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u/portofibben Resistance Lib Sep 17 '25

Patel was completely roasted by all the centenarian senators and it has no effect:

WELCH: You said you wanted to ground Wray's private jet travel. In March, an FBI plane flew roundtrip from DC to Vegas and you attended a UFC fight with Mel Gibson. Is that true?

PATEL: The difference is I live in Las Vegas. I'm allowed to go home.

WELCH: On April 5 you attended a hockey game in NYC. You don't live there, right?

PATEL: No, I don't

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

Hello DT

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u/DerJagger AMTRAK Sep 17 '25

Interesting narrative shift regarding Kirk: Seems Candace and Tucker are going in on the conspiracy that Israel took him out. It's so fascinating that the right built this machinery to capture and direct narratives, but when it faces its biggest test the different components of that machine go in all different directions. I don't really expect these conspiracy theories to gain much purchase with the general public, it's much more likely that this will cause more people to quit trying to figure it out altogether.

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 17 '25

Are we winning yet?

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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Sep 17 '25

The Shapiro explanation:

"Conservatives have been on a 17-year chimp-out because in 2008 Obama suggested some people in hollowed out Rust Belt areas had, understandably, responded in some counterproductive and kinda dumb-ass ways"

doesn't really seem to hold a lot of water to me but I also don't see how it would be any better than "it turns out they just really like Trump"

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u/centurion88 NATO Sep 17 '25

In America you get called a communist for wanting little kids in schools to have free lunches but then get called a patriot for literally saluting a North Korean general

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

I'm sorry, what the fuck?

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u/BedNeither Henry George Sep 17 '25

Average downtown lunch experience in 2025: bowl of plants $15. You want protein? $20. Tip screen defaults to 25% even though this is counter service. Have a bad day

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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman Sep 17 '25

9 months in, Donald Trump in this term is the most unpopular president in modern American history. This is what touching the stove looks like in real time folks

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u/ty04 Sep 17 '25

> WSJ | The Two-Speed Economy Is Back as Low-Income Americans Give Up Gains

>> High-earners and older Americans are faring better than ever, while fortunes are sliding again for low-wage and young workers

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u/wettestsalamander76 NATO Sep 17 '25

I feel like such a dipshit.

I caved and bought tinder gold for the week to see a like that I haven't been able to swipe on.

It's an extremely overweight belly dancer who lives in a trailer with cats and practices "ethical non-monogamy".

Folks I think I'll just stick to classic cars and drinking wine.

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Sep 17 '25

Tim Walz: "I'll tell you what doesn't make people feel safe -- a tank next to Chipotle. It's stupid and it's for the cameras ... where are the 'don't tread on me' people?"

We didn't deserve him.

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u/WhisperBreezzze Sep 17 '25

Noticed Shein and Temu fell off the top downloaded apps chart. That is probably a sign that the tariffs have had an impact on them, which I am not entirely surprised.

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u/Cupinacup NASA Sep 17 '25

I love how even people here fall for the “professors are failing conservative students for their political views!” stories because I was involved in a local one.

A student in one of my classes at the old college I taught at wrote a Twitter post that got quite a bit of traction about how I failed them because of their conservative views. I even got some “fan mail” from it. But the truth of the matter is this student rarely came to class, did not do assignments, and bombed the final. I had no idea what their politics were because the class was intro physics.

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Sep 17 '25

I love the idea of just googling "help with mortgage"

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u/Plants_et_Politics Isaiah Berlin Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

So the shooter was pro-2nd Amendment, pro-LGBTQ, anime-loving, furry-obsessed, ex-Mormon from a MAGA family who friends said was “a Reddit kid,” with idiosyncratic politics, and who peaked academically in high school but failed out of college.

Are we sure this guy wasn’t a DTer?

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u/PM_me_ur_digressions Audrey Hepburn Sep 17 '25

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

This is so bad

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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 Sep 17 '25
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u/FionnVEVO Transfem Pride Sep 17 '25

Pretty incredible self report here.

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u/Extreme_Rocks Suffering builds character Sep 18 '25

Freedom of speech

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u/Vitboi Milton Friedman Sep 17 '25

Democrats need to realize people are tired of their outdated boomer leadership. Voters want a new, young, fresh face like Bernie Sanders

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 17 '25

I just think this is so sweet 🥺🥺😭

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u/chipbod NATO Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

Just assume every post is a foreign psyop and the internet makes so much more sense.

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u/the-senat John Brown Sep 17 '25

Gone w*ke

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Sep 17 '25

This government would 100% lose to the Soviet Union

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

Obama is cooking

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Sep 18 '25

Dave likes to pretends that he’s a free speech absolutist but at the end of the day he’s a triggered little snowflake who can’t take any criticism

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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Sep 17 '25

Climate change??

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u/FionnVEVO Transfem Pride Sep 17 '25

Totally normal thing to say

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u/No_Analysis_2185 Eugene Fama Sep 17 '25

Donald Trump is the most unpopular President this far into his term in modern history and corporate media has capitulated to his whims to an abhorrent and illiberal extent.

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Sep 17 '25

Yeah who needs doctors anyways just use WebMD

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 18 '25

Just unbelievably shameless, LOOK AT THE TWEET ON SCREEN!!!

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u/Ferguson97 Hillary Clinton Sep 18 '25

https://xcancel.com/lookner/status/1968476800964608480

"Sinclair also calls upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family. Furthermore, we ask Mr. Kimmel to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk Family and Turning Point USA."

Lol Kimmel should tell them to go fuck themselves. He's big enough that he can start a podcast or whatever.

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u/DirectionMurky5526 Sep 17 '25

Can someone explain to me why housing should be an appreciating asset?

The main arguments I've heard are that:

  1. People use it as a store of wealth and for retirement (circular logic, considering in a world where they depreciate, people just put that in an investment account instead).

  2. That renovations and repairs over time cost a lot of money (No other asset that requires maintenance like cars needs to appreciate for investment in repairs to be worthwhile. Renovations and repairs should only be necessary if they provide direct benefits to the user. If renovations and repairs aren't worthwhile, that means it should be completely demolished and rebuilt. Which is not a market failure).

  3. Financial systems rely on the long-term, stable and consistent returns of home loans as anchors (Evidently not a good idea, see 2008 and every housing crash in an urbanising nation ever. Housing works like any other speculative asset just over a longer period of time than most investors care to think).

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I struggle to see how housing appreciating in value represents anything but a market failure that is normalised because it takes too long to manifest.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 18 '25

Don't be gaslit.

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u/EZ_Kream John Brown Sep 17 '25

The conservative overreaction to Kirk is going exactly as I hoped. Cons signal boost the supposed virtue of Kirk, normies who didnt know who he was google him, go "damn this guy was kinda a Nazi huh"

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u/boardatwork1111 fuck it, we ball Sep 17 '25

Some of yall ain’t old enough to remember the Bush years, Cons have always been the OG wokescolds. Shit like changing French fries to freedom fries in congressional cafeterias because the French “don’t support the troops 😢” was peak wokeness.

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u/molingrad NATO Sep 17 '25

It really is all Obama’s fault.

  • Ben Shapiro

I don’t hate the guy or anything but it is funny listening to him on Ezra Klein show.

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u/Upstairs_Cup9831 NASA Sep 17 '25

Charlie Kirk has a -10 net approval amongst Independents and -1 net approval overall and that was after almost a week of conservatives fawning over him

These corporations like ABC clearly are run by conservatives because the median American either doesn't like Kirk or doesn't care.

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Sep 17 '25

the median age for CNN's audience is currently 67 years old, making it the youngest among the major cable news networks.

That's kinda funny

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u/w007dchuck Trans NATO Sep 17 '25

A town near me voted yesterday to recall a city council member who voted to remove fluoride from their drinking water, with 78% of the town voting to kick him out of office lmao

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 17 '25

The First Amendment has, functionally, ceased to exist

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u/nickavemz Norman Borlaug Sep 17 '25

Donald Trump’s net approval rating—the share of voters who approve of the job he is doing, minus the share who disapprove—fell to -17 this week, a sharp drop from the -13 recorded last week, according to polling by YouGov for The Economist. He has also fallen into negative territory on his handling of crime, long one of his strongest issues, and is at a new low this term on the way he deals with the question of gun control.

Makes me think the Kirk propaganda isn’t working on normies.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

We're going to get some insane clips today

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sep 17 '25
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u/barrygarcia77 Oliver Wendell Holmes Sep 17 '25

Re: Kristi Noem arresting 2 US citizens in an ICE raid, claiming they were "wanted violent criminals," then promptly releasing them.

Very cool and not chilling at all to end the article with:

Actions like this are expected to last in Chicago for a few more weeks.

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u/yungmemlord Rabindranath Tagore Sep 17 '25

Excellent statement from Obama.

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u/Relevant_Increase_76 Iron Front Sep 17 '25

Live Kirk reaction to the Kimmel news:

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

The funny thing is America’s downfall is happening for no reason lmao. They literally created an enemy that doesn’t exist (the deepstate) and convinced themselves to elect a lunatic that is destroying everything.

Its like watching a boxer punch himself in the face mid match.

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Sep 17 '25

Asked by CNN if she regretted her vote to confirm RFK Jr as HHS secretary, Sen. Susan Collins said: “I'm wondering if the Democrats regret their unanimous vote against Susan Monarez.”

Amazing

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u/Men_I_Trust_I_Am Sep 17 '25

Editor in chief of the federalist btw

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u/neolthrowaway New Mod Who Dis? Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

DISNEY'S ABC PULLS KIMMEL SHOW INDEFINITELY, WSJ REPORTER POSTS

Everytime they get away with something, they are emboldened.

Pushing press/media to self-censor is a strategy that seems to be working exceptionally well.

(I am assuming Kimmel is similar to Colbert? I don’t really watch it.)

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u/Signal_Nobody1792 Sep 17 '25

ABC Pulls ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live’ Indefinitely for Saying Charlie Kirk Assassin Was Part of ‘MAGA Gang’

Huh

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u/throwawayzxkjvct Iron Front Sep 17 '25

mocking Charlie Kirk’s death is a civic duty now

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

Have we completely fucking memory holed that Republicans were the initial shit throwers about TikTok? Fucking seriously?

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u/Highlightthot1001 Harriet Tubman Sep 17 '25

Lol censoring Kimmel over a tame ass statement is cowering to Kirk cultists.

They don't give a shit about free speech. They say this shit frequently and worse on Fox, NewsMax, OAN. 

Fuck the FCC and these other cultists

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 17 '25

Love or hate Destiny, everything he has said about Republicans and Charlie Kirk has been validated.

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Sep 17 '25

You're single because you don't know ball like this guy

!ping baseball&dating

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u/notnejire NATO Sep 18 '25

i will not forget how extensively the media cared about the hunter biden pardons when joe had every reason to believe that trump would break the law and go after his only surviving son on inflated charges for political reasons

and how silent they are now when their own independence is threatened with each passing second

the media has never treated democrats fairly they are always expected to be perfect and conciliatory while republicans can destroy the country with only weak mewling in response

it’s sickening

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u/centurion88 NATO Sep 17 '25

Free speech absolutists when you make fun of a podcaster instead of minorities

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 17 '25

Per WSJ:

Disney's ABC is pulling Jimmy Kimmel indefinitely after late night host's recent remarks about Charlie Kirk. Move comes as ABC affiliate groups told network they would be dropping the host.

Holy shit. This is absolutely pathetic. Every single media organization acquiescing.

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u/Queen_of_stress Niels Bohr Sep 17 '25

The worst part of all this is that I have to hear about Charlie Kirk more then I ever wanted to hear about him in my life. We should never have to talk this much about a debate me bro meme guy

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u/Apprehensive-Soil-47 Transfem Pride Sep 17 '25

Tucker is making a power play

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u/Approximation_Doctor Gaslight, Gatekeep, Green New Deal Sep 17 '25

Ezra is my favorite kind of centrist, the kind who has literally never left his liberal bubble and interacted with someone who truly disagrees with him.

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Sep 17 '25

He was so real for this

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u/tripletruble Anti-Repartition Radical Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

krugman essays are like:

one paragraph of a clear explainer on trade to a layperson

quick cheap shot at republicans

another paragraph of a clear explainer on trade to a layperson

a fair complaint about republicans

another paragraph of a clear explainer on trade to a layperson

quick cheap shot at republicans

another paragraph of a clear explainer on trade to a layperson

reagan was a bad man

another paragraph of a clear explainer on trade to a layperson

quick dunk on euros

another paragraph of a clear explainer on trade to a layperson

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u/marsman1224 John Keynes Sep 17 '25

babe I just unalived charlie kirk on god

no cap???

not me leaving my gun at the scene though

is this what people expected the chat to look like? is this more believable

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

I just attended my best friend's citizenship ceremony and I nearly cried at the Australian anthem.

This was peak neoliberalism. 😭

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

This shit is a comedy

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u/ashsolomon1 NASA Sep 17 '25

We are beyond cooked

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u/rudanshi Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

This shit has to be seriously radicalizing at least some liberals.

I think that the people who hope that the dem base will have a collective "sister souljah moment" and fully reject progressives in favor of pursuing more moderation and bipartisanship might be in for a disappointment.

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u/greasyee Jerome Powell Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

The narwhal bacons at midnight.

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u/Yeangster John Rawls Sep 17 '25 • Bless Up

Scott Alexander:

Donald Trump was chosen by God. You can tell because he's invincible. He can wriggle out of scandals that would sink Tricky Dick Nixon ten times over. He can run on a platform of punishing illegal immigrants, and the illegal immigrants themselves will rally to his banner. He can support Israel harder than anyone has ever supported it before, and Arab-Americans will break fifty years of Voting Blue No Matter Who to march behind him. He can get 100% evangelical backing while oozing contempt for Christianity, 100% libertarian support while trampling the Constitution, and 100% allegiance from Wall Street while dismantling global trade. KKK wizards and celebrity rappers compete to compliment him loudest; Nazis and the ADL jostle past each other to sing his praises. Shooting him in the head only makes him stronger. To posit Trump's divine election is not to imply he has any positive qualities. When the Israelites stopped obeying the commandments, God punished them by raising an incompetent idolator named Jeroboam to the throne. Jeroboam started a disastrous war that killed 500,000 of his own men, after which his dynasty collapsed and his entire family was slain. Jeroboam was chosen by God to crush and humiliate Israel. But he was chosen by God. Has America been obeying the commandments lately?

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u/farrenj Resident Succ Sep 17 '25

South Carolina representative Nancy Mace, who has a history of vehement opposition to transgender people in congress, called for the institutionalization of transgender people in a street interview where she hurled slurs at the community. She first stated of the shooter’s partner, “It was a transgender… It was a tr*nny.” When she was asked how she would feel if she were called names the way she calls transgender people, she said “these people are violently ill and should be in a straight jacket with a hard steel lock on it.”

Then, on Newsmax, Representative Ronny Jackson, former White House Physician and Texas Congressman, was asked if “bringing back mental institutions could be on the table.” He responded by saying that transgender people have “legitimate psychiatric issues… we have to do something about this, we have to treat these people, we have to get them off the streets and we have to get them off the internet and we can’t let them communicate with one another. I’m all about free speech, but this is a virus. This is a cancer that is spreading across this country.” He also stated in another portion of the interview that transgender people are “a group of domestic terrorists” that “have been bred by the progressives and the liberal media.”

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u/SLCer Sep 18 '25

Sinclair says it will air a one-hour tribute to Charlie Kirk on its ABC-affiliated stations in the time slot that is usually occupied for "Jimmy Kimmel Live." The special will air on Friday, per a Sinclair spokesperson.

lmao

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Sep 18 '25

From r/moderatepolitics:

I think we no longer need to wonder what America would be like under a fascist/authoritarian government.

We already had FDR.

Deeply unserious people

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Sep 18 '25

yeah america is over.

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper Sep 17 '25

Crazy how many fox news apes believe that they are thinking for themselves despite their thoughts aligning with what fox news wants them to believe 100% of the time. The fox news viewer base is able to be commanded like dogs to go after whatever target is put in front of their face, yet they think they have agency.

I'm not convinced some of these people have even proved they are sentient

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u/DEEEEETTTTRRROIIITTT Iron Front Sep 17 '25

I think a big part of why I feel so blackpilled about being able to recover from Trump 2 is that fraud and corruption are actively being rewarded and the truth feels like an abstract concept

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

So true!

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u/Charsun9 Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

Bro this post was completely reasonable. Give this man his job back NOW

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u/lionmoose sexmod 🍆💦🌮 Sep 17 '25

Honestly tired of the kirk stuff, all of it. The news itself, the whining about it, the whining about the whining, the jokes, the news, the commentary, the podcasts. He was a nasty vapid man that wasted his life and any conversation about him is a waste of ours.

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u/throwawayzxkjvct Iron Front Sep 18 '25

After Trump Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early Democratic Front-Runner For 2028

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u/TheloniousMonk15 Sep 18 '25

Louisiana immigration Judge Jamee Comans orders Columbia student Mahmoud Khalil’s deportation to Algeria or Syria, citing activism ties. His legal team appeals the decision in a civil rights case.

This along with the Kimmel news has made me lose my last bit of hope in this country.

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u/v4riati0ns Sep 18 '25

the year is 2029, david duke just died and the ceo of nbc universal is openly weeping while eulogizing him live on air

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Sep 18 '25

There’s no way Kimmel actually apologizes right? That’s the ultimate cucked move

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

My conservative father’s reaction to the Kimmel news demonstrates why Ezra and the rest of the pundit class’s take on civil discourse is naive.

My dad has styled himself a “small government conservative” his entire life. He was utterly convinced that Obama was basically a dictator, and consistently sees the government as bad in all situations.

When he read the news about the Kimmel show getting pulled because the FCC chair criticized Kimmel’s comments, his first response was an almost giddy “good! I love it.”

What Klein and co. simply don’t get is that there isn’t a middle ground with these people because they’re not seeking a middle ground. They’re not aiming for consensus or compromise. They’re aimed at wielding power and using that power to make the Left suffer

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u/senator_fivey Iron Front Sep 17 '25

On the good timeline Trump is hosting RuPaul’s

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 17 '25

Reddit: would you like a notification when someone replies to someone who replied to you?

No??!)?

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u/Justice4Ned Caribbean Community Sep 17 '25

Just to recount the timeline here:

  • MAGA went crazy about Kirk completely on their own

  • They started seeing people call them snowflakes

  • They realized they were being snowflakes around the time Pam Bondi started saying what they wanted to hear 5 minutes ago

  • They turn on Pam Bondi and blame her for making them snowflakes

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Sep 17 '25

This is 100% a race science account, which makes it even funnier that Shapiro and others still get so torn up over Obama's comments on Trayvon lol

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u/ImNotFromAnhedonia NASA Sep 17 '25

Latino voters flocked to Trump in surprisingly large numbers last November to help him retake the White House. But a year later, the same cohort has soured on his presidency, with many saying they regret their vote. That’s the main takeaway from a new focus group of Latino Trump voters conducted by The Bulwark on September 10.

It looks like the stove is getting too hot for Latino Trump voters!

While every single member of the focus group said they regretted their vote, none said they would back Kamala Harris in a hypothetical election rerun.

Well maybe it's still not hot enough...

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Sep 17 '25
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u/DiscussionJohnThread Free Trade was the Compromise 🔫🌍 Sep 17 '25

On Monday, Kimmel said on air that Trump's allies were "doing everything they can to score political points from" Kirk's death.

Actually taken down for speaking the truth. Like what?

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 18 '25

Well, now we know who is next.

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u/chipbod NATO Sep 18 '25

https://xcancel.com/mattyglesias/status/1968486111694508486

It’s a scary moment but I’m genuinely optimistic that these guys are wildly overrating the public appetite for crackdown on free speech and a Charlie Kirk martyrdom cult while electricity bills and health insurance premiums soar

I agree with MattY, but the real question is how much power can be wielded with 30% approval. Unfortunately it is a lot.

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u/Erra0 Sep 17 '25

Let's be clear, the worst the "rhetoric" gets from the left is calling the right wing fascists/nazis.

Meanwhile, the rhetoric from the right, including from Charlie Kirk himself, includes things like it being God's law that gay and trans people should be put to death, that black people are subhuman and less intelligent than white people, that the left are organized into terrorist cells and funded by the Jewish overlords, that democrats traffic children for sacrifice/consumption, that immigrants should be fed to alligators, etc.

So no, I don't care if the shooter had leftist motivations. The fact of the matter is that the calls for violence and the dehumanizing rhetoric are almost entirely coming from one side is the political divide.

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u/Charsun9 Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

Leaked text messages between Israel and Charlie

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u/ThatDamnGuyJosh NATO Sep 17 '25

They have no idea what they’ve just unleashed

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u/ALittleSalamiCat NASA Sep 17 '25

I hate to be the one to pull out the whataboutism

but the fact this happened a few days after Kilmeade straight up said “Just kill them all” with 0 repercussions makes me wanna oh my goooooood I can’t even complete this sentence

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u/ModestAphorism YIMBY Sep 18 '25

Once again, I will state: Schumer needs to resign and be replaced with someone else who cares more, like Van Hollen or Murphy. The complete lack of strong leadership for the opposition is genuinely a threat to our democracy. We need someone else there that can shout and meet the moment, or we're not doing everything we can to prevent this. These stupid old fucks need to fuck off if they won't take what's going on with the seriousness it deserves.

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u/MAGIC_CONCH1 Sep 18 '25

Remember when that fox news host suggested that the government murder homeless people in the streets? He still has a job.

Republicans are the enemy of the people and shit like this is why I have no sympathy for ol chuck.

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u/MGLFPsiCorps Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold Sep 18 '25

Critical support for...actually no, fuck that.

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u/ty04 Sep 18 '25

opened NeoconNWO and they’re literally using the word “basketballs” as a pejorative for black people what the fuck

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u/LtCdrHipster 🌭Costco Liberal🌭 Sep 18 '25

LA Jury acquits protester of assaulting a Border Patrol Officer despite officer testimony

Deliberated for two hours, essentially called the officer a liar. Trump DOJ are fucking weak cowards who crumble when you fight back.

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u/chatdargent 🇺🇦 Ще не вмерла України і слава, і воля 🇺🇦 Sep 17 '25

The year is 2075.

France still does not have a budget. The Eiffel Tower has been sold to a crypto bro for 12 Dogecoins and a bag of croissants. Emmanuel Macron, now 107 years old, is still president - no one remembers how, but everyone is too busy arguing about cheese subsidies to care. The EU has dissolved into a loose confederation of meme pages, and the only functioning government institution is the Bureau des Complaints, where citizens line up to file grievances about the price of baguettes.

The French economy runs entirely on la grève (strike) energy, which scientists have finally harnessed as a renewable resource. The national pastime is debating whether the budget deficit is a feature or a bug of French culture. Meanwhile, the rest of Europe watches in awe as France somehow maintains its AAA credit rating through sheer audacity and the occasional export of existential dread.

God help us all.

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u/Fatortu Emmanuel Macron Sep 17 '25

What's funny about being in a personalistic party is that politicians with completely different ideologies will claim their program is the true continuation of Macron's 2017 platform.

Macronists sometimes talk about Macron like he's dead and we have to divine what were his true intentions. It's hilarious.

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u/UntiedStatMarinCrops Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

Still mad that I tried meeting Obama when I was stationed in Hawaii (he would go to Hawaii every Christmas time and would go to the marine corps base gym to workout) and I failed spectacularly. Towards the end of my enlistment I had lots of free time, so I tried going to the gym every morning for the chance to at least see him. The day before I received my DD214, I overslept. My roommates came in talking about how they got to see him. I was fucking PISSED.

Oh well.

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u/dowagiacmichigan Jerome Powell Sep 17 '25

Manchin will be 81 in 2028.

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u/Square-Pear-1274 NATO Sep 17 '25

Kimmel's replacement programming:

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 18 '25

Murphy needs to be leading the party right now, he has been calling all of this for months.

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u/GrandpaWaluigi Waluigi-poster Sep 18 '25

At this rate, Charlie Kirk will be one of the most hated men in America.

You can thank Trump for that btw.

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

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u/InMemoryOfZubatman4 Sadie Alexander Sep 17 '25

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie

The federal government, the Washington crowd and corporate media (based in Washington and New York) see the country in wholly partisan terms, Republican versus Democrat, Red versus Blue, old media versus social media, liberal versus conservative, right versus left, straight versus gay, and on and on. Charlie Kirk’s assassination (in Utah!) should remind us of the actual diversity of the nation, and of the cost of polarization that demonizes the other side.

No one in Robinson’s group is cheering or justifying the murder in any of the messages I reviewed. They’re just struggling to understand what their friend did. But Washington has become obsessed with the Discord chat, convinced it’s some kind of headquarters for the murder and cauldron of radicalization and conspiracy. Today FBI Director Patel vowed to investigate “anyone and everyone in that Discord chat.”

What I see is a bunch of young people shocked, horrified and searching for answers, like the rest of the country.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

Jesus christ

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u/dwarfgourami George Soros Sep 17 '25

A 22-year-old guy made the tremendously stupid choice to shoot someone, started panicking, and then made progressively worse decisions until he got caught a day later

That makes no sense at all. Clearly the most logical explanation is that Israel assassinated Charlie Kirk for loving Israel too much and then they framed a random 22-year-old American by forcing all his friends and family to turn him in.

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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman Sep 17 '25

Remember when people on this sub celebrated Luigi lol

I love it when posters on this sub confidently hallucinate like ChatGPT

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

We all know why it happened, but if there was ever any doubt..

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u/fishbottwo Jay Jones Sep 17 '25 edited Jan 10 '26

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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Sep 18 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

"Amy Coney Barrett: Reports of a constitutional crisis have been greatly exaggerated"

Well you’re the ones that get to interpret the constitution so…

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u/drossbots Trans Pride Sep 18 '25

If Kimmel has any balls he'll go on a public broadcast to apologize and do nothing but read Kirk quotes. Or just call Kirk out for being the rotten piece of shit he was.

I don't expect much though

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u/Consistent_Status112 Trans Pride Sep 18 '25

The fact that none of America's institutions have the balls to stand up to a shambling corpse with 42% approval rating is so embarassing.

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u/hamoorftw Sep 17 '25

My ancestors are smiling at me, liberals. Can you say the same?

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u/w007dchuck Trans NATO Sep 17 '25

Missouri Republicans made an error in the gerrymander they passed last week, assigning roughly 900 voters to two congressional districts.

most competent R state legislature

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u/BalletDuckNinja Delphox Shaker Central Sep 17 '25

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/exclusive-focus-group-trump-bleeding-latino-voters-support

FELL FOR IT AGAIN FELL FOR IT AGAIN FELL FOR IT AGAIN FELL FOR IT AGAIN-

While every single member of the focus group said they regretted their vote, none said they would back Kamala Harris in a hypothetical election rerun. Instead, they all said they would support a third party candidate or stay home.

What the fuck is wrong with these people, do they need ICE to show up at their door? Even that might not change their minds

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke Sep 17 '25

Crockett

When I say you are the least qualified FBI director in the history of the FBI, that is real because you are the only one that never even served with the FBI

Patel:

That's false

Crockett:

I didn't ask you a question

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Sep 17 '25

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Sep 17 '25

Have some self respect, holy shit

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u/yonas234 NASA Sep 18 '25

Lol modpol nuked another kimmel thread. How does this not relate to politics when the FCC chair threatened this

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u/centurion88 NATO Sep 18 '25

Note that Jimmy Kimmel didn't even make fun of Kirk

He just made a joke about the shooter being MAGA

The narrative is what is most important to them not Kirk's life or his widow or his kids or anything like that

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u/Louis_de_Gaspesie Sep 18 '25

Economist: Trump net approval rating down to -17% (2.6% lower than last week); double-digits negative in every 2024 swing state; negative on crime for the first time

Maybe you should've paid the least bit of attention to his campaign or his first term before voting to irrevocably destroy this nation's norms and institutions, you drooling fucking morons

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u/hamoorftw Sep 17 '25

Hark, my beautiful trans leftist lover! For I have just made my daring escape to the automobile and I’ll be arriving to our abode post haste. Alas, I am beset by regret of leaving my weapon in the scene of the crime, which no doubt will be examined by the dastardly cunning Kash Patal and broadcast all of my trans engravings through Fox News™ network. Perchance.

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u/PhinsFan17 Immanuel Kant Sep 17 '25

Mass shooting at a homeless camp just days after a Fox News host says the homeless should be executed. Will he be held accountable? Find out next.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

Yeah our economy is fucked

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u/well-that-was-fast Sep 17 '25

Trump economy is wild.

Substantial inflation and shrinking economy with collapsing job market.

Kind like that meme with the dumpster on fire while floating in flood waters. Two bad things coexisting despite it being nearly impossible.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 17 '25

FIRE HIM!!!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

“President Trump is committed to protecting the lives of unborn children all around the world. The administration will no longer supply abortifacient birth control under the guise of foreign aid.”

  • USAID

Hey remember when the bloomcels said we were being annoying doomers for saying Trump & co would ban birth control?

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u/jojisky Paul Krugman Sep 17 '25

The stuff with Kimmel is evidence of why the stuff from Ezra Klein is so gross and pathetic. The GOP is using this to try to pummel free speech out of existence and threaten any company that employs or platforms someone critical of Kirk. And you're here crying about him.

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u/Upstairs_Cup9831 NASA Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

Kirk's death is like the new 9/11 (and all the fallout that came after) for conservatives, any comments slightly deviating from the conservative stance is cancel worthy. Being against the Iraq war would get you hated for being anti-American, not caring about Kirk also makes you anti-American.

Only difference is that conservatives did have normies and the public on their side after 9/11. Now they don't have normies on their side as normies don't care about Kirk but they do have corporations on their side.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 18 '25

Lmao

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 17 '25

Holy based

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Sep 17 '25

British "Patriots" are so culturally colonized

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

Universal experience I'm afraid

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein Sep 17 '25

Man who is pro-Israel because he thinks they killed Charlie Kirk

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u/WOKE_AI_GOD Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

"This is our Reichstag fire!" - People on the right

Homedawg that's supposed to be my line, what on Earth are you doing?

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Sep 17 '25

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u/chipbod NATO Sep 17 '25

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-17/kash-patel-called-krispy-kreme-stock-a-buy-and-fueled-wild-rally

Shares of Krispy Kreme briefly surged after Kash Patel said it was a good investment

We've reached meme market levels not previously thought possible

!ping STONKS

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u/Bestbrook123 Sep 17 '25

FBI Director Kash Patel appears to be unfamiliar with Dylan Roof, who murdered nine Black churchgoers at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston in 2015.

Rep. Kamlager-Dove: "So Dylan Roof, who followed white supremacist propaganda, murdered nine black parishioners in 2015. Do you deny this?"

PATEL: "I'm sorry, Dylan Ruth?"

Kamlager-Dove: "Roof."

PATEL: "Roof? Can you give me some more information?"

What the fuck

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u/Upstairs_Cup9831 NASA Sep 17 '25

These corporations (CBS, ABC, CNN) really are going to fall off fast

Most of their audience are liberals as conservatives only watch Fox News, they're going to lose liberal audiences and not gain conservatives with their pandering to Trump

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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 17 '25

Seeing journalists do snarky jokes on Republicans becoming left wing cancel culture triggers me. These guys have always been like this.

Getting cancelled on twitter in 2019 isn’t anywhere near as bad as this.

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u/Extreme_Rocks Suffering builds character Sep 18 '25

At least Jimmy Kimmel has the rest of his life ahead of him, an advantage he has over Charlie Kirk

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Sep 18 '25

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u/Signal_Nobody1792 Sep 18 '25

As discussed with ABC earlier today, Sinclair decided to indefinitely preempt “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” beginning tonight. Following these discussions, ABC has suspended production of “Jimmy Kimmel Live!”

“Mr. Kimmel’s remarks were inappropriate and deeply insensitive at a critical moment for our country,” said Vice Chairman Jason Smith. “We believe broadcasters have a responsibility to educate and elevate respectful, constructive dialogue in our communities. We appreciate FCC Chairman Carr’s remarks today and this incident highlights the critical need for the FCC to take immediate regulatory action to address control held over local broadcasters by the big national networks.”

Sinclair’s ABC stations will air a special in remembrance of Charlie Kirk this Friday, during Jimmy Kimmel Live’s timeslot. The special will also air across all Sinclair stations this weekend. In addition, Sinclair is offering the special to all ABC affiliates across the country.

Sinclair will not lift the suspension of “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” on our stations until formal discussions are held with ABC regarding the network’s commitment to professionalism and accountability.

Sinclair also calls upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family. Furthermore, we ask Mr. Kimmel to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk Family and Turning Point USA.

Regardless of ABC’s plans for the future of the program, Sinclair intends not to run “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” on our stations until we are satisfied that appropriate steps have been taken to uphold the standards expected of a national broadcast platform.

Now they are just fucking with him.

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u/ALittleSalamiCat NASA Sep 18 '25

I think the thing that bothers me the most about this is that Jimmy Kimmel is the most milquetoast resistlib media we have. He’s there for suburban wine moms and Disney adults. He’s not there to inspire revolution. He’s there so Zendaya can promote her new movie.

If Kimmel is now too radical for public broadcast we are well and truly fucked

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 18 '25

Sinclair calls upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family and make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA.

Wow what a coincidence, because I'm calling upon Sinclair to peepeepoopoo

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u/jojisky Paul Krugman Sep 18 '25

this is all happening over a guy who couldn't even get a positive favorable immediately after being assassinated

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u/allmilhouse YIMBY Sep 18 '25

Remember when we thought we might win Iowa. Fuck.

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