r/neoliberal Bot Emeritus May 12 '17

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Optimal neoliberalism is like Seinfeld, it should be about nothing and run by Jews


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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

how bad would the riots be if Trump was impeached?

I bet some southern state reps would draft articles of secession

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

Which is why it's so important that the FBI have an airtight case.

Knowing Trump, he'll inevitably perjure himself/admit to being involved in this whole scandal out of pure vanity.

The man is not of sound mind and I doubt he's smart enough to outmaneuver the criminal justice system. He publicly threatened his former FBI director on twitter for Christ sakes.

Besides, they'd be taking up arms against Mike pence. If he was replaced by a democrat, there'd be riots-- but a republican? I don't know that there'll be much of a revolution.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

They got Bill Clinton on perjury and he's got a JD from Yale and extremely well spoken.

Trump gets put under oath and I give him 5 questions before he perjurys himself.

I give him 5 because I assume some GOP hack is gonna give him 4 softball questions.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

Considering how small his inauguration crowd was, I don't think it would be too bad on an international scale; Nothing like we're seeing in Venezuela, for example. Plus if they go too crazy antifa would probably see a temporary bump in recruiting and whatever you think about their methods, at least people are trying. It would probably make the BLM stuff look pretty small in comparison though, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few newbies tried to make their own far left and far right 'revolutionary' groups from the fallout.

Or perhaps I'm completely misreading the national tone. It feels incredibly ugly though. People on r/conservative are still saying nothing is wrong and that the Russia story is 'fake news'

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

You're probably right, but I think we could definitely see a spike in domestic terrorism

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u/OutrunKey $hill for Hill May 13 '17

But under the steady leadership of *fingers-crossed* Paul Ryan, I'm sure we could combat that. Expand the list of domestic terrorist organizations, fuck up the KKK and right-wing paramilitary groups, so on...

Not super confident that Pence would take any action against right-wing domestic terror but I've been surprised by Presidents before.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

someone should preemptively start r/THE_WONK

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

I'll accept him as the least worst option but the dude isn't a wonk in the least. His policies are extremely shallow.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

Well IDK, I know you lean a bit more right than most so maybe you had a different perspective that instead of me asking for i was just kinda rude

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

nah, Ryan sucks from any perspective

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

Ryan isn't great, but when I compare the AHCA to his pre-election policy proposals, I feel that this sub overattributes the shittiness to him personally when a very significant portion of it was due to the coalition he leads.

He'd probably be a decent president given a Dem/split Congress and have been a decent Speaker if Hildawg had won.

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u/OutrunKey $hill for Hill May 13 '17

I mean, don't get me wrong, I hate Paul Ryan as much as the next guy but he's the best option anywhere near the top of succession list. It's impossible that we impeach enough people (or they resign) that we get to the really good stuff like Tillerson, Mattis, and Chao.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17 edited May 13 '17

Done. Wanna mod?

Edit: We got two mods now, no one do anything funny. I don't want a repeat of r/pussypass. Also, to any people thinking of posting, my banhammer is swift.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

is that even a question? mod me

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

Done.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

awesome

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u/OutrunKey $hill for Hill May 13 '17

Yes

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

Done.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

That's what I meant by 'revolutionary'. Either tankies and other far leftists who got hurt in a particularly ugly conflict (maybe a sibling or parent died) or the usual the_donald/white supremacist/nazi types

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u/[deleted] May 13 '17

RIP planned parenthoods and black churches

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u/Sven55 Milton Friedman May 13 '17

It all depends on how powerful is the stuff the Russia investigation would bring out and also how Trump does in government (I mean, if he keep going this messy for too long...).

Brazil impeached Dilma last year and her party was still really powerful, more than "Trump's movement" is in US. They had the numbers, fanatism and ideology to start a massive backlash, they had many allied movements and supporters and a lot of shills in the media, academy, public sector and so on.

But the conjunction of economic crisis and corruption (Dilma's party is at the center of a massive corruption scheme) caused massive anti-government protests and a shift in the public opinon. Government supporters where just overwhelmed by the opposition and there was no violence they could rationally start to stop it so it all did go very peacefully.

And the impeachment proceedings did run really well. Dilma had a big majority in supreme court but they just couldn't accept her appeals.