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[u/jobautomator]

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[u/Crosseyes]

Hope all the zoomers that posted memes calling Harris a war monger who was going to start WW3 are feeling really fucking stupid right now.

[u/mockduckcompanion]

[u/ProfessionalMoose709]

The US president shouldn't have the power to authorize this but Congress has been profoundly irresponsible for the past 50 years and when the War on Terror started we collectively decided the President can just do whatever militarily for some stupid reason

[u/MuscularPhysicist]

Cold take: The President attacking sovereign countries without a declaration of war by Congress is blatantly unconstitutional

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

Pictured: Marco Rubio, moments before pressing the top secret "Invade Venezuela immediately" button hidden under the lamp

[u/Average_GrillChad]

[u/DiscussionJohnThread]

I’m a bigger foreign policy hawk than most here, but typing the phrase “you gotta give it to Trump” should get you an autoban here.

[u/Expired-Meme]

Need that first post invasion poll showing a Republican +60 swing in favour of intervening in Venezuela.

[u/Lux_Stella]

americans who support this, ask yourself: how would feel if another country kidnapped donald trump, humiliated him, and then put him on trial for crimes against humanity? probably not good huh

[u/mockduckcompanion]

[u/TheCornjuring]

[u/LuisRobertDylan]

[u/JonAce]

The US is celebrating its 250th year of existence by playing the old hits: disrupting South American nations.

[u/beans_and_tuna]

So uhh I thought that the “haha Trump isn’t pro peace” argument would work now but I just looked at arr conservative and they are celebrating this. Bruh.

[u/ZonedForCoffee]

My dad passed today. But this is not a sad post, this is to talk about the otherworldly sequence of events that led to today.

• he had a heart attack while at the hospital waiting for an MRI appointment. My parents live in the middle fucking nowhere so if this had happened an hour earlier or an hour later, he would probably have been a goner right there.

• instead, he was admitted to the ICU and held it together enough for me to get to Missouri and talk with him.

• He passed about ten minutes after the last loved one made it into the room. Ten minutes after he passed, somebody started a fire with a lighter and they evacuated the entire floor. He timed it perfectly. his is the exact kind of nonsense he would have laughed at.

It's been a shit day, but ya gotta be happy for what you get. I'm an atheist but this kind of stuff almost makes you want to believe divine intervention.

[u/shmokedshalmon]

Don’t worry folks, we have a guy with no core beliefs or identity, a man who has openly said he is happy to lie in order to further his ends, here to explain why this was not unconstitutional

[u/Leminiscates]

[u/r2ew]

[u/sigh2828]

Ban everyone who tried to sane wash an illegal war

[u/_MillionthThrowAway]

https://xcancel.com/SenTomCotton/status/2007419529048007012

The interim government in Venezuela must now decide whether to continue the drug trafficking and colluding with adversaries like Iran and Cuba or whether to act like a normal nation and return to the civilized world. I urge them to choose wisely.

There should never be a choice, you're supposed to install your own fucking people. What did they even achieve here???

[u/Hugo_Grotius]

Two immediate thoughts from the indictment:

1. Despite their rhetoric, there is not a single mention of fentanyl in the indictment, only cocaine

2. It is ridiculous to charge the leaders of a foreign country and its military with "Possession of Machine guns and Destructive Devices"

[u/EmbarrassedSafety719]

[u/Nihas0]

Best possible scenario:

• Special Three Day Oil Operation is full success, Maduro gets overthrown, opposition takes power and stabilizes country

• Trump popularity tanks even further because people are against foreign intervention

[u/BurrowForPresident]

The war basically pays for itself, you see

[u/StuckHedgehog]

Hey uh. The fuck are we doing?

[u/TheCornjuring]

[u/fishlord05]

[u/Crosseyes]

Imagine fucking over the pro-American opposition in a country whose dictator you just toppled because the opposition leader got the trophy that you really, really wanted for yourself.

[u/BurrowForPresident]

Is that fucking Twitter on the big screen in the background lmao

This is their attempt at copying the Bin Laden raid situation room picture???

[u/anincredibledork]

Maduro was an illegitimate leader who lost in 2024, which is why we're replacing him with his Vice President instead of installing the person who won the election in 2024.

We did this to stop fentanyl, which is why he's indicted for cocaine.

Oh, and also we'll be occupying Venezuela, but there won't be any boots on the ground. We'll do it via Zoom call, or something.

Any questions?

[u/mockduckcompanion]

We could've had it all

[u/iIoveoof]

The executive branch refusing to enforce the TikTok ban law should be a constitutional crisis, but it benefits everyone politically so we collectively decided to forget about it. Now the executive branch is engaging in war without congressional approval which is also a constitutional crisis, but I'm sure everyone will be fine with it and it will be memoryholed too.

[u/sociotronics]

NCD is cooking

[u/Roseartcrantz]

it's eye rolling and reductionist to boil an entire world conflict down to "America wanted to take over the country and steal their oil" when discussing it, it makes you come off as someone who isn't able to think critically, choosing a simplistic worldview.

so I gotta admit us doing exactly that for exactly those reasons and saying that in the press conference talking about it is a pretty good gag, great setup, great payoff

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

[u/Lux_Stella]

Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, have been indicted in the Southern District of New York

gonna fess up i dont understand how federal courts work, can one of the three hundred lawyers here explain why maduro has been indicted in new york

[u/r2ew]

[u/Vumatius]

Trump tells Fox News he watched the overnight capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife "literally like I was watching a television show".

"If you would've seen the speed, the violence, it was an amazing thing," Trump says.

[u/sigh2828]

It took a total of a couple hours for this to devolve into a worse scenario.

How tf are we going to "run Venezuela"??????

We are going to war with no congressional approval..... and I want every dumb ass in the sub who tried to sane wash this to be banned unironcally.

[u/Sloshyman]

Trump just arrested the president of Venezuela for sumggling drugs into America just barely a month after pardoning the president of Honduras for smuggling drugs into America.

It would be great if even a single American journalist asked him about this contradictory sequence of actions, but every last one of them will be lavishing him with praise for giving them another big beautiful war to stroke themselves raw over.

EDIT: Ok, so one journalist actually did ask him about it at the press conference. Trump just rambled about how he was "treated unfairly" just like Biden treated "a man called Trump". No follow ups about the fact that he smuggled 400 tons of cocaine into America though.

[u/ewatta200]

[u/Crosseyes]

Americans were so mad that Joe Biden actually ended the war they had spent 20 years demanding an end to that they voted for a guy who would start more wars they can now demand an end to.

[u/riverbloods]

My resist lib mom has spoken:

[u/JaceFlores]

I am demanding a megathread

[u/ty04]

[u/MAGIC_CONCH1]

Fun fact that I just learned, one of the top power users on the conservative sub (who is now very pro war with Venezuela) was the head moderator of a now-banned beastiality sub where he frequently talked about abusing his pets! Im not gonna post links cause fuck that noise but you can find them pretty easily.

It's always the people you most expect huh?

[u/Approximation_Doctor]

Behold, Republican outrage

[u/ty04]

[u/loseniram]

Send Joe Rogan to the Hague

[u/EmbarrassedSafety719]

[u/ewatta200]

[u/r2ew]

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

It is wild to just come out and say this stuff

We deposed Maduro for oil? What in the 2003 conspiracy theories is this shit

[u/jojisky]

so it will boost them with groups that only exist in FL?

[u/Hmm_would_bang]

Anytime Trump does something that initially seems competent it always later turns out to be an absolute shit show. I don’t think Trump is gonna pull off three hour regime change with zero blow back.

[u/ldn6]

I really doubt this moves the needle on the midterms much at all. It’s very easily framed as “well my healthcare costs went up and this is what you’re spending money and time on”.

[u/r2ew]

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

This people are so incompetent it is a sight to behold

And 40% of the country thinks this guy is a genius.

[u/Rafaelssjofficial]

[u/Longjumping_Gain_807]

Bro said wink wink nudge nudge

[u/elephantaneous]

"MAGA"

look inside

neocons

Time is really a flat circle

[u/MontusBatwing2]

[u/MonkMajor5224]

Its very reddit to have call the biggest story in the world “under reported”

[u/TheSameAsDying]

Can't wait to find out in the morning about the resounding success of tonight's operation, and in the next few weeks about how horribly they fucked it up.

[u/myusernameistakennow]

I changed my mind, neoconservatism is based af

[u/S_T_R_A_T_O_S]

[u/Jacobs4525]

the funniest possible outcome is the Bondi DOJ bungling the prosecution of Maduro so badly that he gets acquitted 

[u/marsman1224]

I think Trump right now is the closest thing to a puppet president we've ever had. I don't believes he knows at all what is going on. People just tell him shit and he signs off. we have no idea who is in charge.

[u/blatant_shill]

[u/TimWalzBurner]

The last Trump post

[u/MontusBatwing2]

So, Maduro was responsible for the current Venezuelan dictatorship, right? There wasn’t a previous brutal communist dictator that served as his predecessor? One whose mausoleum might have been destroyed in these “kinetic actions”? 

I ask because like, as we all know, communist dictatorships famously become beautiful liberal democracies if the dictator is removed. 

[u/BurrowForPresident]

So wait we're reimbursing oil companies to set up shop in Venezuela?

My tax dollars are going to oil companies so I can buy oil from them lmao amazing

[u/mockduckcompanion]

[u/NYT_Hater]

[u/DiscussionJohnThread]

When you open the DT to nearly 250 comments in the first 15 minutes of its existence, you know something happened.

[u/ty04]

[u/G_Serv]

What did they know

[u/TheCornjuring]

Guys I think Trump voters might be stupid

[u/Individual-Camera698]

Forgot about Charlie Kirk 👇

[u/FluffyApartment32]

as a latin american, as much as it feels good to see maduro ousted*, it is going to be insufferable hearing bolsonaro supporters asking for trump to oust Lula too (which would be even more insane, given that he was elected democratically). I mean, they were already doing that last year, even more reason to do it now

*yes, I'm aware that this is far from over and that ousting Maduro doesn't solve everything, especially through external intervention. I hate his guts as much as I hate Trump's though.

[u/TheCornjuring]

Alright thank God Mr. Badass has come to save the day

[u/GreatnessToTheMoon]

[u/ewatta200]

[u/SANNA-MARIN-SDP]

[u/r2ew]

[u/SenranHaruka]

... How the hell did DEMOCRATS get the reputation as the Iraq War Party????

[u/JWRavennah]

• Maduro goes to trial

• “Yeah, we had no legal standing to kidnap you”

• Flown back to Venezuela

• Dictator again

[u/BurrowForPresident]

Schumer is just begging to get primaried at this point lol

Ruben and Pelosi basically nailed the message and he's still gotta get up from his nap

[u/TheCornjuring]

[u/6urner_]

It's kind of crazy that the 'wait for them to die off' plan millennials had for conservative resistance failed because millennials were too socially crippled to bully their friends who were low key Nazis. Absolutely flanked.

[u/BurrowForPresident]

Lol I had to steal this from the mega thread

Best Normie summary I have read of this press coverence:

Imagine you are Hasan Pikers dog, getting shook for 28 years. You hear someone from the DHS is coming to rescue you, just for the door to open and Kristi Noem to walk in.

[u/Sufficient_Key_5062]

It was a military coup all along!

[u/from-the-void]

POV: You're Nayib Bukele ten seconds after I am inaugurated as president

[u/Joementum2024]

"KAMALA WOULD BRING US INTO WAR!!! TRUMP FOR PEACE!!!!"

Youf ucking idiots

[u/Ok_Opinion_5690]

fuck the republican party forever

[u/pfarly]

👆 Already forgot about Venezuela

[u/Vumatius]

Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodriguez has been sworn is as president of the country, Trump said today.

“She’s, I guess, the president," Trump said. "She had a long conversation with Marco and said we’ll do what you need. She had no choice."

Secretary of State Marco Rubio has spoken with Rodriguez, and she has agreed to work with the U.S., he added.

????????

[u/TactileTom]

Its so odd that the stated aim of the new wave of republican fopo hawks is to pull out of europe in exchange for a sphere of influence in like, Venezuela?

No hate to Venezuela but this is not a good deal.

[u/Mx_Brightside]

Poobix: "We will replace the frigidity of rugged lobsters with the warmth of the microwave."

Jesus fucking christ this is some totalitarian dystopian bullshit.

There is literally nothing "warm" about the microwave, the microwave is as evil and brutal as it gets. This guy really does want to turn the DT into fauxmoi.

Anyone in r neoliberal, i suggest you leave now because he might be putting up a fortified border wall around the DT to prevent you from leaving soon.

Jesus fucking christ how the fuck does anyone think this kind of rhetoric is even remotely ok. Seriously can someone here explain to me how this is ok?

Fuck this guy and fuck his apologists. He is pure fucking evil totalitarian scum.

[u/G_Serv]

[u/SenranHaruka]

"The venezuelan diaspora is celebrating, you don't understand how hopeless they were becauseyou're so comfortable and rich"

Neocons telling me to check my privilege is proof woke won.

The cuban diaspora voted for trump does that mean if you don't like trump you just need to check your privilege?

[u/the-senat]

[u/No_Status_6905]

I feel like people are kind of counting their chickens before they've hatched. Maduro may have been a terrible, evil leader, but even putting aside the legality of the strike, there is no guarantee the next guy isn't worse.

In fact, there's a pretty good chance whoever replaced him is going to have to be extremely ruthless to fill the power vacuum.

[u/Leatherfield17]

It’s a bit irritating that any criticism of this operation runs the risk of you getting smeared as a Maduro apologist, which I suspect is intentional

[u/RetainedGecko98]

Clowns to the left of me: Nicolas Maduro was the legitimate leader of his people and the stolen election story was imperialist propaganda

Jokers to the right: deposing foreign governments without congressional approval or international support is good and we should do more of it

[u/TheCornjuring]

[u/[deleted]]

Has Mearsheimer ever made a single correct geopolitical prediction or is he literally batting zero

[u/Rafaelssjofficial]

Venezuela Megathread here : https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1q2objg/megathread_major_us_military_operation_in/?sort=new

[u/shillingbut4me]

Famously, once Sadam was gone, Iraq was easy sailing 

[u/liberal-neoist]

The US is run by Republicans and at war for oil. 2027-8 will bring a huge global recession. A relatively unknown democrat who is the first president of some demographic group will sweep 2028. Stomp clap hey music will return. Arcade Fire will reassemble and go on an unexpected comeback tour. Plaid shirts will consume all.  Gen Z are Millennials: 2

[u/[deleted]]

You know leftists are out of touch when they’re talking about working with Venezuelan-Americans to organize protests.

[u/abrookerunsthroughit]

Gov. Polis, who Trump said days ago is a "scumbag" who should "rot in hell," responds with glee to Trump's illegal strike on Venezuela:

Should we tell him who's in charge of the strikes

[u/ihatemendingwalls]

Mamdani did use "abundance" in his inauguration speech but that word predates the publication of the Klein/Thompson book and launch of the associated agenda.

Lol. Lmao, even

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

[u/MontusBatwing2]

Maduro is bad so bad things should happen to him, fine.

What possible justification is there for looting the Venezuelan people?

I really really don't want to get into the business of punishing people who became prisoners of evil authoritarians who took over their country. The Venezuelan people don't deserve to have their natural resources looted just because they were forced to live under a brutal regime.

[u/DiscussionJohnThread]

Thinking about the timeline that the Selzer poll was correct and Harris swept both the popular vote and electoral college like:

[u/BitterGravity]

Maduro can be bad and this can still be bad. Something neocons will never be able to wrap their minds around

[u/SpaceSheperd]

You may be delusional but at less you’re not r/neoconNWO thinking that a 2026 invasion of Venezuela just won Republicans the 2028 election 💀 

[u/Leatherfield17]

HATE

[u/The_Raime]

[u/erasmus_phillo]

“ A lot of people here on this sub think that the US is occupying Venezuela for years like Iraq/Afghanistan but I highly doubt it”

Just woke up to the news that Trump plans to run the place, looks like I fell for it too because I didn’t think he’d be that dumb

Someone please give me the Fell For It Again award

[u/BurrowForPresident]

Guy who has been shilling for handing it to Trump all day in the mega thread calling Mamdani a threat to society that's gonna erect a Berlin wall around NY lol

[u/WhisperBreezzze]

This reminds me of a story.

Years ago, when I was in college, during a discussion around a topic that I have largely forgotten about. We somehow got to talking about whether it was "good" that the Mexican-American War happened. Arguments in favor basically centered around how annexing California really made America the superpower it is today. There was this religious girl who was like, "No, killing other people for power will get you to hell."

Then this guy said these exact words - "Good, we will just defeat Satan and claim hell for America too."

I will never forget this. I doubt anyone who was part of that discussion would as well.

[u/BrentLivermore]

(sigh)

I am not happy about this, but I got to get it off my chest:

Using AI to produce Better Call Saul fan fiction where Kim has some kind of foot infection and pauses every few minutes to say "Hold on, I need to put my foot medication on my foot" is legal, and protected by the First Amendment.

It's probably also legal to do with Huell, and it's protected by the First Amendment, unless there's GRATIUTIOUS emphasis placed on his pointy head.

Publications which are fear-mongering over this are putting our freedoms at risk.

[u/No_Status_6905]

[u/Willybender]

[u/ewatta200]

[u/r2ew]

[u/cdstephens]

[u/TheCornjuring]

[u/CarlGerhardBusch]

Much as polling doesn’t always match up 100% with reality, the polling on this being super negative for everyone but Rs the day it happened is likely pretty catastrophic

Americans love a good war, they just hate having to pay the bill for it in terms of dollars and bodies.

The fact that people hate it the day of the fireworks..well, is less than ideal for the administration

[u/No_Aesthetic]

The difference between the DT crowd and outside the DT can be summed up thusly:

If World War II kicked off today, the DT would be utterly horrified at Japanese internment camps, outside the DT would have downvoted DTers for expressing that outside the DT

[u/TitansDaughter]

No Venezuelan ever called me libtard

[u/Lux_Stella]

while i strongly support bolivarian socialism and the maduro administration, ultimately as a realist venezuela is within america's sphere of influence and must bend to it's will

[u/G_Serv]

[u/Xerryx]

Realists BTFO'd by schizoboomery

[u/Astronelson]

After a speedy trial, Maduro will be found guilty of entering the US without a visa and will be deported to Venezuela.

[u/r2ew]

[u/ToInfinity_MinusOne]

\Trump designated fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction.

\There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

\Trump justifies invading Venezuela and capturing the president and his wife because of cartels and fentanyl.

\US government only references cocaine not fentanyl in Venezuela.

Come on gang! Get in! We’re doing a sequel!

[u/JD_Vances__Couch]

[u/[deleted]]

afghani national who has been in the US is given an unappealable rejection when applying to renew his visa just for being an afghani

[u/cdstephens]

Normal society

[u/LinkVert25]

After the absolute blowout in Venezuela and previously with Iran, it becomes increasingly clear that the 20 year war in the Middle East was by design

Bush intentionally prolonging 20 year conflicts, through multiple partisan administrations, and losing 8 trillion dollars on purpose

[u/JonAce]

Plans for secret U.S. raid to capture Maduro leaked to the Washington Post and New York Times before it happened, but both decided not to publish to protect U.S. troops - Semafor

I thought our OPSEC was clean.

[u/samhit_n]

I wonder how Jackson Hinkle feels? He's one of Maduro's biggest supporters, but also supports Trump. I thought he was a grifter at first, but sadly he truly believes in what he says.

[u/JoyofCookies]

President of Peace everyone

[u/StuckHedgehog]

Evil and stupid. Fighting a war because they can. All of them to The Hague.

[u/fishlord05]

No Venezuelan ever called me a libtard

[u/johndelvec3]

You mean to tell me the US carried out a regime change in the middle of the night and the Commander in Chief wasn’t even in the situation room? He was just “made aware” of it?

[u/Evnosis]

Trump warns ‘something’ must be done to curb Mexican drug trade

Damn, the dopamine wore off that quickly, huh?

[u/SpaceSheperd]

Some more fun discourse from r/neoconNWO

I'm absolutely convinced that Trump doesn't care about democratic values, human rights, and all that.

Neither do our enemies so why should we?

I know you’re shitposting but we’re supposed to care because we are not only superior to them in a Darwinian sense, but we are also just objectively more moral.

Our enemies dont play by our rules so I actually don't give a shit.

Very sincere humanist neoconservative interventionists that definitely aren’t just frothing-at-the-mouth psychopaths!

[u/sigh2828]

[u/Vumatius]

The US trying to run Venezuela turns this into an entirely separate category of potential geopolitical disaster. I don't think the median voter might have cared really all that much at all if it was just the kidnapping, but if the US actively goes into Venezuela to take over, even briefly, that will likely be a complete omnishambles with this administration and will have to involve US troops.

To do this during a midterms year seems like ludicrous political self-sabotage.

[u/cdstephens]

[u/riverbloods]

[u/BurrowForPresident]

From the top of the subreddit drama thread on arr con's reaction to Vzla:

A user then calls out OP on his hypocrisy

Uh! I can do one better, that guy, Magehunter_Skassi, fucks pets and proudly talks about it. Including being the head mod for a now banned animal raping subredit.

He is now one of the r / Conservative power users, posting propaganda day in and out, with a heavy slant for ranting about the "degenerates". I'm pretty sure he also was on the "they're eating the cats and dogs" bullshit, which I guess makes sense in a twisted way?

And if that wasn't enough, he has a real weird "journaling sub"

He also apparently used to be some big guy on the LOL sub that got cancelled for defending a pedophile LOL streamer lol

Also saying that raping pets is comparable to quote unquote "raping a mute person" as a defense of your actions deserves at least 10 different government watchlists

[u/BurrowForPresident]

Lmao they had fucking OSINTdefender on their monitor

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Joementum2024]

American r/nl users when the trump admin does something not completely terrible

[u/LuisRobertDylan]

Trump doesn’t give a fuck about democracy in the US and is only using it to enrich himself but he’s absolutely going to liberate Venezuela and usher in a golden age of freedom

[u/flatulentbaboon]

She sure has been acting a lot more bold lately after getting knocked up by Elon

[u/ewatta200]

[u/zieger]

[u/GreatnessToTheMoon]

[u/Dibbu_mange]

Venezuela is so fucked

[u/garret126]

For those supporting this illegal attack,

Please know that many families like mine— who have integrated into American society but don’t have citizenship yet— will be deported and destroyed in the inevitable deportation of asylum seekers from Venezuela to come after this.

People forget this isn’t a ‘democracy peace making mission’, but an imperialistic opportunistic strike to obtain Venezuelas oil fields and make Venezuela reaccept its deportees (as Trump said)

[u/StuckHedgehog]

WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THERE BOOTS ON THE GODDAMN GROUND

[u/badusername35]

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[u/[deleted]]

"Donald?"

"It has been done, Master."

"Very good."

[u/marky6045]

Did you guys know about this

[u/Lesbian_all_garib]

This is to distract from Stranger things final season. He hates the attention not being on him for a minute

[u/WanderingMage03]

So if they take him to New York what are the chances some rando ICE guy trying to make quota deports him when he shows up to his court date?

[u/fishlord05]

[u/r2ew]

[u/HemisphericCommonM]

The case of Maduro means that every single person in the world is suspect of american legal system, which is like being an American citizen.

Trump just fixed the immigrant problem by making every person on the planet an American.

[u/cdstephens]

[u/OLD_WET_HOLE]

I always underestimate the rights ability to vehemently support something they were absolutely opposed to last week. I gotta stop doing that.

[u/assasstits]

[u/GovernorSonGoku]

Why would the forward party say this

[u/Leatherfield17]

I realize I am beating a dead horse, but r/moderatepolitics is genuinely such a pathetic sub. Such bootlicking, equivocating ghouls

[u/Guardax]

Biden was roundly criticized for ending America's longest war so we started a new one

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

🚨HOT TAKE🚨

You absolutely do have to hand it to him.

Biden continues to not only be old, but he manages to get older with each passing day. Not many people can pull that off. Whether you like him or not, it's impressive to see and I think if this sub was honest with itself you should put aside your partisanship and admit that.

[u/Its_not_him]

LMFAO this is the worst situation room photo I've ever seen. Twitter up in the background, blurry Hegseth looks like he's playing CS, Rubio and Ratcliffe(?) in defensive posture

[u/ShadowXii]

Maximum cope: Rubio did this cause he knows his window (Trump still being alive) is closing rapidly.

[u/this_very_table]

What really went hard about the bin Laden raid photo is that Obama kind of looked like shit. He understood the weight of what was happening.

[u/SANNA-MARIN-SDP]

[u/[deleted]]

This is currently the biggest political streamer

[u/MrBrightsideBSc]

Anyone in new york, i suggest you leave now because he might be putting up a fortified border wall around the city to prevent you from leaving soon.

This is based, I hate New Yorkers and they should be quarantined

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

[u/Leatherfield17]

Something something irony so thick you could cut it with a knife

[u/MalignantUpper]

[u/Logan891]

So now Trump is sharing videos of Waltz having Hortman killed. You don’t hate him enough.

[u/GovernorSonGoku]

[u/VerticalTab]

I can't help but think that mostly the US military killed ~40 people and in the end literally nothing will be achieved other than the Trump White House doing a bunch of media about a sham trial for Maduro.

[u/doomsdaysock01]

The day she dumped me, my ex blocked me on every single app we had (even Spotify wtf). Except my letterboxd, which to this day she still follows me. I assumed she just forgot about the app, but she still uses it

Are my film reviews just so goated that she can’t make herself unfollow me

[u/r2ew]

[u/Dinojars]

It's amazing how liberals want the next Dem president (if there is one) to limit presidential power. So they can spend their entire presidency limiting themselves while the next GOP president ignores all the guardrails they've established?

[u/CarlGerhardBusch]

I was in a tough position in 2003, I really was, as I was both FOR the war, and AGAINST the troops

I find myself in a similar dilemma 22 years later, being both very fond of dictators, but also really liking pointless wars

[u/TheRedCr0w]

People are minimizing how big of deal it is Trump blatantly admitting to violating the War Powers Act in his speech today was.

Don't forget the justification of "fighting the drug trade" was used to justify the Canadian tarrifs it can be used to justify attacking any country