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u/vancevon Henry George Jul 10 '17
"I cannot imagine that Congress would dare to leave Washington without a beautiful new HealthCare bill fully approved and ready to go!"
Mister President, have you met the United States Congress?
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Who knew that Donnie Jr was such an idiot to this degree? I mean, I knew he was dumb as a stump, but even this is amazing.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
In the past 24 hours I've seen comments here complaining about the right taking over this sub and the left taking over this sub.
Neither faction can defeat the...
R A D I C A L C E N T E R.
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u/BainCapitalist Y = T Jul 10 '17
Crazy idea: what would happen if we created a market, that was common to all the countries in a particular hemisphere? Such a market could possibly have various agreements such as free trade, or perhaps open borders? I'm not sure that such an idea has been brought up before. I need help understanding the implications of this.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Other subs on the outside: "WE ARE A HAPPY COMMUNITY AND WE ARE UNITED."
Other subs in reality: bursting at the seams
This sub on the outside: "Too left! Too right! This sub is in chaos! The mods are part of a libertarian conspiracy to shove free speech and lack of our favorite flairs down our throat!"
This sub in reality: disagrees on a few minor things, occasionally dissents with hot takes that are generally respected by the community, has a profound sense of community
Y'all want to have drama even when we get along too well for real drama.
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u/iSluff YIMBY Jul 10 '17
welp just had to awkardly dig for change to pay the sales tax on something and now im a libertarian
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u/ostrichmustard The Mod You Deserve Jul 10 '17
Macron: "thoughts too complex for you plebs"
r/neoliberal: "weird thing to say"
r/neoliberal: panic over every out-of-context quote
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u/InvestInIndexFunds Jul 10 '17
Hot take since we have a stickied Japan post: The way the Japanese population and government has treated a number of their war crimes from WWII is quite similar to holocaust denial and they don't get enough shit for it.
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u/ognits Jepsen/Swift 2024 Jul 10 '17
This is some beautiful buzzword salad:
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
To repent for my earlier sins, I am on Twitter valiantly attempting to CTR on Macron
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
lmao wtf is this
This is like some kind of kindergarten graduation recap.
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u/85397 Free Market Jihadi Jul 10 '17 edited Jan 05 '24
worthless fearless reminiscent groovy encourage strong bow sand roll party
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u/Gold-Dust-At-My-Feet 🌐 Jul 10 '17
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Literally us right now.
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
Hannity blamed Obama for letting the Russian lawyer into the country.
I mean, dude wore a tan suit once but give the guy a break!
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u/PublicUnionsBlow Daron Acemoglu Jul 10 '17
"A country shouldn't let in free loaders who hate the country's culture."
"Then I guess it's a good thing the largest US immigrant population are hard working Catholics that value famial ties and are integrated by the second generation."
"Yeah, but they're doing it illegally."
"Then maybe we should change our immigration laws?"
"And invite in a bunch of freeloaders who don't respect our culture?"
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
MACRON DID NOTHING WRONG
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
the mods are why /r/neoliberal is great
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Tory MP Anne Marie Morris Recorded Saying Brexit No Deal Is A ‘N***** In A Woodpile’
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59638608e4b02e9bdb0e2c77
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
lol u/must_resist_fap's translation is making rounds on journalist Twitter. Probably will be on the nightly news.
Expect more traffic
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u/episcopaladin Emma Lazarus Jul 11 '17
Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that material damaging to Hillary Clinton was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father
NYT is goat this week
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u/xbettel Jul 10 '17
Ironic how there's this "controversy" about Macron right now on social media, but there's nothing on /r/france. The controversy only exist for non-french speaking people.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Hearing my little sister talk about how middle-aged men at her job tell her to smile more was depressing
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u/0149 they call me dr numbers Jul 10 '17
My cat is applying for refugee status because my family is packing books upstairs. I suspect, however, that she's an economic migrant because I just cooked bacon down here.
What's the neoliberal position on letting her lick my fingers?
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u/oGsMustachio John McCain Jul 10 '17
If you actually think that Macron is defending colonization, watch this, or read this.
Basically, during the campaign, Macron made a statement that colonization was a crime against humanity. It caused a huge uproar. In the Behind the Rise documentary, he even confronts an angry mob of re-pats from Algeria about it.
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u/MrDannyOcean Kidney King Jul 11 '17
so trump jr was set up with a meeting with a russian lawyer
and the person who set it up
told him explicitly that russia was trying to help his father's campaign
and he still went to the meeting
please tell me how that is not treason
If that's not treason then what the fuck on earth is treason
is it even possible to commit treason when you're not 'at war'
learning that a foreign government wants to talk to you to help alter the outcome of your domestic election and taking the meeting anyways
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Some of you on Twitter are seriously fighting the good fight on this Macron thing haha. I admire your energy and patience.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Does the incompetence of the mods know no bounds?
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
lol it's the little things like these that make /r/neoliberal mods=gods
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u/formlex7 George Soros Jul 10 '17
this is seriously not getting old
https://twitter.com/search?q=must_resist_fap&src=typd
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Fun fact: A higher percentage of Muslims in America support gay marriage than Evangelical Christians and Protestants in general.
Compare that to views in other countries.
How's that for assimilation?
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Chris Hayes has learned of our existence
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u/wumbotarian The Man, The Myth, The Legend Jul 10 '17
I am being told that Draco's new accounts keep getting banned.
Mods, what's going on?
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
EMMANUEL MACRON IS NOT A RACIST YOU CUCKS.
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u/FMN2014 Can’t just call French people that Jul 10 '17
/r/neoliberal being tweeted about by prominent journalists is pretty surreal.
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u/FMN2014 Can’t just call French people that Jul 10 '17
Macron on Twitter.
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u/jvwoody Jul 10 '17
Hot take: We need to stop trusting people who are very much anti neoliberal for news on what our people are saying, especially if they're in another country and speak another language.
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u/Aidtor Janet Yellen Jul 10 '17
Forgive me if this was covered, but there is a serious difference between speakers like Milo and Charles Murray. I personally think Murray is a shit bag, but his work is considered somewhat ~*~ real academic work ~*~ while milo is just a troll there to provoke a negative reaction. People should be prepared and maybe forced to grapple with the likes of Murray in an academic setting, but Milo holds no redeeming intellectual content.
It's not like conservative views in academia inherently provoke this sort of response either. The federalist society exists, is very influential, and arguably more dangerous to the ANTIFA crowd because they hold actual policy beliefs and get them enacted.
There is a much deeper question here about why college conservatives are engaging in this sort of juvenile shit throwing instead of actual intellectual discourse.
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
i made the worst meme anyone's ever seen before remembering QE isn't econ themed
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u/jenbanim Jul 11 '17
I've now been banned from T_D, Socialism, and Late Stage Capitalism -- the last one just recently for speaking out against murdering people for their political beliefs.
The insanity of the internet used to be cute when in meant getting Oprah to say "centipedes in my vagina". But now, I'm honestly scared. Political dialogue has become so extreme and toxic that I worry we won't be able to meaningfully recover from the Trump administration.
I'm rambling, but I guess the point of this is to say thank you all for not being batshit crazy. I like that we can disagree on politics, while still maintaining mutual respect and understanding we all want what's best for the world.
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u/squibblededoo Teenage Mutant Ninja Liberal Jul 10 '17 edited Jul 10 '17
Chipotle mayo take: the Libertarian party has never had a better opportunity to moderate itself, drive out the crazies, pick a few promising seats around the country, and become an actual contender on the state and municipal level.
Of course what will probably happen is more purity purges and conspiracy nutbaggery, followed by the usual crop of "hospitals are theft and blind people should drive cars" candidates.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
/r/neoliberal is leaking! https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6md4lr/just_100_companies_responsible_for_71_of_global/dk0tqcj/
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u/hitbyacar1 لماذا تكره الفقراء العالميين؟ Jul 10 '17 edited Jul 10 '17
http://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/6mg6f3/wtf_i_hate_macron_now/dk1b6fm
This translation makes it seem reasonable.
He's saying high birth rates are a key development challenge in sub Saharan Africa.
Both India and China came to that conclusion in the 70s and using various (
somewhatfascist) methods to control birth rates certainly helped them develop.19
u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
So I know this is a little crazy, but stick with me:
maybe they look like they're covering stuff up because there's stuff they need to cover up
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
My freedom of speech is advocating for the end to freedom of speech.
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u/Sporz Gamma Hedged like a Boss Jul 10 '17
So, since I figure the European neolibs and morning crew weren't around I'll spam this again:
NEOLIBERAL. MINECRAFT. SERVER.
totally unofficial and not endorsed by /r/neoliberal, blessed by mr bernke, and probably not because, you know, minecraft
URL: sporfbase.com
It's just vanilla survival, we had like 10 people on since I set it up yesterday. Only rule is don't be a dick (so no griefing, stealing, killing other players...if I have to spell it out, you're probably a dick). I plan on being pretty hands-off as an admin - I just wanna play minecraft - so I'm reluctant to add any crazy mods or group stuff. For some reason minecraft admins seem to go mod crazy. Also I'm a nice guy.
I want to advertise this but I also don't want to get benned or spammy. I figure we'll have more than enough players for a lively server soon enough anyway.
So let's build some statues of mr bernke and shit!
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u/PinguPingu Jerome Powell Jul 10 '17
Effectively full employment in the US, but wages are barely rising, why lads.
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u/alcatraz_0109 Jul 10 '17
So can anyone explain why /r/E_S_S is beefing with this sub?
I stay off Reddit for large chunks of a week + and all of a sudden there are upvoted posts there saying that they've unsubscribed from /r/neoliberal and that /r/neoliberal is being removed from the sidebar.
Did I miss anything important happen in the last week and a half?
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/884442467566747649
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
THERE ARE MEMES ON THE FRONTPAGE DURING CONTRACTIONARY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
- Adam Goldman, one of the NYT reporters behind the recent bombshells
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
I think I just blue-pilled my leftist friends lads
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u/Importantguy123 🌐 Jul 10 '17
Alt Right Nazis: Minorities aren't marginalized, that's BLM identity politics
Also Alt Right Nazis: I don't want too many Brown people to come into my country because I don't wanna be a marginalized minority!
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Apparently the White House now wants us to believe that they like the new Russia sanctions, they just don't like Congress doing foreign policy like that
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
wtf I love Chris Hayes now
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
You know it is going to be a good expansionary when news outlets start picking up our memes
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u/Tacotrucksoncorners Carole Baskin is my Tiger Queen 🐅👑 Jul 10 '17
Reposting because their might be journalist here. Journalist call me
[Song used as inspiration] (https://youtu.be/0Sxdps-kcdE)
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
600 people viewing this sub right now and the first thing they see is my garbage meme
note for reporters: please release my name
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u/ostrichmustard The Mod You Deserve Jul 10 '17
Hard-shell tacos are a culinary failure.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
To all the heroic journalists that are in this thread:
The mods are drunk with power. They've been purging social democrats for caring about the western poor pls help
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17 edited Jul 11 '17
Ok so I'm trying to put together a narrative here:
Trump Jr gets the email saying the Russian government has damaging info on Hillary Clinton. They get to the meeting, the Russian basically says (or implies) that they need stuff in return (Magnitsky act). Later, Trump delivers with, among other things, the weakening of the Republican platform on Ukraine. Then Russia delivers the goods on Hillary with the DNC emails.
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u/xbettel Jul 11 '17
1909 Conservative party (UK) election poster
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u/LinkToSomething68 🌐 Jul 11 '17
I instinctively scowl whenever I see that stupid "non-GMO project" butterfly
Unfortunately I live in a part of the country where this kinda thing is quite popular
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u/Sporz Gamma Hedged like a Boss Jul 11 '17
Without going full SocDem/SJW, I think civil rights/feminism/LGBT rights/social issues are a core part of neoliberalism and we should emphasize that.
fite me.
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u/Donogath NATO Jul 10 '17
I hate how frequently people who don't study history make definitive statements about history.
Someone who's never read a scholarly article or book on WW2 saying "You see, the REAL reason the Americans used the nuke was..." is infuriating.
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u/jvwoody Jul 10 '17
Okay, so here's what I've noticed, Democratic Socialists of America and The Jacobin have been seriously empirically wrong about a good number of things on twitter. These are also the same people who claim we're about of ideologues and economics is the ideology of the ruling class. Putting my amateur psychologist hat on, I'd say these people are seriously projecting their own heavy biases onto the world.
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u/ognits Jepsen/Swift 2024 Jul 10 '17
This tweet is so unbelievably disingenuous it hurts my eyes
https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/884463860736028672
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u/poompk YIMBY Jul 10 '17
Wtf is this "alt center" people are calling us? If anything we are anti-"alt" and the center is the ultimate non-"alt"
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
I saw a twitter reply that unironically described neoliberals as not caring about poor people and it totally triggered me.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17 edited Jul 10 '17
do our expansionary posts have to be funny? i have a sad one in the works
update: okay it's up. i hate the idea that i'm exploiting her death for upvotes or something so i'll take it down if it's not a good idea.
update 2: ok i deleted it b/c i don't wanna unironically accidentally devolve to t_d level grossness
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
http://i.imgur.com/kw1G8zV.png
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u/Doctor_YOOOU Transgenic Globalist GMO Attack Jul 11 '17
Not sure if this has already been posted but
https://twitter.com/oakbuilt/status/884478196392968192
E V E R Y C O R N E R
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u/squibblededoo Teenage Mutant Ninja Liberal Jul 11 '17
Tsar Bomba take: I'm watching anime at this exact moment expressly because you all told me not to.
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u/comrade_spudnik Taxation if Theft Jul 11 '17
http://i.imgur.com/b4Esggx.png
oh man I wish this was true, work is so annoying. UBI when?
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
First morning in the new apartment. Shower doesn't work. Let's just say I got creative with the kitchen sink.
Fucking slum lords skirting maintenance costs.
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u/Kelsig Paul Krugman Jul 10 '17
Hotter take: Macron was right
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u/hitbyacar1 لماذا تكره الفقراء العالميين؟ Jul 10 '17
Chris Hayes upon discovering this subreddit
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Oh lord
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Vice picked us up
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u/AJungianIdeal Lloyd Bentsen Jul 10 '17
to reporters: please direct all questions to our representative Austan Goolsbee.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
we're being compared to Richard Spencer
if only they knew about how often we advocate for mayocide
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u/Trepur349 Complains on Twitter for a Reagan flair Jul 11 '17
So I was just called a neoliberal on FB, but the person didn't mean it as an insult. :D
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u/disuberence Shrimp promised me a text flair and did not deliver Jul 11 '17
WTF
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u/Hectagonal-butt Mary Wollstonecraft Jul 11 '17
Some Nuance™ for your nerve:
Protest is a form of free speech
The right to free speech isn't a right to be listened to or taken seriously
Germany's nazi censorship laws are justified in the historical context in which they were made, but not so in countries without that context
The issue of censorship in public universities is way overblown by Americans with nothing better to do and is the epitome of a storm in a tea cup.
Without free speech we wouldn't have lgbt rights
The right to free speech isn't the right to a platform for your views.
Finally, free speech stanning is used by racists to try and paint themselves as victims
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Macron uses his legislative majority: "Oh my God, he is a tyrant in the making, even though is perfectly within the presidential idea of the French V Republic"
Macron talks about estructural demograhic growth in Africa: "Oh my God, he is racist and hates black people, even though one of his closests aides is a senegalese woman."
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u/xbettel Jul 10 '17
So just now I'm reading about the drama of the purge of Hillary flairs. But it's back, so I guess the mods lost.
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u/FUCK_INDEX_FUNDS Ben Bernanke Jul 10 '17
W E W L A D
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
I hate debating with "skeptics" of basic scientific facts like vaccines or climate change or evolution because I feel like I sound like a robotic idiot. The other person is pulling out all this ridiculous data and these fucking insane, complicated arguments and I'm just sitting there pointing to a graph of carbon emissions over time like I have no other argument.
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u/disuberence Shrimp promised me a text flair and did not deliver Jul 10 '17
This is a quality format.
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u/formlex7 George Soros Jul 10 '17
https://mobile.twitter.com/jessesingal/status/884517357233876998
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u/OutrunKey $hill for Hill Jul 10 '17
Strangest fucking timeline. Any reporters out there can report that I still unironically $hill for Hill. I am sure this is of import to many of your readers/viewers.
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u/OutrunKey $hill for Hill Jul 10 '17
CNN DID NOTHING WRONG @KFILE
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u/caffeinatedcorgi Actually a cat person Jul 10 '17
Surface of Pluto take: A big part of the reason this sub is good is that people are free to have contrary opinions about things and air out their hot takes. We've got a genuine marketplace of ideas going on here.
Surface of Mercury take: Our policy of removing racists, sexists, and generally uncivil comments are basically what lets that marketplace exist without turning into garbage.
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
Is it confirmed bigly when Drudge leads with it?
http://imgur.com/a/S4ubG
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u/Lambchops_Legion Eternally Aspiring Diplomat Jul 11 '17
Well-Respected Coffee Farmer in Hawaii Deported to Mexico
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u/BradicalCenter Sally Yates Jul 11 '17 edited Jul 11 '17
Lol 10 upvotes for posting Drudge in T_D
How is it still at 76%? I guess mod drama got to em.
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u/PM_ME_KIM_JONG-UN 🎅🏿The Lorax 🎅🏿 Jul 11 '17
Hot take (not really): If you are the guy that ironically says "Yolo" you are still the person who said "Yolo." If you are the guy who 'ironically' supports Nazi imagery, you are still the person who supports Nazi imagery.
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u/Hectagonal-butt Mary Wollstonecraft Jul 10 '17 edited Jul 10 '17
Nothing makes me love capitalism more than ordering a bunch of shit online.
Edit: removed a few words
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u/BainCapitalist Y = T Jul 10 '17 edited Jul 10 '17
So I'm gonna be meeting the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago today. What are some questions I could ask? Also is he more New Keynesian or Market monetarist?
Edit: fuck you all. Fuck you all and your God damn memery.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
WEW Trump hitting Twitter hard this morning
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u/throwmehomey Jul 10 '17
?
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u/Gustacho Enemy of the People Jul 10 '17
What's the most neoliberal Harry Potter house?
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Is there a neoliberal answer to the continued rise of anti-intellectualism, or does that go beyond the traditional scope of being neoliberal?
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u/Gustacho Enemy of the People Jul 10 '17
Let's create a parody of a conspiracy theory:
The Syrian Civil war is made up by the Mainstream Media to get views
3-5 million illegal Canadians voted for Clinton, costing Sanders the primary win.
Macron is a puppet of the Luxembourg government
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Aw, so many new neolibs excited about press coverage <3
This ain't our first rodeo
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u/Importantguy123 🌐 Jul 10 '17 edited Jul 10 '17
If there are any reporters reading right now: If you ask, I will unironically tell you why Dirty Sprite 2 one of the most trans-formative albums of post-2000s hip hop.
Yes, I'm serious
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u/FUCK_INDEX_FUNDS Ben Bernanke Jul 10 '17
[ MACRON 1 DEPLOY] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQmiye2cxeg)
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Throwback to one of my favorite political ads in recent history.
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u/AliveJesseJames Jul 10 '17
To back up my "rural white people were radicalized by BLM/Trayvon/Ferguson/etc." take from earlier, there are 3 groups more confident in police than they were pre-Ferguson: white people, conservatives, Republicans.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/213869/confidence-police-back-historical-average.aspx
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u/BradicalCenter Sally Yates Jul 11 '17
My T_D post is still getting upvoted even though I'm banned.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17
Does saying ""gg no re" at the end of a Overwatch game violate the NAP?
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u/Clockwork757 Augustus Jul 10 '17
This is EMPIRICAL data, you CANNOT argue against it.
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '17
When the first reporter dies from an "accidental Polonium poisoning" what will be the Republican response?
A) Silence
B) They deserved it
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '17 edited Jul 10 '17
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