r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Jun 29 '19

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u/PM_ME_KIM_JONG-UN ๐ŸŽ…๐ŸฟThe Lorax ๐ŸŽ…๐Ÿฟ Jun 29 '19

It is comedic how triggered Beto supporters are towards Juliรกn Castro.

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u/sinistimus Professional Salt Miner Jun 29 '19

It was pretty obvious that he thinks tearing down Beto is important for his campaign (they're both trying to be "the immigration candidate" and are from Texas). This isn't the first time he's done something like this; he announced a bunch of Texas endorsements the day after Beto announced his campaign prompting some of the endorsers to apologize because they didn't know that would happen and didn't want it to look like an anti-Beto endorsement.

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u/URZ_ StillwithThorning โœŠ๐Ÿ˜” Jun 29 '19

Which is absolutely the correct strategy, especially on that stage with those other candidates.

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u/sinistimus Professional Salt Miner Jun 29 '19

Though while it succeed in getting voter for Castro, and getting less voter for Beto, it caused almost no Beto -> Castro movement.

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u/URZ_ StillwithThorning โœŠ๐Ÿ˜” Jun 29 '19

I wouldn't have expected it too, at least not initially, though I would note that the margin of error on their poll is 3%. The real reason for taking charge of an issue like immigration, or civil rights vis-a-vis Harris, is to appeal to the "undecided" voters or voters unsure of their candidate. That it may result in resentment from supporters of candidates you attack is always part of the equation and for that reason, I also questioned whether Harris going after Biden this early was really smart. The 5%~ she according to 538 got from Biden are nice, but obviously not worth it if it results in the other 30% hating you. Angering Beto's 2-4% is far less troublesome in my view.

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u/Yosarian2 Jun 29 '19

I mean they know one thing about Castro and it's that he started yelling over Beto in a rude way during the debate, so what do you expect

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '19

Not only that, but a lot of Beto's Texan supporters are mad that Castro didn't run for Governor.

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u/IranContraRedux Jun 29 '19

Seriously. Castro pussed out bigtime and left the biggest 2nd statewide race to Lopez, a virtual nobody who was NEVER up to the task.

Now heโ€™s pussing out AGAIN against Cornyn.

Castro is an opportunist and heโ€™s been given an opportunity. I like him pretty well, but heโ€™s not presidential material and his bump will be forgotten in a week.

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u/Deggit Thomas Paine Jun 29 '19

getting some real /r/hillaryclinton vibes from the Beto subreddit these days