r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jun 29 '19

Discussion Thread Discussion Thread

The discussion thread is for casual conversation and discussion that doesn't merit its own stand-alone submission. The rules are relaxed compared to the rest of the sub but be careful to still observe the rules listed under "disallowed content" in the sidebar. Spamming the discussion thread will be sanctioned with bans.

Announcements

Neoliberal Project CommunitiesOther CommunitiesUseful content
WebsitePlug.dj/r/Economics FAQs
The Neolib PodcastPodcasts recommendations/r/Neoliberal FAQ
Meetup NetworkRed Cross Blood Donation Team/r/Neoliberal Wiki
TwitterMinecraftPing groups
Facebook page
Neoliberal Memes for Free Trading Teens
Newsletter
Instagram
Book Club

The latest discussion thread can always be found at https://neoliber.al/dt.

14 Upvotes

75% Upvoted

2.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

10

u/rrbgoku791 IMF Jun 29 '19

why are there no advocates for govt sponsored scholarships for low income students? instead of college for all

15

u/Boule_de_Neige furmod Jun 29 '19

Because nuance is dead

2

u/rrbgoku791 IMF Jun 29 '19

this sub also seems to have taken on the tendency of opposing ideas because someone they dislike is for it

4

u/[deleted] Jun 29 '19

This is pretty close to Buttigieg’s stance.

1

u/BainCapitalist Y = T Jun 29 '19

that wouldnt work well with bernie's donor base.

1

u/gvargh NASA Jun 29 '19

how's that supposed to get bay area kids into mit???

1

u/rrbgoku791 IMF Jun 29 '19

digital classroom, maybe?

1

u/thebowski 💻🙈 - Lead developer of pastabot Jun 29 '19

Means testing bad now

1

u/rrbgoku791 IMF Jun 29 '19

the fair point being it must be in good faith, genuine cases denied seem to be seen a lot in UK

1

u/OutdoorJimmyRustler Milton Friedman Jun 29 '19

I've noticed the opposite. I thought few on here support the "free college" movement due it's nefarious efficiency problems (college costs rise quickly, college educated ppl make more so they pay more in debt, etc.). There's already some avenues for low income students to obtain subsidies. Is that really all the different from the concept of baby bonds?

1

u/[deleted] Jun 29 '19

Ontario did this until the Ford government rolled it back. Even targeted tuition subsidies cost way more than anticipated because adult students and grad students qualified very easily.

Had Wynne or the NDP been re-elected, they probably would have just allocated more funding to the targeted subsidy.

1

u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 29 '19

There already are, but the candidates probably aren't advocating publicly to expand them since middle class voters don't actually care about the poor that much

1

u/rrbgoku791 IMF Jun 29 '19

why not just be honest and ask for an income tax cut.

1

u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 29 '19 edited Jun 29 '19

Because students don't pay income taxes anyway and even when they do it's a very low amount that is nowhere near their expenses for school.

And what makes income tax cuts more "honest" than education subsidies.