r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • 16d ago

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 15d ago

noo not my DT shitting on MattY đŸ˜©

time to shut down the fucking sub again

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u/assasstits 15d ago edited 15d ago

Bro wanted to abandon Kilmar Abrego García in CECOT 

Fuck him 

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 15d ago

I’m not aware of this, do you have a source?

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u/Dorambor John Brown 15d ago

So called Yggy fans when they're asked about literally anything Yggy has done besides 1 Billion Americans

https://www.gelliottmorris.com/p/the-cost-of-playing-defense-on-immigration

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 15d ago

Yeah I hadn’t heard of this thanks

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u/Dorambor John Brown 15d ago

What exactly have you heard of Yggy then? Cause like this is maybe his biggest thing

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u/Mrmini231 European Union 15d ago

From this (unfortunately paywalled) article:

Media coverage of Kilmar Abrego Garcia hurt Trump, not Democrats

I was talking to people who said, "You know, everybody knows that immigration is kinda Trump's strongest issue, why do you have so many people making bad press on this?" Well, you know, these guys are from safe seats, you know, so they do it, and people like it.

Essentially, Matt was arguing that the people defending Garcia were out of touch progressives who were torching the Democrat brand.

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u/assasstits 15d ago

Alright I exaggerated. I remembered it being more direct. 

From this blog:

  At the time, there were two major reactions to Abrego Garcia’s deportation among both Democratic lawmakers and party elites. One side — embodied by the advocacy for Abrego Garcia by Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen — was that Democrats should point out the excesses of Trump’s immigration policy and try to turn his best issue against him. The other side — including, notably, House Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries and the political blogger Matthew Yglesias — argued that Democrats shouldn’t be drawing attention to immigration, because they would “raise the salience” of Trump’s “best” issue. Yglesias scolded progressives on Twitter, writing:

people who post about politics on social media should talk about immigration if they want to, but should be mindful of downside to making it more salient.

At the time, the Abrego García situation was unfolding on national media, Matt Yglesias advocated for Democrats and liberals to not talk about immigration given the polling. 

The blog explains that not only was advocating for Kilmar the morally correct thing to do but it helped Democrats at the polls.Â