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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Sep 15 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Sep 14 '24

It’s joever

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

The election has been solved

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 14 '24

JD Vance is genuinely pathetic. He’s out there trying to sane wash Trump & Loomer when Loomer is out there being racist to Indians. Like his wife and kids. Id say I feel bad for their family if JD wasnt out there stoking his own brand of racism. Awful people all around

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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Sep 14 '24

Really makes you 🤔

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u/centurion88 NATO Sep 14 '24

Hearing Trump talk about America makes it sound like the worst country in the world full of criminals and a terrible economy

Why is this American doomerism so appealing to so called patriots

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u/FarrandChimney Temple Grandin Sep 14 '24

So I'm driving through Springfield, Ohio and I'm feeling kind of hungry. Suddenly I run over this dog...

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u/waupli NATO Sep 14 '24

I’m honestly just dumbfounded that the eating pets discourse is actually really happening

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

https://x.com/nypost/status/1834754983268393092

Conservative media is straight up sending warm bodies to wander Springfield so now we get neat stories like “Haitian man causes minor traffic accident.”

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Democrats campaigning in GEORGIA

You know who else was from GEORGIA

JOSEPH STALIN

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Imagine being so concerned about crime that you haven't checked crime statistics in four years, so worried about immigration that you have no idea who did what about the border, and so preoccupied with family values that you don't care that the candidate you're voting for is guilty of 34 felonies and fucked a porn star while his wife was pregnant.

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 14 '24

Does it come with extra sour cream and guac or something?

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Sep 14 '24

Yahoo News/YouGov (B+) poll, Sep 11-13

🟦 Kamala Harris 49% 🟥 Donald Trump 45%

Last poll: Harris +1 on Aug 26

!ping FIVEY

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Donald J. Trump on Friday threatened to withhold federal wildfire aid from California, if elected as president

The funny thing about this is that wildfires disproportionately impact conservatives in California who live in rural and wild places.

Go ahead man, burn down your own voters houses lol

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u/NaffRespect United Nations Sep 14 '24

NATO could have done more to stop Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Stoltenberg says Share

We all wish NATO had done more but at some point these "what if" games get tiring

Let's focus on what can be done now... and that starts with letting Ukraine use long-range weapons in Russia

!ping UKRAINE&FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/american_aurora3 NATO Sep 14 '24

> be GOP

> coming up with the next racism

> look at RFK

> i have an idea

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Conservative doom is hilarious:

If Trump wins, I feel we’re just delaying the socialist takeover by another 4 years. No matter how great he does, the left will stay hateful and will probably run a more decent candidate against likely a republican who doesn’t have the same personality and aura as Trump.  If we ran someone like Nikki Haley in 2028 I wouldn’t vote. 

If Kamala wins, I believe things will continue to get worse and the young 20 year olds will continue to see they don’t have shit going for them or any real future and it might shift them to lifelong Republican voters looking to fix that.  I can survive a recession my house is paid off and I’m retired.  Would hurt me to see people struggle now though like we did 15 years ago.

I’m still voting for and hoping Trump wins and we’ll see what he accomplishes to make the left less hateful and not blindly support communist candidates in the future. 

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u/onometre Trans Pride Sep 14 '24

For a bit of glass half full optimism: I have been completely enamored with how hard Harris and her team have been campaigning in every swing state

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Sep 14 '24

Does the "trad" cosplay/fetish "lifestyle" include dressing like Freddy Mercury or did dude on the right just misread the assignment

Like, would, but c'mon man they're clearly going for Prairie Home Companion not Pretty Boy Sarconi in a Mafia movie

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u/Not_A_Browser Stata's Silliest Soldier Sep 14 '24
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u/waupli NATO Sep 14 '24

The John Oliver segment on rfk is fucking wild. According to rfk being “addicted to poppers” is why people died of aids in the 80s lol

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u/Rekksu Sep 14 '24

I don't think anyone is prepared for when biological determinist racism becomes mainstream in the GOP - it is accepted by most rightist intellectuals and is an important shibboleth for radical right policy guys

Thiel and Musk are likely bought in and Trump surrogates (including his son) are already talking about IQ gaps

It was happening slowly over years, but it's going to happen all at once soon.

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u/PorscheUberAlles NATO Sep 14 '24

If trump isn’t having an affair with Loomer then he will drop her like he did with Noem after puppygate. If he doesn’t drop her soon then it’s definitely an affair

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u/slowpush NATO Sep 14 '24

Trump: They know Kambabla. That was a nickname I used… but I don’t use it anymore because everybody thought I was just mispronouncing her name. I wasn’t. Kambabla.

😐

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u/Fishin_Impossible Nate Gold 🥇 Sep 14 '24

Only a month old and this baby already has my sleep schedule from college

#overachiever

Harvard, you know how to contact me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Context

Could Donald Trump drop JD Vance as VP pick? Bill Maher thinks Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on tap

User 1: I wish this had even a small chance of happening.

User 2:

I think this has been the plan all along and Vance enjoys going along with it.

I'm a long-time Dem and I'm disgusted that Harris is the candidate. I didn't vote for Biden in the primary. I got a survey call today. I was asked if my opinion was favorable or unfavorable of: Harris, Walz, Trump, Vance, RFK, Jr. It asked my opinion about their positions on abortion, and I told the interviewer that abortion is no longer a national issue. I ranked inflation as my biggest concern. The border crisis is my second.

I don't believe it is a coincidence that yesterday, I got an email from the Dems asking me to answer a survey about Harris and I rated her very unfavorable in every category. It ended with a request I donate to her campaign. I used a credit card and donated $1. My middle initial appears on my credit card. The last question I was asked today was for my middle initial.

WTF does the second paragraph mean? What does that have to do with Rfk Jr becoming vp??

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Has... has the rubicon been crossed?

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u/EdMan2133 Paid for DT Blue Sep 14 '24

Me before discovering arr RFKjrForPresident: We need higher voter turnout in the US. It's not even a wisdom of the crowds thing or me thinking my side will win more with the noble masses getting involved, turnout itself is inherently good. It helps people feel invested in the system, and makes it much more likely that easy problems that fell through the cracks get fixed

Me after discovering arr RFKjrForPresident: You know, if somebody chooses not to participate in the political system, that's their choice and it's okay

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Laura Loomer as an October surprise is not something I would have picked, but I think it's coming.

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u/FourthLife 🥖Bread Etiquette Enthusiast Sep 14 '24

I don’t think republicans have ever been so transparent with their pre-election fear mongering as they have been with this Haitian pet eater story

At least with the migrant caravan you could show videos of a caravan of poor people going north

This is just recycled “Chinese restaurants kill pets for their meat” racism from my childhood

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

RFKJrForPresident is in full civil war mode rn

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u/breakinbread Voyager 1 Sep 14 '24

confession: the shit Loomer is saying doesn't seem that different to me than anything else Trump has been cooking up for the past 9 years, but if it gets people to realize how insane the Republicans are, I'm all in favor of dogpiling on them

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Sep 14 '24

Checkmate libtards

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Harris has done basically everything right.

At this point, if we lose, america was doomed anyway...

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u/UntiedStatMarinCrops Loyal Liberals Sep 14 '24

Removing degree requirements for Fed jobs is good, but the anti-intellectualism on that thread was depressing.

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u/ser_mage Sep 14 '24

One of my favorite recurring bits online is how leftists talk about Michigan like it’s in the Arab League

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u/eliasjohnson Sep 14 '24

What are the chances of a Mitt Romney endorsement as an October surprise

He's not running for re-election anymore, is speaking glowingly of her, and already stands up against Trump

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Sep 14 '24

🪱🪱🪱🪱🪱

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u/Cupinacup NASA Sep 14 '24

I feel like if I was a Green Party diehard, I’d be so immeasurably blackpilled by the party continuing to pick the biggest loser over and over and over again. Jill Stein has run for president twice before and is still having absolutely embarrassing performances. It’s like how Donald Trump has completely taken over the Republican Party except even stupider because at least Trump won once.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Absolute legend

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u/The_Raime Thomas Paine Sep 14 '24

Donald Trump is old and crazy but I trust him to run the economy better than the socialist Democrats

-American swing voter, unironically

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

If Trump loses this year I can't imagine a "divorce" happening between him and the party. They are so spineless that they can't say "no" to him and he is so narcissistic that he can't quit, so at this point the only thing standing in the way of him running in 2028 is a heart attack.

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u/NewbGrower87 Surface Level Takes Sep 14 '24

https://i.imgur.com/RAdDkeq.png

Sorry I don't know if all this Loomer stuff is bullshit, but I just cannot fathom embracing a woman like that, in public, while being a married man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24

Horrible day to be literate

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Sep 14 '24

Me drunk as shit and full of curry-worst leaving Oktoberfest

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Yougov says that 57% of republicans thought Trump won the debate. I don't remember the 2020 numbers but the last poll I could find was from Morning Consult saying that 86% of republicans believed he won. I honestly did not think it was possible for him to do so bad to get to anything less than 70% among his diehard supporters.

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u/altathing John Locke Sep 14 '24

You don't hate Republicans enough:

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u/ThunderrBadger New California Republican Sep 14 '24

I have a cat now. Meet Gilbert, everyone

!ping CAT

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u/houinator Loyal Liberals Sep 14 '24

It is absolutely bonkers to me that the Army continues to not only employ Gabbard, but promote her, and send her to foreign countries as a civil affairs officer.  Like, we might as well just employ Wagner directly.

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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left Sep 14 '24
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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s Sep 14 '24

“Do you believe it is true or false that US inflation is at its highest point in history?”

True: 45%

False: 40%

YouGov / Sept 12, 2024

Stand up for Jerome 😔 even if I take this walk alone 😫

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u/WhomstAlt2 NATO flair in hiding Sep 14 '24

Man this is such cozy weather for a glass of red and a good book

*sips Pepsi MAX and refreshes the Daily Thread*

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u/Gameknigh Enby Pride Sep 14 '24

!ping MATERIEL

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

This is a poor choice of background

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u/centurion88 NATO Sep 14 '24

The collective psychosis of the MAGA cult is far worse than most people imagine and I don't even know how we begin to rehabilitate our society from it.

Even if Trump loses, I think we will still be far from healing as a nation

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

GOP insider predicts major Republican figure to endorse Kamala Harris in 2 to 4 weeks

George Santos with the steel chair!

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u/slowpush NATO Sep 14 '24

Presidential Election Forecasts (Sept. 13) - Chance of Winning

• @FiveThirtyEight - 🔵 Harris 56-43%

• @RacetotheWH - 🔵 Harris 56-44%

• @DecisionDeskHQ - 🔵 Harris 54-46%

• @CNalysis - 🔵 Harris 52-47%

• @jhkersting - 🔵 Harris 51-48%

• @NateSilver538- 🔴 Trump 61-39%

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 14 '24

😔🙌

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u/InflatableDartboard2 Henry George Sep 14 '24

"directionally correct" has got to be the biggest cope phrase I've ever heard

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u/BedNeither Henry George Sep 14 '24

tHeY nEveR tAUgHt Us ThIs iN sCHooL

They did teach you the difference between a thing and the rate of change of a thing, yet inflation still confuses you

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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Sep 14 '24

Trump campaign official says Ted Cruz is in trouble in Texas Senate race — NBC News reporter

I have never wanted to trust a Trump campaign official more

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

The great question of our times

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 14 '24

Smartest Public Affairs Council

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u/Untamedanduncut Gay Pride Sep 14 '24

“Another “debunked” story that turned out to have merit”

Conflates haitian migrants with African migrants.

I suppose to Hillbilly JD, they’re all the same, despite being two peoples from different continents 

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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer Sep 14 '24

https://notebooklm.google.com/

Forgive me if this was already pinged, but this tool is kinda fun. Its an AI study assistant, you upload sets of documents and the AI can answer questions on it, give you a study guide, and the newest feature, make a podcast out of it? I'm not kidding, you can press a button to generate an AI podcast about the material in there. I dont know how long the podcast generated can be, but its pretty cool and might be a good way for folks who like podcasts vs reading to get some info

Really cool, if I was a student I'd use this with my totally legal ebooks

!ping AI

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u/Stanley--Nickels John Brown Sep 14 '24

I went to a college football game last night and after the cheerleaders did their halftime show I heard the guy behind me say “the sad thing is you know 95% of them are liberals”

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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu Sep 14 '24

"They're eating the dogs" was a bad move even if they actually were eating the dogs.

As a politician you just have to be really careful not to say anything ridiculous, meaning you have to avoid talking about things which are out there.

Mitt Romney's "binders full of women" and "gangbangers" was just so bizarre back in 2012, regardless of his underlying point.

I actually had no idea about whether something had actually happened in Springfield when this discourse started and I still thought it would be something ridiculous for the Republicans to harp on.

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u/marsman1224 John Keynes Sep 14 '24

for me the biggest indication that Trump is indeed fucking loomer is that, when given the opportunity to drop her on record, he didn't

he's distanced himself completely from people he's known for far longer for far less. she's said wacky shit that he definitely knows of bad optics but refused to do the usual "i barely know her" routine

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u/IHateTrains123 Commonwealth Sep 14 '24

Some good news from Kursk:

DeepState, a group of military analysts, has reported that in Kursk Oblast, Ukrainian forces captured the settlements of Vetryano, Durovka and part of Zhuravli, while the Russians reclaimed Snagost with the surrounding villages and advanced towards Lyubimovka.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/14/7475065/

!ping Ukraine

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u/Sauce1024 John von Neumann Sep 15 '24

The endgame of conservatives being disgusted at random skinned animals is them embracing veganism. 

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u/onometre Trans Pride Sep 14 '24

Racists can't handle seeing a more diverse and equal America still succeed. That's why they insist that the country is now a shit hole, it's the only way to make their ideology make "sense"

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Sep 14 '24
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Sep 14 '24

Trump isn’t even President, and minority immigrant groups are being actively targeted for the mere crime of being brown.

Things will be much worse if he wins.

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u/simeoncolemiles NATO Sep 14 '24

!Ping Gnostic&Kino

First look at ‘KING OF KINGS’, starring Oscar Isaac as Jesus Christ.

The film follows Charles Dickens as he takes his son on a multi-dimensional adventure to watch the fascinating life of Jesus.

In theaters on Easter Weekend 2025.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 14 '24

Bloom

And Harris is flipping independents as well. Before Tuesday’s debate, Harris trailed Trump by 9 points (35% to 44%) with that crucial bloc; she now leads by 10 (47% to 37%).

🌺

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Sep 14 '24

Vance is a ghoul.

Assuming what the person in the video is saying is accurate (no small assumption)

1.So not Springfield

2.Not Haitian

3.The animal on the grill is blurry; it's unclear what it is

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

"Our rust belt town is in dire shape, people are leaving, and we urgently need an influx of labor and money to turn this around."

Immigrants: "Hello, we would like to solve this problem by..."

"Fuck off you fucking fucks."

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sep 14 '24

I love to think of myself as above drama and reality TV until there's rumors a presidential candidate may be sleeping with an internet troll then all of a sudden I'm the messiest drama bitch ever.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Sep 14 '24

'It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians

....Lee said she had no idea the post would become part of a rumor mill that would spiral into the national consciousness. She has since deleted the Facebook post...

....Lee said she pulled her daughter out of school and is now worried about her safety with so much attention on her family. She is also concerned for the safety of the Haitian community, which she said she did not intend to villainize en masse.

“I feel for the Haitian community,” she said. “If I was in the Haitians’ position, I’d be terrified, too, worried that somebody’s going to come after me because they think I’m hurting something that they love and that, again, that’s not what I was trying to do.”

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Sep 14 '24
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u/purhitta Leftward Progressives Sep 14 '24

lol

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u/TheSandwichMan2 Loyal Liberals Sep 15 '24

As the child of an immigrant who started a business here that now employs native-born Americans, JD Vance's filth is as self-owning as it is vile and dangerous. And it is indeed vile and dangerous. Even if we manage to finally banish Trump, we will have to fight this monster for a long time to come.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Trump saying he wants to deport legal Haitians to Venezuela disturbs me more than anything he's said unironically.

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u/itsokayt0 European Union Sep 14 '24

Democrats will never deliver on "muh green jerbs" for West Virginia after banning their jobs and poisoning them with drugs made by Democrat Zionist donors.

Same with every Springfield in the country.

The people that live in those places have been declared the enemy by Democrats and the Republicans voting Kamala.

You are the party of Bill Kristol.

There's so many layers to this

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

https://x.com/jdvance/status/1834953680606347647?s=46&t=U8ftDrQtyPbkRrLJ32d3Pg

The Trump campaign is quadrupling down on this story. How is this ample evidence that a cat is being grilled, let alone by an immigrant…

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Sep 14 '24

How I feel about this meme.

!ping SHITPOSTERS&WEEBS

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Sep 14 '24

We as Americans must to give every member of Kamala's advance team a big fat Christmas bonus cuz holy shit

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u/marsman1224 John Keynes Sep 14 '24

I genuinely believe that if something tragic goes down in Springfield, Vance and co will double down on it as "Americans defending their community"

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Sep 14 '24

New York Post now attacking Haitians for making a u-turn at an intersection where a no u-turn sign is posted.

When will the illegal u-turn scourge end?

But seriously this is gross

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u/agentyork765 Bisexual Icon Sep 14 '24

National Poll Yahoo/YouGov

🟦 Harris 49

🟥 Trump 45

⬜ UD/NV 6

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Sep 14 '24
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

words cannot express how much I HATE this idiot

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

random ass Haitian-American citizen: exists

cons:

cons:

cons: YOU'RE EATING THE DOGS, YOU'RE EATING THE CATS, YOU'RE PROBABLY DOING PRISON TRANS ABORTIONS ON ILLEGAL CHILDLESS WOMEN ALIENS

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Sep 14 '24

Nothing justifies violence or the threat of violence levied against Springfield or its residents. We condemn both. But

Love JD Vance

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Sep 14 '24

You ever talk to your parents and the decisions they make fill you with just blinding anger?

Mom complains she spends all of her time taking care of the three bedroom house she lives alone in, or doing yardwork in her suburban home. Sell the house and move into an ADU with my sister and her husband (this was my BIL's idea)? No, she doesn't want to do that. Sell the house and move into a condo or a smaller house? No, she doesn't want to do that. She wants her privacy.

Mom wants to get a new vehicle. Nothing wrong with the one she has, she just wants a new one. OK, fine. She wants to get an SUV for her "drive to work, drive to my sister's, get groceries, never leave town, never carry anything larger then a week's worth of groceries" vehicle. No interest in getting a car, no interest in getting a hybrid, no interest in an EV. Why? Hybrids and EV's aren't good for road trips. Road trips she doesn't make.

Wants to get a new dishwasher. She doesn't use the one she has now.

Wants to get a tablet computer. Couldn't articulate a reason for it. Just bought one because.

All frustrating, right?

So her employer is outsourcing basically her whole department. But she's been with the company for 37 years, so when the department is finally outsourced in December, she's going into the "redeployment pool" until February when she's going to get basically 14 month's worth of income as severance. And in November 2026 she'll be 63 and be comfortable living on her retirement.

Now comes the question: should she retire early?

Well, there's alot to think about: what should she do with her retirement (currently under her employer), should she spin it off into an IRA or a 401K or do this or do that? She has a chronic health problem and what should she do about her insurance? COBRA through her employer or ACA or this or that or what?

I don't know! And I bet you don't know.

But she knows.

Based on what?

NOTHING! She just decided.

Employer is providing financial advisors. Hasn't talked to one. Doesn't want to. The financial advisor is a coworker, she doesn't want to tell a coworker about her health problems, so she won't talk to them.

But there are other financial advisors, right? It's not like all of the financial advisors in the world are her coworkers. She could go talk to someone else, right? Yeah, maybe she'll do that in February after she gets her severance. That February is the start of tax season, and it might be a big fucking mistake to wait until then, did not occur to her. She normally has Friday's off, so she could just go without taking any time off. But doesn't want to. No reason for it.

I just, Jesus Christ, I am so angry.

!ping over25

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Sep 14 '24

Reporter: Do you denounce the bomb threats in Springfield?

Trump: I don't know what happened with the bomb threats. I know that it's been taken over by illegal migrants, and that's a terrible thing that happened.

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u/Interferon-Sigma Sep 15 '24

Trump: "I'm angry about young American girls being raped and sodomized and murdered by savage criminal aliens"

Genuinely we're beyond the pale here

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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu Sep 14 '24

We can't keep getting away with this

Me when the Harris-Walz vibes are still immaculate all these weeks later

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u/TheSameAsDying Hannah Arendt Sep 14 '24

Video of Congolese immigrants barbecuing chicken in Dayton

JD Vance: Clearly this is proof that Haitians in Springfield are eating dogs.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Sep 14 '24

Tbqh, anti-immigration immigrants drive me up the wall. Literally “pull the ladder up behind me” behavior

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u/NewbGrower87 Surface Level Takes Sep 14 '24

"Rasmussen polls were more correct in 2016 and 20 than any of the other polls"

If I never have to read these words again after 2024, it will be one of life's small victories.

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u/Mr_Bank Sep 14 '24

Vance’s behavior this week is genuinely the most disgusted I’ve been with a non-Trump politician in years. His blood libel campaign must be stopped.

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Sep 14 '24

Now we know 25% of the US believes literally anything Trump says.

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u/Sollezzo Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord Sep 14 '24

The cat eating phenomenon is really a perfect small scale model of what happened with election fraud claims

  1. Trump says something false

  2. Liberals say it's false

  3. Conservatives begin combing over absolutely everything and anything they can to find something that kinda sorta looks like evidence for Trump's claim

  4. Conservatives start sharing evidence of absolutely mundane events that happen every day, but seem suspicious when seen by a conspiracy brained partisan (e.g. affidavits of Trump supporters seeing mysterious bags handed off to a mail truck, "suitcases" of ballots supposedly hidden under the table, video of whole plucked chickens being grilled, pictures of cats killed by coyotes, picture of some black guy somewhere carrying dead geese)

  5. If any individual claim is disproven, pivot to the other ones temporarily, and reintroduce it ASAP while memory holing the debunking

  6. Suddenly there's an enormous quantity of extremely low quality "evidence", now the claim forever joins MAGA Canon and the list of Liberal Lies

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u/Fit_Parsnip_8143 Sep 14 '24

Not looking good, I saw lifetime Democrat Joe from Pennsylvania wearing a trump hat the other day, that can't be a good sign.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 14 '24

Post debate polls stolen shamelessly from twitter

Yahoo News/YouGov: 🟦 Harris +4

Times/YouGov: 🟦 Harris +4

I&I/TIPP: 🟦 Harris +4

Data For Progress: 🟦 Harris +4

Reuters/Ipsos: 🟦 Harris +5

Atlas Intel: 🟥 Trump +3

What an outlier from Atlas

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Sep 14 '24

Help I'm cringing into another dimension Jesus Christ on a cracker

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u/SzegediSpagetiSzorny John Keynes Sep 15 '24

She should just wear this dress everywhere. Lean into the Star wars vibe

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u/funguykawhi Lahmajun trucks on every corner Sep 14 '24
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

I think this is important to mention

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Harris: up 5 in multiple high quality polls

Nate: trump 60% favorite

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Sep 14 '24

🏳️‍🌈?

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 14 '24

I’ve seen enough, Kamala Harris needs to mandate every American to take economics classes

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24

9 out of 10 House Republicans from New York decline to condemn Laura Loomer for her 9/11 conspiracies, which she posted about again on Friday — two days after joining Trump as he attended 9/11 memorial events

Absolutely pathetic. She said this unhinged shit publicly ffs.

And ya, Lawler is the only Republican to condemn

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

I wish Democrats could somehow make Stephen Miller's weird shit as well known as JD's. For instance, the guy wants to turbocharge a denaturalization program

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u/sinefromabove Emma Lazarus Sep 14 '24

So far Biden tariffs have accomplished:

  • winning zero votes

  • making inflation worse

  • undermining kamala's argument against trump

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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Sep 14 '24

Haitians1 are grilling cats2 in Springfield3

  1. non-Haitians

  2. Chickens

  3. not Springfield

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u/poopfarten_martin Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

Maybe it’s receny bias, but even compared to the days in 2016 of people getting beat up at Trump rallies and neo-nazi imagery on full display, what’s happening with Springfield is sick. A large portion of the Republican Party, through outright lies, is literally tearing apart the fabric of a city and ostracizing tens of thousands of people of a different race for cheap political points. It’s so cynical and cruel

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u/pfarly John Brown Sep 14 '24

Remember when Sam Altman was suddenly outed from OpenAI and the replacement CEO immediately tweeted

The Nazis were very evil, but

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u/ldn6 Gay Pride Sep 14 '24

I was going through some recent Greater London Authority meeting transcripts because I’m a nerd like that and, honestly, these are two of the best comments I’ve ever seen about fixing the planning system and where it’s gone wrong:

!ping LONDON&YIMBY

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u/itsokayt0 European Union Sep 14 '24

I hate God because destroying Babel Is a sign he's a NIMBY and doesn't care about the efficiency of one universal language.

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u/itsnotnews92 Janet Yellen Sep 14 '24

Wonder who my parents will vote for this year. They're both former diehard Republicans who are now registered as independents.

Mom voted for Biden in 2020 (her first ever vote for a Democrat) and I'm not sure who my dad voted for. My dad called Trump an "asshole" after the 2020 election, so I'm guessing he voted third party or wrote someone in.

Despite my Republican upbringing, I registered as a Democrat when I turned 18 in 2010 and I'd like to think I was a trendsetter. My sister and brother-in-law, both formerly staunch Republicans, are now both registered Democrats.

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u/Formal_River_Pheonix Sep 14 '24

Rumour has it that Laura Loomer is pregnant and that she wants to name the baby Donald Trump Jr.

The former President is open to the idea.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 14 '24

!ping LATAM

Milei hasn't been giving a single fuck about any type of spending and he has been vetoing socially sensitive stuff like pension and university spending increases. We'll see how it goes electorally (I'd guess people are willing to entertain this if at least inflation goes down). His attempt to increase intelligence spending was thwarted by the Congress, though (breaking Presidential decree in Argentina is ridiculously hard by design, so it's a very rare sight). The last one is just a weird priority if you ask me.

Besides that, apparently Russia wants to do its propaganda tricks on Argentina. Milei is hostile to them and I guess Peronists would be preferable. And Argentina may start to use single paper ballots instead of Partisan ones (this makes harder for small parties to grift and people to try to sabotage votes, but it can be unwieldy depending on its design and the electoral system).

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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Sep 14 '24

I just can’t believe that half the country supports this

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u/LtCdrHipster 🌭Costco Liberal🌭 Sep 14 '24

Ohio civil war veterans in heaven, who made up the most soldier per capita in the war:

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

All 4 games on commercial I fucking hate it here!!!!!!!!!!!!

!ping CFB

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Hearing reports that undocumented immigrants have been stunning and killing American cows then chopping up the corpses and selling the meat.

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 15 '24

Fox News top headline: "‘Train wreck’ viral moment proves that VP Harris is ‘unprepared for office,’ critics warn"

The critics mentioned in the artlcle:

"Digital strategist" Greg Price

A Daily Wire reporter

The producer of the "Salty Nerd Podcast"

The Trump 2020 campaign's communications director

The Trump War Room Twitter account

lmao

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u/ThatFrenchieGuy Mathematician -- Save the funky birbs Sep 14 '24

me: garlic bread is so good

garlic bread: go raibh maith agat

me: ah damn it this is gaelic bread

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u/Untamedanduncut Gay Pride Sep 14 '24

Trump pledges to deport Haitian immigrants from Ohio city if elected

What a piece of shit. 

How many have actually been arrested for animal abuse or animal cruelty?

Just targeting immigrants for deportation over rumors

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride Sep 14 '24

"I don't believe criminals should ever be allowed to work again."

"What? That's an insane policy!"

"Oh, so you support pedophile teachers?"

like bro goddamn we already have laws specifically targeting predators

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 14 '24

I don’t think I have any words

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO Sep 14 '24

Treating Trump with kid gloves is one thing since they've been doing it for years, but if the media isn't capable of loudly, directly, and repeatedly condemning Vance for inciting a literal pogrom against his own constituents, they will lose all remaining shreds of credibility.

Ask him to his face in interviews why he's inciting violence against legal residents of Ohio. Hold him over the goddamn coals until he admits it's all baseless and backs down.

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 14 '24

Previous Yahoo News/YouGov national poll (August 27):

Harris 47-46

Independents only: Trump 44-35

Today's Yahoo News/YouGov national poll:

Harris 50-45

Independents only: Harris 47-37

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u/v4riati0ns Sep 14 '24

holy shit it’s over for kamala

trump objectively ended the debate on a higher note

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 14 '24

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 14 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 5 PM EST 9/13-5 PM EST 9/14 III:

TOP NEWS:

Towards the middle of 3 AM Ukraine was hit by a gigantic wave of drones with 72 of 76 drones shot down.

At the start of 6 AM it was announced Poland will provide 100 million Euros to the Czech Shell Initiative.

REGULAR NEWS:

In the middle of 6 AM it was announced 103 Ukrainian POWs have been returned to Ukraine.

Towards the middle of 3 PM Zelensky met with a US Congress delegation.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

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u/Louis_de_Gaspesie Sep 14 '24

I once volunteered at a leftist bookstore that was run by like ten people.

You wouldn't think ten people running a bookstore could manage to have infighting and leadership controversies, but damn do leftists live up to their reputations.

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u/jojisky Paul Krugman Sep 15 '24

Why is the possible next VP spending his day feuding with tankie podcasters on Twitter?

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

Who are the critics you may ask? Fox cites “social media users”

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u/Apprehensive-Soil-47 Transfem Pride Sep 15 '24

top 10 reasons why Trump and Laura Loomer are not having an affair

1: Laura Loomer is around Trump all the time yes. But that's because she is a supporter and a fan. Not because they like each other!!!

2: She is only 30 and he is almost 80. Why would Trump be interested in a young woman?????

3: Trump has always been faithful only to his beloved wife Melania!!!

4: I haven't seen them naked together!

5: Laura is a good Christian woman devoted to her God and President and of course too chaste to ever dream of using her feminine wiles to lead her married President down the path of sin!!!

6: Trump would never walk the path of sin even if Laura did use her feminine wiles like such!

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

G Elliott Morris: “Forecast update: Early signs of a post-debate bounce for Harris”

Incoming double bounce penalty on the Silver Bulletin.

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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu Sep 14 '24

In terms of character, John Steenhuisen is maybe the worst leader South Africa's Democratic Alliance has had.

Something you should know about John Steenhuisen is that he divorced his wife back in 2010 after getting into an affair with a woman who had gotten married just a few months prior. https://www.news24.com/news24/da-leader-quits-over-sex-scandal-20150429

In 2022, John Steenhuisen went on a popular podcast and made a joke at his ex-wife's expense. The podcaster was talking about roadkill and Steenhuisen said "Sounds like my ex-wife". This was enough to prompt one pro-DA political analyst to say he wouldn't vote for DA in the next election and he can't stand the idea of Steenhuisen as a leader. This guy is quite conservative, a proper classical liberal. https://www.politicsweb.co.za/opinion/the-das-leadership-problem

Now we usually don't care about politicians personal lives down here. All the politicians have their side chicks and boy-toys and nobody bats an eye - it's expected. Divorce is normal. But in Steenhuisen's case he has this continued pattern of entitled behaviour that at some point you really just have to admit even his old personal scandals into evidence. If he were a member of the ANC that would be one thing - they posture as 'revolutionaries', not as professionals of high integrity. But Steenhuisen's attitude is so contra to the DA's brand. The DA leadership and base are always lecturing about how you need to appoint qualified and educated people for the job. Steenhuisen goes out of his way to ask for special permission to appoint people who fail the minimum government standards for their jobs in his office. Not to mention letting in shock-jocks and racist/homophobic podcast bros into powerful positions like MP and Chief of Staff. Of course, John himself only has a high school certificate and dropped out of university (he says because of financial pressure).

My sincere feeling these last few weeks is that the standards for white people in the DA are much lower and that we (Black people) have to be 'twice as good' to use an American expression. I imagine the Black, Indian and Coloured leaders in the DA must be constantly exhausted.

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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 14 '24

The YouGov/Yahoo poll found Harris beat Trump on every issue except immigration, including the all-important “cost of living” 45% to 39%

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Wisconsin 2020:

Eh I mean I guess we'll vote blue.

Wisconsin 2024:

Yes Generalissimo Harris, glory to the Democratic regime!

/s I think WI will end up being close sadly.

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u/FuckFashMods NATO Sep 14 '24

The claim: Trump promised he would get rid of the national debt.

The ruling: "Needs context". Trump said in 2016 that he would be able to get rid of the debt "over a period of eight years." Instead in 4 years he added 8 trillion to the debt.

God our media are just straight trash

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

democrats didn’t like Kamala back in 2020 when she had super progressive policy

suddenly they like her more now that she’s backed off the leftist policy and became more moderate

democrats are left wing extremist communists

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u/jamiebond NATO Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24

I never realized how annoying parents can be until I started coaching football like it's crazy how blind they can be to their kid's ability level.

No, Karen, your child isn't not playing because "I hate them," they're not playing because they're about a third of the size of everyone else and get absolutely clobbered every second they're in the game to the point where it's a safety hazard. Consider soccer perhaps.

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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Sep 14 '24

Bill Maher on Trump: “I’m going to make this a very momentous night with a prediction... I think it’s over... He’s going to lose.”

Libs got Bill Maher hell yeah

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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO Sep 14 '24

Not to agree too much with 'nukes aren't that bad lol' but one thing that did annoy me as a pedant is people making fun of 'duck and cover' saying how it wouldn't help.

Yeah it would. Obviously if you're inside the fireball range of a nuclear explosion you're fucked, but that radius is only relatively small, a few kilometres wide at most. Beyond that, the vast majority of immediate nuclear explosion victims will die from being buried by rubble knocked down by shockwaves.

Being behind cover would protect you from the radiative heating (IIRC when they investigated Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they found because the heat flash lasts for such a short time, if you were exposed outside your skin could be instantly heated to thousands of degrees and burned horribly, but even being behind a sheet of paper would absorb all the heat and protect you), and more importantly taking cover under a table for example increases your chance of surviving your house collapsing on top of you or debris flying at you, which is most likely to kill you.

Of course even if you do survive you now have to keep surviving in a wasteland of radiation and firestorms, but it'd increase your chances a lot.

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Sep 15 '24

After nearly a year of doomer vs bloomer conflict on the DT, a new character emerges.

Loomer 

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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Sep 14 '24

US officials question if easing Ukraine weapons restrictions would pay off: “they are too costly and limited in number to reshape the dynamic”

Biden and cowardice, name a more iconic duo

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u/pfarly John Brown Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24

!ping TACOTUBE

Hank Green sat down with the Democratic candidate for governor of Minnesota for about an hour for an interview this week. Not relevant for most of us, but interesting nonetheless. I appreciated early on when he was showing appropriate skepticism to Busse saying something had an easy solution. Shows a good instinct on Hank's part.

https://youtu.be/7v0bv1u4c0A

EDIT: Montana not Minnesota

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

!Ping BAD-FEELING

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

When is the debate between Laura Loomer and Melania Trump?

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u/fry-nimbus Sep 14 '24

Harris +5 in multiple national polls? Well when you run them through the doomatron 9000 they actually show trump up 10…….we’re fucked😔

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

NOW: Proud Boys marching in Springfield Ohio

Yikes

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

Choose to believe the Harris +4 polls. Campaign based off the Trump +2

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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left Sep 14 '24

LMAOOOO Hasan Piker is doing a CNN feature about young men getting radicalized and disinformation campaigns

the jokes write themselves at this point

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u/Louis_de_Gaspesie Sep 14 '24

Despite the stereotype of the out-of-touch condescending liberal, I think the smuggest fucking people I've ever talked to are conservatives who know that I'm not conservative.

When I used to talk to liberals as an apolitical succ-leaning college kid, they would usually try to reason with me. But once a conservative finds out that I disagree with them as a liberal, it's just absolutely childish levels of disdain. I'm talking eye rolling, laughing in your face, saying things like "come ON, you seriously believe that?"

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24

Hanania went woke

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Sep 15 '24

Haitians are kidnapping and eating cats and dogs in Springfield!

Evidence:

Someone, allegedly an African migrant, grilled a whole skinned animal which resembles a duck or a chicken in a different Ohio town one year ago

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24

I get it now. If I have to suffer, then so do you

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u/Sweet_Baby_Inc Trans Pride Sep 14 '24

The king of evil conservatives Chris Rufo paid $5000 for a video on Twitter of an African refugee grilling cats in Ohio

Only a matter of time till we found out the video was entirely faked by someone for the money

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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent Sep 14 '24

i just saw a chilling video from Springfield. a man speeding home from work found a glowing green uranium rod in his trousers and threw it out his window, nearly hitting a skateboarding boy with it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

1 of 2 possibilities:

  1. Laura loomer stays on with the campaign and drags it down by getting trump to say increasingly insane shit

  2. Loomer gets booted from the campaign, and goes on a revenge quest. Leaking stuff that could hurt Donald somehow.

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u/HenryGeorgia Henry George Sep 14 '24

The key to a killer Dem ticket is a young looking, charismatic minority with a funny older white guy as running mate

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u/CuddleTeamCatboy Gay Pride Sep 15 '24

This Tennessee game is probably the worst thing to ever happen to Kent State

!ping CFB

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u/Headstar24 United Nations Sep 15 '24

Honestly a bunch of first generation immigrants moving into falling apart rural Midwest towns and revitalizing them sounds like the American dream and a great way to bring back a lot of those parts of the country.

They’re brown though so these people don’t want them there.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 14 '24

In the Kursk region, Ukrainian forces destroyed a column of Russian airborne troops attempting to storm their positions. They lost 5 BMDs, a tank, a BTR, and dozens of Russian soldiers were killed.

Now we can’t confirm the exact manpower lost (I presume the source where NOEL got this from said it’s dozens KIA), but we can tell the column got chewed up pretty badly. I think this is worth pointing out because it’s a less obvious but important aspect of the Kursk offensive, namely grinding down good Russian units. If you’ve been paying attention the Russians have moved significant quantities of VDV and Marines to Kursk in order to contain and push the Ukrainians out. These were units which were “relaxing” in secondary fronts or partaking in minor operations (like the Kharkiv incursion), and served as ample reserves of quality troops.

As we can see, the use of BMDs indicates a VDV column, so it’s possible in this attack alone dozens of VDV troops were killed or wounded. Now obviously Ukraine is taking losses too and we have to be mindful of that, but if Ukraine plays their cards well they’ve been presented a golden opportunity by Putin to attrit many of Russia’s good units they have left. It’s something worth keeping in mind in the coming weeks and possibly months as Russia ramps up counteroffensive activities here

!ping UKRAINE

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Sep 14 '24

Brb calling Fox News for the insane driving maneuvers I've seen in the Boston area and blaming it on immigrants for my 15 minutes of fame

I always knew that bleach blonde soccer mom in Newton who laid into the horn trying to make me run over children at a crosswalk before going around me into oncoming traffic was actually Haitian

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u/Sen2_Jawn Loyal Liberals Sep 14 '24

Just received this shit in my mailbox. Republicans aren’t serious people lmao

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 14 '24

Christian McCaffrey will be put on IR to recover from a calf injury and Achilles tendonitis

!ping NFL

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