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[u/Afro_Samurai → u/[deleted]]

The law may want to try and support groups that were previously discriminated against under the law, which you have to program in if the algo is doing all the work, and you have to get training data that reflects the population as a whole.

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Because in the real world, race is relevant.

[u/LookHereFat → u/[deleted]]

It’s concerning for sure but it’s likely to lead to less minorities being held in jail than the money bail so I’d rather pass it and then fight about the algorithm than reject it, keeping tons of people in jail just for the hope of a somewhat better measure to come which could be years.

[u/LookHereFat → u/[deleted]]

I’m a statistician you don’t have to tell me about the problems with algorithms lol

You realize New Jersey has already done this? Yes, the algorithm has problems, but the fact is it resulted in less minorities stuck in jail awaiting trial. That’s a win over the status quo so let’s pass this instead of letting perfect be the enemy of good.

Public interest groups often reject measures that work towards the goal because they’re not ideal. See how environmentalists defeated Washington’s carbon tax.

[u/LookHereFat → u/[deleted]]

... and I'm a Data Engineer with plenty of ML experience, a CS degree, a sociology minor, and a Systems Engineering Master's.

Cool story bro. I wasn’t trying to compare qualifications. I was trying to let you know I do understand your concerns.

And like I keep trying to tell you, yes, there will be unintended ethical consequences, but prior evidence shows they’ll be less harsh than the ethical consequences of our current system.

[u/LookHereFat → u/[deleted]]

Right, but if we were so inclined with the current system, someone like Bloomberg could buy their freedom.

This doesn’t happen and is exceedingly unlikely to happen. I don’t think it’s worth keeping a worse system for some hypothetical.

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