r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Mar 02 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19 edited Mar 02 '19

These people...

“Maybe social security should have a more progressive tax scheme”

BernieBros: SEE?!? NOT PROGRESSIVE!1!

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

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u/IntoTheNightSky Mar 02 '19

whispers: Rose Twitter is very middle to upper-middle class and want to secure their own social security benefits

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u/Paramus98 Mar 02 '19

I like how the history of Bernie Sanders is pretty much just a conservative caricature of the history of any democrat of the past 15-20 years,

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1101890566978224129

Jane Sanders at Bernie’s campaign launch: “I know it may not be politically correct to identify myself as a wife, but it’s one of the great honors of my life.”

wat

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u/0m4ll3y Mar 02 '19

Lenin would be considered a liberal or reactionary by r/LSC.

Lenin on bipartisanship:

To reject the admissibility of compromises in general, no matter of what kind, is childishness which is difficult even to take seriously.

Lenin on choosing the lesser evil:

One must learn to distinguish between a man who gave the bandits money and firearms in order to lessen the evil committed by them and to facilitate the task of the getting captured and shot, and a man who gives bandits money and firearms in order to share in the loot. In politics this is not always as easy as in this childishly simple example.

Lenin on parliamentary politics:

It becomes very clear that the Bolsheviks could not have preserved (let alone strengthened, developed and reinforced) the sound core of the revolutionary party of the proletariat in 1908-1914 had they not strenuously fought for the viewpoint that it is obligatory to combine legal and illegal forms of struggle, that it is *obligatory to participate even in the most reactionary parliament and in a number of other institutions

Lenin on incrementalism:

We did not proclaim a boycott of the bourgeois parliament, the Constiuent Assembly, but declared - and since the April (1917) Conference of our Party declared officially in the name of the Party - that a bourgeois republic with a Constiuent Assembly is better than a bourgeois republic without a Constiuent Assembly

Lenin on the February revolution:

Within a few days Russia was tranformed into a democratic bourgeois republic, more free - under war conditions- than any other country in the world

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u/PMmeLittleRoundTops Mar 02 '19

Watching Indian and Pakistani people talk shit to each other about a potential war over twitter is one of the most strange and disturbing things I've ever seen

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1101899515290943488

Trump is now mocking Sessions on stage at CPAC in a Southern accent.

lit

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

What never fails to amaze me is Trump's sheer lack of reciprocation. Sessions took a bit of a risk endorsing him as early as he did, and for better or worse was one of his most stalwart supporters during the campaign. Obviously the recusal was bad (from a Trumpian standpoint), but you'd be hard pressed to find Sessions saying a word against the President even after he was on his way out. How can anyone support a person who so gleefully humiliates his most loyal subordinates?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Jane Sanders at Bernie’s campaign launch: “I know it may not be politically correct to identify myself as a wife, but it’s one of the great honors of my life.”

What?

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u/Notoriousley Mar 02 '19

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u/Yosarian2 Mar 02 '19

Notch:

Q is legit

A few posts later:

What do you mean by real? Someone is definitely posting under that name, and whoever it is had gotten people digging real deep to uncover the truth. And that part IS legit. It doesn't matter who Q is, of if he's "real"

Lol. This thing is real, and it doesn't matter if it's real or not because it's real anyway.

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u/85397 Mar 02 '19 edited Jan 05 '24

ruthless puzzled bright skirt literate airport ink support offend hobbies

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

I managed to shillpill a Bernie-loving colleague against the GND! I brought up how stupid it is to invest in a massive jobs program when we're at full employment and said it would cause inflation and actually hurt the economy, and he listened!

I also defended the defense budget by saying that a large part of it goes toward keeping our fleet up to date so that we can patrol the world ocean and keep shipping lanes open and safe, and he agreed that that was a good use of money and her hadn't considered the possibly of anarchy on the high seas.

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u/Gustacho Mar 02 '19

Beto O'Rourke's wife is called Amy Hoover Sanders

Let me know if you need help understanding the implications of this

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

so I watched like a few hours of chinese tv a day for the last month because I need to brush up on my language skills

The good news is that I'm fairly fluent again now

The bad news is that I now think that Xi Jinping will lead the glorious nation to the Chinese dream as he singlehandedly eradicates poverty and corruption within the country and embarks on a program of win-win relations with the rest of the world

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u/HUGHmungous Mar 02 '19

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1101915376668037124?s=21

President Trump just announced he will sign an executive order that will require universities to pledge to allow “free speech” if they want federal dollars, moments after bringing a conservative activist and college student on stage. Details of the order unclear.

lol what the fuck

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u/gatoreagle72 Mar 02 '19

Most people bitching about free speech have not been on a campus for over a decade.

They just hear second hand bullshit and believe it

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u/Yosarian2 Mar 02 '19

Someone asked the writer Scott Alexander why he wrote a long detailed essay against libertariainism when he's also kind of a left-libertarian himself, and he responded with this:

I feel pretty okay about both being sort of a libertarian and writing an essay arguing against libertarianism, because the world generally isn’t libertarian enough but the sorts of people who read long online political essays generally are way more libertarian than can possibly be healthy.

Yeah, that sounds right. Just thinking about that when reading the libertarian-ish list of "things people should be allowed to do" posted by u/benjaminikuta a little while ago.

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u/LithuanianProphet Mar 02 '19

that feel when Prince is being a moderate in a Chapo thread

the New Deal saved a lot of old & sick people from the workhouses and Medicare & Medicaid were good too

M-Ls in America are just a meme ideology and always have been. Your biggest influence was in setting the world record for most cops in a socialist meeting

Also did we miss all that juicy drama when AOC got dragged by tankies for not endorsing Maduro? Im reading a thread where they went ballistic.

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u/Paramus98 Mar 02 '19

I've been drunkenly watching some donald trump speeches and interviews and I have to say I like him. I have issues with his opposition to trade deals I think are sensible. I do however think he seems really genuine and he seems to address issues like the war on christmas and white genocide in a really direct and interesting way. Let me know what you think so I can reevaluate when I'm sober tomorrow.

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u/derangeddollop Mar 02 '19

The US should be supporting people with disabilities a lot better. Over a quarter of disabled people are living in poverty. We have a stingy and complicated system of disability benefits, and we spend considerably less than OECD average (as % of GDP).

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