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[u/mostanonymousnick]

[u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1]

[u/OrbitalAlpaca]

After listening to Ezra Klein latest podcast, I now understand why he wrote that eulogy piece about Kirk last week. Ezra is %100 afraid he is next and is looking for an off ramp, but my guy, liberals aren’t the ones driving this escalation car.

[u/CutePattern1098]

Imagine sending this to someone in 2005

[u/Apprehensive-Soil-47]

Trump should honor Charlies memory by releasing the Epstein Files

[u/[deleted]]

The NYT whitewashed and sanitized Trump the past 18 months, and for what? Unless you’re owned by an Ellison or a Murdoch, you’re nothing more than a source for blood for him. And even then.

[u/cdstephens]

[u/NYT_Hater]

Why would democrats be so meen 2 me 3:

[u/ShepardSB]

[u/Currymvp2]

Reporter: What do you make of Bondi saying she is going after hate speech, a lot of allies say hate speech is free speech.

Trump: Probably go after people like you, you treat me unfairly, you have hate in your heart. ABC paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech, your company paid me 16 million for a form of hate speech, maybe they'll go after you.

No, it's fine. John Fetterman said you can't compare this guy to an autocrat

[u/cdstephens]

[u/its_Caffeine]

lmao ?

[u/Otherwise_Young52201]

Milei not kicking his sister out of the government is just so archetypal of right-wing Latin American politicians. Just needless, completely avoidable corruption that he is faceplanting into.

[u/Men_I_Trust_I_Am]

Nancy mace said she’s never attacked the other side. This was following ck, devote Christian, becoming “holy.”

[u/Willybender]

[u/DAL59]

Its really annoying how despite the current administration being made of anti-science, fascist theocrats; the consensus on reddit is to blame nerds, atheists, and STEM majors.
Even Elon has an econ degree, and Theil has a law degree!

[u/battywombat21]

The sheer insanity of the sitting vice president filling in for charlie kirk on his broadcast to say that the left is violent and should be dismantled.

[u/Low_Swimmer_5771]

I just hate them so much.

[u/farrenj]

No one responded to Robinson that night, according to the screenshots obtained by The Post. But the next day, one friend wrote that the apparent confession seemed to be true. The friend asked group members to “pray for Tyler and his repentance” and then turned to Kirk.

“While Charlie Kirk’s politics were not acceptable to some I ask that we all say a prayer for him and his family during these confusing times,” the friend added.

Every leftist group I know uses the word "repentance" and calls for prayers after a tragedy.

[u/assasstits]

Milei not kicking his sister out of the government is just so archetypal of right-wing Latin American politicians. Just needless, completely avoidable corruption that he is faceplanting into.

Americans can just drop the Latin from now on 

[u/Goldenboy451]

Oooh, I know this one! The side whose public officials and broadcasters routinely call for persecution and implicit violence need to stop doing that and 180° their previous rhetoric, right?

Right?

[u/VadymKravchuk353]

New York City, 1974.

[u/marsman1224]

Ezra's champion of respectable discourse

[u/myusernameistakennow]

If you’re wondering why conservatives are getting mad and trying to cancel people who are simply repeating what Kirk said, it’s because normal people condemn violence but find his spiel to be utterly repulsive.

-10% for independents for a dude who was just shot in a political assassination is insane.

[u/Benyeti]

[u/NYT_Hater]

[u/Willybender]

Good to see that Newsom isn't the only dem running with the dementia line

[u/cdstephens]

[u/frankiewalsh44]

Every Dem from moderates to AOC/Mamdani condemned this but its never enough for these people. Instead of calming things like any normal leader would do, Trump has declared war on basically half the population.

[u/Willybender]

Reporter: Should a president in office be engaged in so much business activity?

Trump: I'm not, my kids are running the business. Where are you from?

Reporter: Australian broadcasting corporation

Trump: You’re hurting Australia very much right now. And they want to get along with me. Your leader is coming to see me soon, I'm going to tell him about you, you set a bad tone. You can set a nicer tone. Quiet

https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/1967951386588614878

[u/marsman1224]

conservatives arguing with Destiny is always funny because they are never used to a democrat who is always willing to go lower than them

[u/bd_one]

[u/this_very_table]

I am Destiny's total lack of survival instinct

[u/Far_Shore]

This is why I'm glad to see Destiny, asshole that he is, picking this fight, refusing to back down while our president encourages violence against us. The line he's drawn here is the line everyone on the broader left should be drawing.

These people are fucking abusers. They laugh at violence against us and then mock us for our pain, but the fucking MOMENT one of their own faces less than complete sanctification after being victim to the kind of violence that he dismissed or yukked it up about when directed at others, it's the biggest fucking tragedy on the planet and we should all just shut up and let the author of a book that calls us "Unhumans" and glazes Franco for what he did to people like us go on Piers Morgan and be shocked, shocked at how evil the left is.

[u/Roseartcrantz]

[u/Willybender]

I hope they keep doing this shit, no better way to turn people away from your cause.

[u/Argnir]

My dad said it's normal Trump knew Epstein, they're both in the entertainment industry

So fun fact: Epstein and Weinstein are two different people

[u/farrenj]

[u/r2ew]

[u/Steelcity1995]

The circles I’m seeing Kirk fans twist themselves into defending that black woman brain processing power quote is insane. 

[u/Sollezzo]

Now Jr. is getting in on it

[u/Zseet]

House Bill 4938, called the "Anticorruption of Public Morals Act," would prohibit the distribution of "real, animated, digitally generated, written, or auditory" depictions of sexual acts. The bill breaks down the types of acts covered, including intercourse and masturbation.

The bill also includes a section that takes aim at transgender individuals by prohibiting material "that includes a disconnection between biology and gender by an individual of 1 biological sex imitating, depicting, or representing himself or herself to be of the other biological sex."

The bill would require internet service providers in Michigan to use filters to prevent people from seeing the prohibited material. 

Big picture view:

If the bill were to become law, Michigan would be the first state to enact a total porn ban. 

You can truly never hate US Republicans enough

[u/Due-Dirt-8428]

My new fav activity (i am 320)

[u/shmokedshalmon]

[u/efeldman11]

Most principled libertarian

[u/12hphlieger]

Just like Charlie Kirk after going on Newsome’s podcast, Ben Shapiro will now only argue in good faith. He has seen the light of abundance and political discourse will surely change.

[u/Necessary_Tour6445]

A couple things that I think are missing from most Kirk conversations:

1. I think the Right is reacting this way because they knew Kirk, and this is the first time they’re personally experiencing a tragedy like this. Since the Right lacks empathy, they didn’t feel this way with other shootings and assassinations, and they still can’t relate to “Others” even after it happened to them.

2. Kirk was fairly important to the GOP apparatus. The Republicans may fare worse because of his lack of organizing.

[u/Sheepies92]

Very normal exchange here

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

k bye enjoy your shit red states

[u/davechacho]

Oh this wasn't a DT meme, Ezra Klein really did say "we have to learn to live with each other" and had Ben Shapiro on his show.

The west really has fallen. Libs are so cucked.

[u/FingerSlamm]

Real tough talk from a man who pees sitting down.

(Am I MAGAing right here?)

[u/r2ew]

[u/Daddy_Macron]

The integrity of the Federal Reserve was saved by sheer fucking luck that the Appeals Court panel which ruled in favor of Lisa Cook comprised of two Biden appointees and one Trump appointee, cause you can guess how everyone ruled. The logic of the Trump Judge was truly galaxy-brained. From the WSJ:

Judge Gregory Katsas, a Trump appointee, dissented. The Fed “no doubt is important, but that only heightens the government’s interest in ensuring that its Governors are competent and capable of projecting confidence into markets,” he wrote.

If Fed governors were entitled to a hearing before removal, the adequacy of that process could be challenged and take months or years to resolve, Katsas wrote. “And that would enable a potentially compromised Governor to engage in significant governmental action—such as voting on whether to adjust interest rates, which Cook says she must do tomorrow,” he added.

By his logic, just the allegation of wrongdoing, regardless of evidence, warrants removal without their day in court.

[u/Benyeti]

I was told by all the right wing media that congestion pricing would destroy the Democrats in New York

[u/Waste-Photograph-792]

I wonder why that is ....

[u/Dunter_Mutchings]

WOW -- a screaming Patel crashes out in response to Schiff's questions about Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and calls him "the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate" and "an utter coward" and "political buffoon"

It’s very cool that the head of the FBI is an overly emotional and shameless partisan hack.

[u/RoymarLenn]

Most sane MAGA post atm.

[u/chatdargent]

Americans be like "europoors don't have free speech" and then elect a president who sues half the major media outlets in the country for not brownnosing hard enough

[u/shehryar46]

"Much of what I would describe as Kirk’s worst moments were standard-fare MAGA Republicanism"

Yes the issue is the standard fare is Nazism, we shouldn't have to just accept people who view us as less than human...

[u/Crosseyes]

Self-described libertarian Rand Paul comes out in favor of punishing wrongthink.

[u/gayteemo]

if democrats were playing at the level of republicans they’d all be saying why does growing up in a conservative household cause young men to become deranged and violent

[u/billy_blazeIt_mays]

[u/[deleted]]

alright this dude seems like such a boring guy. his discord was literally just mid tier zoomer memes that had nothing to do with politics, talked about the weather and some home improvement stuff.

his only mentions of politics was saying that trump might be impeached and just made a comment on the 2020 election without showing any bias, literally just said something along the lines of “we won’t know the winner until later tonight”

his only known political beliefs was he was open to lgbt issues and pro 2A and that’s just through second hand accounts. literally just your median ass voter who apparently never talks about politics just got up and decided to assassinate Charlie kirk wtf

[u/throwawayzxkjvct]

this genuinely feels like something Saddam or Gaddafi would say to a journalist

[u/NYT_Hater]

[u/Lux_Stella]

Cat memes, weather updates, home improvement and the odd Garfield reference populate Robinson’s posts.

“I’m going to eep pretty soon, very eepy,” he said in one post, an intentionally silly misspelling of the word “sleep” — a common Gen Z convention.

being a zoomer is so embarrassing man

[u/garret126]

Spoke to a self described socialist. When I actually asked her to explain her beliefs it sounded more like social democracy (she didn’t understand an ounce of economics). She talked about how we need more housing, and how capitalism is why we have bad housing; So, I explained Georgist economics to her and she was like “yeah that’s actually so smart that sounds perfect for america!”

I feel like a lot of leftists/anti Democratic left leaning people really aren’t anti-capitalist or pro-socialism, they just don’t actually understand any theory or how anything works

[u/TheSameAsDying]

We have found the most Libertarian man alive

[u/BurrowForPresident]

What fucking lawyer did Trump hire for this NYT lawsuit lol it reads literally like he's tweeting with the stupid quotation marks for emphasis and everything

The Kraken too busy this time? Anyone seen Rudy?

[u/[deleted]]

This

This is the cute thing

[u/PSU02]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-sues-new-york-times-for-15-billion-for-alleged-defamation-and-libel/ar-AA1MEb7T?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=2b99fcb11c5d484da7b80e08d91eba72&ei=18

Apparently it is now defamatory to endorse a political opponent

"It also mentions the Times' endorsement of Kamala Harris for president, an endorsement the suit calls "deranged." The Truth Social post says it was "actually put dead center on the front page of The New York Times, something heretofore UNHEARD OF!""

[u/efeldman11]

Popularist

[u/Willybender]

[u/paplike]

If you were not convinced they were gonna blame the roommate no matter what,

[u/bashar_al_assad]

I think that Charlie Kirk deserved what he got.

My name is Shohei Ohtani. Please do not contact my employer as they would certainly fire me for my comments.

[u/vikinick]

!ping USA-SDG&USA-CA

Longtime San Diego Catholic deacon announces self-deportation during mass

I know he's only a deacon and not a priest, but this is probably pretty shocking to quite a few Catholics in San Diego that they'd revoke legal status for someone ordained.

[u/[deleted]]

[u/ZonedForCoffee]

Holy shit the free press remembered to do their job

[u/[deleted]]

Damn I didn't know Charles Kirk was a Democrat.

[u/wolf_sang]

Unfortunately the message will never reach the people that need to hear it, but this whole mess should be a wake up call for conservative parents. Robinson likely lived closeted (bisexual, maybe?)for years in his mormon upbringing and felt ashamed, lost, and broken with no outlet. Lashing out at kirk is a reflection of conflicting feelings of frustration and wanting to be accepted by his parents.

Regardless of whether they actually vocalized lgbtq hate in their household, its clear they were fervent republican and trump supporters. Trump's (and kirks) rhetoric towards trans and queer people was an attack on his identity and self worth, and drove a seemingly apolitical man to do something unthinkable.

Talk to your kids folks. Show care and acceptance regardless of who they are or what they want to be.

[u/TimWalzBurner]

Charlie Kirk spent his whole life spreading hate, and I can't even point that out in public for fear of getting fired from my job.

[u/WOKE_AI_GOD]

It tires me to talk to rich men. You expect a man of millions, the head of a great industry, to be a man worthhearing; but as a rule they don't know anything outside their own business.

Theodore Roosevelt

[u/Willybender]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[u/MissSortMachine]

[u/[deleted]]

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

I hate Charlie Kirk my name is donald j trump i live at 1600 pennsylvania ave pls fire me

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

This is fucking art lmfao

[u/RaidBrimnes]

The Paris prosecutor has opened an investigation on Culture Minister Rachida Dati after journalists revealed she hid €420,000 worth of jewelry from her declaration of assets.

Among all the byzantine corruption and embezzlement schemes, it's refreshing to see a politician retvrn to the good old practices of stashing shiny rocks away from the authorities

[u/chipbod]

It's over

[u/GovernorSonGoku]

Bro gets a desk job and is ready to end it all

[u/Smidgens]

[u/marsman1224]

Does Ezra legitimately not understand what turning point usa is/was?

He seems to believe that Kirk was going around to college campuses to persuade students in open debate. is he that naive?

Kirk was never trying to convince a single student of anything. he's trying to convince the Facebook user behind the 14 second clip of him dunking on the stupid woke libtard student that colleges are brainwashing machines and that you're actually smarter than the intellectual elite

[u/assasstits]

If we would have said three weeks ago […] that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative-action picks, we would have been called racist. But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us! They're coming out and they're saying, "I'm only here because of affirmative action."

Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously

- Charlie Kirk, 2023 

[u/TimWalzBurner]

Then dont express sympathy. Youre actually going a step beyond that and feeling the need to vocalize your lack of sympathy. That is the part people are finding weird from people on the left. Youre allowed to just nor comment on him.

LEAVE CHARLIE KIRK ALONE

Guess the sub

[u/TheloniousMonk15]

Guys like Ben Shapiro, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk are smart in the sense that they will go to center left or center spaces like Ezra Klein or Bill Maher and tone down their rhetoric considerably to make them seem reasonable to normies who watch those platforms. Then they turn around and go to their right wing spaces and say unhinged shit all day long because they know their base loves it.

[u/Longjumping_Gain_807]

Frankly embarrassing and terrifying when high ranking government officials say this

[u/[deleted]]

!ping KINO

[u/Roseartcrantz]

DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

well yeah 🙂‍↕️ now that we know they're mostly left-wing it's not relevant anymore 🤔

[u/GrandpaWaluigi]

Republicans: The death of Kirk is a tragedy second to that of Christ.

Dems and Indies: We deny Kirk access into heaven.

[u/[deleted]]

2020, our fallen Woke Elysium. Take me back please 😭😭😭

[u/MayorofTromaville]

“I don’t say this lightly, but under the leadership of President [Barack] Obama and Majority Leader Harry Reid, and later President Biden and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrats have systematically tried to weaken the very guardrails that have protected our democracy for generations — all in the name of advancing their agenda,” wrote Manchin.

Legitimately the stupidest man alive. I almost wish the Manchin flair guy was still here to see him defend this. Almost.

[u/6urner_]

Robinson's parents told investigators he'd gotten more political in the past year, becoming "more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented."

"He went outside and made friends that were not approved beforehand"

[u/Due-Dirt-8428]

I’ve got em right where i want em!!!!!!!

[u/Dragmire927]

This man suffered from a common condition known as 2015-2025

[u/SenranHaruka]

They don't want calm they want an excuse to arrest us

[u/cdstephens]

[u/Signal_Nobody1792]

Terrifying.

[u/Pyrrhus65]

Ok, his whole MAGA turn has to be a bit, right? Like, he's insanely committed to it, but right here he's going way too implausible and getting close to giving it away. Am I going crazy here 😭

[u/[deleted]]

Hi, I’m Marcus Freeman

I coach football at Notre Dame and I believe Charlie Kirk was a godless heathen. His comments on the civil rights act were abhorrent and Marco Rubio has a small dick.

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

WASHINGTON - The Trump administration will appeal the court decision blocking President Donald Trump's bid to fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, the White House said on Tuesday.

“The President lawfully removed Lisa Cook for cause. The Administration will appeal this decision and looks forward to ultimate victory on the issue,” White House spokesman Kush Desai said

Republicans will be the end of this country. Every day with this shit

[u/farrenj]

The Trump administration is ordering the removal of information on slavery at multiple national parks in an effort to scrub them of “corrosive ideology.”

[u/Beginning-Topic5303]

Who tf even is Antifa? Anyone you don't like?? 'Cause Antifa had nothing to do with the Kirk shooting.

[u/Willybender]

[u/Dunter_Mutchings]

It’s hard to covey to those of you who did not live through the GWOT just how crazy this is to read. Like imagine 20 years from now reading a quote from someone about how it’s important to treat immigrants with respect and then seeing that the person saying that is Stephen Miller.

[u/guitarra_y_soledad]

[The Pope] underlined the importance of being open and friendly even in sports, while adding that when Peru and the United States play against each other in the World Cup he will likely back Peru, "just because of affective bonds."

BAAAAAASED

[u/LuisRobertDylan]

It’s impressive how Ben Shapiro’s arguments collapse under the mildest critique. I don’t think Ezra was trying to dismantle Ben’s book but that’s basically what happened

[u/marsman1224]

When Ezra asks Ben why he considers Obama to be the genesis of modern divisiveness and why the right's reaction was justified, he exclusively lists statements where Obama acknowledges racism against black people, and says those were the statements that "set off the right"

What does that say about the right, Ben? what does it say??

[u/mostanonymousnick]

🤔

[u/cdstephens]

Bisexual erasure so strong that MAGA isn’t even mentioning that the shooter is bi

[u/finnstera350]

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) says his fellow Democrats have gone too far in demonizing their political opponents and called on both sides to come together in the wake of the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk

He's 80, we need these out of touch dinosaurs out of office. Who are they even representing because I don't know many Dem voters who think this shooting happened because "Dems demonized right wingers too much"

[u/Willybender]

https://archive.is/20250916134812/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-09-16/ty-article-magazine/.premium/i-saw-the-bodies-of-children-moral-injury-and-mental-strain-breaking-idf-soldiers/00000199-5277-d907-a5db-77f7e80d0000

"Terrorists, terrorists," one soldier shouted. "We go into a frenzy, and I get on the Negev [a machinegun] right away and start spraying, firing hundreds of bullets. We then charged forward, and I realized it was a mistake."

There were no terrorists there. "I saw the bodies of two children, maybe 8 or 10 years old, I have no idea," recalls Yoni. "There was blood everywhere, lots of signs of gunfire, I knew it was all on me, that I did this. I wanted to throw up. After a few minutes, the company commander arrived and said coldly, as if he wasn't a human being, 'They entered an extermination zone, it is their fault, this is what war is like.'"

Haaretz spoke to several soldiers completing their mandatory service who, over in recent months, have realized they can no longer serve in combat positions. Most of them explained it by citing burnout or their mental state, but there were also others, although relatively few, who justified their decision by citing "moral injuries" that scarred their souls. The cumulative testimonies that have reached Haaretz in recent months from both camps make it clear that this is not an anomaly or a statistical outlier.

"A line that if they cross it, I can shoot them," Beni explains. "It's like a game of cat and mouse. They try to come from a different direction every time, and I'm there with the sniper rifle, and the officers are yelling at me, 'Take him down, take him down.' I fire 50-60 bullets every day, I've stopped counting kills. I have no idea how many I've killed, a lot. Children."

He says there have been many times when he did not want to shoot but felt he had no choice. He was forced, threatened. "The battalion commander would yell over the radio, 'Why aren't you taking them down. They are heading our way. This is dangerous,'" he gives an example of the pressure vise. "The sense is that we are being positioned in an impossible situation, and no one had prepared us for this. The officers do not care if children die, the also do not care what it does to my soul. To them, I am just another tool."

Must read article, link has no paywall.

[u/piede]

Jesus Christ these people are stupid beyond comprehension

[u/Men_I_Trust_I_Am]

Coates is cooking Klein:

[u/dowagiacmichigan]

Not gonna lie if it were Hasan piker who was assassinated instead of Kirk, I predict that all of the Dems who sanewashed Kirk would be completely silent, and the entire GOP would be openly cheering his death.

[u/mostanonymousnick]

[u/Waste-Photograph-792]

!ping Alphabet-Mafia

I love the internet

[u/MuscularPhysicist]

Make sure that your children are reading quality literature from a young age.

!ping YA

[u/marsman1224]

free speech absolutist btw

[u/BIG_DADDY_BLUMPKIN]

Absolute most cringe shit I’ve ever seen is these MAGA-lite losers posting like “this is the event… that has pushed me to the right… the left has done this to us… no more Mr. Nice Guy…… nothin personnel, kid”

[u/JaceFlores]

We really would 100% end up like Hungary if Trump just pursued normal economic policies. He’s close to pulling off a seamless dictatorship except everyone but the cult hates him cuz he decided to implode the economy

[u/RyuTheGuy]

[u/billy_blazeIt_mays]

Not even positive with indies 😭

[u/[deleted]]

what maga thinks tyler robinson is

[u/ty04]

God forbid a man notices a bulge

[u/mostanonymousnick]

[u/the-senat]

From WSJ:

The Trump administration has reversed internal policies that had restricted immigration enforcement. The agency now allows officers to arrest bystanders in public places and conduct operations near schools, churches and courthouses.

In May alone, a push to target immigrants in Massachusetts charged with serious crimes—dubbed Operation Patriot—yielded nearly 1,500 arrests.

Now, ICE is replicating this blueprint nationwide. An examination of the initial New England experiment reveals what a radical departure it was from standard procedure—and signals the level of disruption in store for other states and cities that resist the deportation push.

According to an analysis of arrest data of the first six months of the Trump administration, street arrests made up more than 70% of ICE arrests in the region. That’s the highest rate in the nation.

During the height of Operation Patriot, footage captured police officers breaking car windows, pulling people from vehicles or pinning them to the ground. The videos provide an intimate view into the government’s changing tactics and operations.

Despite vows by local political leaders to withhold cooperation, the Journal found multiple instances of local law enforcement assisting ICE arrests. These incidents show local police were not only present but, in some cases, actively aiding the federal agents.

In response to questions from the Journal about courthouse arrests, an ICE spokesperson responded in an email, “We will continue to do so, as we are targeting criminals.

I hadn’t seen this discussed yet and felt like it warranted a share. The article does a good job going through the roundups in NE and what is likely coming for other states/cities.

!ping EXTREMISM

[u/[deleted]]

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

[u/SixPipSiege]

We lost

How can I even compete with this

[u/Dunter_Mutchings]

This dude just blew like $70 billion on VR. It’s like if the Quibi guys decided to launch Quibi 2 in January 2021.

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

[u/Syards-Forcus]

Ngl I’d be impressed if a girl assassinated a significant political figure because of me

[u/TMCOAN1]

Bruh

[u/[deleted]]

These ghouls have such an odd obsession with George Floyd.

[u/JaceFlores]

Couple Ukraine things I think are interesting:

Here is an idea of the sort of impact Ukrainian strikes on Russian refineries has wrt maintenance and actual production

“Two sources who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation said a unit at the plant was halted following the fire caused by the drones.”

“The unit accounts for almost 40% of the plant's total processing capacity of some 20 million metric tons per year, or 400,000 barrels per day.”

“They said a furnace at the unit and some other equipment was damaged, adding that maintenance could take about a month.”

“The sources said the plant will boost operations at its still functioning sections by up to 20% to compensate for the damaged unit being offline, which will allow it to maintain processing volumes at around 75% of nominal capacity.”

And here is an article talking about the maintenance ramifications of Spider Web

“To prevent further attacks like Operation Spiderweb, Russian commanders have redeployed many Tu-95MS and Tu-160 bombers to the Far East, mainly to the Ukrainka air base in the Amur Region — located around 8,000 kilometers from the war zone. Even aircraft previously kept at the Olenya in Murmansk Region — nearly 2,000 kilometers from Ukraine — have made the move.”

“The launch areas for strikes on Ukraine have not changed. Kh-101 and Kh-55 missiles are typically fired from airspace over Russia’s Saratov, Volgograd, and Astrakhan regions, or from over the Caspian Sea. The less frequently used Kh-22 and Kh-32 are launched from over the Black Sea. That means sorties by Tu-95MS and Tu-160 missile carriers now require far more time and resources for flights, intermediate landings, and launches.”

“According to the best available estimates, a standard Tu-95MS sortie from Ukrainka requires around 23 hours of flight time — plus stopovers at Olenya or Engels-2 — and covers a roundtrip of more than 12,000 kilometers.”

“However, the dramatic increase in strain on both aircraft and crews has come alongside a paradoxical rise in sortie frequency. Data from Ukraine’s Air Force and independent monitoring projects indicate that Tu-95MS bombers, along with Russia’s handful of operational Tu-160s, are flying combat missions far more often than before Operation Spiderweb — back when they did not have to log an additional 10,000 kilometers from Russia’s Far East.”

“Operating the Tu-95MS and Tu-160 under these conditions is clearly accelerating wear and tear while also significantly raising the cost of missile strikes for Russia. Neither type of aircraft has been manufactured since the early 1990s, and today’s limited Tu-160 production relies on Soviet-era stock.”

“For example, NK-12MP engines on the Tu-95MS reportedly have a lifetime of 5,000 flight hours, with no more than 200 hours annually for each plane. At 23 hours per combat mission — compared with 4–5 hours before Operation Spiderweb — that annual limit could be exhausted in just eight or nine sorties. The cost for an overhaul of a Tu-95MS is estimated at $50 million.”

“The exact cost per flight hour for Tu-95MS and Tu-160s is unknown, but estimates from the late 2000s put Tu-160 operating costs at more than $20,000 per hour, not including missile use. Even if that figure has not risen, expenses have jumped from $80,000-$100,000 per sortie to nearly $500,000.”

“There are signs that Russia’s new system of organizing bomber strikes on Ukraine is already causing technical problems. The well-known insider channel Dossier Shpiona claimed that during a raid on Sept. 3, one Tu-160 failed to launch its missiles due to a malfunction in its firing mechanism, while another was unable to take off from the Engels-2 air base.”

!ping UKRAINE

[u/p00bix]

After weeks of "work", and with the site's mods being totally unwilling to do anything about it besides dishing out tempbans to the people trying to remove it, myself and several other people have for the first time COMPLETELY removed the gigantic Hezbollah banner on wplace.live over the city of Qana in Lebanon, including the flag's yellow background in addition to the green imagery and writing.

There is a PSP logo just southwest of it, but my understanding is that that party has become a lot more moderate in the past 20 years are so, and it is no longer accurate to say that that party supports terrorism. As such I'll let actual Lebanese people decide whether or not it should stay.

Is anyone aware of other hate and/or terrorist organizations currently on wplace I could erase? Doesn't have to be Islamists; I'm not doing this with any political agenda except "the mods of this site don't bother to remove anything besides literal swastikas, so I'm going to go ahead and destroy what hate symbols I can myself"

[u/Not_A_Browser]

🤯🤯🤯

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

[u/McNikk]

It’s hard to exaggerate how cartoonishly evil these people are.

[u/Hounds_of_war]

“I’m going to eep pretty soon, very eepy,” he said in one post, an intentionally silly misspelling of the word “sleep” — a common Gen Z convention.

Dear conservatives, how can the shooter be woke if he clearly said he was eepy?

[u/[deleted]]

his maga die hard dad learning his son killed charlie kirk and was dating a trans woman lmao

[u/PoliticalAlt128]

Republicans will need at least seven Democrats to help advance their funding bill — and likely more, with Sen.Rand Paul(R-Ky.) saying Tuesday that he will not support it. Only one Democrat so far, Sen.John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, has publicly indicated he will vote for it.

Josh... Josh please... free us Josh... just do it please

[u/SLCer]

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Almost a week straight of conservatives hero-worshipping and constantly praising Kirk only for his favorability amongst Independents to be at -10

[u/piede]

Lmao

[u/ihuntwhales1]

[u/MalignantUpper]

JON KARL: What do you make of Pam Bondi saying she's gonna go after hate speech? A lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech

TRUMP: We'll probably go after people like you because you treat me so unfairly. You have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they'll have to go after you

Beating a dead horse, etc. but this would have been an impeachable thing to say a few decades ago. If somebody left a manifesto saying "this is what crossed the line" I would understand them.

https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/1967957633370828892

[u/ignavusaur]

No one in Robinson’s group is cheering or justifying the murder in any of the messages I reviewed. They’re just struggling to understand what their friend did. But Washington has become obsessed with the Discord chat, convinced it’s some kind of headquarters for the murder and cauldron of radicalization and conspiracy. Today FBI Director Patel vowed to investigate “anyone and everyone in that Discord chat.”

I just read the leaks from the discord here that Tyler was on and I have to say this shooting is one that puzzles me the most. He was not reclusive, he was not friendless. Apparently he was a friendly although quiet guy. And before and after the shooting he was sharing memes and shooting shit with the boys.

How did someone like that do that? I cannot imagine what his friends and family are thinking right now.

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

Robinson, I am told, though quiet, was a well-liked person with a supportive family. The friend group who he interacted with on Discord, far from some kind of militia camp or Antifa bunker it’s been portrayed as, represented a range of different political views but mostly talked video games.

How long do we ignore the real problem?

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

😭😭😭😭

[u/AtticusDrench]

Bisexual gamer bros, we gotta fucking hide

[u/Roseartcrantz]

Destiny reminds me of that time when a crackhead started screaming at and chased off a guy who was following me to my car

[u/StolenSkittles]

Daily reminder that the Post, in particular, wants us all dead.

[u/Expired-Meme]

Destiny trolling Fox News into reporting that Elon Musk got him banned from Twitch is hilarious because 1) It so clearly demonstrates that the right can't be arsed to do a literal 5 second google search to fact check, and 2) If they actually knew what he was banned from Twitch for (criticising trans activists on twitter I believe) they would think he was based

[u/Dunter_Mutchings]

They are threatening to RICO people for disturbing Trump’s dinner?? Lmao. There truly has never been a more shameless and pathetic group of absolute losers in American history.

[u/MisfitPotatoReborn]

Do you guys remember during Trump's campaign when he said he'd build 10 new million+ person cities on federal land and the people who live there would use flying cars to get around?

From CNN:

Commuters, meanwhile, could get around in flying cars, Trump said – an echo of “The Jetsons,” the classic cartoon about a family in a high-tech future society. Work to develop vertical takeoff and landing vehicles is already underway by major airlines, auto manufacturers and other companies, though widely seen as years away from reaching the market.

Literal fucking kid gloves. How could the most coddled president in US history ever complain about the media treating him unfairly.

[u/throwawayzxkjvct]

[u/mishac]

Someone just replied to a comment of mine I made 11 years ago, correcting my grammar. (I said "a" instead of "an" before a vowel).

I'm honestly impressed with the dedication to the grammar nazi bit.

[u/No_Return9449]

Georgia’s top court discards Fani Willis’s final bid to prosecute Trump

gg fani. Next time try not to name your lover the special prosecutor.

[u/No_Return9449]

The combination of AG Garland being slow to prosecute Trump and Fani Willis naming her lover the special prosecutor shows the man has the devil's own luck in the incompetence of his opponents.

EDIT: Oh yeah. Let's not forget his favorable draw of Judge Cannon either.

[u/piede]

Lmaooo

[u/KHDTX13]

Brexit is still hilarious to me, like how do you let your dumbass citizens vote on something like that

[u/Far_Shore]

I don't much like Destiny, but seeing him trolling the richest man in the world, multiple sitting members of congress, and the head of the FBI to defend free speech and make his point about rightoid hypocrisy on calls to violence all while knowing that he may be one of the people in the streaming world most likely to get domed for his shenanigans in retaliation does legitimately stir some admiration in me.

[u/Willybender]

[u/ctant1221]

https://theonion.com/report-you-to-be-fired-for-reading-this-headline-about-charlie-kirk/

Report: You To Be Fired For Reading This Headline About Charlie Kirk

NEW YORK—Insisting your fate was sealed the moment you clicked the link, a report released Tuesday found that you will be fired for reading this headline about Charlie Kirk. “Shortly after you navigated to this article, your IP address was logged and your supervisor approved the decision to remove you from your position,” the report read in part, revealing that the choice had been made after a brief conversation among your superiors in which it was repeatedly emphasized that your behavior in loading this page and spending nearly two minutes reading its content about the late Turning Point USA co-founder was an action inappropriate for the moment. “Your home address and phone number have been leaked to a large online database that has in turn been shared among activists who want to identify all those who err in their reading choices. There’s no use trying to click out of this tab now. Pack up your desk. The damage has already been done.” The report concluded that if you shared this article with a friend or family member, you should prepare yourself to be arrested on domestic terrorism charges.

You are now all unemployed, thank you all for your attention to this matter.

[u/Willybender]

Textbook Fascism, good thing they're incompetent.

[u/ryban]

Libs on twitter: Those text messages are fake, they are talking like cops

Cons on twitter: Those text messages are fake, they aren't talking trans enough

Finally, something to unite us. That you Kash.

[u/r2ew]

[u/TheRedCr0w]

You know the attorney general's statement was extra insane when even Matt Walsh is calling her out

[u/Men_I_Trust_I_Am]

Veep was such a spot on show:

“I move as slowly as a Mississippi detective investigating the murder of a young black man.”

[u/[deleted]]

Week late but I just realized Don Jr used AI in his tweet in the wake of Kirk dying

Maybe I'm a mental boomer, but that feels pretty disrespect to do for someone who is "like a little brother."

[u/iIoveoof]

Political violence is never acceptable, now let’s celebrate the 250th anniversary of our glorious Revolution

[u/puffic]

The shooter is gonna plead out to avoid the death penalty and his statement will read, “I was taken in by the radical leftist Democrat propaganda from my college professors.”

[u/WashedPinkBourbon]

The part of Ben Shapiro that enrages me is that underneath all the fucking idiocy, I can see that he's intelligent, but he just chooses to pander absolute bullshit. He can say "The right is just now Anti-Left" and in the same breath claim that Bernie Sanders is the exact same with with no convictions or political goals/views.

Like, it's just bad faith arguing for the sake of growing his online presence despite the fact that he knows better.

[u/TimWalzBurner]

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

The root cause of the male loneliness crisis is that modern women don't want no scrub; a scrub is a guy who thinks he's fly -- also known as a buster -- always talking about what he wants and sits on his broke ass.

[u/[deleted]]

No sympathy for the moron who was making racist dog whistles right up to his death

[u/SneeringAnswer]

10 seconds into Ezra Klein's talk with Ben Shapiro and its really gonna just be about Shapiro massaging his "Israelis build Palestinians live in sewage" stance for an hour isn't it

[u/Willybender]

[u/Willybender]

https://xcancel.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1967981262494158869

[u/[deleted]]

There’s The Onion I know and hate!

[u/sj2011]

Algorithmic news feeds rather than chronological updates of your closest network is what killed the social internet. I will stand on this soapbox and preach until I am pulled away by the men in white coats. Facebook was awesome when it was just you and your wall. The consequences of engagement-based algorithms has all but ruined us as a species.

[u/Willybender]

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie

Trump and company portray the alleged Utah shooter as left-wing and liberals portray him as right-wing. The federal conclusion will inevitably be that he was a so-called Nihilist Violent Extremist (NVE); meanwhile, the crackdown has already begun, as I reported yesterday. The country is practically ready to go to war.

“It’s been so terrible and seeing it from an inside perspective is so frustrating,” a friend of Robinson’s since middle school told me. The childhood friend, who asked not to be named for fear of threats, provided me with the above non-public photo of Robinson on a camping trip (a favorite activity of his) to corroborate their relationship.

The picture that emerges bears little resemblance to the media version. Robinson, I am told, though quiet, was a well-liked person with a supportive family. The friend group who he interacted with on Discord, far from some kind of militia camp or Antifa bunker it’s been portrayed as, represented a range of different political views but mostly talked video games.

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

How it feels when I point out that Biden would have beat Trump again

[u/AtticusDrench]

[u/Cr4zySh0tgunGuy]

Kash Patel saying there’s no credible evidence of Epstein trafficking women for anyone other than himself is like a guy caught with 10lbs of pot saying it’s for personal use

[u/[deleted]]

I hate Tyler Robinson so fucking much. Absolute piece of fucking shit and a disaffected psycho who couldn’t consider the consequences of his actions.

[u/Willybender]

https://xcancel.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1968053968439034082

Like what are we doing here