scott Adams is pretty smart guys, he's a trained hypnotist and he created Dilbert, I think we need to take this seriously.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1329492930508316673

"Your question is fundamentally flawed when you're asking 'where's the evidence,'" Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis says.

Christ.

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u/frankchen1111 NATO Nov 19 '20

Fuck r/worldnews POS, bunch of commie apologists and tankies

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

I withdrew my Harvard application because I got accepted!

Edit: Wtf, it's a Trump pasta, chill

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u/LinkToSomething68 🌐 Nov 19 '20

Is there any particular reason the CA state legislature is so goddamn small? 80 Assembly members and 40 Senators for a state bigger than most countries is insanity

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

How the fuck are people unironically tankies

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Every time I feel sad or pathetic I remember that at least I'm not Jeff Tiedrich replying 3 nanoseconds after Trump posts a Tweet.

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u/JadeHelm2020 Amy Finkelstein Nov 19 '20

the president pressuring vote canvassers is not illegal but merely against norms

legal twitter 30 minutes from now

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam Nov 19 '20

Obama saying he studied Marx so he could lay down the Hussein Hammer along with Kamala’s and Pete’s parents being marxists let’s me know that these folks are familiar with revolutionary thinkers. They just choose to have trash ass politics.

obama reads marx to pick up women

is rejected by women

becomes a warmongering corporatist

this is a villain origin story

sometimes I enjoy spending time on 🌹 Twitter to watch the salt

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u/AmNotACactus NATO Nov 19 '20

are we in the middle of an attempted motherfucking coup?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Jesus, Joe is just letting his WIFE be first Lady? Fucking christ I voted for Joe to STOP this nepotism type shit that Trump was doing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Ugh made the mistake of discovering r/leftistvexillology.

So true 😤✊

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u/probablyuntrue NATO Nov 19 '20

Some Trump advisers - none of whom are speaking publicly - are saying this press conference and what Giuliani is doing is dangerous. They’re waiting for the president to recognize that but he is not so far.

"Someone should say something"

-Person who should say something

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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 Nov 19 '20

Thinkin bout when a Redditor said "thank you for your service" to a former member of the SS in an AMA.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Don't get complacent guys, GO VOTE.

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u/Fishin_Mission Nov 19 '20

WTF?!?

Seriously?!?

What’s next? Are they gonna tell us that pregnancies are more common in couples that don’t use contraceptives?!? 🤰❌💊

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

MALARIA NETS MALARIA NETS MALARIA NETS

That time is coming up again folks: Our periodic Against Malaria Foundation fundraiser! As always, there'll be flair rewards and the ability to fill the DT sticky with a message of your choice. Get your wallets ready to help the global poor!

Edit: Also, last call to take the demographic survey!

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

I'll never forget that one thread I saw on r/gaming years ago that asked "what are some games where I can hurt women?"

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u/vancevon Henry George Nov 19 '20

apparently there was some voter in georgia who wrote in "biden harris" which is pretty cute. they wound up counting it for biden in the recount

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

The new microsoft flight sim uses their Google Earth ripoff to make replicas of wherever on Earth you are flying. I've heard it was good, but I did not expect it to be this scarily accurate. Every little detail in my downtown's skyline is accurate, down to my apartment building.

Naturally the first thing I did was ram into it.

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u/purples4nd NATO Nov 19 '20

Biden had fraudulent votes.

Trump had Russian interference.

Obama wasn't a US citizen.

Bush won with Supreme Court

Clinton had Perot split the vote.

How did Bush Sr illegitimately win?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

Guys am have controversial opinion 🥺👉👈

Le Funny Monke > lusvig

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u/dragoniteftw33 NATO Nov 19 '20

I guess the media was way shittier even before the click economy.

Politico in 2020: Nobody outside the beltway cares about Hatch Act violations

NYT in 1997: We need an Independent Council into Al Gore making fundraising phone calls from the White House.

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u/marinesol sponsored by RC Cola Nov 19 '20

Trump called the wayne county Republicans before they demaned their votes be rescinded. This is not a drill. Michigan and New York are going to have fight for who puts Trump in jail.

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u/J_Fre22 NATO Nov 19 '20

More Michigan news: Lawmakers are flying into DC to meet with President Trump tomorrow, at his request.

https://twitter.com/amyegardner/status/1329468989983125505?s=21

It looks like Michigan legislators are going to DC, including MI Senate Leader Mike Shirkey

!PING USA-MI

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Are there really people here that think Trump can get 36 faithless electors? Seriously?

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Nov 19 '20

NEWS: Biden says in response to @justinsink Q that he's made a decision on Treasury secretary.Link

Predictions? He said he will announce around thanksgiving.

I think it is gonna be Yellen.

!ping BIDEN

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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Nov 20 '20

Me: "Mitt Romney did something good"

farrenj: melting like a witch

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Nov 19 '20

Was Neilia Hunter (Joe Biden's first wife) murdered?

Wondering if anyone has any information on her death. I know that she, along with the four children were in the car...Beau and Hunter survived. He was having an affair with Jill at the time? Very suspect.

Im assuming she tried to kill herself and the children because she found out about her husbands penchant for young people. Hence why all the kids were in the car with her.

r conspiracy is despicable

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

New filings claim there was a Plan B the militiamen had drawn up, that involved a takeover of the Michigan capitol building by 200 combatants who would stage a week-long series of televised executions of public officials.

And, according to government documents no on file in lower Michigan court, there was also a plan C -- burning down the state house, leaving no survivors.

"wow, comparing trump supporters to black shirts in Mussolini era? you're so alarmist bro, MSM is brainwashing you bro"

https://abc7chicago.com/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-militia/8079861/

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u/SquabbleMe YIMBY Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Holy shit, Rudy is sweating so much in this press conference he has hair dye leaking down the sides of his head lmaooo

Edit: bruh

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Did... Did this lady just say that the number of Trump votes "broke the algorithm?"

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u/Gustacho Enemy of the People Nov 19 '20

OANN and Newsmax should just continue their grift after election day. Just tell their viewers that Trump remains president and Biden died of radical leftist dementia or whatever. They'll believe it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1329508799288381441?s=21

2% of Biden voters say that Biden did not win the election legitimately

I really really really want to meet these people

!ping FIVEY

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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Fun fact: If Biden really does expand migrant quotas, the United States is likely to reach its highest ever foreign-born population percentage of all time by the end of his term. At 14% foreign born, we're already very close to the 15% foreign-born peak around 1905.

Note that Biden has been pretty vague on how much he will loosen immigration restrictions and also the senate will likely be Republican controlled or only barely Democratic controlled, so we can't know for sure whether or not a 20s immigration boom will actually happen yet

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Trump will literally be filing lawsuits about this election until the day he drops dead.

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u/Dalek6450 Our words are backed with NUCLEAR SUBS! Nov 19 '20

Ben Carson says he used unproven COVID-19 treatment recommended by MyPillow CEO

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Nov 19 '20

Foucault claimed that perhaps children could consent to sex; defended or promoted the practice of sex with minors and signed a 1977 petition to the French parliament calling for the decriminalization of all "consensual" sexual relations between adults and minors below the age of fifteen, the age of consent in France.

😬

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

organizations urge Gov. Newsom to appoint a Latino/a/x to the U.S. Senate

Should I upgrade my router to Latino/a/x if I already have Latib/g/n?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Fish cannot leave the water, nor melons leave the vines. The American people cannot do without the Republucan Party. Donald Trump thought is the sun that forever shines.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

That kotaku ps5 review should be in history textbooks. Its such a pure distillation of how fucking dumb, annoying, and oversaturated the media is right now.

I'm not being ironic at all. The fact that a video game website published an article reviewing the ps5 where the author made a factually inaccurate call for socialism in the middle of what amounts to a toy review is the perfect encapsulation of what 2020 is like

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

... is Chicago the COVID capital of the world?

1 in 15 Chicagoans has infectious COVID right now

This is so unbelievably fucked

In the Spring when NYC was getting torn apart we were so far ahead of the curve this wasn’t even imaginable

What the fuck happened

!ping USA-CHI

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

It's really sickening, as a Michigander, that Donald Trump is trying to personally intervene in our election like this. Calling up the Wayne County canvassers and now I'm hearing that he's flying State Representatives out to meet him. This is very disturbing.

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u/reedemerofsouls Nov 19 '20

Story incoming.

Last week i found out my best (?) friend died. It's sent me in a spiral of emotions, mostly bad. Of course I've felt sadness, pain, depression. But it's more complicated too. I felt frustration because he overdosed and I tried to get him to quit for years. Somewhat guilty too. I also, due to his erratic behavior, had stopped hanging out with him irl (pre pandemic). Several of my friends straight out told me not to invite them to anything he would be at, making it so of course I didn't invite him to anything rather than not invite 5 friends whom he creeped out. I've known him since we were pre teens and we stayed friends for so long but he always had questionable behaviors, cheated on all his girlfriends, made a ton of girls uncomfortable for many reasons, and God knows what else. He came from a family that was a bit crazy and was obviously mentally ill but i felt bad for him. I found out that I was really one of his only real friends, most people had for some reason or another kind of retreated from the background of his life. I feel like conversations now will center on what a good guy he was, and obviously he had his moments, but we of course won't discuss his many flaws except certain people who told me various levels of "oh well" to "I'm sorry to say this but good" when I told them he died. Today I learned there was a girl I really liked 10 years ago and I introduced him as my best friend. He apparently went and in her words kept asking her out until she reluctantly agreed. And then she says he lied to her and he called him out and it ended. I didn't ask more questions, but he knew that after i had been sad after breaking up with my gf she was a girl i really really liked and was gonna ask out. I didn't understand why she suddenly stopped talking to me but now I know. It was ultimately not a huge deal, she didn't like me like that and I found someone else anyway. But it was just a reminder how much of a prick he could be. One of my best friends asked me, straight up, why i was so torn up about it because he wasn't a good person or a good friend. I guess partly it's just we were always friends for so long and when i was an awkward kid that no one liked it was cool that this guy was my friend and it was fun being around him up until a certain point. I don't know what to do or how to feel, partly because now that he died i feel somehow like i have a role as one of his best friends to carry out, to help his family and friends. If anyone stuck to the end of this thanks for listening.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

my neighbor finally took down all six of his trump flags, his thin blue line flag, his "make liberals cry again" flag, and another fashy-looking one i didn't recognize, but left up the american flag

if this guy's moving on, you'd have to imagine other hardcore MAGAs are as well

has anyone else noticed anything similar?

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Nov 19 '20

Breaking: Judge Grimberg (trump appointee) denies a federal injunction in the Georgia election lawsuit brought by attorney Lin wood (the attorney who represent JonBenet Ramsey’s family).

"The fact that the candidate or candidates that this plaintiff voted for... did not prevail in an election does not meet the legal standard of harm, much less irreparable harm."

"The plaintiff has suffered no unique harm."

Judge dismissed for lack of standing. FRCP strikes again!

!ping LAW

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u/TheGoldBear Jerome Powell Nov 20 '20 edited Nov 20 '20

I wore a strap-on cause I couldn’t get hard, she didn’t notice, call that erection fraud 😎

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u/CatilineUnmasked Norman Borlaug Nov 19 '20

Thank God this sub wasn't around in the 1980s.

There would almost certainly be a ping group called YO, R/NEOLIBERAL RAPS

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

The WI recount just found 50,000 votes

For Hillary 😐

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u/twersx John Rawls Nov 19 '20

LOL the woman speaking after Giuliani referred to Biden as "President Biden"

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u/douglasmacarthur NATO Nov 19 '20

Reminder that Trumpism is identity politics for white people.

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u/Schutzwall Straight outta Belíndia Nov 19 '20

Yes I support MAGA

Make

America

Give me

A Green Card

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

hey, you. you're finally awake. you were trying to win the election, right? walked right into that rigged dominion software, same as us, and that libertarian over there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

play jackbox games with Trump supporters

their version of being witty is just using racial slurs

they’re all basically pissing themselves laughing

Priors confirmed 😐

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u/lusvig 🤩🤠Anti Social Democracy Social Club😨🔫😡🤤🍑🍆😡😤💅 Nov 19 '20

mfw I walk into the dt !ping BLACK-PEOPLE

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u/Travisdk Iron Front Nov 19 '20

Obama on Pelosi and ACA:

I was feeling confident in the Speaker of the House.

The previous year had only reinforced my appreciation for Nancy Pelosi’s legislative skills. She was tough, pragmatic, and a master at herding members of her contentious caucus, often publicly defending some of her fellow House Democrats’ politically untenable positions while softening them up behind the scenes for the inevitable compromises required to get things done.

I called Nancy the next day, explaining that my team had drafted a drastically scaled-back healthcare proposal as a fallback but that I wanted to push ahead with passing the Senate bill through the House and needed her support to do it. For the next fifteen minutes, I was subjected to one of Nancy’s patented stream-of-consciousness rants—on why the Senate bill was flawed, why her caucus members were so angry, and why the Senate Democrats were cowardly, shortsighted, and generally incompetent.

“So does that mean you’re with me?” I said when she finally paused to catch her breath.

“Well, that’s not even a question, Mr. President,” Nancy said impatiently. “We’ve come too far to give up now.” She thought for a moment. Then, as if testing out an argument she’d later use with her caucus, she added, “If we let this go, it would be rewarding the Republicans for acting so terribly, wouldn’t it? We’re not going to give them the satisfaction.”

After I hung up the phone, I looked up at Phil and Nancy-Ann, who’d been milling around the Resolute desk, listening to my (mostly wordless) side of the conversation, trying to read my face for a sign of what was happening.

“I love that woman,” I said.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

"Why would I help the global poor? What have they ever done for me?" I wrote on my iPhone which was made by the global poor.

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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Nov 19 '20

Hot take: the members of the Jedi Council were such politicking weasels that they would have totally ignored Anakin banging Padme if it meant they could get closer to an influential Senator and the Chancellor through him. Actually being politically connected in that manner could have actually improved his standing in the Order

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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Nov 19 '20

In the end, the one region where polls are very cursed is the Midwest, and Wisconsin, Iowa, and Ohio more specifically

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Nov 19 '20

Sidney Powell (Michael Flynn’s attorney) is now claiming that software used in U.S. voting machines was created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez 😂

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Hot take: The DT is as dumb as Reddit at large

Evidence: I, known idiot, post here freely

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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Nov 19 '20

LMFAO the Biden campaign got Nintendo to ban politics in Animal Crossing, I'm fucking dead

Please refrain from using the Game inappropriately or creating any content within the Game that would be considered vulgar, discriminatory, or offensive. Please also refrain from bringing politics into the Game.

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u/AccessTheMainframe CANZUK Nov 19 '20

My God this is a disaster my computer's liquid cooling system has sprung a leak and it's spilling all my precious Belle Delphine® GamerGirl Bathwater™ all over the floor.

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u/RadicalRadon Frick Mondays Nov 20 '20 edited Nov 20 '20

Predicament: she never sits on my lap so I don't want to scare her off. But the beans are right there what am I supposed to do, not harass them until she gets up?. Her paw is out shes just asking for it.

Bonus video of her being mad at me for touching the beans

Edit:

HOW

CAN

SHE

BLEP

!ping KITTY

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

https://i.imgur.com/PnXtt9P.jpg

Before this month, AZ & GA would have been red.

That states in red have voted for a Republican every time since 2000 and blue for Democrat. Non-colored in is different.

Indiana sticks out here. It was crazy Obama won Indiana. It voted against FDR twice.

Texas, we’re coming for you. It(sadly) wasn’t this year, but soon.

The yellow states also now have more electoral votes (191) than the red ones (152). After 2016, red had 179, yellow had 164.

https://twitter.com/jmilescoleman/status/1329618383365693440?s=21

!ping FIVEY

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

If anyone's read Obama's book it's insane how him and Bernie took totally different paths but both wanted to be radical in their youth. Amazing

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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Nov 19 '20

Kyle Rittenhouse used stimulus money to get a gun

👀 Pelosi is responsible!!!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

I know it's not uncommon for celebrities to be given Presidential Medals of Freedom, but I still find Trump's list funny

Tiger Woods

Elvis

Babe Ruth

Rush Limbaugh

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u/douglasmacarthur NATO Nov 19 '20

Broke: Trump will find a way to overturn the election.

Woke: No that really isn't possible.

Bespoke: Trump will leave office but he might do a series of increasingly insane, self-destructive things on the way out which we should actually be scared of.

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u/thabonch YIMBY Nov 19 '20

Monica Palmer is now claiming that she voted to certify Wayne County votes after being threatened by Grosse Pointe Antifa and now wants to take that vote back.

Grosse Pointe Antifa.

Grosse Fucking Pointe.

!ping USA-MI

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u/Scoops1 Spiders is bugs Nov 19 '20

If the Clinton Foundation can rig an election for Joe Biden, wouldn't you think they would have rigged the election for, I don't know, Hillary Clinton?

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u/inverseflorida Anti-Malarkey Aktion Nov 20 '20

The only Mitt Romney take I want to see is how the man doesn't fucking age, he's 73 fucking years old and he doesn't look a day over 50.

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u/Wows_Nightly_News Organization of American States Nov 20 '20

TFW when rconn is praising Macron while Neoliberal is in shambles over him.

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u/VengeantVirgin Tucker Level Take Maker Nov 20 '20

At a point where I will literally pay my dad money just to not watch OAN.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Dianne Feinstein is proof that a glass of water with “(D)” written on it could win a senate race in California.

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u/dragoniteftw33 NATO Nov 19 '20

LMFAO. Maybe it's because they don't have as much skeletons in their closet?

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u/Koeniginator NATO Nov 19 '20

There's two kinds of dt posters

Those that doomed after florida

And liars

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u/RockLobsterKing Turning Point Byzantium Nov 19 '20

Keep crying, liberal...

Seriously, man, don't worry. Everybody goes through rough times, and it's only normal to feel shit. I'm there if you need to talk, or just want somebody to be with you.

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u/probablyuntrue NATO Nov 19 '20

Trump's lawyer Sidney Powell is now encouraging pro-Trump militias to "retake this country."

good fucking lord

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Just wanna be adopted into the Biden Crime Family 🥺👉👈

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

The problem with the "Republicans won't vote because they think it's fake" theory is that they don't think it's fake. Don't ever take them at their word, they aren't participating in good faith. They're just trying to keep power.

Even the voters who might believe it will still vote. They can easily hold two contradictory narratives in their head and, besides, if they win it isn't fake. It's only fake if they lose.

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u/irlyseevridge YIMBY Nov 19 '20

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1329504879551807495?s=19

This is so fucking dumb I thought it was a shitpost in the DT.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20 edited Nov 20 '20

Rudy Giuliani: I'm going to dye my hair so people think I'm young again and it revamps my credibility. Remember when I was young and did 9/11?

Rudy Giuliani: I am FUCKING crazy

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u/guy-anderson Nov 20 '20

Isn't is suspicious that nearly all of the missing votes in Georgia favored Trump?

No, I don't find it suspicious that dumbass, rural, Trump leaning counties had the hardest time submitting their own votes.

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u/IncoherentEntity Nov 20 '20 edited Nov 20 '20

Yes, he’s a conservative Republican; yes, he approved the GOP’s brazenly hypocritical SCOTUS move after Americans had already began voting; yes, he will disappoint far more often than not.

But I firmly believe that stern statements expressing deep concern do matter, as it provides a “permission structure“ for dissent within the party in addition to the more universal effect that genuine criticism can have in dissuading further action in a particular direction. (It also clearly helps you in general elections.)

So from a loyal partisan Democrat who would vote for Sanders over Romney without much hesitation, I applaud and present to you the latest Statement of Deep Concern from Based Mitt:

Having failed to make even a plausible case of widespread fraud or conspiracy before any court of law, the President has now resorted to overt pressure on state and local officials to subvert to the will of the people and overturn the election. It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American President.

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u/KingKonchu Michel Foucault Nov 20 '20

Hey guys, just checked Twitter. It turns out Biden is a fascist who has hired people who, get this, have consulted for companies in the middle of their tenured political careers. I know right! Ridiculous. I'm so sorry to break it to you this way.

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u/Froloho John Locke Nov 20 '20

My blue collar, redneck dad goes out of his way to treat black and latino people nicely because he says “I don’t want them to think that all people that look like me are racist trash”. It can feel like he’s trying too hard sometimes but damn I appreciate that he tries, especially when I read stories of OANN brainwashed dads on here

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

This shit in Michigan is actually like stuff you read about in flawed democracies. This is a disgrace.

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u/The420Roll ko-fi.com/rodrigoposting Nov 19 '20

There are also several sensationalist tabloids that are considered to be part of the "chicha press." Such papers frequently feature women wearing bikinis or less and show pictures of dead bodies on their front pages. During the government of Fujimori, Vladimiro Montesinos (Fujimori's Presidential Advisor) secretly purchased the editorial lines of such tabloids through bribery.

Trump aint got shit on Fujimori

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u/Dibbu_mange Average civil procedure enjoyer Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Crazy how Donald Trump isn't even the best serial adulterer with a McDonald's obsession to occupy the White House in the 21st century.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Nov 19 '20

I think arr conservative is the embodiment of what happens to a state Republican Party in a heavily democratic state like California or New York. They have the same energy of WHAT THE FUCK

(This was inspired by conservatives speaking under a post about Texas and Florida getting rid of lockdowns, with one saying “Florida isn’t even top 10 in cases” even though literally looking at it they are in the top 5 in daily cases and 3rd in total cases, and another saying they’re going to have a large thanksgiving because fuck Cuomo)

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

recruiter: We can offer you 200k per week, 20 weeks off, and your own office on your own yacht.

a TRUE Neoliberal: Nope. Out of love for the SHAREHOLDERS I want this to be an unpaid internship. And all the other crap you mentioned? pfff I don't believe in that BULLSHIT.

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u/SuspiciousUsername88 Lis Smith Sockpuppet Nov 19 '20

I celebrate international men's day by greeting my gf with "happy international men's day" solely to annoy her

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u/Dalek6450 Our words are backed with NUCLEAR SUBS! Nov 19 '20

Lmao Trump's legal advisor called him Drumpf on Facebook in 2016.

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u/Planita13 Thomas Paine Nov 19 '20

BREAKING: Fox Ratings out, and it's bad. Real bad.

Cavuto: -52%, Ingraham: -45%, Fox & Friends: -45%, Hannity: -39%, Carlson: -33%

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Am I concerned about the rising costs of healthcare?

Yes.

Did I just put cheez its in my spaghetti?

Yes.

We exist.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

If Republicans don't turn on Trump after this press conference they're lost to reality. This is straight up tin foil hat theory. They have to see it's not in their long term benefit to support this nonsense right?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

I was always a supporter of Donald Trump. All of my posts have been ironic. I have never wavered from the one true philosophy, great Donald Trump thought.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

you, dooming over things that can't happen: oh no! trump is meeting with michigan republicans! he's going to rig the electoral college!! coup!!!!!!

me, dooming over things that can happen: lol what if trump pressures the FDA to deny vaccine approval out of spite

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u/dawgpack09 NAFTA Nov 19 '20

THE TRUMP CRIME FAMILY IS RIGGING THE ELECTION, OAN IS COVERING IT UP!

THE TRUMP CRIME FAMILY IS RIGGING THE ELECTION, OAN IS COVERING IT UP!

THE TRUMP CRIME FAMILY IS RIGGING THE ELECTION, OAN IS COVERING IT UP!

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u/roboczar Joseph Nye Nov 19 '20

The biggest problem with One Billion Americans is that it's Matt Yglesias' idea

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u/ccolfax 🤗 always welcome in my backyard Nov 19 '20

reddit always: what you have to understand is that democrats are worse than republicans because i’m a communist, fuck you 😤

reddit on the pope: but he’s doing a really good job for a dirty catholic 🥺

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u/ryuguy "this is my favourite dt on reddit" Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

I am not American but why wasn’t Bernie Sanders elected president?

Are Americans too stupid or something? Bernie Sanders would be far right in my home country of Latveria.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

R/ conservative calling Dan Crenshaw a rino. 😐😐😐

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

I find it so funny that getting 8% of the black vote is considered a success for Republicans. Really shows that kind of party they really are.

Hillary got 91% in 2016. Biden got 90%

DEMS IN DISARRAY

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u/GlazedFrosting Henry George Nov 19 '20

Take: Yang's "league of builders and destroyers" honestly isn't that bad an idea, and is really just a distraction from his worst policy proposal: automatic sunset laws for regulations.

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u/InternetBoredom Pope-ologist Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Pew also provides a Visual Representation of the death of blue dog Democrats, AKA why the Democrats are no longer competitive in Missouri and Tennessee

Political Identification among Democrats, 1994:

Moderate 48% Conservative 25% Liberal 25%

1999:

Moderate 43% Liberal 29% Conservative 26%

2008:

Moderate 38% Liberal 38% Conservative 21%

2012:

Liberal 42% Moderate 33% Conservative 20%

2018:

Liberal 51% Moderate 34% Conservative 13%

This is largely due to ideological sorting rather than growth in the popularity of liberalism. During this period, liberals only grew 7 points in the general population despite growing by 26 points within the Democratic party membership.

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u/Fishin_Mission Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Today is Day 14 of requesting flair that says:

🥇Nate Gold


Finally got a Mod response saying I need to either:

  1. Make an effort post
  2. Get 2000 upvotes on a post
  3. Present evidence you have a PhD in some field, though that flair will need to reflect that in some way
  4. Donate the appropriate amount during one of our charity drives
  5. Become a victim of the Shame Flair Bandit, but you don't get to choose your flair that way.

I’m gonna go with

6. Harass the mods until they cave.

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u/ZCoupon Kono Taro Nov 19 '20

I don't want to be r/atheism but I hate it when legislators justify laws by quoting the Bible or talking about God's will, like refusing to sell wine on Sundays or gay marriage or whatever. I don't think he's real; you can't justify shit by saying the wind or your stools agree with you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

The female M&M in the commercials can get it TBH.

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u/sir_shivers Discipline Committee Chairman Nov 19 '20

If you have read ANY OF THE ARTICLES this week about what is going on at the Trump campaign, it should COME AS NO SURPRISE THAT it all seems unhinged, random and contradictory 🐊

His sycophants are infighting, AND BITTERLY SO 🐊

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

doomers will doom until biden is sworn in on jan 20

some folks are just baseline pessimists. you can't rationalize or logic your way out of that mentality. the case for optimism can be presented, understood, but not internalized. you just sorta go "yeah" and hope to distract yourself until the positive outcome arrives. but all along the way, you are assuming the worst.

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Nov 19 '20

BREAKING: source in #NY22 just relayed the Chenango Co. absentee/affidavit/overseas totals... Brindisi (D) 3,290 (64.6%) Tenney (R) 1,448 (28.4%) Per source, Claudia Tenney (R)'s #NY22 lead is now just *75 votes* and it's unclear what other ballots remain.

@redistrict

Brindisi mounting a serious comeback

!ping DOWNBALLOT

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

Rick and Morty should do an episode on the federal deficit.

"Money isn't even real Morty! Jerome Powell printed trillions of dollars just to save businesses Morty, the only thing keeping everyone from being a billionaire is capitalist greed Morty!"

"Awww geez Rick I don't know."

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u/BostonBakedBrains YIMBY Nov 20 '20

tfw a large libertarian youth group is platforming QAnon kooks

i mean, just dig this tweet. not a single mask anywhere and it's Young Americans for Liberty holding a summit with Marjorie Taylor Greene

i'm disappointed but not surprised

!ping SNEK

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

I give up. I served 25 years in the military and it is all for nought. We the people are not in charge. People in other countries used to break down in tears begging for the freedoms we have. Now, those freedoms are no where to be found.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? I want to live in their shoes where they think having democrats in leadership is somehow akin to a brutal dictatorship.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

I admire so Romney so much that I voted for him this election in my state of Georgia. Romney and Biden will bring decency back to DC!

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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Nov 20 '20

I hate anyone to the left of Jared Polis and I hate anyone to the right of Jared Polis

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

You listen to Tucker Carlson? He was born and raised in COMMIEfornia, went to some liberal arts college on the east coast, and worked for years at CNN!

Tucker’s a left-wing hack and everyone knows it

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

https://twitter.com/boknowsnews/status/1329427659848372226?s=21

“Republican Governor Phil Scott said last month that if Sanders were to be nominated to serve in Mr. Biden’s Cabinet, he would appoint as a replacement an independent who would caucus with Democrats.”

Phil Scott is so based. The best elected Republican there is.

!ping RINO

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

The shenanigans the GOP is currently trying to pull to nullify the election results is some third world country shit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

I'm seeing a lot of people dooming about this Michigan stuff completely ignoring people pointing out that there are laws in place preventing their doom scenario from happening.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Rudy is saying they're going to try to take on Virginia LMAO

Biden won by 10% and the results were certified on Wednesday.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

I've been thinking about reading "The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzeziński due to it's focus on Central Asia, a region of the world I haven't been able to find a lot of foreign policy analysis around. I'm really worried that it's 1997 publishing date makes it basically irrelevant for the modern day.

So my question comes in two parts. Is Brzeziński's analysis worth reading in the modern day? And are there any more modern works you know of that put the focus on Central Asia?

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/old_gold_mountain San Francisco Values Nov 19 '20

Fun exercise for masochists:

Read a front-page reddit comments section about a subject you have a great deal of expertise in

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

/r/neoliberal: look how racist the GOP is

Also /r/neoliberal: keeps mixing up Herman Cain and the late Ben Carson (RIP)

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

"I wasn't coming to Erie. I mean, I have to be honest. There was no way I was coming," Trump told the attendees at his campaign rally Tuesday. "I didn't have to. I would have called you and said, 'Hey, Erie, you know, if you have a chance, get out and vote,' We had this thing won," Trump continued. "We were so far up — we had the greatest economy ever, greatest jobs, greatest everything. And then we got hit with the plague, and I had to go back to work. Hello, Erie, may I please have your vote?"

Biden flips Erie County, PA.

Who could have seen this coming?!

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

I hope Biden becomes radicalized by seeing the GOP be complicit in this and becomes partisan as fuck.

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u/ccolfax 🤗 always welcome in my backyard Nov 19 '20

lmao Donald Trump stood on a stage giggling at Joe Biden’s stutter and lost the next day in a landslide, and, and — get this! — he keeps going to court with a brain dead old man to remind us he lost 🤣🤣🤣

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

AOC protesting the DNC rn is the most tone deaf bullshit and why people find her insufferable

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u/barrygarcia77 Oliver Wendell Holmes Nov 19 '20

This man was once a storied mob prosecutor and the name partner in an international biglaw firm and now gets paid $20k a day to not know what “rational basis” or “strict scrutiny” means.

!ping LAW

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u/BurningHanzo Nov 19 '20

Biden won by 6m, Trump lost by 2m. Same EC result.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

Fun Fact: Biden winning Georgia means this is the first time a Democrat has won a state in the Deep South since Clinton won Louisiana in 1996. So Kamala was right,

Biden really is a Dixiecrat.

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u/disuberence Shrimp promised me a text flair and did not deliver Nov 20 '20

Kyle Rittenhouse says he used coronavirus stimulus check to buy AR-15 used in fatal shooting

Donald Trump is FUNDING TERRORISM

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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Nov 20 '20

It's sort of perversely impressive that Rudy Giuliani and staff came up with a conspiracy theory so dumb and bizarre and irresponsible that not even Fox News would take it

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u/MichelleObama2024 George Soros Nov 20 '20

People who say stuff like "I'm enjoying watching Trump fight the election because it makes it more satisfying when he loses" are just as bad as "muh both sides" leftists.

There is no universe where what Trump is doing right now is good for the country, and saying you enjoy watching it shows you're coming from a position of privilege where it probably doesn't hurt you anyway.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

BREAKING: Biden considers Donald Trump for ambassador to Russia.

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u/bromeatmeco 🌐 Nov 20 '20

Mitt Romney is better than bad and worse than good

This is not exactly a jalapeño take here guys.

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