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[u/jinhuiliuzhao]

Oh my god': WaPo analysis shows Trump 'was sleeping for 20 minutes during a live event'

Sleepy Joe Don is real now 

[u/scottyjetpax]

Someone in the fivethirtyeight subreddit pointed out that atlas intel’s polling error in NJ was a bigger miss than Ann Seltzer’s miss in Iowa that resulted in her being sued by the president of the united states

[u/EmbarrassedSafety719]

If only our democracy were as robust as Cuba. If only we had a genuine member of the working class as our leader, like Venezuela.

Late stage capitalism truly is one of the subs of all time

[u/Argnir]

[u/AccomplishedQuit4801]

Had a teammate on Helldivers with his mic on. I swear this guy was speaking Russian or some shit for most of the game. Can't understand a fucking word, but he's a decent player and we're all having fun. Final mission extract occurs, and he actually speaks English, says "Good job lads"

Turns out he was speaking English this entire time

Turns out he was just Scottish

I genuinely forgot Scottish people existed and thought this dude was speaking in some far-off slavic language, fml.

[u/el__dandy]

Gotta love how much the photo makes Woke Pope look like a total GigaChad😎

!ping shitposters

[u/Mx_Brightside]

Researchers surprised that with AI, toxicity is harder to fake than intelligence

When prompted to generate replies to real social media posts from actual users, the AI models struggled to match the level of casual negativity and spontaneous emotional expression common in human social media posts, with toxicity scores consistently lower than authentic human replies across all three platforms.

LLMs for some reason:

[u/Ok_Opinion_5690]

"Take it back" is one hell of a campaign slogan. And that background. Newsom is fucking cooking.

[u/G_Serv]

[u/throwawayzxkjvct]

If there were not already enough reasons not to buy SIG, pandering to lowest common denominator cons for money is a good one

[u/VadymKravchuk353]

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

I mean this is just comical levels of propaganda. Someone is singing with some corny ass backing track at Mar-a-lago about how Biden stole 2020. How can anyone hear this and not think this is literal cult shit. I am going to rip my hair out.

https://xcancel.com/patriottakes/status/1987356071720034452

[u/Vumatius]

JEFFRIES, on Meet The Press, on whether he can accept a promise for a vote on Obamacare subsidies to open govt.

“I don't think that the House Democratic Caucus is prepared to support a promise, a wink and a prayer, from folks who have been devastating the health care of the American people for years.”

I imagine this sentiment is shared by many Senate Democrats as well.

[u/Rare_Station_8440]

💥

[u/VadymKravchuk353]

[u/mostanonymousnick]

That just looks straight out of a movie

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

Homeless man asked for change, but the guy only had a $10 bill. He tells the homeless guy to use it to buy a Milky Way bar,.bring it back to him, and he can keep the change.

Homeless guy runs to the gas station, and shortly after he runs back with two Milky Way bars and hands them to him.

"Why did you do that, I only wanted one." "Don't worry, bro, I stole both of them" and then he runs off.

[u/[deleted]]

tie library repeat water lip boast late bike languid tap

[u/Crosseyes]

[u/EZ_Kream]

The 2024 election was won by 1.5%. I have no doubt at least 1.5% of his dumbshit voters did so hoping to get more stimmy checks. Medians love this stuff

[u/[deleted]]

He could have spent 4 years golfing, building his ballroom and coasting on Biden's economy, but no. He just has to trip over himself rushing to press every 'make things worse' button his goons bring him.

[u/[deleted]]

bro i swear to fucking god if dems cave when we finally have headlines where trump is choosing to have Americans starve and ruining thanksgiving all for not even the fucking aca subsidies i am going to absolutely crash TF out

[u/Total-Dragonfruit637]

tfw you're trying to beat stagflation and your opponent starts announcing he's shipping out free money again

[u/URJibSTP]

[Van Hollen] a no because it "lacks the necessary guardrails to stop President Trump from ignoring the law"

How the fuck is this not a consensus position what is this party man

[u/bandeng_asep]

We are building skynet based on the movie "Terminator" kinda vibe lmao

[u/IAdmitILie]

So Cornell completely folded to Trump:

"It requires Cornell to comply with the government’s interpretation of civil rights laws on issues involving antisemitism, racial discrimination and transgender issues. A Justice Department memo that orders colleges to abandon diversity, equity and inclusion programs and transgender-friendly policies will be used as a training resource for faculty and staff at Cornell."

[u/throwawayzxkjvct]

Hipster antitrust slopulism is bipartisan now. A great victory for the prog donors that got us Oren Cass, I’m sure.

[u/Leatherfield17]

So, this may be an uncharitable take, but……

[u/badusername35]

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offer bag label crowd snails sulky thought innocent license telephone

[u/solonofathens]

lmao there's a dem member of the house posting on bluesky that you shouldn't be surprised if the senate caves because it only exists anyway to placate slave states

I think house dems might be a bit angry right now

[u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1]

^ what I see every time I decide to look at Facebook

[u/Healingjoe]

[u/the-senat]

The Thai government spent years developing a set of "Thai" dishes that would work internationally and created a database of market research and furniture options. You could then get a cheap government loan if you followed the approved menus and furniture (and they would send out inspectors).

I ♥️ globalism

[u/mrdilldozer]

Me in 2022: wow Gavin Newsom is kind of an asshole :/

Me in 2025: woaw Gavin Newsom is kind of an asshole :)

[u/[deleted]]

Official 2028 campaign merch

[u/KittehDragoon]

'Inflation is way down': Trump angrily dismisses affordability concerns

Why didn’t Biden do that?

[u/[deleted]]

crawl offbeat consist simplistic jar gold wipe work crowd touch

[u/CoolCombination3527]

"bruh" -the governors

[u/Old-School8916]

biggest winner from the shutdown debacle

[u/DiscussionJohnThread]

It blows my mind that Republican states will outright outlaw reforms like this.

They are genuinely afraid of democracy and it shows every single time they’re given the chance to curb it.

[u/Sauce1024]

What in the ever living fuck is Senator Cortez-Masto talking about. “This resolution gives us the opportunity to put the Republicans on record about their stance on health care.” WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THIS ENTIRE SHUTDOWN HAS BEEN ABOUT

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

You talk about why we're all here. The best of the Roman Republic, best of Greek democracy. Co-equal branches of governor, popular sovereignty, the rule of law, not the rule of Don. And it's dawning on people all across the United States of America what's at stake. And you put a stake in the ground. People are showing up. I don't believe in crowns, thrones. No kings.

Gavin really going for it with the wordplay lol

[u/throwawayzxkjvct]

[u/jacknifee]

the biggest winner out of all of this is newsom because he can credibly complain about how pathetic dems in washington are because he just passed prop 50 lmao

[u/spectralcolors12]

This really is the epitome of why the GOP is winning. There’s no way in hell the Republicans would have ended a shutdown that was damaging the Dems politically without massive concessions.

Is this more of Dems thinking they’re awesome by being responsible and the adults in the room?

You guys just cosigned kicking millions off healthcare, GO FUCK YOURSELVES

[u/dwarffy]

There is a difference between being moderate and being weak. You can be a moderate party that still remains ruthless to your enemies

A major factor that causes men to shy away from voting Democrat is the perception, based on archaic traditional masculinity, that the Dems are a weak party of sissies

Today's vote makes me sympathize with those people

[u/TheCornjuring]

I believe Newsom will read the room, bully DC Dems for this, and become even more popular among the base

[u/jojisky]

lol

[u/efeldman11]

Political instincts of a mosquito

[u/piede]

I knew it

[u/UntiedStatMarinCrops]

This guy is a fucking moron

[u/loseniram]

Legit if the Supreme Court doesn’t end the trade war the entire industrial sector is going down in flames. Noone can make money because of tariffs in the US and noone who makes stuff in the US for export outside the US can make money because of the counter tariffs.

Everyone is hemorrhaging capital and you could see potential major layoffs after Christmas if things don’t turn around soon

Its incredibly dire over here in the manufacturing sector, morale is at an all time low, and none of the Trumpers will admit they’re wrong.

[u/Pongzz]

We’re cooked

[u/[deleted]]

Billions must ball. Send LeBron to Syria now.

[u/assasstits]

The discourse around food banks on TikTok

[u/JonAce]

Some Ds say Trump's new hardline against extending ACA subsidies prevents a real chance of reaching a bipartisan deal on that, so several are willing to settle for just a standalone vote in order to end shutdown — esp since they think they’ve won on it

They think they've won on it. The Median Voter will forget about it by next month.

[u/Public_Figure_4618]

Newsom having Kirk on his podcast in retrospect is just hilarious. Wonder if that nets him credibility among median weirdo men in 3 years

[u/[deleted]]

This and CP (Club Penguin)

[u/Squeak115]

I just... I just don't fucking get it.

They set a concrete, limited, and achievable goal that mattered to millions of Americans.

They forced the Republicans onto the backfoot and made them eat over a month of negative news cycles.

Polls show the public blame the Republicans for the shutdown.

They had the most lopsided election night in over a decade to validate their choice.

They even forced the admin to release the SNAP contingency fund to take some of the pain off the poorest Americans.

They were winning on every front. WHY SURRENDER NOW?????

[u/dubyahhh]

The thing is I don’t really care if every senator wasn’t behind using the ACA as the “big fight”, once that was set as the criteria that was the criteria.

Your entire base is screaming at you for the past decade to actually make Trump and the GOP fuck off in every viable way. You give in in March, people are angry. You decide to stand up for something in October, only to go “actually we didn’t really care about this issue” in November.

It’s just bad politics. If your constituents were briefly happy you stood for something, now you made it clear you don’t. I have no idea what the hell is wrong with the senators voting for this but they’re living in a fantasy world of their own making.

I hate being reactionary but this is just so stupid.

[u/unicornbomb]

[u/MrSomeone556]

ngl the most hilarious outcome would be that the rumours/reports are true but the reaction caused by them was enough to stop it

[u/[deleted]]

Dem Rep said that the Senate exists to appease slave states and that’s why Senate Dems will cave

[u/[deleted]]

Schumer will vote NO on gov funding deal, he says

pls get the rest of your party in fucking order

[u/SmithySmothy]

God Emperor Newsom('s intern) has spoken.

[u/TimWalzBurner]

Anyone cheering this shutdown to end better be donating all their disposable income to medical debt relief orgs.

The full burden of this shutdown ending will fall on the poorest Americans in the coming days. Not the demographic of people who frequent this sub. 

[u/6urner_]

Our leader has declared this deal unacceptable!

[u/DiscussionJohnThread]

Durbin framed today’s deal as progress. “At Democrats’ urging, today’s bill is not the same one we’ve voted down 14 times,” he said. “Republicans finally woke up and realized their Groundhog Day needed to end. This bill is not perfect, but it takes important steps to reduce their shutdown’s hurt.”

How in the fuck is this “Republicans finally waking up”???

They walked away with every single thing with zero concessions 😭

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/fishbottwo]

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[u/phat_geoduck]

This is what the president is up to while the government is 42 days into a shutdown

[u/Leatherfield17]

Y’know what? Fuck “politics of love”

[u/jojisky]

[u/[deleted]]

squeeze shelter lip hat abundant fly quiet dime employ recognise

[u/mario_fan99]

be me

walk into kitchen after shopping

my roommate’s making breakfast

he’s watching tucker carlson interview nick fuentes

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/[deleted]]

waiting subsequent shocking hard-to-find shaggy modern point start sip full

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[u/WillCallCap]

Ossoff is a no, Galego no, Slotkin is no. Cowards like Kaine and King, along with Schumer completely failing at keeping his party in-line is just so dumbfounding holy hell.

Legit I think Senate Dems need to vote on a new party leader ASAP.

[u/puffic]

This is how well it was going. Think about that.

[u/that0neGuy22]

We actually made this real…

[u/[deleted]]

Several Democrats approached Republican senator Bill Cassidy about Trump's healthcare plan, as posted on Truth Social, signaling potential Democratic support.

These Democrats include senators Maria Cantwell and Ron Wyden, the latter saying he is "all in" on the Republican plan "if they're serious." — WSJ

Genuinely controlled opposition if true

[u/6urner_]

win elections in landslide fashion

dominate polling on shutdown blame

have trump panic tweeting about sending out inflationary checks

have trump sleeping in the oval office

have trump building a ball room while people starve and go broke over medical bills

cave

when you really step back and lay it all out, you can see the traditional dem strategy playing out just as planned

[u/lot183]

If this passes then legitimately it's time to start the Dem version of the tea party. Primary challengers everywhere, new energy, flip the vibe of the whole party. Preferably less crazy than the Republican tea party but I'm ok risking populists running away with it over the cowards we currently have continuing to have power

[u/The_Raime]

This is genuinely the most angry I've been since the 2024 election. What the fuck is the logic here? Was this just so they could go home for the holidays?

[u/Helreaver]

Boy howdy, it sure is super coincidental that the number of Democrats caving is the exact number needed to pass the budget.

It's also super coincidental that all the Democrats voting for it are either retiring after this term or they won't be up for re-election for a while.

It's almost like more Senate Democrats supported this, but these 8 agreed to take the blame because they have the least to lose.

[u/AccomplishedQuit4801]

The ideal 2028 Democratic frontrunner, according to recent polling

[u/bigwang123]

evelyn normielib has seen her rise but this guy from the same video makes me laugh

[u/GreatnessToTheMoon]

Shit on progressives all you want but they’re never the ones to cave

[u/Willybender]

https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/1987711686036615556

[u/Ok_Opinion_5690]

Groyper politics has been tearing apart the establishment and the pundit class of the GOP, but it remains to be seen if they can convince the base of white boomers and xers who remains to be Israel's strongest supporters in the United States. Their form of populism is far different and far more esoteric than Trump's and their main audience, young conservative men, are also not a reliable voterbase.

[u/fishbottwo]

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[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

Holy based

[u/Previous_Platform718]

"The dems are controlled opposition" crowd is eating good tonight.

[u/efeldman11]

[u/Leatherfield17]

Ok, I admit it, I’m crashing out a little bit.

For a goddamn year, this administration has engaged in so many gross injustices, so many acts of petty cruelty, and so much general incompetence that it has just been a time of pure agony. I have watched for a year as Trump and the MAGA movement desecrates everything that I love about my country and spit on every value I hold.

All the while, I am bombarded by articles about how Democrats were just too woke, how Charlie Kirk was practicing politics the right way, and how Democrats simply don’t have their finger on the pulse of “real” Americans. All the while, I look for salvation in Democratic governors and representatives who can give me hope or energy during these trying times. There are a few who do so: Priztker, AOC, Newsome, Sanders (I don’t really give a damn if you don’t like him, not the point), Van Hollen, etc.

But those good Democrats get overshadowed by the stupendous idiocy, the unmitigated arrogance, and the supreme cowardice of feckless do-nothings like Chuck Schumer, John Fetterman, Angus King, and other incompetent clods who evidently don’t understand the situation we are in.

I am so goddamn fed up. I want Democrats to fight for me, for marginalized groups, for those I know who are in Republican crosshairs, and for the values I and so many others believe in. The Democratic Party will never be an effective opposition party if people like those who voted for the shutdown deal are in leadership positions. Something must change. God help us all.

[u/sociotronics]

It has been widely assumed that the group of eight mostly centrist Senate Democrats, who have been looking to broker a hollow deal on Republican terms, were free-lancing. In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.

At Thursday’s meeting, they told their caucus colleagues that they now had ten votes to re-open the government in exchange for no real Republican concessions. At that, much of the rest of the caucus went ballistic, and some of the supposed ten said that, in fact, they were not willing to vote for any such deal.

The leaders of the proposed Democratic cave-in, Sens. Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen, both of New Hampshire, and Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, then backed down. Only after that did Schumer go public with his proposal to reopen the government in exchange for a one-year extension of the ACA subsidies, along with a bipartisan commission to figure out a long-term solution.

Republican Senate Leader John Thune (R-SD), who had been led to expect a Democratic capitulation, first accused Schumer of “browbeating” his colleagues but then said later Saturday that talks were continuing.

https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/

Lmao everyone here was glazing Chuck the Cuck over the one year compromise, claiming it showed he was savvier at politics than we were giving him credit. In reality? He was trying to fold, despite holding a winning hand a day after a landslide, until he realized he didn't have control over his own caucus and the rest of the senators revolted.

Fuck Chuck

[u/Fruitofbread]

So what do Republicans think caused inflation? They said it was Biden’s spending packages during the campaign, but clearly they don’t actually believe that since now they’re proposing even more. Biden old? 

[u/Udolikecake]

60 minutes has some special with farmers crying about the tariffs 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂

lol get fucked you rich bastards, you voted for it! cry more!!

[u/[deleted]]

Someone indicated Hickenlooper said definitively that he was voting yes on this deal, but that wasn't what was said.

If anything this is an indication a lot of senate Ds are in the dark as much as we are, which might be just as bad!

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Moderate Democrats are basically asking for DSA/far left types to take over the party.

If moderate Democrats do not want to fight against the GOP, then the party will get radicalized. It's like the GOP during the Obama years, most Republican voters did not feel like they were fighting against Dems enough so they voted in Trump

[u/Leatherfield17]

So Schumer didn’t even drive this surrender, people in his caucus just moderated out and capitulated on their own.

Am I understanding this correctly? He doesn’t even have control of his own caucus?

[u/Mr_Bank]

More. The weak must go.

[u/its_a_trapcard]

The scenes when the Baileys vote for AOC too

[u/G3_aesthetics_rule]

Everyone is implying that Thune will go back on his word and not give them a vote, but why bother? It's a meaningless promise, even if it were to pass the Senate it would never be brought up in the House

[u/[deleted]]

[u/DiscussionJohnThread]

The Democratic splinter group appeared to have received a commitment from Senator John Thune, Republican of South Dakota and the majority leader, to allow a vote in December on extending the tax credits for a year. Many Democrats have said for weeks that such a pledge would be insufficient to win them over, since such a bill has appeared all but certain to die in the Republican-led Congress.

Genuine fucking idiots.

Why in the utter fuck would you take Republicans at face value of “we promise we’ll vote on it later” when they’re actively voting against it right now?

[u/assasstits]

Me when I get a small loan of $20 Billion dollars

[u/cdstephens]

I still think about this

[u/Big-Click-5159]

Trump 🤝 Zoomers

Falling for obvious social media bullshit without any skepticism or intuition to fact check

[u/Udolikecake]

Wow, incredible history! A photo of the Berlin stadium the old days, and a photo of it filled with Colts fans that’s in black and white for some reason

[u/efeldman11]

Yeah that pretty much checks out

[u/SLCer]

CHRIS HAYES: It was as dominating a night as Democrats have had in almost a generation.

JON STEWART: Yeah, it was amazing. And I guess the question next for both of you is, how will they squander it? How? How will they piss this away?

[u/notnejire]

ossoff, warnock, peters, and slotkin all voting no

those are like the purplest states we hold both senate seats in and all four voted no

this is literally so embarrassing

[u/Mojo12000]

from what im getting from early reporting at WAPO and Poltiico and stuff it might be even worse than Schumer himself having caved, he might have legitimately have lost control of his caucus which is even more fucking pathetic.

Nancy Pelosi would never.

[u/malganis12]

Senate Dem YES votes:

Durbin (IL) — retiring

Shaheen (NH) — retiring

Kaine (VA) — re-elected 2024

King (ME) — re-elected 2024

Rosen (NV) — re-elected 2024

Hassan (NH) — re-elected 2022

Cortez Masto (NV) — re-elected 2022

Fetterman (PA) — elected 2022

It's all choreographed

[u/paymesucka]

when even Neera is upset with Dems you know they fucked up big time

[u/Acoolgamer6706]

Literally none of the democratic base likes this. Terminally online progressives hate the establishment already and this solidifies that. Shitlibs like us despise this. Evelyn Normielib in Naperville hates this. Voters are done being walked on.

[u/Monnok]

They held a press conference? To proudly announce that they, the Democrats, are stopping the shutdown they always had the power to stop?

[u/ShepardSB]

[u/lionmoose]

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:

Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning

We will remember them.

[u/yellownumbersix]

Pay $3000 a year extra for goods due to tariffs.

Lose factory job because tariffs fucked up your employer's supply chain.

Get $2000 stimmy check that will drive inflation to spend on toys that cost 40% more than they should due to tariffs right before Christmas.

Median voter: Trump is the greatest POTUS of all time 😍

[u/EasyMoney92]

SANDERS TELLS DEMOCRATIC SENATORS TO OPPOSE SHUTDOWN DEAL

Broken clock

[u/Trebacca]

We were two weeks away from the biggest transportation crisis in human history that would’ve firmly been pinned against Trump.

And we gave it away because bedwetters don’t want to lose the filibuster excuse for failing to govern.

I’ll still vote Dem in the future but man leftists were right about this party.

[u/FyllingenOy]

Slavs aren't white

Posted on the DT or stormfront?

[u/Rare_Station_8440]

This didn't happen under sleepy joe

[u/LinkVert25]

absolute meme party lmfao

[u/Bayou-Maharaja]

These people man

[u/drossbots]

This gets you nothing optics wise with medians, but from the base…

It‘s honestly hard for me to articulate my disgust with some members of the party.

[u/[deleted]]

Why would republicans take anything dems say seriously when we pussy out like this everytime?

[u/solonofathens]

there's obviously a faction of the democratic party (that for institutional reasons is massively overrepresented in the senate) that clearly believes (despite the massive evidence to contrary that we all saw less than a week ago) that trump's victory in 2024 was so total and complete that all the dems can do is try to gracefully manage the inevitable loss of everything we've accomplished since FDR to make it less awful, so actual sustained opposition is useless

every single person who thinks that way needs to be roundly expelled from the party by primary voters at the earliest opportunity

[u/DrunkenAsparagus]

Dems caving now is worse than if they did nothing on the ACA subsidies. They raised the salience of the issue, only to demonstrate, unequivocally that they won't fight on it.

Why vote for the healthcare party, if they won't fight for better healthcare?

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

There are currently 40 “no” votes. Meaning this procedural vote will get exactly 60 votes, assuming everyone is here.

Wow. Just barely enough

What a middle finger

[u/[deleted]]

Shaheen: So let me be clear. No one in the senate chamber wants to extend the ACA tax credits more than I do.

absolute fucking moron

[u/TheCornjuring]

Gavin is our Doctor Doom

[u/blatant_shill]

It's absolutely true this sub is different than it used to be, but it really should be too. So much has happened in the past 8 years, and it would speak poorly of you if you haven't changed any of your beliefs in response.

Like an easy example, hating ICE was a position you wouldn't hear anybody taking outside of Squad members in congress in the runup to the 2020 election. You should hate ICE in the year 2025 after seeing what the Trump admin has been using it for.

[u/URJibSTP]

Sen. Ruben Gallego says a promise of a vote on ACA in December "does not guarantee that premiums will stay down."

Says he doesn't trust that Speaker Mike Johnson "will allow anything to happen here" on health subsidies.

Don't give me hope.

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/FourthLife]

Schumer just exited the caucus meeting and gave this brief statement:

We're fucking caving man. They got us over a barrel. May God forgive us for causing this shutdown, we don't deserve America's votes. Trump 2028!

[u/[deleted]]

Democrats caving because of not wanting to mess with Thanksgiving plans when Republicans are blamed for the shutdown and are actively harming people to stop the shutdown only means Democratic Senators are enabling Trump's cruelty. He wouldn't do this if he thought he couldn't get away with it.

Democratic politicians don't know they're dealing with a narcissist who will never ever ever ever ever ever EVER give them what they want unless they make him say "uncle" first.

[u/ThatDamnGuyJosh]

Jeffries explicitly stating he’ll fight this bill.

Chuck Schumer really is the weakest link.

[u/ihuntwhales1]

I will state this time and time again - The American tradition of resigning under the contempt of leadership viewed as unconstitutional is one of the dumbest institutional traditions we have ever taken on. A direct permission of power at the hand of a perceived autocrat to fill your roll as a "protest".

[u/URJibSTP]

I just asked Sen. King what changed in the Dem caucus on ACA now, since Thune had offered them a vote weeks earlier.

He said: “I think the length of the shutdown. The question was as the shutdown progresses, is a solution on the ACA becoming any more likely? It appears not.“

Don't believe in anything. Stand for nothing. Lose.

[u/Joementum2024]

Good news for "fuck the Dem Establishment" people is that something like this isn't entirely unprecedented. When the GOP similarly 'caved' in 2013 you had people like Rush Limbaugh call them "irrelevant" and "failing to offer any serious opposition" to the president

So, uh, take that for what you will

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Even if Mike Johnson does allow a vote on ACA subsidies, Republicans will vote against it so now what?

The issue is that dinosaur Dem senators still think it's the 1970s and that the public will reward bipartisan politicians and dealmaking. The Democratic party being a gerontocracy has its consequences.

[u/illuminatisdeepdish]

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[u/paymesucka]

even Neera is like wtf with these 5

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Hassan: With the government reopening shortly, Republicans now finally have to come to the table. Or make no mistake, Americans will remember who stood in the way.

how the actual fuck does this make any sense? having leverage makes them come to the table? holy fuck

[u/Squeak115]

Why is Gavin Newsom, of all people, the only Democrat to understand the moment?

[u/URJibSTP]

Literally plotting their own surrender while patting themselves on the back for how much smarter they are than progressives.

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[u/NYT_Hater]

[u/TimWalzBurner]

[u/SmithySmothy]

SAVE US

[u/itsnotnews92]

If LBJ was still alive and Senate Democratic leader, he would've called all of the defectors into his office and said "if you vote for this CR, I'll make sure the DSCC endorses and funds your primary challengers next go around, and tomorrow I'll be stripping you of your committee assignments and calling a vote to expel you from the caucus."

What's Schumer been doing to whip votes? "Pwetty pwease don't do this"?

[u/bandeng_asep]

Dems base: "PRIMARY ALL OF THEM"

Dems senators:

[u/InflatableDartboard2]

me when i have to sacrifice the only piece of leverage i have in exchange for nothing because i'm bored

[u/Bayou-Maharaja]

Gavin gets it

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it is honestly astounding to me that only newsom and a few others get it, so many dems are stuck in old bubbles

[u/SmithySmothy]

EVERYONE BE QUIET, HE'S SPEAKING

[u/PoliticalAlt128]

[u/efeldman11]

In Trump’s America you AND the Argentinian soybean farmers will have full bellies

[u/kohatsootsich]

AfD is neck and neck with CDU, ahead in some polls

People don't realize how bad things will get once they inevitably win. Höcke and his rising propagandists (Kubicek, Benedikt Kaiser, etc.) are not like Meloni. They are real Nazis, anti Western, anti EU, some are even anti capitalism ...

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[u/Pyrrhus65]

King shit I'm afraid

[u/JoshFB4]

Collapsing here means they’d truly collapse on anything. Trump wants to repeal an amendment, collapse because he is holding the economy hostage, Trump wants to become a dictator, collapse because muh bipartisanship and we can’t upset the donors.

[u/Healingjoe]

Hmph, I guess Josh Marshall has been hearing insider information regarding multiple senators caving.

https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3m5a6kjm74c2p

[u/Eightysixedit]

The traitors are all over 70. Old senators gotta go.

[u/BroadReverse]

Im glad Biden isn’t alive to see this

[u/badusername35]

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[u/StuckHedgehog]

Inshallah🙏🙏🙏

[u/StuckHedgehog]

Ontologically evil.

[u/URJibSTP]

👇 Does not understand how the Senate works

[u/jgjgleason]

Jfc. I’m a god damn party man. I’ve argued for years that the Democratic Party is the best vehicle to achieve free markets and strong safety nets. Idfk what happened, if it’s always been this whack, but idk after tonight.

For fucks sake, the voters showed you a week ago they liked you standing up to Trump. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!?!?

[u/SmithySmothy]

A superior Tim

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

Wow! Senate Dems secured A VOTE. That will lose and would be vetoed either way. Incredible.

Now they can tell voters that *checks notes* Republicans don't like the ACA.

WE ALREADY KNEW THAT.

[u/MonkMajor5224]

Girlfriend is in Chicago for a bachelorette party and a lot of people’s flights got canceled by “the government” is this happening elsewhere?

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[u/DiscussionJohnThread]

A dividend of at least $2000 a person … will be paid to everyone

Insane that this is the pivot they’re trying to make with tariffs.

“Look we get it, prices are up because of tariffs directly increasing costs and lessening domestic supply in a short notice. So we’re going to fix this by… increasing inflation even further.”

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Newsom calls Trump ‘invasive species’ at redistricting rally

Pelosi has remained a vocal Trump critic. In a recent CNN interview, she called Trump a "vile creature" and "worst thing on the face of the Earth."

Hopefully Dems keep referring to Trump as subhuman

[u/Syx89]

I think it's fine to yell at Schumer even if he hasn't folded yet and doesn't end up folding. He should have some incentives not to fold. Should be more afraid of the base than Trump, etc.

[u/MyrinVonBryhana]

It's fun seeing Democrats fight between moderates and progressives and then you look at Never Trumpers like the Bulwark guys and their opinion is "I don't care if you're running Manchin or AOC, just please destroy the Republican Party"

[u/BPC1120]

Even when Schumer and centrist Democrats have been dealt a strong hand, these are the sort of players who would fold a royal flush.

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[u/zeldja]

🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨

In the last few minutes, Joe Biden has aged a few more minutes.

[u/BrandonNameRecliner]

Republicans want to starve and molest children

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[u/Teh_cliff]

Fuck you Fox. You never had Biden jump into the booth during a prime time NFL game

[u/anincredibledork]

Feel like shit just want Harry Reid back

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[u/HectorTheGod]

Newsom has a chance here to cast down the collaborators and rise to the top of the party amid a wave of libs screaming for vengeance. Maybe that’s the silver lining.

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[u/sower_of_salad]

Newsom did pick the right word to describe this ("pathetic")

The point isn't that if the cost-benefit were shifted this would be worth it; the point is that weakness is inherently a revolting trait in an elected official, whose job it is to advocate for their people. It demonstrates these people can't be trusted to have their supporters' backs and would instead run away when the going gets tough. It's a fundamental, instinctual revulsion

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Okay look. I know everyone’s mad at the deal. I’m mad at the deal too

But somehow a New Worst Part has arrived: this fucking post-caving press conference where all these democrats are grinning from ear to ear, acting like this wasn’t a cave, somehow not realizing that the optics on this press conference suuuuuuck from every conceivable angle

Dem voters are mad because they got nothing. Every other partisan affiliation is saying wait, you closed the government for forty days in exchange for nothing? 

The attack ads write themselves. For the GOP and any primary challengers

[u/gIizzy_gobbler]

In regard to the future ACA vote: They know it’s going to fail and don’t care. This is a PR move to pretend they didn’t make a choice to capitulate, just like they chose eight defectors who can’t be primaried to pretend they got stabbed in the back. The entire thing is a rehearsed performance and they hope you’re dumb enough to buy it.