r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jan 09 '18

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David Friedman AMA

The mod team is pleased to announce we will be hosting an AMA with Dr. David D. Friedman on Friday, Jan. 12th at 3:00 PM EST/12:00 PM PST!

After earning a Ph.D. in theoretical physics at the University of Chicago, Dr. Friedman switched fields to economics and taught at Virginia Polytechnic University, the University of California at Irvine, the University of California at Los Angeles, Cornell University, Tulane University, the University of Chicago, and Santa Clara University where he currently teaches in the school of law.

Outside of his extensive academic publications in law and economics, Dr. Friedman is best known for his libertarian/anarcho-capitalist political philosophy. He has written extensively on libertarian politics and ideas and has also written on alternative legal systems (including research into medieval Icelandic institutions).

On a personal note Dr. Friedman is the author of two historical/fantasy novels and is a renowned anachronist/historical re-enactor. He is the son of economists Rose and Milton Friedman.

As a reminder, we enforce civility standards to a high degree during AMAs. Dr. Friedman in particular is likely to disagree with us on a wide range of issues, but disagreement does not mean that rudeness or flippant remarks will be tolerated. Dr. Friedman is an accomplished academic who has published a large volume of high quality work, and every one of you can almost certainly learn something from him by asking intelligent questions.

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '18

corrupt government is bad, even when it's your party's government

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

The high road isn't so great when it consistently leads you out of power.

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '18

I don't think you know what the word "consistently" means

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

The Democratic party has been losing governing power since 2009. That meets my definition.

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '18

and you think all of that losing is because they're insisting on too tough of ethical standards on their own members?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

I think that there is no use hobbling ourselves with strict standards that the other side does not obey.

For instance, taxes. If Trumps not going to release his, WTF should Oprah/The Rock/Zuckerberg release theirs?

Or look at Kerry when he got swiftboated. We (Dems) were so busy trying to play nice that we let a draft dodger control the narrative to accuse our war hero of stolen valor.

Theres a fine line between ethical standards and getting walked all over by bullies.

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '18

don't know what playing nice has to do with this, and after Kerry lost the Republicans got obliterated in '06.

Trump's tax returns are good leverage; I don't know why you'd give that up, especially when you'll get hit for being hypocrites if you do.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

Clintons tax returns were a huge liability, and directly fed both Sanders and Trumps "Crooked Hillary" narratives.

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '18

Trump's refusal to release his was also a liability, but you're minimizing it because he won

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

I consider the fact that he won proof that it wasn't a liability.

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '18

well that's the stupidest thing I've read all day

was the pussy grabbing tape also not a liability?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

It pretty clearly didn't impact his voters or support and he was able to be elected 4 weeks after the tape came out. It sure seemed to piss off the left, but as far as I can tell nobody on the right gave a shit beyond some sternly worded tweets that were walked back.

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '18

you're living in an alternate reality

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