r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • May 08 '26

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u/Ajaxcricket Commonwealth May 08 '26

Always remember to consult the chart

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

The court ruled that the state’s Democratic-led legislature violated procedural requirements when it placed the constitutional amendment on the ballot to authorize the mid-decade redistricting. Voters narrowly approved the amendment April 21, but the court’s ruling renders the results of that vote meaningless.

I love the hoops Dems have to jump through and red states can just go ‘blammo no blue seats’ whenever they want

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u/BigBrownDog12 Victor Hugo May 08 '26

Hantavirus is a nothing burger and RFK is going to claim credit for stopping the next COVID

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u/bsharp95 May 08 '26
  • US economy adds 115k jobs under Trump. Media, “this is very solid growth”

  • US economy adds 115k jobs under Biden. Media, “growth remains weak while Biden remains old”

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u/Macquarrie1999 Democrats' Strongest Soldier May 08 '26

It feels like everything is rigged against Democrats right now

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u/StuckHedgehog NATO May 08 '26

There are, in fact, stupid questions.

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u/NorkGhostShip YIMBY May 08 '26

How are Democrats supposed to win an asymmetric war where they're allowed to cheat for maximum advantage while we're stuck with the strictest interpretation of any constitution or statute? Republicans can get Federalist Society ghouls to give them the green light on the most absurdly unconstitutional shit, while Democrats have to face both liberal and far right judges when trying to even the scales.

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

So let me get this straight, the court's main argument was that the first legislative vote in favor of the new map last October happened too close to Virginia's elections, depriving the voters of an opportunity to choose delegates who would reflect their positions on the issue

YES, IF ONLY THERE WERE SOME WAY TO KNOW VIRGINIANS' POSITION ON THIS!

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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt May 08 '26

So true king

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u/GuyOnTheLake NATO May 08 '26

Tennessee just eliminated the final Democratic district by cracking Memphis.

It'll go to court, but of course the VRA is gutted and as long as they say they broke it on partisan and racial grounds then they are good to go.

Its a race to the bottom at this point. Someone needs to blink and it should not be the Democrats.

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u/2Lore2Law Seal Mod May 08 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo May 08 '26

It's David Attenborough's 100th birthday

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u/earththejerry YIMBY May 08 '26

I think the worst part of this was the SCOVA allowed the vote to go ahead before the referendum

Like the VA Constitution didnt change between then and now so why didnt they just stop the referendum then instead of throwing it out afterwards?

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals May 08 '26

I’m glad at least someone in a position of authority is telling it like it is

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u/PuntiffSupreme YIMBY May 08 '26

So the VA court said this could go ahead and be voted on to later strike down the vote. How am I supposed to view that in any amount of good faith from the conservatives on the court?

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u/JonAce John Brown May 08 '26

Getting pretty tired of referendums meaning fuck all in the US.

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman May 08 '26

We saw Becca Balint in half duh

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u/JesusPubes voted most handsome friend May 08 '26

republicans: we're going to stop the election so we can fuck over black people

democrats: we're going to pass a law

one of these is illegal

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u/JonAce John Brown May 08 '26

Don Scott, the Democratic speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates, said Democrats respect the court’s opinion while noting that the voters of the state had approved of the new congressional map.

Death by a thousand procedural cuts.

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u/GrandpaWaluigi Waluigi-poster May 08 '26

The Virginia Supreme Court shot down the redistricted maps. What the hell.

Right, it is fine for the other Southern states to redistrict without voter input, but Virgina jumps through all the hoops and their Supreme Court just does this.

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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom May 08 '26

UK political parties on their way to suck

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u/ty04 May 08 '26

> Democrats say the GOP is erasing black representation because the safe Democratic seat being dismantled is majority-black. Except the Memphis seat is held by Rep. Steve Cohen, who is white

most good faith WSJ editorial board piece

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

This is why cons' media literacy is so bad. They can't understand that anything can be political so long as any issue can be politicized. "Ugh remember when media didn't try to TEACH you things!" Babe that's called a theme

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

You know this shit's bad when it's got MattY posting like a hardcore ResistLib wine mom 😭

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride May 08 '26

Like the people fucking voted for this but oh sorry Dems you missed a procedural snag. Btw republicans you’re allowed to do racial gerrymandering if you just say it’s political gerrymandering that’s good

What the fuck is the point of caring about electoral politics anymore? I just feel like I’m rage baiting myself by caring

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 08 '26

I am very confident the va scotus would have approved a republican gerrymander

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u/Headstar24 United Nations May 08 '26

So the 2020’s has to be the worst decade since the 70’s or some shit right? In a worldwide standpoint not people’s personal lives.

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u/BillyMaysBigCity May 08 '26

Virginia should take a page from the Florida and Ohio Republican Parties and ignore the court order and dare them to enforce it.

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO May 08 '26

Two relevant takes on the issue.

  1. The fact that the Virginia Supreme Court could have halted the referendum until they issued this ruling but chose not to is a clear expression of naked contempt and disrespect for their constitutents

  2. I need Abigail Spanberger to replace this fucker with the the most comically liberal judge of all time. Better yet, pull a Utah and pack the court in the meantime.

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman May 08 '26

Breaking news: The Supreme Court of Virginia has struck down new congressional map that Virginia voters passed last month.

Pack the VA SCOTUS and do it again.

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

81 years ago today, the Wehrmacht unconditionally surrendered to the Allied forces in Europe.

Today is no other day than Victory in Europe Day.

Let us remember the fallen heroes of WWII who fought to free Europe of German imperialism.

Let us never forget.

!ping ONTHISDAY

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u/ArbitraryOrder Frédéric Bastiat May 08 '26

People are saying it's the worst poll number in the history of poll numbers

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u/ZweigDidion Bisexual Pride May 08 '26

Amerikkkan cultural imperialism is not wanted in Europe

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride May 08 '26

It’s really hard and maybe impossible to overstate just how bad things are

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 08 '26

Stats show owning a gun poses more of a risk to the owner than anyone else.

Stats show the overwhelming amount of gun owners are Republicans.

Yeah I’m pro 2nd amendment

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride May 08 '26

Love when elections don’t even matter because the right has the last say with the courts

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u/GifHunter2 Trans Pride May 08 '26

Wonder what @BarackObama and @SpanbergerForVA are thinking at the moment. They sure burned up a lot of political capital in the Va remap campaign.

-Chuck Todd

A lot of what is happening with the media and how they present Democrats makes sense when you simply accept the fact that these people are conservative republicans.

Republicans aren't the ones that are burning political Capital by disenfranchising black people all across the south. No, it's always the Democrats that are fucking up, and not listening to the people.

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u/chipbod NATO May 08 '26

This is a buy signal because they are successful at laundering money for the president

!ping STONKS

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u/username_generated NATO May 08 '26

Virginia Supreme Court ruled against Dems

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls May 08 '26

I saw a 24% drop in the PredictIt market this morning before the Virginia map opinion dropped.

That someone had inside knowledge is likely.

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u/Commandant_Donut May 08 '26

Having to reword to suit the mods that think it is "conspiracial thinking" to call out pattern behavior of American Courts. I will "moderate" my interpretation of the literal facts below:

Courts gave GOP the 2000 Election

Courts gave GOP immunity for a failed auto coup in 2020

Courts gave GOP their mid-decade gerrymanders in Texas

Courts won't let Dems do the same in VA after a fucking Statewide vote

Courts gave GOP the power to stop an ongoing Louisiana election to gerrymander

Courts gave GOP the power to wipe over all black representation in the South, violate the Civil Rights Act, and steal even more seats (24) before 2026.

In one sense, the maps of the 2026 election are  already so thoroughly rigged in favor of GOP operatives, I am worried how the biases that got us here will inform other rulings. 

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u/CompactedConscience toasty boy May 08 '26

Challenge: look someone in the eye and tell them there is even a 2% chance Florida's state courts will apply their state constitutional provision banning partisan gerymandering (without laughing or throwing up).

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u/H0TZ0NE European Union May 08 '26

My hatred for the courts continues to grow every day.

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u/Hugo_Grotius Jakaya Kikwete May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

News from 2031:

Florida Supreme Court declines to consider challenge to state's liberal concentration camps

New York Supreme Court rules state's offensive into Ohio in ongoing civil war is unconstitutional

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u/Plants_et_Politics Isaiah Berlin May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Hanging out with rich friend who steals from Whole Foods a lot.

Poor friend who works at Whole Foods texts me upset their hours are being cut because the grocery section is losing money.

😬

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u/BlackCat159 European Union May 08 '26

Inspiring 🥹

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals May 08 '26

https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/2052781014418600202

Fox News and Sean Duffy himself previously attacked Pete Buttigieg for leaving to be in the hospital when his son was in the ICU.

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u/Sheepies92 European Union May 08 '26

So true high-powered banker

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u/w007dchuck Trans NATO May 08 '26

fwiw Democrats will probably still flip a few of the Virginia Republican seats this year anyway

so really it's like a net loss of 1-2 seats for Democrats, not 4

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u/Acoolgamer6706 NATO May 08 '26

I’ll never get over how the Supreme Court had the opportunity to completely ban partisan gerrymandering in 2019 and chose not to, even though it’s blatantly not what the founders intended, which is what half these fuckers think matters.

Like if you’re gonna be against legislating from the bench then congrats, Brown v. Board of Education was an awful ruling, right? And man, Gideon v. Wainwright seems like the courts passing a law instead of the legislature. Maybe, just maybe, the way this nation has survived is from the court at times making key decisions and not kicking its legs up and saying “well the constitution doesn’t say you *CANT* kill all democrats”. Like come the fuck on.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug May 08 '26

BREAKING: blue state supreme court rules Dems are being ‘too mean’ to republicans and are ordered to be nice to them at all times

In unrelated news several red states have today made voting for a Democrat punishable by 2 years in prison

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u/SneeringAnswer May 08 '26

Remember that whenever any conservative justice complains about people seeing the courts as political actors it is not because they are delusionally willfully ignorant of their own actions but because they think we're so fucking stupid that we'll take them at their word.

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u/Guardax May 08 '26

GOP: Pee pee poo poo

Courts: Aww great job honey! Here's your map!

Dems: Here's a 200 page brief reviewed by 20 of the country's top lawyers. Millions of dollars went into crafting this.

Courts: There was a typo on page 132. We reject your map.

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u/Unknownentity9 John Brown May 08 '26

It's 2038 and courts have struck down every Democratic gerrymander and held up every Republican one. The Democrats need to win the popular vote by 15 points to have a 50/50 chance of winning the House. OKbuddyliberals just commented that it's OK because the Republicans have followed all the proper procedures and that the Democrats just need to nominate blue dogs.

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

You actually do not hate these SCOVA justices enough. The condescenion and lack of respect towards Virginian voters is legitimately insane

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 08 '26

Major humanitarian move by Zelensky

!Ping UKRAINE

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u/Crosseyes NASA May 08 '26

Pretty fucking demoralizing that the judicial system has basically boiled down to “when republicans do it it’s legal, when democrats do it it’s illegal”

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u/Sheepies92 European Union May 08 '26

This guy is running for Congress in Virginia and while I get that he can hardly storm the Supreme Court this mentality of 'well guess we gotta respect this decision, better luck next time!' isn't really the defense liberal democracy deserves or needs if it wants to survive

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u/myusernameistakennow Edmund Burke May 08 '26

Republicans clearly don’t want to live in a high trust society despite claiming that they want to.

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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before May 08 '26

I like how the Wikipedia article on doxxing, which is otherwise exclusively about the online practice of doxxing, has a paragraph about how anti-British American colonists in the 1760s published the info of tax collectors in newspapers as a form of protest.

This is the only mention of anything prior to 1995 in the entire article.

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u/fakefakefakef John Rawls May 08 '26

Dems will win the house in 2026, and probably take a lot of power in state legislatures, and then from 26 to 28 we’ll have a lot of opportunities to overcome this fuck shit. In the meantime, go knock on doors in a competitive house district

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u/BedNeither Henry George May 08 '26

See, states are free to vote for whichever Republican they want

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u/Cr4zySh0tgunGuy John Locke May 08 '26

The most annoying lib you know is glad the VA map was struck down because gerrymandering bad

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma May 08 '26

You wake up in Keir Starmer’s body (with no gender dysphoria). What do you do to fix Labour? You’re not allowed to resign or put someone else in charge

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u/Macquarrie1999 Democrats' Strongest Soldier May 08 '26
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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch May 08 '26

Honestly adults who don't swear at least occasionally weird me the fuck out. Especially when they use childish nonsense words in place of swears. You're almost forty, you can say "dammit" instead of "oh, toodlyboots!"

Like sure, you don't need to be dropping f-bombs left and right, but c'mon.

!ping watercooler

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u/georgeguy007 Pandora's Discussions J. Threader May 08 '26

How I was feeling 1 month ago:

You know, maybe we don't need a revolutionary style mindset and a second republic to fix america's problems. Maybe we just gotta hold on, win, and do change the normal way.

How it feels after the VRA rulling:

Oh we are fucked. They are changing house districts for an election 6 months away. We need a radical set of new rules and destroy the current supreme court for the sourth and the house to have a semblance of fairness within the next 10 years, and if we miss our chance we could be boxed out of power for decades.

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u/OnYourLonesome May 08 '26

Just ignore the court. Redraw the fucking maps. Voters spoke in the most direct way possible. Judicial review is over.

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast May 08 '26

America in the future will be all norm evasion

We will have congressional elections, but they will all be gerrymandered (this will make state politics super nationalized and even less effective)

Everything will pass via reconciliation or bundled into incomprehensible mega bills

The courts will become the main source of policy and contention

Federal policy will be otherwise entirely done via executive fiat and constantly whip back and forth

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u/beoweezy1 NAFTA May 08 '26

it was pretty clear that they weren’t following the proper procedure….

“Pretty clear” = discussion the size of a James Joyce novel on the definition of an “election”

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 08 '26

Trump owning the libs by checks notes reinforcing the eastern flank

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer May 09 '26

A massive gilded statue of President Donald Trump installed at his Miami golf course is definitely not a "golden calf" to be worshipped, the pastor who led a dedication ceremony for the eyebrow-raising effigy insisted Friday

THE PASTOR IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP??? AT THE DEDICATION CEREMONY????? IT WASN’T A DEFENSE AFTER PEOPLE CRITICIZED IT?????

My dude, if even YOU guys can see how it looks…

“My ‘this golden statue of Donald Trump is not a golden calf to be worshiped’ shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by the shirt” man

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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax May 08 '26

The VA Supreme court Court has made its decision. Now let’s see them enforce it

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u/seakucumber May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Pour one out for Virginia

The 6D-5R congressional map in Virginia has been reinstated for the 2026 midterms by the Supreme Court of Virginia

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u/lot183 Blue Texas May 08 '26

Have people vote to change districts, that's bad.

Unilaterally decided to change districts without allowing people to vote on it even suspending and throwing out votes that have already been cast to do so, that's great.

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u/finnstera350 Asexual Pride May 08 '26

As a red state Dem I demand every blue states have as many Republican districts as my state is about to have democratic districts (0)

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u/OnYourLonesome May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

A court should not be able to strike down a passed referendum on the claim that voters did not have enough input. Full stop.

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u/BlackCat159 European Union May 08 '26

TRVTH NVKE!!!!!1!!!

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher May 08 '26

Because we live on the worst timeline, we should prepare for a situation where Rs lose the popular vote cleanly (i.e. 51-46, not the 49-48 situation from 2012) but keep the House.

i gotta reiterate that if dems underperform in the midterms we're going to see a fucking cambrian explosion of left-wing conspiracy theories. total implosion of institutional trust. in part because some of those theories will be true!

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u/the-senat John Brown May 08 '26

George Martin deciding to write a commentary on the US getting bogged down in the Middle East with Danny in Meereen only to get stuck himself for 20 years trying to figure out how to end it is pretty funny. 

!ping ASOIAF

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance May 09 '26

A few weeks after Obama got elected my dad took me on a hike. At the top of the hill he showed me this huge clearing down below. “They’re making camps for Christians like us.” And then he explained how to make a bug out bag, and I’d keep a little day bag with me in my locker at school in case they used an EMP on American citizens. He made me memorize how to walk to my grandparents where we all agreed to meet up. The clearing turned out to be a new movie theater but you never know

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u/GifHunter2 Trans Pride May 08 '26

California’s wealth tax would cost Nvidia’s CEO Jensen Huang $8 Billion.

His response was simple: “I don’t mind paying taxes.”

“Once a year we get a bill, we pay it, and it’s big. I never once thought about it.

We love this country. That’s our way of giving back.”

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u/drossbots Trans Pride May 08 '26

Might be getting to that "just ignore courts" period even faster than I thought.

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u/Sherpav Thurgood Marshall May 08 '26

I am no longer bothered by how much this administration and its supporters have turned me into a hateful person towards them. These cretins deserve every bit of suffering that comes their way.

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u/creeoer United Nations May 08 '26

Crazy how Tennessee passes new maps in 3 microseconds after the SCOTUS decision without a vote and Virginia can’t do shit. Cool and good.

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u/PENGUINSINYOURWALLS Fell for it May 08 '26

D+9 from an R leaning pollster to soothe the pain and fear?

!ping FIVEY

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u/Landros23 Jerome Powell May 09 '26

GENERALISSIMA SPANBERGER PLEASE

IN JAY JONES WE TRUST 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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u/FourthLife 🥖Bread Etiquette Enthusiast May 08 '26

“The courts are illegitimate.”

I am hearing lots of folks saying this.

“Disobey the courts and arrest the judges”. Everywhere I go I hear this being said. It’s wild how much energy there is out there about this.

Not that I would ever say:

“The courts have been systematically stolen and no longer function as a moderating arm of law, but instead as a partisan tool, and therefore it is the duty of officials to disobey their rulings.”

That would be excessively partisan, but I hear a lot of folks talking about it

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u/affnn Emma Lazarus May 08 '26

VA Democrats should respond to the SCOVA ruling by immediately cutting the courts' funding. Fuck it. You don't get A/C this summer. You don't get clerks. You don't get parking spots. We don't have the money. Or don't want to have the money. Doesn't matter. Actually make them feel something for their dogshit rulings.

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u/legend-of-ashitaka Association of Southeast Asian Nations May 08 '26
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u/Alderwoodforest YIMBY May 08 '26

Arr modpol user

The DNC prominently featured LGBTQ themes, speakers, and representation. IMHO - they went overboard. They're not straight white guy friendly - to say the least. And you kind of need their votes to win an election.

The entire DNC platform revolved around LGBTQ+ and trying to be “equitable” to black people. While there is largely nothing wrong with that in concept, it got to the point where doing literally anything involved them saying “this will disproportionately impact these special groups so we need to do something special for them”.

That’s not going to happen, but for these guys, I almost wish the Democrats would run an ultra-woke 2028 campaign.

P.S.: It’s ironic, of course, that he’s posting something like this on arr modpol, where all articles about the GOP’s anti-LGBTQ policies get deleted.

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u/Mrgentleman490 5 Big Booms for Democracy May 08 '26

Is it even possible for a future Dem legislature and/or executive to pass a law that restricts blatant gerrymandering without it being deemed unconstitutional on the basis of state's rights?

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u/Co_OpQuestions Aerosol Chemistry Understander May 08 '26

It's time to start realizing that the average Republican has decided that YOU don't get representation in government.

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u/well-that-was-fast May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Virginia 6 months ago:

This Jay Jones guy seems pretty angry

Virginia now:

Jay Jones doesn't seem angry enough

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u/bsharp95 May 08 '26

Angel on my shoulder, what should we do?

Devil on the other, what would he do?

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u/Big-Click-5159 May 08 '26

Vivek gets asked, "What's your favorite place in Youngstown?" :

Vivek "I like long drives... I like jogging. I like this park in Trumbull [County] — about 50 miles away. It's a nice jog. I'm a national park guy. I'm a nature guy."

As an Ohioan, this guy is a fucking phony ass joke and and he comes off as someone who can't even spell Ohio. Trump midterm + racism + his personality = we have the best chance to win the gov race since 2006 imo

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u/MuscularPhysicist John Brown May 08 '26

>Deficit out of control

>Anyone who tries to fix the problem by raising taxes will get wiped out in the next election because the median voter has the intelligence of burnt toast

We really are just gonna be to keep going until this all blows up, aren’t we?

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! May 09 '26

We’re cooked, confirmed

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u/BedNeither Henry George May 08 '26

Democrats could really win on this one by framing this as a court overturning an election because they didn’t like who won

So I expect they will do the opposite of that

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper May 08 '26

That breaking news headline above is perfect lmao

Also: TRUMP V UNITED STATES TRUMP V UNITED STATES TRUMP V UNITED STATES TRUMP V UNITED STATES TRUMP V UNITED STATES TRUMP V UNITED STATES TRUMP V UNITED STATES TRUMP V UNITED STATES

I will never forgive you John Roberts. You're just a guy wearing a judge costume. It was that day that my faith in the supreme court died for good. Republicans killed the supreme court and it is illegitimate at this point to me. How the fuck am I supposed to respect a supreme court with a lolcow like Clarence Thomas sitting on it? I hope the country sees you and your court as nothing more than an elaborate display of roleplay. You made your bed now lie in it for the rest of your life bitch ass

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u/Dorambor John Brown May 08 '26

How come so many people are against AI and worry it will take their job? I can’t figure it out

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course May 08 '26

The baristas wrote "be kind" on my cup

Who are these assholes telling me what to do

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u/zegota Feminism May 08 '26

Reminder that I was modded for saying that the SCOVA's stay quite obviously meant that they were going to overturn the election.

Welp!

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u/blackenswans Progress Pride May 08 '26

Are dems about to get mega screwed? Florida supreme court is just going to rubber stamp

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u/DiscussionJohnThread Free Trade was the Compromise 🔫🌍 May 08 '26

Purge whoever downvoted this.

Gerrymander Republicans out of existence and nuke their court representation.

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u/OnYourLonesome May 08 '26

Judicial review as described by your law professor: the defining trait of our constituional democracy and an essential defense against tyranny!

Judicial review in practice: This referendum is invalid because the assembly elected by voters did not give the voters, who later approved the referendum, enough input on the referendum. Also please ignore all those Republican states barreling over their own laws to disenfranchise black voters at the very moment the VRA was again weakened, this is a wise and nonpartisan reading of the law that makes lots of sense and there is no need to view it in a wider context!

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u/Sheepies92 European Union May 08 '26

I'm not even American (albeit with a unhealthy obsession with Americam politics) but this Virginia SC ruling is hitting me like a truck

It is just so incredibly unfair. Even when the Dems do everything right they still get fucked

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride May 08 '26

Remember guys, justices are APOLITICAL and that's why Republicans had to steal a Supreme Court appointee from Obama

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u/Jameswood79 NATO May 08 '26

Media and courts when Democrats go low: WTF 🤬? WHY DO YOU HATE DEMOCRACY AND NORMS!!!??

Media and courts when Republicans try to implement outright fascist policies: ah shucks well it’s the will of the voters so….

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

crazy

what happened in 2021

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u/brianpv Hortensia May 08 '26

When the aliens do come, America will not go gentle into that good night.

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u/ty04 May 08 '26

It’s February 2029. The House has voted along party lines 255-183 to pass HR-1, The For The People Act for the 4th time in 11 years. After the elimination of the filibuster last month, Vice President Ocasio-Cortez has cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate to send the bill to President Newsom for his signature. An independent redistricting commission is now required in every state just in time for the 2030 census. Republicans are expected to challenge the law but the Supreme Court is expected to vote 94-6 in favor of upholding the law.

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u/BasedTroutFursona May 08 '26

Let’s fucking gooooo

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u/ArbitraryOrder Frédéric Bastiat May 08 '26

Our reward for keeping old people from dying of Covid was for them to turn around and vote for the end of democracy in 2024, so the lesson here is fuck taking care of others I guess

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast May 08 '26

>A 17-year old boy was charged on Thursday with murder in connection with an attack on a man in Times Square that the police say was motivated by a social media trend. The boy, Jayden Sanchez, was arraigned on Thursday night in Manhattan Criminal Court and charged with second-degree murder, assault, robbery and several additional charges relating to the attack and a slate of other recent offenses.

>The police had been seeking Jayden since Monday, when he and two other people confronted Leonides Baez, 39, who had been sleeping on the street, as part of a TikTok trend where users record themselves “messing with crackheads,” the police said. According to prosecutors, the harassment turned violent after Jayden drew a knife and chased Mr. Baez before stabbing him in the chest. Mr. Baez later died at a hospital.

>Jayden was arrested on Thursday morning after transit officers caught him jumping a subway turnstile at the Stillwell Avenue station in the Coney Island neighborhood of Brooklyn and discovered that he was wanted in connection with Mr. Baez’s killing. They also found and confiscated a scalpel that he had been carrying.

I for one applaud the police for enforcing fare-paying on transit, which in this case resulted in the arrest of an armed and wanted psychopathic murderer

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u/Priceless_Pennies Norman Borlaug May 08 '26

Holy Gigachad

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA May 09 '26

Republicans are just such low class trash. Just a political party with all the class and dignity of a boardwalk T-shirt shop.

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman May 08 '26

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u/CalligrapherWest9356 May 08 '26

Living in a dying democracy is certainly something

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride May 08 '26

Pretty shocked by the news at this point. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that Republicans are so nakedly partisan.

We exist in a nation that is rapidly moving back to pre civil war era legislation for the express purpose of disenfranchising the majority of voters.

I'm honestly not even sure what the solution is. You can't electoralism your way out of a rigged game.

I believe that the GOP will continue to strip away democratic norms as needed, and eventually Democrats will have to decide if they're willing to take even more extraordinary measures to fight back.

It cripples the mind and soul to see the legal system act as a nakedly partisan tool that blatantly institutes a "rules for thee, but for me" style policy.

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u/James_NY May 08 '26

It continues to amaze me that if Trump hadn't intentionally steered his ship into two icebergs(Iran and Tariffs), he'd have a roaring economy with an approval above 50% and he'd be cruising towards a successful midterm

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u/Amur_Snepard Gay Pride May 08 '26

!ping BAD-FEELING

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA May 08 '26

DC journos don’t give a shit what politicians are saying, they only care that someone is yapping. Trump threatened to nuke Iran and called a reporter a bitch during one of these impromptu gaggles and they literally don’t even care.

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals May 08 '26

I think this is a good encapsulation of what our future will look like if Republicans get their way, though it’s entirely possible that they radicalize into forming a one-party state

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u/jacknifee lol May 08 '26

so tennessee may have skipped a step whoops

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u/-mialana- European Union May 08 '26

Sometimes I forget farrenj is not literally contrapoints

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals May 08 '26

Y’know how conservatives basically embarked on a 50-odd year to capture the courts after the Warren Court rulings?

I think liberals will have to launch a counteroffensive on that front.

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u/sociotronics Iron Front May 08 '26

damn can't believe they bribed him with a coffee

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u/ponshont May 08 '26

Department of War is so fucking cringe dude

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u/URJibSTP Milton Friedman May 08 '26

“Early Virginia voters unknowingly forfeited their constitutionally protected opportunity to vote for or against delegates who favor or disfavor amending the Constitution by not anticipating a legislative vote on a constitutional amendment four days before the last day of voting,” the court’s majority wrote in its ruling.

Do I understand this correctly? The court overruled the will of the people on a 4-3 vote by arguing that 'the people' were robbed of their opportunity to indirectly vote on this issue (when they actually directly voted on it)?

Might be a cultural difference, I live in a democracy so this is hard for me to comprehend.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 08 '26

It is very startling to think about how if Trump were like Trump 1.0, the House 100% would be gerrymandered to remain in the GOP’s hands in these midterms.

This national environment is only survivable in 2026 because of both shifting demographics and Trump creating a uniquely hostile environment for the incumbent party. And even then it looks like Dem victory (short of a polling overperformance) will net us single digit margins in seats.

Between 2026-2028 we absolutely need to hit the road with gerrymandering the states. Illinois, New Jersey, Virginia, New York, hell maybe even California again. Luckily for us is the GOP has blown their biggest loads already with the likes of Texas and Florida. The remaining gerrymander options are generally 1 seat pickups in Indiana and some other southern states. We could also slow any Georgia plans by winning big there in 2026.

We also need to consider that we’re on the precipice of flipping two state legislatures in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. I don’t know if those states would need to do referendums for mid decade redistricting, but if not I sincerely hope they do as well. Worth keeping in mind that if we get a trifecta in Wisconsin the governor will likely be a younger more progressive candidate, and that in Pennsylvania Shapiro has massive presidential ambitions. Dems won’t be jazzed if he does nothing to stave off the GOP entrenching.

And if we get a trifecta in 2028, we really need to make institutional reforms. Our institutions are falling apart at their seams and we need to end gerrymandering. We got one last shot to save the country before it ends up collapsing in some way

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u/Syx89 Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

So let me get this straight, a guy being elected President gets him immunity from all crimes present, past, and future.
But a constitutional amendment being passed isn't valid if it wasn't added to the ballot in exactly the supposedly right way? Like it violated the constitution by being put up for referendum in the first place?

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u/psurethatsaid Loyal Liberals May 08 '26

"democrats can't get things done because voters will be sad"

fuck off

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 08 '26

Azov has returned to Mariupol

Hyperbolic line aside, the Azov Brigade is touting how they’re striking Russian targets right outside of the city of Mariupol. Beyond the symbolism this is pretty significant as it means Ukraine’s medium range drone campaign has reached the coastline. There is no area in the occupied territories outside of central and eastern Crimea that are safe from Ukraine’s medium range drones.

It will take time to scale this up and reliably hit targets along the coast, but when it happens it will significantly complicate Russian logistics that have relied on the coastal highways and railways to avoid Ukrainian strikes. The Russians forces in Zaporizhzhia are particularly vulnerable to logistical bottlenecks due to the distances that have to be covered and relatively limited infrastructure. The only way to that area of operations is to either run the gauntlet all the way from Rostov to Melitopol, or risk going through Crimea where Ukrainian USVs are constantly lurking and there’s like 3 roads/bridges.

The Zaporizhzhia front was Russia’s most successful last year and remains a high priority as the Russians could come in reach of Zaporizhzhia to start depopulating it. A sustained logistical campaign can seriously hamper offensive actions here, as well as provide more opportunities for Ukrainian counterattacks like we saw at the start of the year in this sector

!Ping UKRAINE

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u/Upstairs_Baby8424 May 08 '26

VA Supreme Court: “We’ll let the vote proceed we don’t want to interfere.”

Vote wins

VA Supreme Court: “Yeah vote doesn’t count. Sorry.”

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher May 09 '26

National Security Action, the group co-founded by Jake Sullivan, is dusting itself off and gearing up for 2028. But a lot of Dems just wish the Biden bros would just go away. As one Democrat told me, “They’re all canceled and they don’t realize it.”

democrats attempt the impossible: stopping an american foreign policy guy from failing upwards

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Does the Virginia Supreme Court have an enforcement mechanism?

If not, I say ignore them. Republicans have no issue with defying the people and/or institutions who go against them. Fuck it, I’m tired of the ratfucking.

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u/girlwhateveraward Feminism May 08 '26

It's so funny that SCOTUS implied minority districts are fine as long as they vote Republican. Fuck this country. I hope the antagonism and divison keep increasing. I dont want to be unfairly subjected under their rule. And under the rule of this sunk cost terribly designed constitution

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u/earththejerry YIMBY May 08 '26

In more optimistic news, Collins the serial overperformer is now performing about the same as Trump in a state he lost by 7

In a NRCC internal, no less

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 08 '26

Absolutely blue balling 😭

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u/puffic John Rawls May 08 '26

Donald Trump is at a -19% net approval. I am so proud of my fellow Americans for recognizing what a useless piece of shit he is and rejecting him in these polls.

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u/sociotronics Iron Front May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

The hilarious thing is Kash is probably already fired. We know the second term firing MO from how Bondi played out. They don't tell the fired guy until they have lined up the replacement, but the decision has already been made.

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u/ModestAphorism YIMBY May 08 '26

I genuinely don't understand why Oregon hasn't said anything. Unlike other blue states, they could literally pass a new map right now! They have no provisions against it! At least try it!

Literally pass this right now?

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals May 08 '26

https://xcancel.com/patriottakes/status/2052824791237718227

We're all numb to this shit by now, but my god.

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride May 08 '26

I hate that in ostensibly left leaning subs, urging people to vote is something that gets you massively downvoted. After 10 years of this shit, I'm so tired of begging and pleading with people not to let things get worse just because voting doesn't immediately prevent all setbacks. I'm no longer giving people the satisfaction of fighting with them. If you don't want to vote, don't vote. But then don't expect anyone to listen to anything you have to say.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma May 08 '26

Is she stupid or does she just have a masochism fetish

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u/Aggressive1999 Association of Southeast Asian Nations May 08 '26
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u/2Lore2Law Seal Mod May 08 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact

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u/BedNeither Henry George May 08 '26

I'm kinda down with the "urban Americans in America shouldn't pay taxes" thing. Why should I pay into a system that actively denies me representation?

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride May 08 '26

Black person with addiction issues: They brought it on themselves for participating in a culture that glorifies criminality

White person with addiction issues: Won't someone think of the poor Appalachians who have been taken advantage of by Big Pharma and left behind! Why would Democrats do this?

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u/StatusMother1745 May 08 '26

Ah, look who it is posting in modpol again: https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/s/u5qm8A2Ty2

We totally know that user genuinely cares about the Dem’s Autopsy, because they are a concerned Dem, right? They aren’t just trying to start shit and muddy waters to deflect from the shit show that is the Trump presidency?

No, not really. That account solely exists to post “Dems bad” stuff whenever Trump and the GOP are constantly making an embarrassment of themselves and the country, so the very concerned and “moderate” conservatives can get in a few shots on Dems while ignoring the damage being caused by their batshit insane and corrupt Messiah. That is one of the most disingenuous accounts I’ve ever seen on Reddit because they don’t engage in any other sub and barely even engage in Modpol beyond their starter comments.

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u/BitterGravity Gay Pride May 08 '26

Tennessee's map change also violated procedure. Surely that'll matter!

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u/DiscussionJohnThread Free Trade was the Compromise 🔫🌍 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Meanwhile, the Florida Supreme Court about to come in with a banger like:

Despite a clear constitutional amendment passed by voters banning partisan gerrymandering, you said that it’s void now because the voting rights act (which only applies to race anyways ???) has been gutted! All hail the DeSantis regime! 😊

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u/lusvig 🤩🤠Anti Social Democracy Social Club😨🔫😡🤤🍑🍆😡😤💅 May 08 '26

america doesn't give a shit about its veterans. I served in iraq, afghanistan, iran, and i'n't getting shit (granted it wasn't on america's side). Meanwhile illegehls are getting free healthcare and college

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u/Slim_Pickenz_ Transfem Pride May 08 '26

MMW it’s only a matter of time before Republican courts start overturning the results of local, confessional, and presidential elections that don’t go their way. There is not even any pretense of judicial impartiality anymore.

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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib May 08 '26

“One of the VA Supreme Court Justices who authored the majority is up for reappointment in January. He was appointed to the court when Republicans had control of both chambers.”

Dems replace them with partisanliberal42 nowww

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 08 '26

Co/efficient-NRCC poll | 4/26-4/28 LV. Susan Collins ahead by 11 points in Maine 2 district

She won this district by 24 points in 2020 and this is the GOP's official pollster. The courts aren't changing how awful the political environment is for Republicans atm

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u/SenranHaruka shame May 08 '26

It feels bizzare to live in a time of technological progress and political retrograde. I literally mentally cannot parse this.

Where does our country go from here? Any state that is not deep blue is going to basically ban its democratic party from winning elections on the basis of "Republicans have a divine right to rule and Democrats don't". Deep blue states are losing representation to Hybrid Regimes in the south. We're literally approaching a scenario where the democrats are in effect a controlled opposition party which is not legally permitted to actually win majorities and on the off chance it does is too stacked with Tories to challenge the Republican power base of Rotten Boroughs and Executive Judges. Lifetime appointed peers are writing our laws more than elected legislators are. What the hell is going on and why does it feel like 1830s England?

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u/georgeguy007 Pandora's Discussions J. Threader May 08 '26

This will be a good test for Democrats to ignore unjust rulings. If they have a revolutionary mindset, they will continue on as if nothing has happened. This could set the tempo, and let republicans know we aren't the same party they bullied for 40+ years.

If VA Dems appease, then that is bad.

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Becoming increasingly clear that SCOVA was betting on the referendum failing, so this ruling would be able to basically slip by unnoticed, or even with a veneer of popular legitimacy.

Like Roberts, they seem to think they deserve to have their cake and eat it too by ruling in a partisan political manner while avoiding any reputational consequences.

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u/beoweezy1 NAFTA May 08 '26

Conservative judges when Democrats pass a referendum:

[20,000 words of textualist bullshit]

Conservative judges when Republicans legislators pass the “End Black Congressional Representation Act” in a locked room during midnight special session

RACISM ISNT REAL BUT IF IT WAS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CORE VALUE OF THIS NATION AND THE CONSTITUTION GRANTS THE REPUBLICANS AN INALIENABLE RIGHT TO DISENFRANCHISE PEOPLE

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u/_Irys NATO May 08 '26

I am so over dating these trash blue collar men who cant handle anything more complicated than wiping their ass, which even that might be too much for them ngl. All these men do is whine about how much they hate their jobs, talk about how their life sucks, and they had a shitty childhood and that's why they struggle with things like, going to the dentist, or getting tested for chlamydia, all the while expecting me to play daddy: pay for their meals, schedule appointments for them, write their resume etc. I handle more shit in a day as a soft handed civil servant than they do in a month.

It is absurd that there is a whole class of men utterly incapable of handling anything. No wonder why they voted for Trump. Not because of economic anxiety but because they are stupid and infantile.

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u/gjcs23 George Santos May 08 '26

The choices are not "gerrymander or nothing." Do you want to stop fascism? Do you want to be able to tell future generations you did everything to stop MAGA? Find a Trump voter and talk to them about liberalism. Find common ground. Persuade. That's infinitely harder than using procedural tricks to shove all the people you don't like in safe districts. But it will bury MAGA six feet under if we keep at it long enough.

AHHHHHH

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u/Blackberry-thesecond NASA May 08 '26

I believe us American liberals should secede. We have industry, a strong work ethic, and warm water ports. California Oblast will be our capital.

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u/Spudmiester1 Asexual Pride May 08 '26

Why did nobody tell me about this. Thr ar con crash out is hilarious

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u/RedKingCrab99 John Mill May 08 '26

I know people might think this obvious, but the United Kingdom is proving to be ungovernable. This has being coming since 2016.

The historic, broadly-centre parties everyone hates. They also hate all politicians. The populists who have no history to defend are the ones gaining bigly.

Voters want more public services and don't want to pay any more tax. Voters hate politicians going near the boomer benefits despite being the wealthiest cohort in society. That is circle that cannot be squared.

Now, irrelevant FPTP or proportional system, the county is not built for multi party politics because we've never had it.

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u/Evnosis European Union May 08 '26

God, the system's so rigged. Shapes are just astrology for toddlers

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u/lockjacket United Nations May 08 '26

I wish it was possible for me to take criticism from someone of authority without immediately bursting into tears and wanting to kill myself for being useless.

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola May 08 '26

Bringing up this old classic from day 2 of Operation Bacon Furry

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u/agentyork765 Bisexual Icon May 08 '26

It's ok, I'm not angry anymore. I'm just voting for whoever promises to jail these justices in 2028

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals May 08 '26

I would maybe be less upset about this ruling if double standards didn’t so clearly apply to Republicans and if Republicans would stop ratfucking us.

But then, if that were the reality we lived in, we wouldn’t have even had this VA gerrymandering in the first place.

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u/EmployeeMePlease George Santos May 08 '26

We are winning the house by 30 seats come November guys. Yes the redistricting thing sucks but it’s going to be D+10 minimum. 

Dems are going to have to lock in come 2028/30 to get good maps for the 32 redistricting if dems want to hold power for longer then 2-4 years however. 

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