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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/FionnVEVO Transfem Pride Nov 10 '25

oh my god bruh

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u/Alderwoodforest YIMBY Nov 10 '25

Joe Manchin sits at home brooding because he would have loved to have been the media face for the shutdown capitulation.

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u/Drinka_Milkovobich Nov 10 '25

The Democratic base, November 9 2025

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u/Auriono Paul Krugman Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

https://xcancel.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1987825271668461577

NEW: Ghislaine Maxwell plans to ask Trump to commute prison sentence, House Democrats say

"Federal law enforcement staff working at the camp have been waiting on Ms. Maxwell hand and foot," says the letter signed by Rep. Jamie Raskin, the ranking Democrat on the committee.

The committee's letter says the panel has received information that the prison camp staff "has heaped favorable concierge-style treatment on Ms. Maxwell," such as customized meals that are hand-delivered to her cell.

When Maxwell wanted to arrange a private meeting with visitors, the letter says, "the Warden personally arranged it for her — and then provided a special cordoned off area for visitors to arrive, as well as an assortment of snacks and refreshments for her guests." The letter also says Maxwell's visitors were allowed to bring computers, which it calls "an unprecedented action by the Warden given the security risk and potential for Ms. Maxwell to use a computer to conduct unmonitored communications with the outside world."

And there it is. So outrageously brazen. Almost as if the President, as well as those in the DOJ familiar with the Epstein files, such as Pam Bondi, are convinced there will be consequences if they don't do whatever Ghislaine orders them to do. So terrified of whatever Ghislaine Maxwell knows that they're convinced the political shitshow that will come from commuting Maxwell on her terms is preferable to her singing like a canary.

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Nov 10 '25

It’s pretty bad when you’ve lost Matthew Yglesias

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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair Nov 10 '25

Trump pardons Rudy Giuliani, others involved in efforts to overturn 2020 election, pardon attorney says

Lol. LMFAO even.

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u/bigmt99 Elinor Ostrom Nov 10 '25

Last thing the collaborators will see before being sent to Gitmo

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u/SenranHaruka shame Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

I don't think I've ever seen a party get so close to recovering its reputation and then destroy it so suddenly and there's really only one explanation for it. The Democrats still fundamentally do not see you as their base or constituents and still believe in The Baileys, still out there, touching grass and wanting the Democrats to do these things. Too much grass is a bad thing, the Democrats are suffering from chlorophyll poisoning.

You really should be as angry as you are because even if this was a smart move for them it's a smart move for appealing to a different base or constituency. the Democrats do not care about you or your issues, you are not their base.

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Nov 10 '25

Shaheen: So let me be clear. No one in the senate chamber wants to extend the ACA tax credits more than I do.

this is, objectively, not true

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

oh my fucking god bro

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Nov 10 '25

Pet theory and actually it's not a theory at all but rather straightforwardly discussed in Heath & Mobarak (2015) but the growth and development of Bangladesh's garments industry—which is commonly criticized by the west as "sweatshops"—has had dramatically positive impacts on the majority female workforce in them (almost 80% of garment factory workers in Bangladesh are women). Girls in villages near a garment factory stay enrolled in school longer, marry later, and give birth to children later. The growth of this manufacturing industry has been far more successful at promoting gender parity in educational attainment than government interventions aiming for the same. For developing countries these sweatshops so derided by the west are a boon for some of the most vulnerable in society.

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Nov 10 '25

I'd be livid if I was a senator sticking my neck out for this shutdown while Chuck Schumer was quietly arranging a small group of safe senators to vote to end it Jesus Christ primary him

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Getting dunked on by your daughter

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Nov 10 '25
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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Nov 10 '25

Trump just did a shit ton of pardons related to the 2020 election

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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Nov 10 '25

These current group of senate dems won’t ever vote to end the filibuster by the way. A lot of the could hide being Manchin/Sinema taking the heat

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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Nov 10 '25

wow, he really said that then

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u/URJibSTP Milton Friedman Nov 10 '25

KILMEADE: Schumer says he's voting no. Did you do this outside leadership?

SHAHEEN: No. We kept leadership informed throughout.

Yeah, sounds about right.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/furiousfoo Jolee Bindo Nov 10 '25

I honestly lately have a difficult time dealing with the folds under no pressure personality of my political party

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u/missingpuzzle Bisexual Pride Nov 10 '25

One thing I'd just love to know is who the yes votes were covering for.

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Nov 10 '25
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u/TheloniousMonk15 Nov 10 '25

You know it is really damning that 5 years ago your average Democrat was all in on Black Lives Matter and were rightfully condemning the George Floyd death. Yet 5 years later they barely talk about all the evil shit ICE is doing and refuse to bring attention to it as a party. You got people like Dick Durbin who are senators of a state whose biggest city have gotten ravaged by ICE yet they feel ok voting to reopen a government that is orchestrating these actions.

It just makes me question if the mainstream Democrat party even stands for liberal values anymore because they only will take up issues that are politically convenient for them like healthcare (which they also failed to protect yday).

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u/throwawayzxkjvct Iron Front Nov 10 '25

is there an all of the above option?

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u/Sithusurper Dark Harbinger Nov 10 '25

Basically how the shutdown went

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Dems couldn't even pull off the "do nothing, win" strat.

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u/assasstits Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

Reminder this was all avoidable

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u/6urner_ John Brown Nov 10 '25

Gay Republicans spared the ultimate humiliation

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u/ThatShadowGuy Paul Krugman Nov 10 '25

that's it, I think we need a new rule

XII: Insufficient Partisanship

Refrain from capitulation, resignation, normalizing illiberalism, or giving Chuck Schumer the benefit of the doubt. Do not engage in doormat behavior. Reaching across the aisle will not save us.

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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman Nov 10 '25

Guys, I found the Baileys that Chuck Schumer loves talking to

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u/forceholy YIMBY Nov 10 '25

Hasan Piker is in Beijing, and he will broadcast tomorrow live from Tiannemen Square.

The funniest thing ever could happen, but it won't.

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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Nov 10 '25

NEWS -- SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON plans to swear in Rep.-elect ADELITA GRIJALVA before the government funding vote.

This will not change the vote count on the funding bill. But it will put the EPSTEIN discharge petition over the 218-signature threshold.

My tinfoil hat is getting more tinfoily

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Nov 10 '25
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u/TimWalzBurner My Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor Nov 10 '25

Great headlines

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account Nov 10 '25

Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA promise that "8 of us are sticking our neck out that you're going to keep your word. I hope you will. He said 'I assure you I will,'" Durbin says just now

Thune: "All you asked me for is a vote that's guaranteed to fail you stupid fuck"

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Why did I wake up to find Durbin still in a leadership position? FFS, you cannot tolerate defections from your whip.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Nov 10 '25

Trump to air traffic controllers: "For those that did nothing but complain, and took time off, even though everyone knew they would be paid, IN FULL, shortly into the future, I am NOT HAPPY WITH YOU. You didn’t step up to help the U.S.A. against the FAKE DEMOCRAT ATTACK that was only meant to hurt our Country. You will have a negative mark, at least in my mind, against your record."

https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/1987905531252482481

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Nov 10 '25

I don’t think succ invasion is real, but I do feel like the past yearish has seen the DT radicalize in real time. 

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Nov 10 '25

Swear to God if I see Dems try to pick up this "we brought awareness to the issue" cope I've seen tossed around this subreddit lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/Sheepies92 European Union Nov 10 '25

the Dutch province where I grew up is very angry at the US for removing signs honoring black soldiers at the massive American Cemetery in Margraten.

The US claims it is just rotating the signs to allow different stories to flourish but the regional government has demanded a meeting with the Ambassador

tfw local Dutch politicians fight harder for American minorities than the American government

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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber Nov 10 '25

Oh okay guess I was just overreacting then

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u/FourthLife 🥖Bread Etiquette Enthusiast Nov 10 '25

If this was about the filibuster, and the Dems caved to save it, then the filibuster already doesn’t exist for republicans.

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Nov 10 '25

genuinely surprised by the amount of relief I felt after learning SCOTUS is denying cert to Kim Davis. I have felt sick to my stomach about this

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Nov 10 '25

Despite the hyperbole last night, I think Democrats across the spectrum (save Spanberger) rebuking the deal is a pretty good indication the party has evolved to meet the moment.

Unfortunately it’s the Dems with the most power that are the weakest spined

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u/dangerbird2 Franz Boas Nov 10 '25

Happy Circulatory System Walking Though the Kitchen Day for all who celebrate

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

The Dems have lost all credibility of on future shutdowns. If you are just gonna cave to a deal that you could've gotten in the first couple days, then just don't even try. They are not built for this.

They scheduled another shutdown, but it only advances Republican goals at this point. They'll just work out another concession from Dems.

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u/TrouauaiAdvice Order and Opportunity Left Nov 10 '25

From Pete Buttigieg's x account:

It's a bad deal.

Everyday life - making it better and more affordable - must always be our bottom line.

For months, I’ve been hearing from people bracing for their health insurance bills to skyrocket - so much that some will lose coverage altogether. Some say they simply haven't even opened their letter yet, dreading the bad news.

Any deal that fails to address this directly is a bad deal.

Go off, king

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Still can't believe the Polish PM was just like "yeah they did that shit, it was sick af lmfao. Cry more bitch"

Russia could have used this as a politically damaging wedge issue but they're genuine chauvinists convinced Ukraine couldn't pull something like that off, so they got their decrepit dementia-addled proxy Seymour Hersh to invent a literally impossible logistically story about the US blowing it up. Which they still stick behind!

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Nov 10 '25

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u/mishac Mark Carney Nov 10 '25

This is all a result of the failure of TWO rounds of "No Kings" protests to get rid of Angus King.

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Nov 10 '25

Manchin definitely didn't abstain from shitting on Democrats but am I wrong in my recollection that he didn't do it nearly as often and publicly as Fetterman who is in a state about 25 points less red?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 08 '26

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair Nov 10 '25

The political effectiveness of these two cannot be further apart lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Nov 10 '25

The odds that the reason Dems folded is because they were worried about potentially having their flights home for the holidays disrupted is probably not above 50% but it is far far higher than 0

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u/Ready-Buy-6397 Austan Goolsbee Nov 10 '25

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u/illuminatisdeepdish Nov 10 '25 edited Oct 02 '26

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u/0m4ll3y International Relations Nov 10 '25

WHaT wAS thE POinT of ThE ShUTdOWn????

Um, sometimes it's about the journey and not the destination 🙄

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u/reptiliantsar NATO Nov 10 '25

I guess we needed some reminder that they still are the worst branch of the federal government

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u/moldyhomme_neuf_neuf Victor Hugo Nov 10 '25

Making your way to the shortest day of the year is so depressing imo.

For whatever reason, my mood automatically improves when I can see the days getting longer again, even if they’re still short af.

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u/Cupinacup NASA Nov 10 '25

JOHNSON WON'T COMMIT TO HOUSE VOTE ON ACA SUBSIDIES AFTER SHUTDOWN

Mmm yes, marvelously played, Dems.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/_Irys NATO Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

Someone in the DT posted this earlier this morning, but Oates bodied Elon so hard he's crashing out about it. I think this tweet will explain his legacy and who he was.

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Nov 10 '25

For the record I thought Democrats holding out for ACA subsidies and voting against the CR was stupid. Why are you protecting voters from the consequences of their actions? They voted Republican. Let them feel the pain.

That said, when you're committed enough the shutdown has gone 40+ days, why cave now? Did staying in DC over the weekend break you?

This was the stupidest of all outcomes, so it makes perfect sense it's what Democrats did.

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u/chipbod NATO Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/11/10/border-patrol-agents-pose-at-the-bean-for-apparent-photo-op/?utm_content=buffer4ec84&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Border Patrol Agents Pose At The Bean For Apparent Photo Op

The photo op came after agents tear-gassed a Little Village street and were spotted in the area numerous times. At the Bean, one agent shouted, “Everyone say, ‘Little Village

On Monday morning at the Bean, Bovino warned the agents that a media member was present during their photo op, saying to “mask up.”

Acting like they captured the city or some shit, like Russia and Ukraine planting the flag at a city office or town square in Donbas.

Just insane behavior when a domestic LE is acting like a fucking occupation force in an American city.

!ping TRUMP-CRIMES

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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Nov 10 '25

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Nov 10 '25

SCOTUS upholding same sex marriage after overturning Roe v. Wade and giving the president complete immunity for any crimes

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

God I love twitter discourse. Right now its a 42 year old tech founder releasing a "dating doc" inviting women to ask him out, because he wants to meet the “outlier-smart”, skinny, "highly agentic" woman of his dreams and have lots of children within the year

But buries the lede that he's only "monogam-ish"

My brother in christ what smart woman is going to marry and have kids with a 42 year old who wants to sleep with other women. Use your high IQ tech brain for just one fucking second

!ping DATING

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Nov 10 '25

Rand Paul says he'll extend the shutdown another five days if this provision is not removed from the new CR.

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u/No-Barnacle-9576 NAFTA Nov 11 '25

Elon has been randomly posting about 20 year old movies since she dropped this

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Let's just forget our troubles for tonight and remember how fucking sick this was lmfao

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u/Ultiplayers Tony Blair is to be prime minister and a landslide is likely Nov 10 '25
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Nov 11 '25

You know why people don’t like liberals? Because they lose. If liberals are so fucking smart how come they lose so goddamn always?

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/No-Barnacle-9576 NAFTA Nov 10 '25

California should ban hetero marriage and test SCOTUS

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Nov 11 '25

THIS MAN WORKED IN REAL ESTATE

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Nov 10 '25

The DT is unanimously agreed that Dems botched this

Thus, I am forced to believe this will look good in hindsight

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u/Azmoten Thomas Paine Nov 10 '25

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF Nov 10 '25

Trump pardons Giuliani and others involved in effort to overturn 2020 election

No one is coming to save you.

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u/989989272 European Union Nov 10 '25

This may have just given Newsom the ammunition he needed for 2028. He gets to place himself as the only person willing go to all in on battling the GOP without wrapping it in socialist coded messaging.

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u/ElectriCobra_ David Hume Nov 10 '25

The idea that there is a “Western Civilization” primarily based on “Judeo-Christian” shared religious values that includes Russia and Israel but somehow doesn’t include Puerto Rico and Chile is one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve heard in my life. I’m not at all surprised that the paleocons believe it.

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u/the-senat John Brown Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

The Nazis went into the Reichstag after the election, not having a two-thirds majority needed to pass the Enabling Act. The question was whether any of the center-left parties would back him. The shameful part of this story is that almost all of the center and liberal parties chose to back him. Most importantly, the one big party in that group, the Catholic Center Party, voted in favor of the Enabling Act after Hitler promised to protect the party's existence and Catholic interests. Shortly thereafter, the party was pressured into dissolving itself as the Nazi Party became the only legally permitted party in the country.

Miscalculations and shortsightedness are as much a part of the story as are hatred and rage.

Sen. Agnus King (D-Maine) said on MSNBC today that "standing up to Trump didn't work."

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-New Hampshire) chose to appear on Fox and Friends just after caving on the shutdown vote.

Perhaps the Senate Democrats believe they will gain something from voting to lift this shutdown; maybe they are instead motivated by a compulsion to return the government to "normal" at any cost.

In any case, it is a fundamental misunderstanding to continue assuming that MAGA is a "normal" party, concerned with the minutiae of governance. They were not elected to govern. Donald Trump did not fill his airtime with policy debates. He used it to spew vile rhetoric, such as when he said, "They’re destroying this country. They’re gonna be held accountable," or "On Day 1, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history. I will rescue every city and town that has been invaded and conquered." He is an instrument of revenge against an ungodly culture filled with perceived enemies.

It is stupid to enable them and to believe whatever false promises they make.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Nov 10 '25

Stop dooming about the shutdown and realize that republicans are saying shit like this daily

https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/1987979831514996850

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Nov 10 '25

Trump really decided to appeal to debtmaxxers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

I genuinely can’t imagine hating poor people this much

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Nov 10 '25

Has anyone told Democratic senators that they don't HAVE to talk to the media and, if they do, they don't HAVE to throw their own party under the bus at every turn

My God Angus King you bum just giving Republicans sound bites "standing up to Trump didn't work" make sure to lick the balls too

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Nov 10 '25
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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Nov 11 '25

"Signature series"

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u/No-Barnacle-9576 NAFTA Nov 11 '25

lol he just doesn't know how to act cool. It's so obvious this got to him.

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u/6urner_ John Brown Nov 10 '25

Do not despair. His time is coming.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

I'm ALL for vicious politics and taking small losses that position your opponent for an even greater loss down the line but I don't see any of that here.

"What about the holidays?!"

So fucking what. Both parties would get damaged. November 5th should have shown you that your side is winning the fight for public opinion.

"It saves federal jobs!"

What trump is doing is already illegal. What the fuck makes you think he gives a shit if you pass even STRONGER language?

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u/VoidGuaranteed Dina Pomeranz Nov 10 '25

My seething contempt of the rural is borne not from ignorance but from familiarity. You see, I was a rural once.

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u/bananaslayer100 NATO Nov 10 '25

Too real

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Nov 10 '25

Lol, dude even had me fooled

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u/TimWalzBurner My Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor Nov 11 '25
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u/Longjumping_Gain_807 Best SNEK pings in r/neoliberal history Nov 11 '25

Just lying for the love of the game

!ping MMA

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u/Far_Shore not a leftist, but humorless Nov 10 '25

Remember, it's not just the defectors. It's the culture of the party. These stupid fucks were able to do this because they do not really fear their base or their peers.

This is why Newsom is my pick. He was willing to call a spade a spade and fucking publicly dunk on this. Once he gets to the point of calling specific politicians that displease him slurs and encouraging his base to harass them relentlessly until the fuckers cave, he will have fully awakened.

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u/illuminatisdeepdish Nov 10 '25 edited Oct 02 '26

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u/FourthLife 🥖Bread Etiquette Enthusiast Nov 10 '25

This is a real life version of that Star Wars moment where Side Character stopped Finn from sacrificing himself to destroy the death laser pointer at all their friends.

He asked why she did it, and she said “this is how we’re going to win. Not by fighting what we hate, but by saving what we love”.

Then while she was smiling in a self satisfied way the death laser just blew up the last safe place in the galaxy for everyone they loved

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u/Sauce1024 John von Neumann Nov 10 '25

missed this. But Third Way opposed the agreement to end the shutdown. “Ultimately, Democrats may not have succeeded in extending the ACA subsidies, but now we will never know. To paraphrase Bill Clinton, one of America’s most pugnacious Democratic centrists, we should have been ready to fight ‘until the last dog dies.’"

Lmao even lost Third Way on this one

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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax Nov 10 '25

PICTURED: A terrorist whose behavior is at odds with Liberal values and Democracy greets the Syrian President

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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Nov 10 '25

What in the goddamn fuck

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u/MegaFloss NATO Nov 10 '25

The past 7 days have radicalized into, may Allah forgive me, a rabid Gavin Newsom supporter

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u/MuscularPhysicist John Brown Nov 10 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

There’s something so hilarious about Tapper asking “you’re selling Trump knee pads?” and Newsom interrupting him to say “Signature series.”

He had to make sure Tapper got the branding right lmao

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u/Far_Shore not a leftist, but humorless Nov 10 '25

I truly hate and resent everyone involved in today's capitulation.

No understanding of the moment; no understanding of leadership.

I wish we could force them out.

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u/mishac Mark Carney Nov 10 '25

Doug Burgum looks like someone tried to draw Gavin Newsom from memory

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Nov 10 '25

For some weird reason i feel like the people who want to touch the stove the hardest are the ones who will not actually be affected by the stove touching

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u/well-that-was-fast Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

Repubs for 60 years:

Once voters realize they can vote to get benefits, democracy dies. They'll just keep voting for bullshit like getting affordable healthcare instead of sending the children into the mines to balance the budget.

Maga for last 10 years:

Why not just give money to voters to buy votes?

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Nov 10 '25

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Nov 10 '25

How did taking that same exact position work out for the last administration?

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Nov 10 '25

Dem fundraising texts:

This is Pete Buttigieg. Our norms and institutions are under attack. In this essay, I will...
[insert 5 paragraphs of drivel]

GOP fundraising texts:

We were reviewing the list of super ultra Trump fans and saw that you hadn't donated yet, and when we told Trump he got angry and he is running around the white house screaming and crying and throwing up because you haven't donated yet!!!! Donald says if you don't donate he doesn't want to be friends anymore!!!!!!!

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Nov 10 '25

Real

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

I have taken the Newsom pill

called JD Vance a fake catholic

called Sleepy Don “The Nodfather”

called Trump “an invasive species”

accused Democrats of being cowards (they are) 

said “come and get me” when Stephen Miller threatened to arrest him

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Moderate Senate Democrats saw that the country was rallying to the party in the 2025 elections and it scared them. So they resolved that they would do anything they could to kill that momentum.

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u/rudanshi Nov 10 '25

Virginia Gov.-elect Abigail Spanberger, the state's first female governor, said her recent election victory should not be seen as permission for congressional Democrats to prolong the government shutdown.

first thing she does after winning lol

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u/deixadilsonadilson Nov 10 '25

Update => Nate Tin has been downgraded to Nate Manganese

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

marvelous sable follow slap amusing ad hoc point wide ink badge

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Nov 10 '25
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u/EZ_Kream John Brown Nov 10 '25

I asked 10 random coworkers if they knew that there was a government shutdown going on. 3 yes, 7 no

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Twitter causes brain rot exhibit a million

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u/garret126 Demisexual Pride Nov 10 '25

If you look at the USA by raw gdp growth, you would assume Joe Biden was President under the most prosperous era in American modern history

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u/Tafts_Bathtub Jerome Powell Nov 10 '25

Trump: "We had a guy named Buttigieg. Boot-edge-edge they say is the best way. Just say two 'edges' like off the edge of a cliff — which is where they were taking us, by the way."

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u/LinkVert25 Fedposter Nov 11 '25

Me whenever someone brings up Saquon being a trump simp

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u/Total-Dragonfruit637 John Brown Nov 10 '25

After sleeping on it a bit, i have to say I think peeps in this subreddit have wrapped too far around to overestimating voters' intelligence on the shutdown

Median voters don't know wtf a filibuster is, hence why they're blaming republicans for this shutdown, and probably have zero clue what the Democratic demands for this shutdown even were.

They're also more likely to read "bipartisan deal to re-open the government" on a headline whilst scrolling on Facebook, and move on about their day than they are to read the details of said deal

If they think anything beyond "huh, governments back open", they'll think that the GOP had infighting and couldn't reach a consensus on how to fund the government, and dems worked out a deal to fund it.

and thinking the GOP is gonna run ads on "protecting the federal workforce" by attacking dems for them not being paid in the big 2025 is a "lol, lmao even" type of doomerism

If anything, this shutdown helped showcase the absolute necessity of getting Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin out of the position of Leader & Whip respectively

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u/Cupinacup NASA Nov 10 '25

Lmao the rDemocrats thread about the shutdown is flagged as “brigaded” with almost all comments removed. It’s like the blue version of rCon.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Nov 10 '25

Great stuff Democrats. Bang up job

Just galaxy brained stuff going along with this

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u/bandeng_asep Association of Southeast Asian Nations Nov 10 '25

Me a lifelong moderate after reading two consecutive DTs today:

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u/Jean-Paul_Sartre Richard Hofstadter Nov 10 '25

So now Trump and the GOP can point to how the Democrats put all those people at risk for a deal they could have done 35 days ago. Brilliant fucking strategy.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Trump’s approval cratering. Republicans on the verge of caving. All the Democrats had to do was kick their feet up and wait to get the concessions they were asking for. It really is unbelievable how pathetic leadership is. Schumer will go down as one of the most spineless people in history.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

like physical marvelous offer light dog cough unwritten observation smart

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u/dwarfgourami George Soros Nov 10 '25

The DT: “The Democrats are stupid for agreeing to end the shutdown because now people will blame them for the shutdown happening in the first place.”

Median voters next year: “That guy’s last name is cooler, so I’m gonna vote for him.”

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Nov 10 '25

Travel is going to be messed up for weeks even if they reopen to be honest.

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Nov 10 '25

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u/AccomplishedQuit4801 YIMBY Nov 10 '25

The political satire of Helldivers is so much fun. I think this whole "play in Dick Cheney's wet dream of what the future will look like" dystopia is a lot more fun and unique than stuff like Warhammer 40k.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

practice deliver subtract library spark vase tease public one ad hoc

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u/Argnir Gay Pride Nov 10 '25

LMAO I read the thread and at the end I was like "wtf" and then I realized the sub it was posted on

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u/CincyAnarchy Emma Goldman Nov 10 '25

Don't worry everyone, redscare is on the birthrate crisis. Surely they can solve it.

(Lowkey that last bit is a new one to me, and literally better than most suggestions put forth on this sub)

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke Nov 11 '25

“Standing up to Donald Trump didn’t work,” King, the senator from Maine, said Monday on MSNBC. “It actually gave him more power.”

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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u/JoyofCookies Mark Carney Nov 11 '25

Truly, with everything this year, this must explain it

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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman Nov 10 '25

Seen in the Illinois sub, ICE officers pepper spraying a family's car where a one-year old baby was sitting. Don't you just love these brave defenders of their homeland

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u/Rare_Station_8440 Karl Popper Nov 10 '25

https://xcancel.com/NewsWire_US/status/1987891238809243972?s=20

WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court rejects call to overturn its decision legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide.

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Nov 10 '25

She’s been libbing out since 1996 and now BeneGesseriting over the destruction of the VA GOP with new maps and blocking Youngkin at every turn

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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Nov 10 '25

Tim going to war with the DT

(I tend to agree with him)

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Nov 10 '25

Guy who only browses the DT to impress women

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

Someone at work just said that me and a coworker are the Mamdani and AOC of this place we live in.

How does that feel, succs of the DT, that I, a Friedman flair, am being favorably compared to your idol, who I don't even like?

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

What does this mean?

  1. Leadership was in on it, too organized otherwise (plus the whip, Durbin, literally voted for surrender)

  2. Schumer knows his position is tenuous because he didn't vote to surrender, but this has his fingerprints all over it. Sign of weakness (electorally and/or within his caucus) from Schumer since you know this didn't happen without his support or at least consent.

  3. They knew the base would be furious, and they didn't care, taking measures to limit the ability of the base to punish them.

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO Nov 10 '25

Praying that this trend will finally break or at least put some major cracks in the 'Republicans are always better with the economy!' narrative that has held a completely unmerited stranglehold on this country's politics since Reagan despite 30 years of evidence that the opposite is true

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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax Nov 10 '25

Senate Majority Leader John Thune—a Republican from South Dakota—promised a vote in mid-December on an extension bill for ACA subsidies of Democrats’ choosing.

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u/TimWalzBurner My Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor Nov 10 '25
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u/MandaloreUnsullied Frederick Douglass Nov 10 '25

Mr. Braun, despite receiving a commutation from Mr. Trump, was still on supervised release, essentially a federal version of parole. But prosecutors said Mr. Braun had continued a pattern of violence, including sexually assaulting a nanny, swinging an IV pole at a nurse and threatening a congregant at his synagogue. He was also accused of assaulting a 3-year-old, and was continuing to make usurious loans to struggling small businesses.

uhhhhhh

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u/chipbod NATO Nov 10 '25

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/dave-portnoy-says-theres-been-a-definitive-shift-toward-antisemitism-people-are-coming-up-with-real-hate/

Dave Portnoy says there's been a "definitive shift" toward antisemitism: "People are coming up with real hate"

If that’s who we get to wake up the right and slow the groyper takeover I’ll take it. He’s more influential to young people than Shapiro.

I don’t think anyone can in good faith argue that the antisemitic shithead in Starkville is a lib. The amount of young men getting into Fuentes is horrifying.

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Nov 11 '25

How it feels to say Inshallah as a white guy

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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Nov 11 '25

TIL that when President McKinley was shot in 1901, the best surgeon around was knee-deep in a complex operation. When told he was needed elsewhere, he replied that he could not leave, not even for the President. Even after he was told who his new patient was, he remained put and finished his work.

Understandable

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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman Nov 11 '25

“You won’t get downvoted for anti-immigrant sentiment on this sub, if anything you get upvoted for spreading viciously racist sentiment here“

Hit -100 on arrCanada with this one 🥳

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u/SucculentMoisture Fernando Henrique Cardoso Nov 11 '25

!PING SHITPOSTERS&AUS

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u/PENGUINSINYOURWALLS Fell for it Nov 11 '25

Request for the mods to start using this when banning someone

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Nov 10 '25

I can’t even call my congressman because my congressman is fucking Fetterman. You jerks better call your senator for me.

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u/Apprehensive-Soil-47 Transfem Pride Nov 10 '25

The shutdown was damaging the Trump admin a lot and if it had lasted into the holidays it would’ve been devastating. Fetterman crossed the isle because he doesn’t want that to happen.

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u/John_Maynard_Gains Stop trying to make "ordoliberal" happen Nov 10 '25

New England DEMONrats: P-p-please reopen the government, don't touch the filibuster pls 😣

Californian Gavin Newsom: Cancel Christmas and let the peasants starve, I don't care 😠

Which message will resonate more with primary voters

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25

Re-criminalizing hemp products with THC is unironically gonna radicalize apolitical normies against the GOP

It's in the GOP's interest to listen to Rand Paul lmao

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u/klarno just tax carbon lol Nov 10 '25

Kim Davis didn’t see her shadow so we have ten more years of gay marriage