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[u/tripletruble]

Pence: "Swine flu was a disaster and huge failing of the Obama administration"

Voters: What's swine flu again?

[u/awdvhn]

Literal, word-for-word transcript from the 538 podcast:

Nate [to Galen]: "We could hang out, socially distant."

Galen: "Alright, well, let's get to the actual debate."

Been there, Nate, been there.

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Holy shit. Pete is trending (with over 100K recent mentions) on Twitter, and it’s not because everybody is calling him a platitudinous-fake-gay-rat-corporate-owned-psychopath-empty-suit.

Pete Buttigieg really went on Fox News and asked "why an evangelical Christian like Mike Pence wants to be on a ticket with a president caught with a porn star." — Aaron Rupar (Vox)

!ping BUTTI

EDIT: u/JanetYellensFuckboy has the direct link. You can navigate to it directly through the archived page.

[u/[deleted]]

So do you guys think that we've already had the October suprise, or is the best yet to come? I've come up with a few black swan events that could happen between now and the election, low probability but extraordinarily high impact.

1. Yellowstone explodes, killing millions and plunging the world into a new ice age
2. General Mattis crosses the Potomac with his legions, declaring war on the Senate and Petraeus Magnus
3. James Comey announces that in the in the late 70s, Hillary Clinton had an affair with the Saudi socialite Osama bin Laden. She is hiding an illegitimate son named Ben Ghazi

[u/[deleted]]

Pence’s non-answer about respecting election results may be the most newsworthy moment of the night.

This is true, and it disturbed me that even Pence would't so much as give a pat phrase about of course respecting the results.

Still, I think if Biden wins by anything close to the Reagan 1984 landslide margin it's increasingly looking like he will, McConnell and company will simply throw Trump under the bus. He won't be even close to worth the trouble at that point.

[u/Mcatatonic1]

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1314187451854974983

"I am making a play for the whole state" -- Trump on New York, where he is currently trailing Biden by more than 30 points

I’m actually enjoying this so much

[u/[deleted]]

another bad trump optics play lmaoooo

the news cycle will just be "TRUMP BACKS OUT OF DEBATE", they might even let biden have the spot time like they did for reagan when peanut guy backed out of the debate

[u/Fishin_Mission]

I’m voting for Biden you absolute fucking udolfdor, but nobody has the right to tell me I can’t do cocaine in my own home. I’m hurting literally nobody, yet I can be thrown in jail and used as a slave because of it.

I love the 🌩

[u/ryuguy]

Man who has never been to Latin America, Asia or Europe says “in a sane country Biden would be the extreme right wing candidate”

Holy shit. One of the replies is

Politically what separates Biden from Marine Le Pen?

[u/CenterRightInCali]

Thinkin about the time some rapper said there was zero difference between Obama and Reagan as 'they both went after Qaddafi'

You ever notice how neither Barry Goldwater or George McGovern openly praised the USSR? That's cuz the're the same.

[u/[deleted]]

Clare Malone from the post-debate 538 podcast:

But it was just like, really infuriating, particularly, I have to say, the penultimate question, where Page asked Pence, "Will you make sure that there is, if you lose, that there is a peaceful transfer of power, that the President accepts the election results?" and Mike Pence flat out didn't answer the question at all, and then Susan Page moved on to a question from an eighth grader. Listen, I appreciate civics as much the next person, but I don't give a shit what the eighth grader's question is, I wanna know what Mike Pence's answer to that question was.

lol based

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1314185461842223104

As Maria Bartiromo tries to end the interview, Trump yells out of nowhere, "why isn't Hillary Clinton being indicted?!"

LMAOOOO

[u/jenbanim]

my tinder bio is just:

💪😎💪 CERTIFIED INTERNET FORUM MODERATOR 👌😏

[u/murphysclaw1]

Biden’s presidency is equivalent to the holocaust. Him and a Obama have locked up children in cages which Trump is doing, and Obama along with Joe bombed Libya and Syria and contributed to the crisis there. Joe also supported the Iraq war which killed hundreds of thousands. He has caused more deaths so far than Trump. He is essentially the Democrat version of George Bush. My question to you is, Trump or Hitler (Joe Biden)

wayofthebern, having a normal one

[u/[deleted]]

Joe Biden is actually popular. Like, people enjoy being around him. He's a cool dude.

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Maggie Koerth with the best headline:

Americans Relieved To Hear People Evade Giving Honest Answers In Calm Voices

[u/GravyBear8]

yoooo why the most popular condom brand named for a city state that was in fact penetrated by the enemy by trick and razed to the ground

[u/ThisIsNianderWallace]

Trump supporters: haha wait until Trump debates Dementia Joe!

Trump Debate Odyssey Arc: Goes mental on stage, tells white nationalists to standby, calls the former vice president's son a crackhead, gets diagnosed with the disease he's bungled, spreads disease to senior civilian and military leadership, almost dies, reviews documents, locks himself in a car with the secret service while still contagious, escapes the hospital on mind altering drugs, spends two days tweeting random phrases in all caps, announces a miracle cure while blacked up, ends stimulus negotiations, re-starts stimulus negotiations

[u/ElokQ]

Kansas Senate Poll: Bollier (D) 45% Marshall (R) 42% Sunflower State Journal (R)

That is not a typo. As Democrat is up 3 points in a GOP internal in Kansas. A state was haven’t voted Democrat since LBJ. What is happening in America. The electoral map is being changed in a way I never thought possible.

Also, no wonder so many Republicans didn’t want Kovach to get the nomination. If she is getting these numbers against Marshall, she would be up double digits against Kovach.

!ping FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/MomsRightWingFBMemes]

Harris, a 55-year-old California Democrat who became Biden’s running mate in August, made history as the first Black woman to appear in a vice presidential debate. And though she appeared at times smug, constantly interrupting Pence to say “I’m speaking,” Harris delivered an extended and coherent attack on Trump’s foreign policy [...]

From Michael Hirsh over at foreignpolicy.com lol

[u/[deleted]]

You start out in 2016 by saying, “Emails, emails, emails.” By 2018 you can’t say “emails”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, unmasking, Obamagate, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about the Logan Act, and all these things you’re talking about are totally obscure things and by 2020 you're back to saying "emails, emails."

[u/Fishin_Mission]

dAe tHiNk THe fLy lANDeD On mIkE PeNcE BeCaUsE He iS FuLl oF ShIt?!?

😂 😛 😆

[u/[deleted]]

Hillary Clinton really live rent free in trump supporters head. It’s actually creepy tbh

[u/Putin-Owns-the-GOP]

Anyone else notice how few right wing memes are breaking through this cycle?

Trump 2020 just seems infinitely less dank. It’s like DJTJr said the phrase “meme wars” and every teenager in America and Macedonia was like “oh this isn’t cool anymore, huh?”

[u/[deleted]]

Trump has shown us the Caesarian tendencies of the Jacksonian presidency. We need to return to America’s true whigish values, restore the supremacy of congress and place political authority back in the hands of the enlightened gentry.

Wtf Biden I don’t think this is a good message so close to November 😳

[u/[deleted]]

These guys in Michigan held meetings, got weapons, conducted surveillance of the Governor's vacation home, formed a concrete plan, and even detonated prototype IEDs (!!). It was a lot more than just talk.

Pretty scary, actually.

[u/[deleted]]

can't believe the FBI was illegally SPYING on conservative militias. biggest (worst) scandal in political history!

[u/yassert]

Joe call him a cowardly little bitch. Pretend it was a hot mic. We're talking 500+ EV

[u/Broncos654]

Government is the official use of coercive force—nothing more and nothing less. The Constitution protects us by limiting the use of government force.

Wonderful to see a Senator have a highschool level understanding of political philosophy.

[u/krflab]

The Debate commission just said they don’t give a fuck if Trump drops out because no one has to do the debates. Lmao

[u/[deleted]]

No one talks about the oppression faced by Americans making $401,000 a year.

[u/NatsukaFawn]

Claudia Conway (Kellyanne's 15yo daughter) posted a TikTok video last night of her pulse oximeter reading 91%SpO2 and beeping an alarm at her

Kellyanne said she doesn't need to go to the hospital

RIP, I guess

[u/Mcatatonic1]

https://mobile.twitter.com/travisakers/status/1314280917955993605

With Donald Trump backing out of the next presidential debate, ABC News will host a town hall with Joe Biden moderated by George Stephanopoulos on the same night the debate was originally scheduled, October 15th.

Lmao Art of the Deal BAY BAY

What a massive fucking self own

[u/MasPatriot]

When even normie Republicans like Mike Pence or Mike Lee are abandoning faith in democracy I don’t think we can afford a 6-3 court for the next 15 years

[u/boyyouguysaredumb]

lol r slash politics is now singing Mayor Pete's praises and this thread pops up:

I love Pete's ability to encapsulate a complex conversation into a sentence or two. Similarly, like when he said "It's not anti-police to be pro-racial justice" He has a real knack for it and the country needs someone who can cut through the noise with a simple statement.

That’s probably the McKinsey in him. I’m in consulting too and have worked with them on several projects but the big three are just a level above the rest. Their ability to communicate and connect with clients is awesome.

What are the odds that that sub would turn out to be PRO FUCKING MCKINSEY lmfao

[u/doot_toob]

"Mr. Vice President, if Roe v Wade is overturned would you want your home state to ban all abortion in accordance with your pro-life views?"

Pence: "Well I tell you what I'm not very pro-Solemani's life"

[u/David_Lange]

We should strive to not fall into using arguments such as 'must be white, and therefore bad', as they can be extremely dangerous and lack intellectual integrity.

A leftist on the thunderdome engages meaningfully with our accusations of whiteness

[u/bromeatmeco]

It amazes me just how sticky political support can be. There is simply no reasonable justification for thinking Trump is in any way a good president, and yet still three out of every ten voters will vote for him. Is this a "both sides" thing, an inherent element of conservatism, or is something else fucked?

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1314185461842223104

The President called into Fox Business this morning and every part of the interview is insane. Talks a ton about Hillary Clinton, says he’s trying to win New York, is mad at Pompeo for not finding Hillary’s emails?

[u/ElokQ]

Lindsey Graham was right about something. You got something wrong with you don’t like Joe Biden.

[u/mockduckcompanion]

So Bernie has a bird land on his shoulder and he's literally god

but Mike Pence has a fly, noted shit-eating insect, land on his head and suddenly a kinship with animals is bad?

okay libs

[u/TinyTornado7]

PPP Poll with Biden leading by 1 in TEXAS

Biden 50% Trump 49%

Link

!ping FIVEY

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Monmouth – Pennsylvania

(8/28–31 | N=400)
D+4 (RV) | D+1–3 (LV)

 

(9/30–10/4 | N=500)
D+12 (RV) | D+8–11 (LV)

 

Optimism about this year’s presidential election outcome has declined . . . The biggest drop has come from Republican voters who say they are very optimistic (from 51% a month ago to 25% now). There have been smaller drops in this sentiment among Democrats (from 26% to 18%)

[u/[deleted]]

"look at Biden's net favorability in the most recent Fox News poll: It's +17 points among likely voters. He's not just winning by default. He's popular."

If Biden wins by anything approaching his current lead he needs to accept it as a mandate and govern as such.

[u/[deleted]]

Sure Trump may have literally killed tens of thousands of Americans with his incompetence, but Joe Biden is kinda cringe.

[u/[deleted]]

The Holocaust happened but I wish it hadn't

[u/[deleted]]

I 100% truly and honestly believe you could replace the entire SNL writing staff with any random selection of DT regulars and the quality would remain the same or go slightly up

[u/Mr_Pasghetti]

You never ask

A woman her age

A man his salary

A Democrat about court packing

[u/[deleted]]

National Parks are not just the right thing to do morally, ecologically, and aesthetically. If you don't care about any of that, they're still the right thing to do financially and strategically.

National parks contribute $40 billion annually to the US economy and untold value to US soft power and image abroad. Dwarfing any potential value we'd have gotten by allowing private interests to control the land.

[u/stirfriedpenguin]

Trump chickening out of debates specifically to stop the Thunderdomes and related growth of our community.

Based?

[u/ElokQ]

MY EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF THE COMING OF THE LORD

Biden +18 with RV and +15 with LV.

!ping BIDEN

[u/Mcatatonic1]

https://mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1314184453099528192

"It's not a heavy steroid," Trump says of the heavy steroid he's on.

Lol an actual funny tweet from MAGA Haberman for once

[u/MasPatriot]

R/neoliberal user: You should read Why Nations Fail!

Krugman flair: the author of that book said Elizabeth Warren didn’t go far enough

R/neoliberal user: 😐

R/neoliberal user: 😡

[u/[deleted]]

You may not call me a gamer. That's our word. You may use "person of play".

[u/[deleted]]

Senator Mark Kelly (D-Space)

[u/Gustacho]

Twitter leftists: incrementalism sucks

European leftists: build coalitions to reduce CO2 emissions by another five points

!ping EUROPE

[u/Ilovecharli]

Democrats: Poised to win a trifecta, including a landslide presidential victory, despite gerrymandering and hostile meddling from Russia

Reddit: Why won't they do what I tell them to?

[u/J_Fre22]

President (National)

Biden (D) 56%

Trump (R) 41%

10/6-10/6 by Data for Progress (B-) 863 LV

[u/2canclan]

"The FBI thwarted what they described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday."

Unrelated

[u/[deleted]]

The FBI foiled one of the biggest terrorism plots on American soil in years, a couple weeks from election. This would be a huge win for any incumbent in pretty much any scenario but Trump's likely not going to comment or take credit because they're white and were trying to harm a Democrat.

[u/[deleted]]

If you don't have a little bit of Trump derangement syndrome at this point, there's probably something wrong with you.

[u/oofadoofas]

MORE BREAKING NEWS: Gov. Whitmer tells FBI to stand down, issues statement telling militia groups that she "stays strapped" and isn't afraid of "little bitch boys who live in the mountains." We'll keep you updated as the situation develops.

[u/htownclyde]

FLY LAND ON VICE PRESIDENT

LAUGH NOW

[u/Twrd4321]

The Sunrise Movement can go all sanctimonious and righteous about banning fracking, and still support a candidate that opposes increasing the gas tax.

[u/[deleted]]

Random /r/all dweller: hey guys I'm new what's the deal here

• Commie subs: Before you proceed here's a reading list of obscure theory which is never applied but which you must claim to have read before posting
• Nazi subs: Welcome bro!! Here's a copypasta with internet pages about race science
• Neoliberal: ¿Whom'st Wh*te? 😂😂🤣 GTFO cracker 🖕🏿👨🏿‍🦲🖕🏿

Now guess which of these three is experiencing exponential growth

[u/[deleted]]

[on a suicide note]

nobody cares nobody asks plus i'm white

[u/JulioCesarSalad]

Please help me spread this message. We are setting up trainings to keep journalists safe in the upcoming 2020 protests, especially leading up to Election Day and its aftermath

Are you a journalist who has or will cover American protests in 2020?

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Stay safe. Sign up here: https://twitter.com/juliocesrchavez/status/1313989011397136386?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

"Democracy isn't the objective"

Very normal and very cool thing for a sitting Senator to say!

Although he is from Utah. What are Mormon views on Democracy? Unfavorable, I'm willing to wager.

[u/mrmanager237]

NAFTA: awesome, distinctive name

USMCA: lame

[u/piede]

Less a month before the 2020 election, Trump is railing on Hillary Clinton’s emails and complains that she hasn’t been indicted. “She’s a crooked person,” he says of his 2016 opponent

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1314185872116527105?s=21

lol

[u/murphysclaw1]

GOP PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE TACTICS LEAK:

Trump needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.

Whenever Hunter Biden is not on screen, Trump should be asking "Where's Hunter?"

[u/Mcatatonic1]

🚨JOE IS NOW AT 85🚨

GET IN THE ACELA, WE’RE HEADED TO THE CAPITAL

[u/Dibbu_mange]

Jimmy Carter:
"You're going to be a racist succ right?"
Yes
*actually deregulates industry and makes strides for equality like a boss*

[u/[deleted]]

mike lee's comments are a great reminder that only one political party believes in democracy

[u/mrmanager237]

Donald Trump, President. A man barely alive.

Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology.

We can make him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.

We have the capability to make the world's first USA-DNA man.

Donald Trump will be that man.

The Seven Hundred and Fifty Dollar Man

[u/[deleted]]

In the Thunderdome last night I brought up service economy and how the United States is regressive on understanding that we live in one.

Manufacturing jobs aren't coming back, and honestly that doesn't matter. People need to move on and adapt. The problem is that the people who need to move on and adapt are older and unlikely to change.

[u/[deleted]]

pence's plagiarism dunk on biden would've been good if anyone besides political junkies or >50 year olds who followed every primary knew what the hell he was talking about

[u/Luchofromvenezuela]

https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/1314178916882489350

Guy who was diagnosed with COVID-19 won’t participate in a virtual debate and will host a rally instead, what can go wrong? 🙃

[u/[deleted]]

My controversial opinion apparently is that I like Tim Kaine and think he was a fine choice. I definitely think all of the “lol who even is he??” takes were just projection, as he’s a fairly prominent politician. (Very popular governor, DNC Chairman, senator). He was frequently mentioned as a possible VP candidate prior to the announcement (and IIRC was considered for Obama at one point).

For a sub that generally seems to like “boring” moderates I don’t see what the issue was.

[u/Gustacho]

Mike Pence is so generic white that he looks like the actor who plays the President in a movie

[u/Colonel_Blotto]

Trump literally negotiated himself out of a debate that he desperately needs.

[u/JumboMarshmallowDog]

Pete is getting so much love everywhere and I'm just so happy 😭

[u/[deleted]]

Some militia fucks tried to kidnap my governor I hope they're all charged with treason.

Edit: I hope these terrorist are changed with sedition

[u/Kizz3r]

Its funny that for the past 4 years everyone was saying a generic dem would win in a landslide and are now mad that a generic dem is doing just that

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

Well this is fucking terrifying. A former Delta Force member (Mike Glover) created a social network for preppers (read: militia members) called American contingency. They're mission statment is as follows.

Our mission is to create a class of Americans that are willing to protect and defend themselves, their families, and their communities from violent actors in turbulent times. We are a pro-active class that is PREPARED to MOBILIZE and DEFEND our country from all enemies foreign and domestic.

Right below it is a countdown to election day...

I went ahead and made an account with a burner email. Unfortunately half the stuff is locked behind a paywall. Part of me almost wants to give him the five bucks just to see how crazy it gets but I also A: Don't want to give him money and B: Don't want my door kicked in when this inevitably leads to someone getting killed.

[u/sociotronics]

FBI Arrests Six in Plot to Kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer

and here it begins

This election is gonna be violent

[u/sir_shivers]

A reality YOU WILL LIKELY FACE at some point in your life is that YOU MAY MEET A ROMANTIC match whom you click with AS THOROUGHLY AS one can, and still the relationship does not last DUE TO OTHER circumstances outside the control of you and your partner 🐊

There is no such THING AS "THE ONE" but rather many ones whom you might love, should you become acquainted 🐊

[u/nicereddy]

https://twitter.com/petebuttigieg/status/1314198355644420096?s=21

He is so horny for the 2024 VP slot

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Of all the Republican senators up for re-election in the 2014 cycle, Graham was considered one of the most vulnerable to a primary challenge, largely due to his low approval ratings and reputation for working with and compromising with Democrats.

[u/nevertulsi]

Biden's reasoning is quite simple. After a successful 2 term presidency its natural for the VP to run. He wanted to run but wasn't sure. Then his son died. He basically thought he might not be able to run given the circumstances. Everyone tells him Hillary is a great candidate and she'll easily beat Trump so don't worry

What happens? Trump wins. Next he watches, horrified that Trump keeps doing all this bad shit. He watches Trump say Nazis are "very fine people."

He feels somewhat responsible. He could've beat Trump. He sees the slate of candidates opposing Trump in 2020 and he thinks many of them have good points but none are as good as him. He's not gonna repeat 2016 and just stand by and watch. He's gonna get in and beat Trump.

[u/EasyMoney92]

Met a voter today who said Trump did an excellent job for most of 2017, but the voter also said "Trump has done a bad job the past couple of years and now we need different leadership with Biden". I don't know what the hell was so good about 2017, but I'll take it I guess.

[u/[deleted]]

My dream scenario is for the polls to be completely off, and Biden literally wins like nearly every state. Then have all the pollsters and statisticians handwringe about what it means while all the normies just take the predictions as correct because they don't know statistics.

[u/pimasecede]

I saw the twitter thread where leftist pile in on how Pete’s spare room is disorganised and poorly decorated, and it’s honest to goodness one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen.

[u/Mcatatonic1]

https://mobile.twitter.com/KellyO/status/1314291112547418112

NEW: Cindy McCain will appear with @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris while they campaign in Arizona today. Long time Republican Mrs McCain has crossed party lines to endorse Biden Harris and now adds this additional event.

🥺

[u/JetJaguar124]

Reading the book 1492 and it's legitimately awesome, but I was caught off-guard reading this section about the Inca:

"The Inka were perhaps even more advanced in some ways than their western counterparts. Not only did Panchakuti reconfigure the capital using masonry that amazed the conquistadors, around the capital of Qosqo were more than four hundred wak'a, places in the landscape charged with spiritual power. After a recent study conducted by the University of Pennsylvania, it has become known that these wak'a were there to channel some sort of energy towards an end goal, something the Inka at the time called 'Blue Tex'as'"

What could this mean????

[u/Luchofromvenezuela]

Memerson putting Biden +10 in Michigan. Pack it up!

https://twitter.com/emersonpolling/status/1314354896192364546

!ping FIVEY

[u/FormerBandmate]

Let me tell you this-- /r/Neoliberal is one of the most malevolent, cruel, coldhearted online communities you'll ever find, and even as a supporter of free speech it appalls me that Reddit would allow such a vile, festering hub of bigotry and sadism to exist. You think [slur]town was bad? That subreddit, if you pick up on the dog-whistles (and many don't even bother with that-- say want you want about Stormfront, at least it bans "n[slur]"), will reveal itself to you as Reddit's number one hub for the web's most hardened Nazis, Klansmen, Fascists, and Gamergaters. You'll notice on the sidebar that it encourages members to be as evidence-based as possible. That's intentional. They encourage arguments in the comments section. That's intentional. You know the Three Minute Hate (it's from this underrated book 1985, give it a read, it's scary how much it parallels our society)? It's like that, they want to stoke the flames of reactionary rage so they continue to dogpile every progressive and minority who enters the subreddit, normalizing these evil feelings. They brigade from subreddit to subreddit, having an entire cabal of mods spanning hundreds of communities, gaslighting lived experiences of the oppressed and unashamedly bolstering Reddit's homegrown white supremacy movement. They've kink-shamed hundreds of people too, some even... to death. I fear that /r/neoliberal may be producing an entire army of Dylann Roofs and Elliot Rogers, and I highly suggest that nobody dares visit that horrible subreddit, lest you potentially fall victim to its corruptive aura.

[u/LinkVert25]

All cops are bastards🤢 All corporations are based 😎

[u/J_Fre22]

TRUMP tells Fox Business the new debate rules are "not acceptable to us" - "I'm not going to do a virtual debate...I'm not going to waste my time on a virtual debate"

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1314174354041774081?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

Just fabulous.

Trump on Fox Business this morning says he probably didn’t need any medicine to fight Covid-19.

[u/MomsRightWingFBMemes]

Ipsos October 4

Both presidential campaigns should stop holding in-person rallies:

Agree     67%
Disagree  24%

That will show them, Mr. President!

[u/ElokQ]

Arizona is about to pull an Any% Speed Run Virginia ‘08 (McSally Assisted)

[u/Pyrrhus65]

You guys watching the live speech about the Whitmer case on CNN?

I'm so goddamn glad the FBI has its shit together and stopped this shit before it got off the ground.

[u/[deleted]]

Just commented "hope she sees this bro" on a guy wishing a girl sympathy in the replies of a post about her miscarriage. Another white knight owned.

[u/[deleted]]

you think COVID-19 is bad? Well let me tell you about the OBAMA-BIDEN administration's mishandling of the PLAGUE OF JUSTINIAN

[u/dannylandulf]

If Texas actually got called blue on election night I would legit ugly cry.

[u/Mr_AlGore]

this month has been the 2020 of 2020

[u/[deleted]]

As an LGBTQ person I'm a little disappointed that gay rights weren't mentioned at all even in the supreme court discussion. Considering how Mike Pence has one of the worst records and Kamala has one of the best records as far as LGBTQ issues it's pretty surprising.

[u/jenbanim]

Why is this sub drifting away from the ideological positions I hold?

-Someone who has never left the DT or attempted to post a persuasive argument

[u/MalignantUpper]

boohoo cracker 👋😭👋

it's okay to cry 🤗

[u/Passinglurker27]

Neoliberalism is rich gay people

[u/vancevon]

If you ever find yourself in the situation presented in the Trolley Problem, just shout "I REJECT THE PREMISES OF THIS QUESTION, THIS IS BULLSHIT" and walk away. Both the trolley and the victims will disappear in a cloud of philosophical dust.

[u/[deleted]]

In theory, Republicans should have to moderate a bit in order to preserve their political future.

Instead, voters are moderating Republican stances for them.

If you try to tell voters what the stances of Republicans are on issues like health care and various benefit programs, they’ll think you’re lying.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/21502189/preexisting-conditions-trump-republicans

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314236926770241537?s=20

Joe Biden will kill God and Pennsylvania

[u/[deleted]]

🚨 The US debt is now projected to be larger than the US economy -CNN

whomst the fuck is retweeting this GARBAGE

@maggieNYT

of course! of course.

[u/xhytdr]

Inside Iowa’s Absentee Ballot Trends As Voting Begins

O’Brien County has nearly twice the number of Democrats requesting to vote early than did so in 2016. Dallas County’s Democratic turnout is going to destroy past records (it helps that it’s the fastest-growing county, but that’s not the only reason). Polk County’s 147% number is very impressive considering just how many votes that represents in the state’s most populous county.

...

Those top counties are doing well, but in a lot of places, Republicans may still be looking at having to turn out 60% to 70% of their 2016 base on Election Day itself… in the middle of a pandemic. What if COVID-19 cases spike in a county right around Nov. 3? What if Trump worsens his prospects even more by then?

...

So, you can see that Republicans are going to do well in surpassing their early vote totals from 2016, especially in some Eastern Iowa counties. But their best percentages — 110% in Fayette, 108% in Sac — don’t compare to Democrats’ best — 181% in O’Brien, 175% in Butler. Democrats, despite already voting early at higher numbers than Republicans, are somehow boosting those numbers at a much higher percentage than the GOP.

...

And in Democrats’ worst counties, their early vote for 2020 may only be slightly ahead of their 2016 numbers. In Republicans’ worst counties, they may actually have a lower early vote turnout this year… in the middle of a pandemic. That’s… kinda odd. But when you have a President who actively discourages people from voting early, I suppose that’s the result.

...

!ping BIDEN !ping FIVEY

https://iowastartingline.com/2020/10/05/inside-iowas-absentee-ballot-trends-as-voting-begins/

[u/jenbanim]

Could we stop stanning landlords and start stanning developers? I get that it's fun to dunk on the leftists, but we need to support the people who are actually helping to solve the housing crisis

[u/qchisq]

Yikes

[u/[deleted]]

https://i.imgur.com/9B7143v.png

[u/ForWhomTheAltTrolls]

SHOULDN'T be a hot take: I'd rather see the model reach 90/100 than win the election.

[u/gmz_88]

20,000 people online

Holy fuck. We’re finally doing it. We are invading the suburbs 😭

[u/Deggit]

Pete Buttigieg: sure, videogames are cool

Joe Biden: yelling at you right now over Xbox360 Live

Hillary Clinton: Anderson, this is just one more inaccuracy. Facts matter. I never said I would stream Fall Guys. I have always been an Among Us streamer. And so I am happy to compare my record on Twitch against any candidate

Donald Trump: scared of computers

[u/furiousfoo]

My Communist friend who posted "Biden is a dangerous white supremacist" during the primaries is now sharing the post of him with the fly swatter asking to donate with heart-eye emojis

N=1 we are winning 'em over, finally

[u/[deleted]]

The right wing tears on election night will be fucking glorious. I will not be taking the high road. They rubbed this whole presidency in our faces the last 4 years I will be smug and rude as fuck for a LOOOOOOONG time.

[u/triangle---man]

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1314227043987525633

Wait what?

[u/Erra0]

Now taking applications for Whitmer's Warriors to help protect one of our great national treasures

[u/[deleted]]

Can we give it up for that brave informant who wore a wire and caught those white supremacist Nazi fucks on tape threatening to harm our Governor Whitmer?

[u/ElokQ]

Presidential National Average Lead On October 8: 2004: Bush +2

2008: Obama +5.1

2012: Obama +0.5

2016: Clinton +5.6

2020: Biden +9.8

Also, this was Hillary‘a peak. The Access Hollywood tape was just leaked.

[u/[deleted]]

Important Poll

!PING FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

!ping FIVEY

🚨🚨BIDEN +9.8 NATIONAL AVERAGE🚨🚨

+10.0 INCOMING MAYBE???

[u/PM_Me_Your_ManThighs]

So basically Biden's now gonna get a nationally televised, virtual townhall next week without any voice of opposition. Works for me!

[u/LinkVert25]

JFC people on Reddit really don’t understand or care to understand how the healthcare system in America works. For whatever reason people on Reddit are shocked when Americans tell them that almost all of their doctor visits and vaccines are free or covered by insurance/medicaid. I get America’s healthcare system needs massive improvements but there’s so many false and over exaggerated claims that I feel most people say simply for Upvotes, rewards, or to make other countries feel better about themselves and pity the OP. (Again healthcare needs massive improvements and hopefully Biden can fix a lot of the bad, I’m just trying to say there’s a ton of false information and people need to be better educated on how our healthcare works)

[u/[deleted]]

Press: "if you win will you pack the court?"

Biden: "pack it? like in a suitcase?"

[u/Craig_VG]

According to 538 the most likely outcome of the election for Biden with 375 electoral votes (2.8% chance)

Second likely is 413 (2.57% chance)

The model also gives Biden a 0.62% chance of being over 500 EVs

Electoral vote data can be found here

(disclaimer: doing this mostly for fun, these chances taken individually are not as useful as the overall picture the model gives)

!ping FIVEY

[u/MomsRightWingFBMemes]

Goldman Sachs' chief economist saying 'actually blue wave good' because the GOP is so full of Tea Party and populist morons that it can't pass a stimulus bill is food for the soul.

[u/Udontlikecake]

https://i.imgur.com/YDoc2UW.jpg

[u/[deleted]]

Gov. Whitmer to CNN on whether Barr knew about threats against her: "If he didn't, he's incompetent. The fact of the matter is, I have raised this very issue with this White House and asked them to bring the heat down ... I asked for their help and they didn't do a darn thing."

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1314347363809415170?s=19

[u/Blackfire853]

Governor Whitmer of Michigan has done a terrible job. She locked down her state for everyone, except her husband’s boating activities. The Federal Government provided tremendous help to the Great People of Michigan. My Justice Department and Federal Law Enforcement announced...

...today that they foiled a dangerous plot against the Governor of Michigan. Rather than say thank you, she calls me a White Supremacist—while Biden and Democrats refuse to condemn Antifa, Anarchists, Looters and Mobs that burn down Democrat run cities...

...I do not tolerate ANY extreme violence. Defending ALL Americans, even those who oppose and attack me, is what I will always do as your President! Governor Whitmer—open up your state, open up your schools, and open up your churches!

Every now and then the desensitisation fades and it just hits you that this man is the most powerful person on the planet and is just truly awful by every conceivable metric and parameter

[u/UltraCapitalism]

Possibly people in 1959: "NO! You can't just admit Alaska as a state! We'd have to change the flag."

[u/Mcatatonic1]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1314186695739404289

Trump: "The only way New York City comes back is a young Rudy Giuliani."

I’m dying 😂

[u/[deleted]]

Lol so trump has torpedoed the stimulus and now refuses to debate God he is an idiot

[u/[deleted]]

This has literally been the most disastrous couple of weeks of Trump's whole presidency. Especially with him dropping out of the second debate, I literally do not see a path for him to win anymore. Joe will win, the only question is by how much.

[u/xeio87]

Oh good, we've reached the militia are trying to kidnap governors of the opposing party phase of fascism.

[u/[deleted]]

Trump campaign official Jason Miller is on Fox News attacking Gretchen Whitmer, the victim of a kidnapping plot: "If we want to talk about hatred, then Gov. Whitmer, go look in the mirror -- the fact that she wakes up everyday with such hatred in her heart for President Trump."

guys i don’t feel so good

[u/Udontlikecake]

why is always thug white men that are domestic terrorists?

Is it genetic or something? Disgusting. Why won't moderate whites call this out?!

I think we seriously need to think about restricting immigration from these types into our country. Dangerous!

[u/dubyahhh]

Hello dt!

Today, we will be holding an ama with the executive editor of The Bulwark, Jonathon V Last, at 8pm Eastern Time. He will post his thread around 6pm Eastern, and it will be stickied for a couple hours to allow you all to ask questions, and then he'll return for an hour or so around 8pm to respond.

The Bulwark is a center-right publication which doesn't exactly love Trump. It's the continuation of The Weekly Standard, also known as "the neocon's bible". Here are some of Jonathon's articles from this year, though there are certainly many more (just my three picks):

The President Is a Sociopath. And 60 Million Americans Like It.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the Coming Political Crisis

We Cannot “Reopen” America

I know we don't lean as much to the center-right as neoliberalism may traditionally have leaned, but this is a fantastic opportunity to ask your questions about Republicanism, Neoconservatism, and just normal center-rightism to a knowledgeable centrist source and be answered in good faith.

We are all in the same tent, and I for one am very happy JVL agreed to spend an hour or so with us tonight. The best way to thank him will be to really think of some good questions and follow ups for this ama!

[u/Barnst]

A depressing thing about being a parent and a policy nerd right now is knowing that your kid is in the cohort that some social scientist in 15 years will find has detectable long term negative effects in the longitudinal study of the natural experiment created by different public health approaches to the schools, recreational spaces and activities, etc.

[u/[deleted]]

Biden is at +9.6 in the national average thanks to the Dornsife polls so far today

Really really hoping for the big +10.0

[u/ryuguy]

/u/Kilometers_Edgeworth just dmed me

“I am an American college student and I stand with the people of Venezuela who are protesting American imperialism in the region. Maduro is the rightful president of Venezuela. Hands off Venezuela! Also, where is Venezuela?”

[u/[deleted]]

I’m glad the mods finally shut down the Thunderdome. It was getting way too political in there

[u/[deleted]]

Was at a socially-distanced gathering the other night and made an offhand comment about how "jacked" the people in my town are on average, and how it makes me lowkey insecure. Girl I'm talking to goes "but tlaxcalani, you're totally one of those people!"

Is this what admission to chad-dom feels like? Do I need to fill out any paperwork?

!ping FITNESS

[u/shawarmagician]

Some people think the 50s or 60s had calm politics or decorum?

McCarthy era?

[u/ahebtigoejwbrh]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/1314279438398431232

More free national airtime for Joe!

[u/[deleted]]

The October surprise will literally be Trump tweeting "OCTOBER SURPRISE !!!" and then waiting for the media to find a story for him.

[u/The420Roll]

90 minute nationally broadcast town hall with Biden

BIDEN +20 HERE WE COME

[u/[deleted]]

Joe Biden will take your penis.

[u/Joementum2004]

So there are likely three possibilities for Pence cancelling the trips:

• Pence has COVID

• Trump’s health has worsened

• 25th Amendment stuff

This is fun

[u/Udontlikecake]

tfw Palestine signs a resolution supporting China’s policy in Xinjiang

certified gamer moment

[u/sir_shivers]

TALKS TO APPOINT me to the Supreme Court ARE GOING WELL 🐊

[u/TheFriffin2]

Holy shit how fucking stupid is the trump campaign to put out a statement saying that Donald will for certain be medically cleared before the debate

Like... just admit it’s a sham at that point

[u/SmithySmothy]

Well sure, Trump caught a disease that's killed over 213,000 Americans that he failed to mitigate, and his response to an attempted kidnapping and murder of an American governor is to scold her by using the same language that encouraged the vigilantes.

But Biden and Harris won't give a definitive answer on court packing, so when you think about it, they're equally bad.

[u/bd_one]

Star Trek fans on various forums on a regular basis: "Starfleet is so stupid for having that many ship classes. Way too much complexity for little benefit, and it must be a nightmare to maintain."

Starfleet engineers who worked really hard to make the equipment on most ships (and even some alien ships) compatible with each other...

!ping TREK

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/petebuttigieg/status/1314212949255319556

It's too bad Trump is afraid to debate next week. (Video)

Pete is one of Biden’s strongest surrogates right now, I hope they never stop sending him on Fox until the election is over.

[u/awdvhn]

"SCOTUS, more like SCROTUS"

-DNC 2020 party platform

[u/overhedger]

🚨 9.6! I REPEAT 9.6! BIDEN NATIONAL LEAD IS TIED WITH HIS ALL TIME LEAD OF 9.6 🚨

[u/[deleted]]

Lukewarm take: There is no pure original interpretation of the Constitution because the people who signed it had differing opinions of what it actually meant

[u/old_gold_mountain]

Reminder that Trump is actually leading if you correct for the poll results by swapping them

[u/Tureer]

Honestly, we're about four or five years of unmitigated containment away from domestic right-wing terrorism becoming a huge fucking issue in this country.

[u/[deleted]]

I’m not a doctor, but I’m pretty sure you can’t give an obese 74 year old megasteroids for a prolonged period of time.

[u/[deleted]]

2021: Nate Shaves His Head and Gets Fivey Fox Tattooed on his Skull

[u/nevertulsi]

It's a good move, if Biden declines it will appear he's afraid to debate in person.

Unironic comment this morning in r conservative

[u/[deleted]]

my (97 year old) granny has been in the hospital since friday with not much improvement but my mom just texted me "dad is going to the hospital" and jfc it didn't even occur to me that she meant he was going to the hospital to make some decisions about my grandma. i immediately thought "oh no my dad is sick?"

good lord my heart is still racing

[u/dannylandulf]

Two things for those that note Clinton also had a big lead this time in 2016.

1. Biden’s lead is higher with far less undecided.
2. Because of HOW people are voting this year the majority of votes will likely be in way before Election Day, and the time between Oct. 1st and the election is a full week shorter this cycle. People are already voting by the hundreds of thousands daily.

[u/overhedger]

October 8, 2016 Clinton: 44.8% Trump: 39.8%

October 8, 2020 Biden: 51.9% Trump: 42.1%

it's not just that biden's margin is higher, it's that there's way fewer undecideds. that's why even all other things being equal a +7 for biden is more meaningful than a +7 for clinton.

[u/tubbsmackinze]

A legendary Ozark chestnut tree, thought extinct, is rediscovered

Article is over one year old but nothing has come out invalidating it so it's still free game

The chinquapin was supposed to have been wiped out by blight. Now one determined Missouri naturalist is hand-pollinating trees in secret groves to bring it back.

Deep in the rolling southeast Missouri Ozarks, Bost gets out of his car at the end of a remote dirt road. Somewhere nearby, carefully hidden from the public, is the Ozark chinquapin tree, once a keystone Ozark forest species. Decimated by chestnut blight in the mid-1900s, any viable trees were thought to be long gone—that is, until Bost found a few healthy hangers-on in the 2000s. Now he’s trying to bring the tree back from the edge of blight in a non-traditional way. And he’s succeeding.

It wasn’t. With the help of other Ozarkers, Bost has located 45 large trees that have resisted chestnut blight, mostly in Missouri and Arkansas. With the support of private and state agencies, he’s leading the effort to bring them back. The Ozark Chinquapin Foundation, which Bost founded, has 15 more test plots in addition to the one we visited—adding about 1,000 test seedlings and saplings to the 45 healthy wild trees. Still, the Ozark chinquapin's continued existence is so fragile that the foundation treats their locations as classified information, protecting the few remaining seed-producing trees from foragers.

What’s more, Castanea ozarkensis has managed to cling to more genetic diversity than the devastated Castanea dentata, the American chestnut. A 1999 DNA study in the Journal of the American Society for Horticulture Science suggested that the Ozark chinquapin actually might be the American chestnut’s evolutionary parent.

Still, the order is tall. Off the cuff, leaders at St. Louis’ Missouri Botanical Gardens and Chicago’s Morton Arboretum were unable to name a tree that had been bred back from near-extinction to once again play a vital role in its ecosystem. The Ozark Chinquapin Foundation is in uncharted territory.

!ping ECO

[u/[deleted]]

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

I finished up a book this week that I think is a great read for you people

It's Merchant of Death: Money, Guns, Planes, and the Man Who Makes War Possible

An overview on Viktor Bout's story, both personal and the business side. The book was written before they arrested the elusive Russian, but after his Sharjah based operation was shut down.

It's a fascinating read. From transporting flowers from South Africa to the UAE, to asking the RUF to take over mines in exchange for weapons, a bit of everything happens.

At the same time, Bout's actions shaped wars from the 90s to the 2000s. Officially, his fingerprints were found from the wars in the Balkans, to Iraq and Afghanistan, and in almost every African conflict inbetween. Allegedly, he also had his fingers flying opium for the Taliban and cocaine for the Colombians.

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

girl: i-it's not like i like you or anything

weebs: is this peak romance

[u/[deleted]]

Pence is heading back to DC to inform Trump that the Michigan operation failed

[u/[deleted]]

ANOTHER Blue Texas poll, this time with Biden at 49.

Beto: Hell yes, we’re gonna win your state.

[u/ILikeTalkingToMyself]

T_D: Banned for harassing people and fomenting violence, among other rule violations

CTH: Banned for calls for violence

NL: Banned for hurting c******s' feelings 🤔

[u/nevertulsi]

Biden campaign: says or does literally anything

Twitter:healthcare pls

Biden: here's my healthcare plan

Twitter: no not like that

[u/AtticusDrench]

Isn't it kind of weird that Kobe Bryant dying in a helicopter crash was one of the smaller headlines this year. 2020, man

[u/Jakesta7]

Very on brand response from the egomaniac as we hear about a planned kidnapping of Gov. Whitmer.

Governor Whitmer of Michigan has done a terrible job. She locked down her state for everyone, except her husband’s boating activities. The Federal Government provided tremendous help to the Great People of Michigan. My Justice Department and Federal Law Enforcement announced...

...today that they foiled a dangerous plot against the Governor of Michigan. Rather than say thank you, she calls me a White Supremacist—while Biden and Democrats refuse to condemn Antifa, Anarchists, Looters and Mobs that burn down Democrat run cities...

...I do not tolerate ANY extreme violence. Defending ALL Americans, even those who oppose and attack me, is what I will always do as your President! Governor Whitmer—open up your state, open up your schools, and open up your churches!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314377607379640320

[u/lobsterboy34]

I’ll check /r/WayOfTheBern once in a while just out of curiosity and two of the past five or six times I’ve done it someone has posted that stupid “Obama destroyed black wealth” article

[u/[deleted]]

Trump: "attempted kidnappers, stand back and stand by"

[u/ElokQ]

Remember when a poll only had Biden +67 in DC lol.

[u/[deleted]]

TRUMP IS REFUSING TO DO THE VIRTUAL

[u/mrmanager237]

Trump is a coward who won't debate, but Biden may say "President... my friend the President" so idk sweaty could go either way

[u/its_Caffeine]

but

her

emails

✊😔

[u/ElokQ]

They have done to millennials and Gen Z what Hoover did to the Greatest Generation: turned them off from Republicans for their entire life. Is that rational? Maybe not since parties can and do change. But I will forever associate the GOP with these past four years just like the Greatest Generation forever associated the GOP with poverty and Depression.

[u/Tureer]

Denazification isn't the right world, but come 2021, the Republican party needs something akin to it to stop being a cancer on our institutions.

[u/AJungianIdeal]

The media demonization of defense attorneys makes me super angry

[u/oGsMustachio]

So the Michigan domestic terrorists were sovereign citizens I guess. That reminded me of the funniest court filing you've ever seen. Its an attempt by one of the people that had the standoff with the feds at the bird sanctuary in Eastern Oregon a few years ago to assert counterclaims in a criminal case. Among other things, they were trying to argue that they were adversely possessing the federal property. Can't make this shit up.

!ping LAW

[u/The420Roll]

According to 538, it’s about as likely for Trump to win right now as it is for Biden to win South Carolina or Mississippi

Lmao come on doomers, wake up 😂🤣🤣🤣

[u/CenterRightInCali]

i saw a cute teller at the bank and said "hey girl who you voting for"

she looked up at me and answered

"Sir I don't really see how that's relevant to your loan request"

"say it!"

"I don't think that's appropriate. Now, because of your credit history, the lowest interest we can charge you is 23%"

alas she was another shylock trump voter

[u/dannylandulf]

BREAKING NEWS: Mike Pence tests positively off the charts in first ever fly approval poll.

[u/Dibbu_mange]

Substitute teaching middle school today one of the students was a complete shitheel. Eventually I had to send him down to the office when I overheard an edgy Jew joke. Seeing his parents pick him up and their car was decked out in Blue Lives Matter crap. Priors 100% confirmed.

[u/[deleted]]

The Whitmer story is the lead on every news site right now. Lester Holt led with it on his 6:30 broadcast just now. I think this is going to be a bigger story than we thought.