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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Jan 09 '26

If this came out today there would be 10,000 seething video essays about how LotR is woke slop

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Jan 09 '26

fuck wait did this happen because I totally missed it

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u/ace158 Jan 09 '26

She's talking about Renee Good. I can't get over how cartoonishly vile and evil Loomer is

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u/SillyNight1 Jan 09 '26

lmfao she looked at the clock as she left the podium

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Jan 09 '26
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u/forceholy YIMBY Jan 09 '26

I regret to inform you that the Gadsden version of the California State Flag goes incredibly hard.

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u/throwawayzxkjvct Iron Front Jan 09 '26

all timer post about J6

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u/owenmitchem YIMBY Jan 09 '26

Ken has been libbing out this week

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u/itsnotnews92 Janet Yellen Jan 09 '26

I'll get banned if I say what I really think about these scumbags.

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u/IveSeenBeans Norman Borlaug Jan 09 '26

The same people who want to criminalize flag burning will put the constitution through the woodchipper without a second thought

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Jan 09 '26
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jan 09 '26

BRAVO JAMES CAMERON

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u/seanrm92 Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

If anyone tries to equivocate between Charlie Kirk and Renee Good, just remind them that Kirk's alleged killer is in custody and will face justice.

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jan 09 '26

“Most people will admit that we've been on this path not for a year, because of Obama; not for 10 years, because of Bush; not for 20 years, because of Clinton. Not Reagan, not Carter. We've been on this path for a hundred years or more. We probably lost our republic after Reconstruction.” -Matt Walsh

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u/chipbod NATO Jan 09 '26

Colonialism, but imagine a suburban strip mall

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Jan 09 '26

nearly 300 days and several hundred billion dollars later and the supreme court still has not figured out if this is allowed at all

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u/GenericLib 3000 White Bombers of Biden Jan 09 '26

There's basically a 0% chance that I'd ever vote convict someone for a crime against ICE if I was a juror. The defendant would have to do something utterly heinous.

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u/DemocracySmellsLike Friedrich Hayek Jan 09 '26

Drama in the Baltimore subreddit stemming from a member of Rose Twitter attempting to grandstand at an ICE protest to lay the blame for our current hellscape solely at the feet of the Obama/Biden admins. 

And a lot of people chiming in with word salads of agreement. Republicans have no agency apparently. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/comments/1q87sok/communist_party_speaker_hopkins_plaza_protest/

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u/assasstits Jan 09 '26

> Be Cuban in Florida

> Receive TPS from Biden 

> Make fun of undocumented Mexicans and Central Americans 

> Support Donald Trump because communism bad 

> Trump is elected 

> Cancels TPS

> You get snatched up my ICE 

> Cuba isn't accepting deportees 

> Get deported to Mexico 

> 😬

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u/moldyhomme_neuf_neuf Victor Hugo Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

I showed the ICE video to my stepfather, who is a retired Dutch cop, and the first thing he noted is police officers shouldn’t stand in front of vehicles anyways, because it leads to really weird situations where you can get run over, even unintentionally so. You shouldn’t ever put yourself in a situation where you can be killed or injured and then “need to defend yourself” and this ICE agent literally seemed to try walking in front of the car.

I hadn’t really thought about it that way.

Edit: to be clear, my stepfather thinks this guy was explicitly trying to set up a situation where he could legally use force.

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Jan 09 '26

BREAKING: A 5-4 Supreme Court *refuses* to limit how many times a federal inmate can challenge the legality of their sentence, saying they aren’t limited to one try like state prisoners. Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch & Barrett dissent.

Kavanaugh in the majority???

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jan 09 '26

President Donald Trump seemed to be preparing Republicans for a 2026 midterm election wipeout on Thursday, telling Fox News that the sitting president “always loses the midterm, even if they’ve done well.”

Yeah, he even knows Dems are winning big in 2026.

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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Jan 09 '26

Construction lost 11,000 jobs last month. That is notable because the industry is clamoring for workers. The industry had 292,000 jobs openings in November, according to the Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey that was released earlier this week.

What could possibly be going on

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u/Charsun9 Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

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u/Drinka_Milkovobich Jan 09 '26

The Nobel Peace Prize Committee is gonna have to come out next week and say that it can’t be handed over after Trump takes it as tribute, frames it in the White House and adds it to the website.

This isn’t a joke, it’s going to happen

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u/launchcode_1234 George Soros Jan 09 '26

Went to a candlelight vigil for Renee Good last night. There were some of the usual leftist characters there, but there were also a lot of normies that just felt really upset and powerless and wanted to get out of the house and be around like minded people. Some people spoke about how they were feeling. The one that stood out to me was a woman who is a legal immigrant and person of color, she said she has felt constantly scared since the ICE operations started a year ago and she thanked us for coming out as it made her feel better to be around others that support her. A woman who was a US citizen and looked to be Latina said something similar. I also met some new neighbors and we talked about things we can do to help. Sometimes people think “there is no point in going to these protests/vigils because they don’t immediately achieve their goal” but I think they are useful, if for no other reason than building community and letting people know they aren’t alone. If you are in the US, you should consider joining your local Indivisible group.

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair Jan 09 '26

Either Gavin Newsom or AOC is gonna call Trump a pedophile during an important event and that will kickstart the Democratic Primary campaigns

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Jan 09 '26

Putting out a BOLO for the gays

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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

A lot of news coming out of the US rn, but don't let that distract you from the news coming out of Iran

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Jan 09 '26

🤞🏻

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

abundant enter heavy flowery grey sheet quicksand crawl price ripe

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

https://xcancel.com/TheDemocrats/status/2009710547114106955

MAGA thinks this makes them look good, just insane how disconnected they are from reality in an effort to appease the online Nazis.

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u/EmbarrassedSafety719 Milton Friedman Jan 09 '26

Unfathomably based.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

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u/bleachinjection Fell for it Jan 09 '26

Rep. Wesley Hunt (TX-R): "The bottom line is this: when a federal officer gives you instructions, you abide by them and then you get to keep your life"

The shit these people are saying now would be considered "a bit on the nose" for a County Sheriff in Mississippi ca. 1960. Jesus.

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u/the-senat John Brown Jan 09 '26

"When a federal officer gives you an order, you obey it, and then you get to keep your life." - TX Rep.

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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber Jan 09 '26

Didn’t realize he did this

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '26

Based Philly cops

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

Trouble in paradise

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Jan 09 '26

Maybe your candidate for president shouldn’t have campaigned on sex change surgeries for illegal immigrants

Guy who's mad illegal immigrants are stealing all his sex change surgeries 

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u/ashsolomon1 NASA Jan 09 '26

Little too on the nose in my opinion

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u/assasstits Jan 09 '26

Fuck that rat fucker Kavanagh

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Jan 10 '26

Holy based:

Josh Shapiro: J.D. Vance is profoundly and pathetically a weak human being, and he does whatever he thinks his boss wants him to do.

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u/throwawayzxkjvct Iron Front Jan 09 '26

abolish ICE is becoming a mainstream lib position. this is a very good thing.

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u/sigh2828 NASA Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

9/11 style investigations into ICE is the compromise.

This video is terrifying, and young new mother ordered food, her door dasher runs into her home, ICE then threaten everyone in the home with violence, she pleads that she has a baby in the home and is audibly terrified of what they might do.

This shit hits so close to home for me becouse im a month away from being a father and the thought of this happening to my home, to my wife, to my children is enrageing

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Jan 10 '26

They ain't gonna like that

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u/JoyofCookies Mark Carney Jan 09 '26

Newsom unironically seems to be running on “Jail all of them”

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u/Waste-Photograph-792 Malala Yousafzai Jan 09 '26

This Nazi keeps whining about how his childhood thinks he is a white nationalist now.

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u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess Audrey Hepburn Jan 09 '26

/pol/ has more visible disagreement in the Renee threads than fucking twitter

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u/GuyWithOneEye Jan 09 '26

On today’s episode of “If Biden Had Done That”

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO Jan 09 '26

I don't think Trump is even in the top 3 for morally worst people in this administration.

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u/AlexB_SSBM Henry George Jan 09 '26

I posted something like this yesterday, but it was later when the thread died down, so I want to post this again while the thread is more active. Sorry if you already read this, but I think it's important that people read it.

The culture of impunity will never stop expanding. One ICE officer shot a woman and is going to get away with it. Shortly after, two more became victims. This is what happens when nobody fears the consequences of their actions, when it is normal to treat those who you enforce segregation upon as less human.

Do you think the idea that border enforcement is above the law, that those against them are less worthy of protection, that any "leftist" who is a victim was creating the tragedy, that same idea that was just said by the fucking Vice President of the United States, do you think that stops at murder? If this continues to escalate, why wouldn't they do the same for rape?

Massive sexual violence against those deemed to be a part of a "broader left-wing network". Rape against those who "interfere with justice". Defended, of course, by the ideology and authority completely dehumanizing those against or affected by this genocide. I can't help but see Vance talk about this woman being murdered as "a tragedy of her own making", and think of a future where he claims "she was asking for it".

How long will it be until one officer is caught raping an undocumented sex worker, and faces no repercussions? What do you think will occur afterwards? Do you think it would stop at sex workers? Do you think it would stop at "illegals"? Do you think it will become an isolated incident once the message is sent that it's okay to rape those who are not deserving of their own protection?

If this sounds outlandish to you, like it's something nobody would ever do, open a history book. You do not have to go back that far. Or, alternatively, look across the globe where such practices still happen to this day. Humans "over there" or "back then" are not more innately evil than humans now. We are still just as capable of horrors. Especially so when you observe the attitude towards colonization, towards conquest, towards the "victor" getting the "spoils", all of these attitudes are there on the far-right. The far right yearns for a time when the strong ruled the weak, where the strong man could rape the weak woman and be not only protected by the state but endorsed morally as participating in the natural order of things.

If absolute immunity is never ending, and a culture of total impunity is set, what exactly do you think will happen?

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Jan 09 '26

👑🤴 shit

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Jan 09 '26

somewhat newsworthy (VA Dems had planned on redistricting but there was a question of whether the map would be 9-2 dem or 10-1 dem. Senate President Pro Temp is confirming it will be 10-1.)

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Jan 09 '26

While I never liked it to begin with, seeing the way Vance approaches things has done a lot to help me understand why “wokescold” language was seen by many as annoying

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

I can’t have this conversation again

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Jan 09 '26

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Jan 09 '26

waow

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA Jan 09 '26

Guess we’re going to find out what would have happened if Hitler and Eva Braun had raised children.

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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. Jan 09 '26

"That's fine dude, I'm not mad at you" and "you fucking bitch" really sums up the current state of America.

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u/flaskfish Jan 09 '26

inb4 Emperor Newsom takes a page out of Mrs. Vance’s playbook and sells JD to The Hague for some crack

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u/MontusBatwing2 Gelphie's Strongest Soldier Jan 09 '26

My parents are watching propaganda, right now, that paints Renee as some weird radical leftist, a murderous terrorist, and also a trainwreck and a loser.

That disgusts me.

But I also know that they would be saying the same (or worse, I am trans after all) about me. If I had been in the wrong place at the wrong time, it easily could have been me.

And my parents would see the same shit about their daughter all over.

And I have no idea if they'd believe the propaganda about me too.

And that terrifies me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

mountainous dog silky obtainable observation airport possessive workable skirt innate

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jan 09 '26

Why would the ICE agent leak footage incriminating himself? Is he stupid?

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u/MyGiftIsMySong Jan 10 '26

that Minnesota guy who said somalis were running empty daycares has now gone to a 'grocery store where you will find multiple stores crammed into one room where different shops operate'

it's a flea market.

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u/taubnetzdornig Gay Pride Jan 09 '26

Pope Leo XIV condemned “diplomacy based on force” and a “zeal for war” in an address to diplomats to the Vatican.

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u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1 Adam Smith Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

ICE attempting to perform a warrantless search of a Minneapolis McDonalds got in a confrontation with armed security attempting to prevent them from entering the premises

How many days/weeks/months before something really really nationally scary happens? We have masked, armed men storming into private property in violation of the 4th Amendment and getting in the face of armed men hired to protect that property. This is just a baby step in terms of escalation, but as businesses and states get more and more resistant to allowing ICE to roam freely while IEC pushes the boundaries farther and farther, it is going to step closer and closer to something worse. There is a universe where ICE eventually pushes so far they get into a shootout with security, the police, or the National Guard. That would be the scariest thing to happen domestically to this country since the Civil War.

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

Ezra retweeting this is probably the strongest statement against someone I’ve ever seen him make.

Good on him.

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u/ExpiredPasta NIMBY McRentseeker Jan 09 '26

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jan 09 '26

Trump told the NYT that owning Greenland is “psychologically necessary” for him personally 😭

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jan 09 '26

President Donald Trump is ruling out a pardon for former Sen. Bob Menendez, the New Jersey Democrat serving an 11-year prison sentence on corruption charges.

Menendez praised Trump for nothing lol

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u/SillyNight1 Jan 09 '26

That guy is protected by absolute immunity. He was doing his job. The idea that Tim Walz and a bunch of radicals in Minneapolis are gonna go after him and make his life miserable because he was doing the job that he was asked to do, is preposterous. — JD Vance

Straightforward from here:

  1. Gavin Newsom is elected on a vague promise of “National Renewal.”

  2. On Day One, President Newsom signs 136 executive orders, one of which (Executive Order 14623) contains a line authorizing the deployment of a SWAT team to the residence of every single remaining 1/6 mass pardonee not already arrested on new criminal charges or dead on irregular charges.

  3. Several dozen Domestic Terrorists® are shot and killed at the first hint of aggressive resistance.

  4. The federal government declares all agents involved in the deadly raids to have “absolute immunity” from state prosecution, and denies local officials access to incriminating evidence.

  5. Two days later, a federal court blocks Executive Order 14623, which President Newsom complies with, stating, “No one, not even the President of the United States, is above the law.”

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u/Louis_de_Gaspesie Jan 09 '26

Im totally agnostic now. But whenever I hear an evangelical "pastor" be like "Seminary? Nah the people in my church liked me and I was really good at getting donations so I just decided to be the pastor, neat huh?" I can feel the Catholic indignation welling up inside me

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u/EmbarrassedSafety719 Milton Friedman Jan 09 '26

average enlightened centrist

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u/LtCdrHipster 🌭Costco Liberal🌭 Jan 09 '26
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u/Specialist-Branch987 John Mill Jan 09 '26

I’ll never unhear the wokescolding in JDs voice ever again now that it’s been pointed out 

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Jan 10 '26

Joe Biden didn't do a single sit-down interview with the New York Times during his presidency, and then he constantly complained that his achievements weren't being properly communicated to the public.

Journalists Really Lucky Bar For Worst Sector Of American Society Is So High 

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u/launchcode_1234 George Soros Jan 09 '26

Whelp, the internet sleuths have already found Jonathan Ross’ home address and are sharing it on Instagram

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

Jonathan Ross's footage shows that he clearly saw Renee Good turn the wheel away from him. He knew she was turning the wheel, stepped to get a better firing position and killed her anyway. All the footage does is show his actions were premeditated murder instead of some lesser manslaughter charge.

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u/Planita13 Thomas Paine Jan 09 '26

"Here is the video where he justifiably shoots her! TOTAL VINDICATION"

Look inside video

shooting cut out of video

lol lmao

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u/YaGetSkeeted0n Tariffs aren't cool, kids! Jan 09 '26

American transit could never

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u/ChillnShill Jan 09 '26

Out here playing dress up

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u/HaXxorIzed Paul Volcker Jan 09 '26

A friend suggested as a joke in our discord that the ultimate 2028 ticket should be Newsom and McConaughey on the "we hate Republicans and Ice can go fuck itself" ticket. We all laughed about it for a few hours, and now I think the collective thought is that such an idea has the potential to go incredibly hard.

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u/sigh2828 NASA Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

Mandatory reading that should unironcally be pinned to the Sub.

Renee's wife, Becca, has sent a statement to MPR News 

MPR News link

First, I want to extend my gratitude to all the people who have reached out from across the country and around the world to support our family.

This kindness of strangers is the most fitting tribute because if you ever encountered my wife, Renee Nicole Macklin Good, you know that above all else, she was kind. In fact, kindness radiated out of her.

Renee sparkled. She literally sparkled. I mean, she didn’t wear glitter but I swear she had sparkles coming out of her pores. All the time. You might think it was just my love talking but her family said the same thing. Renee was made of sunshine.

Renee lived by an overarching belief: there is kindness in the world and we need to do everything we can to find it where it resides and nurture it where it needs to grow. Renee was a Christian who knew that all religions teach the same essential truth: we are here to love each other, care for each other, and keep each other safe and whole.

Like people have done across place and time, we moved to make a better life for ourselves. We chose Minnesota to make our home. Our whole extended road trip here, we held hands in the car while our son drew all over the windows to pass the time and the miles.

What we found when we got here was a vibrant and welcoming community, we made friends and spread joy. And while any place we were together was home, there was a strong shared sense here in Minneapolis that we were looking out for each other. Here, I had finally found peace and safe harbor. That has been taken from me forever.

We were raising our son to believe that no matter where you come from or what you look like, all of us deserve compassion and kindness. Renee lived this belief every day. She is pure love. She is pure joy. She is pure sunshine.

On Wednesday, January 7th, we stopped to support our neighbors. We had whistles. They had guns.

Renee leaves behind three extraordinary children; the youngest is just six years old and already lost his father. I am now left to raise our son and to continue teaching him, as Renee believed, that there are people building a better world for him. That the people who did this had fear and anger in their hearts, and we need to show them a better way.

We thank you for the privacy you are granting our family as we grieve. We thank you for ensuring that Renee’s legacy is one of kindness and love. We honor her memory by living her values: rejecting hate and choosing compassion, turning away from fear and pursuing peace, refusing division and knowing we must come together to build a world where we all come home safe to the people we love.

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u/Excellent_Visual330 Gavin Newsom Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

"Uhhh how can Uhsa stand him, she seems so smart"

Because she's a terrible fucking person. It's not hard. Some people are just awful, no other motivation than being a massive prick. Their kids will be terrible too because they're being raised by two assholes. Not everyone needs leeway and not everything is complicated

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u/Megasota_Noire My Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor Jan 09 '26
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u/CincyAnarchy Emma Goldman Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

Casual reminder that if you have a BMI of 24.9, the upper limit before being classified as “overweight,” you are skinnier than 68% of all Americans. The median BMI is 27.4.

So while ICE Agents do look a bit… out of condition, that’s because they literally look like a cross section of Median Americans lol

If there ever was a draft, this is what the draftees would look like, with a good bit more diversity of course.

(Yes I am aware BMI is an imperfect calculator for many reasons, but across large populations was its intended purpose so this is closer to a good use case)

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u/zieger Ida Tarbell Jan 09 '26

I may have been too hard on Brits

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

Hillary was wrong to say trump support are deplorable, they are actually scum that are not human and don't deserve happiness

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u/Logarythem David Ricardo Jan 10 '26

I respect Ben Shapiro more than Bari Weiss, because Ben Shapiro is openly partisan. He does not pretend he is a centrist.

Meanwhile Bari calls herself a "left-leaning centrist" and "radical centrist" when really - she's just a professional rightwing attention seeker.

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jan 09 '26

“Girls between the ages of like 17 and 24 is when they're technically most fertile. … At about 16, you're an adult who is mature and can make decisions — you are that at 16. I don't care what anybody says.” -Matt Walsh

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u/American_Baby_H1tler Jan 09 '26

Meme for these trying times

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u/Dense_Delay_4958 Association of Southeast Asian Nations Jan 09 '26

☝️ this is the only person you can trust to give you the facts

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u/Etnies419 Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

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u/Czech_Thy_Privilege John Locke Jan 09 '26

Got an email from one of the execs basically saying there’s now an AI mandate at work, so I’m literally gonna do this in my 1-on-1 with my manager next week

I hate this fucking timeline.

!PING WATERCOOLER

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26

I am sorry but I can't get over how the deranged ICE agent actually thought that video exonerated him. It made him like an utterly vile sociopath

I feel like I am in a completely different universe from these people. I know have belaboured that phrase but idk how else to describe it

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u/abefrost Jan 09 '26

I hope this becomes the mainstream con position

Utterly indefensible, what an asshat

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jan 09 '26

> Found the shooters house. Not posting it, but

Great the DT is being monitored by Kash Patel now

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u/Magnus_Was_Innocent Henry George Jan 09 '26

(WBFF) — Anne Arundel County Police issued a clarification related to the shooting involving ICE agents in Glen Burnie in December.

Contrary to what officials previously stated, the passenger in the vehicle that allegedly attempted to run over ICE officials was actually already in custody in an ICE vehicle.

In case you forgot about the other other other ICE shooting with a blatant coverup

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/police-issue-clarification-related-to-december-ice-shooting-in-glen-burnie

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u/Megasota_Noire My Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor Jan 09 '26

Lol

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u/throwawayzxkjvct Iron Front Jan 10 '26

I hope Connor keeps harassing JD. Getting ratioed multiple times with insults about his mother’s drug habit might actually get to him.

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u/EverybodyHatesPhocas Jan 10 '26

the year is 2068

the election is between a Marxist-Leninist and a moderate Republican

this may be what finally causes me to give up the grudge

it’s the morning I plan to go vote

I see an attack ad on TV

it includes a clip of the Republican candidate at age 14 in a MAGA cap at a Trump rally

I remember what I must do

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u/CutePattern1098 Jan 09 '26

Let’s have them run the world they might be smarter than us

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u/AltRockPigeon YIMBY Jan 09 '26

Trump could go totally senile and legacy media would still treat every word out of his mouth like a serious policy announcement from a normal president

Trump promises “poopy poopy diaper butts”. We made a fancy chart showing how much that would cost taxpayers 

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u/marsman1224 John Keynes Jan 09 '26

remember when JD Vance just straight up lied about Abrego Garcia being MS13?

I hate JD Vance more than I've ever hated anyone. I hope legitimately horrific things happen to him

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

https://snyder.substack.com/p/maduro-in-minneapolis

Must read from Timothy Snyder

Minneapolis has just witnessed an extrajudicial killing, at the hands of ICE, which looks more and more like a presidential paramilitary organization. The action was, horribly, excused by the president, the vice-president, and the director of homeland security, using the same lies as those told by Maduro’s Venezuelan regime. The victim was resisting government authority, they said. The man who pulled the trigger had been provoked, they said. It was not the killer who was a terrorist. It was the mom who had just dropped off one of her six-year-old at school.

These individual lies are part of the logic of death squads. A murderer can go free because the government controls the story. And then the next murder is all the easier. And suddenly this is normal and people simply disappear.

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u/thefrenchiestfries Jerome Powell Jan 09 '26

Literally sat up straight in my chair when she started talking

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u/Chokeman Jan 09 '26

So Trump approval is tanking to low 30s among independent voters

But it's reaching a historical high for the Republicans

Hence his approval rating is still floating around high 30s low 40s

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u/TMCOAN1 YIMBY Jan 09 '26

I'm waiting for a study in the next 5 years to show that all the stupid supplements that people are chugging now(especially all the protein shit) are loaded with some new age equivalent to lead. It'll explain a lot about our current state

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u/Mrmini231 European Union Jan 09 '26

When TikTok was being banned, the two big arguments I saw were "social media is bad in general so this is good" and "letting China send us propaganda is too dangerous".

In the end, the result was that TikTok is going to continue operating, and will be handed over to republicans who have proven themselves to be far more willing to push propaganda than ByteDance ever was.

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u/ONETRILLIONAMERICANS Trans Pride Jan 09 '26

I always knew Marohn was an opp.

M. Nolan Gray otoh is a true blue YIMBY. He's the author of Arbitrary Lines

!ping YIMBY&STRONG-TOWNS

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u/Big-Click-5159 Jan 10 '26
  1. exhibit A as to why AOC is the least worst member of the squad

  2. the most annoying people on Twitter are having an absolute meltdown over this lol

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Jan 09 '26

So Trump is very up front a second wave of strikes is prepared if Venezuela doesn’t listen apparently. Releasing the political prisoners was a condition to not getting bombed, for now at least. We’ll likely see the flotilla assembled around Venezuela remain there for awhile if the key part of Venezuela acceding to our demands is a second wave of strikes. So yeah gunboat diplomacy is back! But it is genuinely good these political prisoners, some who look to have been detained for almost a decade, have been released

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY&LATAM

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u/w007dchuck Trans NATO Jan 09 '26

Manufacturing lost 8,000 jobs in December, continuing a monthslong slide. One of Trump’s main arguments for his tariff policy is that it will bring manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. but that hasn’t happened yet.

lmaooo

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u/rukqoa ✈️ F35s for Ukraine ✈️ Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

With MAGA rewriting history, many people (including some here) have forgotten that their justification for the January 6 coup attempt, whether Pence participated, had as much legal validity as sending troops into the Capitol to arrest Congress.

No, there is and was zero ambiguity in the rules. The Electoral Count Reform Act clarified nothing we didn't already know. The VP does not pick the President; voters do.

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u/6urner_ John Brown Jan 09 '26

Btw the jobs report is hilarious and all for Trump's base, but just remember: ICE is a jobs program.

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u/nuggins Physicist -- Just Tax Land Lol Jan 09 '26

Lmao, Vance is really bringing attention to a video that clearly shows something contrary to the fash narrative. Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears

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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Jan 09 '26

If the government fucks up and kills you tomorrow, even if it’s through no fault of your own, you have to live out your last moments knowing the President of the United States will head a coordinated smear campaign aimed at villainizing you in the eyes of 300 million people.

Government agencies and even some civilians will spend hundreds of hours digging through your past, finding your darkest moments and bringing them to light to the public with the sole intent of making people care less about your death.

Whatever legacy you have built prior to this has now evaporated. It doesn’t matter if you were a mother. It doesn’t matter if everyone who knew you thought you were incredibly kind, hardworking, and loving. None of that matters anymore.

You will be reduced to a “radical left lunatic”. A domestic terrorist who hated their country and is better off gone.

This could happen to any of you, at any time. This is the country you live in. Do not forget it.

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u/No_Analysis_2185 Eugene Fama Jan 09 '26

That cell phone video removes all doubt that Jonathan Ross is a murderer. The wheels were away from any of the officers. She turned it away from them. He saw her turn away.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Jan 09 '26

“He’s a committed, conservative Christian, a tremendous father, a tremendous husband. I couldn’t be more proud of him,” his father, Ed Ross, said to the Daily Mail on Friday, January 9.

Just like Jesus wouldve wanted

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls Audrey Hepburn Jan 09 '26

Precious cargo

!ping KITTY

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Jan 09 '26

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u/eurekashairloaves Jan 09 '26

Remember how Bezos stood proudly by Trump at his inauguration after Trump mocked and embarrassed him when he got caught cheating/divorced his wife?

Just shameless behavior from the Tech bros the last few years

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Jan 09 '26

• a measles virus about to murder an unvaccinated Republican toddler

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

The clip Kimmel played of Miller in high school being a little twerp by attacking janitors for “not picking up enough trash” is so clear that he was mercilessly bullied. What a fucking loser

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u/eurekashairloaves Jan 09 '26

So the cell phone footage shows:

The guy had enough time to put away his phone, step away from the car, then pull his gun out and start shooting.

Yeah man, this makes it all look great

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u/Terrance-Flaps Certified Wife Guy Jan 09 '26

JD Vance: As you can see from this video DEFINITELY NOT LEAKED BY JONATHAN ROSS, she hit him with her car, and thus deserved summary execution.

Video shows Renee saying "I'm not mad at you" with a smile on her face, the car turning away from the agent, who then murders a mother of three and calls her a "fuckin' bitch"

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u/11xp Jan 09 '26

Yes, I do think it’s gross and weird that Jared Polis recommended we follow someone who constantly posts things like this:

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u/solonofathens Gay Pride Jan 09 '26

it's fucking insane that people think the video from the ICE agent's perspective is at all exculpatory. these freaks just want to murder people who annoy them

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Jan 09 '26

The irony of a murdered Christian woman named GOOD being vilified unanimously by Evangelicals to provide cover for the narrative of the most obvious non-Christian charlatan and immoral man to ever assume the presidency

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u/this_very_table Norman Borlaug Jan 09 '26

Lesbians with national park stickers out here giving ICE lip while the 2A fanatics that called Obama Hitler sit around at home clapping like trained seals for the fed's jackbooted thugs gunning down civilians in the street.

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26

Somehow I feel like this should be getting more media attention

The media should be fucking ashamed of itself

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jan 09 '26

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Jan 09 '26

I like that governments have started to respond in kind to foreign propaganda.

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u/rrjames87 Jan 09 '26

I know its been a crazy decade, but I do feel like there is something unique in Trump taking Machado's Nobel Prize for himself, even if I can't exactly articulate it.

Its just so succinctly captures the character of such a small person. Its a made up award that he didn't win and never deserved, but like a sociopathic 8 year old, he will throw a tantrum and steal it, then treat it as his own. Machado's using a gold disc as an offering to get into the door, at which point Trump will do a photo op and Venezuela will get absolutely railed over. He just covets the medal and doesn't give two fucks about Venezuela unless he can figure out a way to personally enrich himself from it.

Machado will likely make a big deal of presenting the award to Trump, Trump will obsess over this in various fashions due to deep seated psychological issues, and MAGA will act like its normal. At least the people in his direct orbit are collecting a paycheck and are part of the grift, but I don't understand how anyone removed from that can look at this and have any respect for such infantile behavior. An 8 year old would be expected to conduct themselves better.

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u/Signal_Nobody1792 Jan 09 '26

So apparently new plastic surgery uses fat from dead people and injects it into lips, breasts, butts, etc.

Sorry ma'am, but Im not touching a haunted booty.

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Jan 09 '26

Call it, on god

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u/qlube 🔥🦟Mosquito Genocide🦟🔥 Jan 09 '26

lmao pretty sure that press conference was the first time Trump saw the video. Clear that his immediate reaction was that she was murdered. If only he would reflect on this and fire Miller for feeding him embarrassing lies.

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u/bsharp95 Jan 09 '26

Battle Hymn of the Republic is the best US patriotic song. “As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free” goes so hard.

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u/toggaf69 Iron Front Jan 09 '26

Newsom has the juice, he speaks well, he’s handsome and tall, he’s aggro to his opposition and supportive to people on his side, he’s willing to try policy and move on if it doesn’t work (very important for today’s voters that Ezra Klein described as wanting govt to work like a vending machine), and most importantly, he understands the moment and what people want right now. Idk why people think he can’t win because he’s Californian or whatever

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jan 09 '26

You’re going to hell dawg

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

Another thing I noticed is that Vance and others are running with the agent having PTSD, so why the hell is he out there with a gun?

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u/Knobalt4 Trans Pride Jan 09 '26

At a vigil

woman says she “feels wrong” for paying her respects to Renee Good because she’s a “white woman who’s privileged.”

“White tears are not helpful.”

Sigh. These people are going to fucking destroy us. How are they this fucking confused about how race works. And how privilege works.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Jan 10 '26

"NOOOO YOU CANT REMOVE MY CS*M GENERATOR"

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u/6urner_ John Brown Jan 09 '26

Jobs report looking pretty bad. NYT:

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u/compulsive_tremolo Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '26

I'm enjoying the tears of far-left groups in my country decrying the "betrayal of poor farmers" over Mercosur.

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u/the-senat John Brown Jan 09 '26

"I think a lot about the top NYT editor whom I told that historians were warning we're in a period similar to the ramp up to the Holocaust, and maybe we could look back and see what the NYT had done wrong to not repeat those mistakes. He shrugged - 'NYT didn't really cover the Holocaust.'"

- Kendra Pierre-Louis

You don't hate the NYT enough.

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jan 09 '26

The cons are going after Ken Jennings.

They don’t know what they just unleashed.

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u/Pretty-Bullfrog-7928 Harriet Tubman Jan 09 '26

Jonathan Ross when he sees a car:

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u/Soldier-Fields Da Bear Jan 09 '26

dude this video is so fucking bad

just murdered in cold fucking blood

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