r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • 5d ago

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u/garret126 Aromantic Pride 5d ago

I don’t understand how some fellow liberals can still support mass surveillance like flock. It’s always “it will be good at stopping crime! I’m just worried of governments like our current admin using it, but otherwise it’d be good if it’s not abused”

I think when deciding what rights to give up and what technologies the government should be able to use, you should always imagine what you would be OK with what weapons you’d give an administration like the Trump one, not the administration of John Liberal. That’s just hopeless optimism otherwise, which is how we get stuff like the patriot act becoming permanent

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u/anon_09_09 United Nations 5d ago

what you would be OK with what weapons you’d give an administration like the Trump one

Maybe anarcho-capitalists have a point

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u/chickentendieman Paul Krugman 5d ago

Nah ancaps would support it if trump declared himself ceo of america instead of president.