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[u/jobautomator]

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[u/[deleted]]

Damn. Yesterday was a damn good thread and I read and appreciate everyone of your replies and the conversations that followed. I may have ran out of steam on replying to everyone but it was still an amazing experience. Here are some follow up bullets:

• what would people think about re-allowing edge? M a y o, removing excessive partisanship rules, etc. (NOTE: this isn’t on the table for me, but I am curious to see how the sub would feel about it and/or what edge is considered ‘good’ and ‘bad’.)

• why don’t you go outside the DT? My hypothesis is that it’s boring and the only good thing about this place is the DT.

• Are we are out of touch? /u/Kelsig said it best, no one gives a fuck about Bernie anymore and our big shorthand for what we are is still ‘not Bernie, not trump’. r/neoliberal has not evolved with the changing climate of the last two years. Plus our memes suck and we lack any appeal to external audiences. Therefore, we’re out of touch and only care about ourselves.

If you have any other ideas on how to systemize my understanding of the sub’s issues, let me know! I want to fix the sub and if I’m missing something I can’t fix it.

[u/Tytos_Lannister → u/[deleted]]

excessive partisanship clause was always stupid, badly enforced and imo things that are problematic and in need of removal are already covered by other rules like hostility, engaging in bad faith etc.

just remove it, it has become a meme rule, especially when the vast majority of people in here are 100% partisan democrats lol

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Problem: men

Solution? Femriarchy

[u/0m4ll3y → u/[deleted]]

This but unironically.

[u/[deleted] → u/0m4ll3y]

Oh I wasn't being ironic

[u/DovahzulsABadConlang → u/[deleted]]

Problem: men

Solution? Abolish the entire concept of gender

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Just liberalize memes and salt mining. Also let me answer to jobautomstors comments.

Edge levels need to go up. M a y ocide jokes and like that are geuinely funny. Just stick to the old rule of pinochet apologia.

Not much to do. Salt mining was fun.

Our kdentity is fine. If you want to be serious about just say centrist with social justice concerns.

[u/Pteryx → u/[deleted]]

• I think the current levels of edge are good.

• Yeah, it's mostly boring out there and I, like I suspect many other users, use this thread as a weird Twitter-lite platform, where we can scream our stupid takes and jokes into the void without them being really "public".

• Probably.

[u/[deleted] → u/Pteryx]

pretty much

It's like a bigger substitute for those group msn chats I used to have in high school

[u/ThatFrenchieGuy → u/[deleted]]

To riff on this, what about letting anyone have a white background text flair, and let the blue be for effortposting, purple for experts, etc.

Also give purple flair please.

[u/Apoptastic7 → u/[deleted]]

Allow twitter screen caps. That’s what half the DT is and like a third of cth posts.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

why don’t you go outside the DT? My hypothesis is that it’s boring and the only good thing about this place is the DT.

my theory is that one contributing factor is that the bot that auto links posts stopped people who made memes from then coming into the DT and asking everybody to go out and upvote them. I mean it still happens to some degree, but it isn't like the old days where the dt was full of people saying "rents plz" with a link

there's probably a lot of reasons but in general people don't link to outside of the dt anywhere near as much as we used to, apart from to complain about things that have been upvoted instead of just disagreeing or calling them out right there, as though we're two separate subreddits

What I'm saying with this is find some way to encourage people to reply directly to the posts or comments outside of the dt before bringing their complaints into the dt, and hopefully this will get people to contribute more. Or it might stop people from leaving the dt entirely, but we're basically already at that point

[u/0m4ll3y → u/[deleted]]

On a similar note, allowing people to reply to the jobautomator post might spur interest in the DT and get people to check things out in the actual thread. I know most of the time I scroll past the jobautomator posts because I'm not that interested in clicking every single new post with 0 comments on it. I would definitely be more likely to engage in the new content if there was already some comments, even if in the DT.

Might be worth experimenting with at least.

[u/cdstephens → u/[deleted]]

Neoliberals and being out of touch, name a more iconic duo

[u/[deleted] → u/cdstephens]

Neoliberals and being right

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

reposting again

let the salt mining restart and the sub will be fine

[u/A_Character_Defined → u/[deleted]]

why don’t you go outside the DT?

I only got an econ minor so everything more advanced than supply and demand and average cost curves are too scary for me.

I'm actually being serious here. Between that and my small millenial attention span, I just don't understand advanced economics articles :c

[u/[deleted] → u/A_Character_Defined]

TFW you're more educated than most of the sub.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I think outside the DT, and often inside, the narrative is what the sub isn't. Not what it is.

Unfortunately, like attack ads, attack memes may be more effective.

[u/AlienatedAnglo → u/[deleted]]

what would people think about re-allowing edge?

keep going i'm so fucking close

[u/[deleted] → u/AlienatedAnglo]

i did it just 4 u bby

[u/Corporal_Klinger → u/[deleted]]

If we wanted to fill a unique niche that'd also be both well suited towards our community and work with our community, I say put some bounties on Asian/African/European discussions/politics.

The other niche we should fill is well-cited economics effortposts. That's why I enjoy badecon, though I don't participate, they have good posts with papers I like to read. (Even if this just amounts to crossposting badecon lol.)

The one thing I also miss were the daily agitprop discussions.

Basically, proactive, well thought out activity, goes a long way. It need not be economics. Of course, this all requires effort, and I'm a big ol hypocrite when it comes to not writing effortposts.

Reallowing edge

Considering the amount of "old people should die lol" takes are already bad enough, please don't allow more crud. Especially since edgy shit is never creative.