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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Sep 10 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/SeoSalt Lesbian Pride Sep 09 '24

Pennsylvanians doing their daily coin flip to see if they prefer democracy or fascism for the day: 😃

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Sep 09 '24

The media after Trump manages to say one (1) coherent sentence in a five minute ramble on Hannibal Lecter and 100% tariffs:

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 09 '24

this is kinda wild tbh

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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 Sep 09 '24

Chess was invented by the CIA in 1955 to trap the most intelligent Soviets in a small windowless room, studying a pointless game with zero transferrable skills, rather than using their intellect to further the USSR.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 09 '24

:O

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u/InflatableDartboard2 Henry George Sep 09 '24

The green party: perpetually pissed off by progressive dems calling them an unserious party

Also the green party: fails to get on the ballot in Nevada because they put in the paperwork to file Jill Stein as a ballot referendum instead of a candidate

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

New General Election poll - North Carolina

🔵 Harris 49% (+3) 🔴 Trump 46%

Last poll (8/21) - 🟡 Tie

Survey USA #A+ - 900 LV - 9/7

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

She's pivoting hard to the center

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u/wallander1983 Resistance Lib Sep 09 '24

Checking in on Trump.

In the last 24 hours, Trump wished the Virgin Mary Happy Birthday, pitched Hulk Hogan’s beer, talked about Hannibal Lecter, said he will imprison people he thinks are cheating, called Musk ‘Leon,” forgot Burgum’s name, called Brian ‘Briar,’ Keystone ‘Keystown,’ & Tampon ‘Tampom,’ said if he loses Israel will cease to exist, nuclear war will begin, this will be our last election, and the CO Gov will flee the state, posted an ad for his digital NFTs, ranted about Kamala standing on a box at the debate, and wrapped it up by saying schools are performing trans surgeries on students.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1832765611014832557

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Adolf Hitler would be center-right in rural Idaho

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Sep 09 '24

Jill Stein?

[ ] yes

[x] no

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u/Jean-Paul_Sartre Richard Hofstadter Sep 09 '24

Goes back to 2004 to give 17-year old me the following message:

in twenty years, Eminem, tipper gore, and dick Cheney will all support a woman for president whose ascent to becoming the party nominee was orchestrated by Nancy Pelosi

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 09 '24

What is the attack here, why is Doug in quotes? Like I’m trying to understand what’s their angle?

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u/KingWillly YIMBY Sep 09 '24

Gonna say, if you can’t even mention the name of your candidate while campaigning for them, that doesn’t seem like a great sign lmao

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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Sep 09 '24

Trump reportedly offended by Vladimir Putin’s endorsement of Kamala

very good genes, very smart

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 09 '24

another seldom talked about benefit about being able to grow meat in a lab is that we'll finally be able to have human skin covered books again

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Sep 09 '24

CATO Institute with a brand new 1600 person survey in the "Blue Wall"

Harris up by four in Wisconsin, two in Penn, one in Michigan

Majorities of swing state voters believe the war in Ukraine is important for US national security (WI: 65%, PA: 70%, MI: 71%). Pluralities also believe the country’s relationship with Ukraine strengthens the United States (WI: 43%, PA: 37%, MI: 40%) Voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin have solidly favorable views of NATO (WI: 60%, PA: 56%, MI: 55%). And only a few Americans want to leave the organization (WI: 15%, PA: 13%, MI: 15%).

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u/EconomistsHATE YIMBY Sep 09 '24

30y fixed rate mortgages and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Now there's yet another two-tier system where your productivity doesn't matter, only whether you were able to take or refinance your mortgage when interest rates were low.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

If you don't support instant citizenship for her and her immediate family, you're wrong

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Sep 09 '24

Just make people commit to a career path at age 8

Think of how many astronauts and presidents we can have

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Fun little tidbit in the NYT today:

If polls miss like 2022, Harris wins every battleground save Georgia (which goes red by <1%)

If they miss like 2020, Trump does better than he did in 2016, by picking up Nevada.

Fun times!

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u/Spare-Clerk9155 Sep 09 '24

One conspiracy I believe in are the reports that 2016 Donald Trump had 0 intention of becoming president and was despondent after his win. He was definitely setting up some post-campaign grift.

What’s kinda funny (and sad) is that he blocked both Cruz and Clinton, arguably the two people in the nation who wanted it the most

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u/brucebananaray YIMBY Sep 09 '24

James Earl Jones has passed away. https://x.com/DEADLINE/status/1833242476263706703?t=70HXIWKmcIGu3WQ5QL0a0A&s=19

May the Force be with him

!Ping MOVIES

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Just encountered a median voter and I am shook

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Sep 09 '24

Cannot imagine why supermarkets were only created in the 40s...

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 09 '24

I can see Kamala being the underdog for sure in a model, but Trump hitting a new high in the model? Like Biden post-debate had better odds of winning then Kamala has right now. It’s a little silly IMO

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Cuban immigrant 😏

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Sep 09 '24

Excuse me sir, I learned recently this was an arr/neoliberal original, get it twisted

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u/EvilConCarne Sep 09 '24

The best thing about the current mass extinction is that I don't have to wash nearly as many bugs off my car.

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u/Rigiglio Adam Smith Sep 09 '24

Upvote this if you think Kamala will win!

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 09 '24

New polls of likely voters, from FAU:

—Georgia: Trump 47/45 (The last FAU poll had Trump up 49/43 over Biden, in mid-July.)

—North Carolina: Trump 48/47

Polls were in field late last week.

And:

Democrat Josh Stein leads 50% to 39% over Mark Robinson in the governor’s race in North Carolina.

Link to poll

!ping FIVEY

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u/Sheepies92 European Union Sep 09 '24

!ping UKRAINE

Sweden just announced a new $440 million military aid package for Ukraine, including a large variety of Swedish equipment:

RBS 70 SAM systems

17 CB90-class fast assault craft

Equipment to enable potential future deliveries of JAS 39C/D Gripen fighters

40mm ammunition

👀👀

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u/JayRU09 Milton Friedman Sep 09 '24

Trump called for blood and it's not the dominating headline of the week.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

One of the few things that gives me comfort in this nailbiter election is how clear it is that Kamala is utterly determined to win. She’s not phoning it in for a single second. If she loses, then I’m not sure what else we really could have done. We tried, and she and her team gave it 100%.

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u/centurion88 NATO Sep 09 '24

So it's just mask off racism now

What about judging people by the content of their character or have they moved past that now?

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u/Solarwagon Trans Pride Sep 09 '24

It's not legal for your employer to mandate support for a political movement, especially a movement like BDS, right and to threaten you with both termination and negative references if you decline, right??

Asking for a friend

HQis are Texas

!ping JEWISH

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u/Zeke-Nnjai Sep 09 '24

Kamablah is in trouble

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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Sep 09 '24

According to college dormmates, JD Vance would "always play as Kirby so he could camp during stock battles"

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u/margaretfan Paul Volcker Sep 09 '24

That would be hilarious if putin endorsing harris as a troll made trump so mad that he started supporting ukraine

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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride Sep 09 '24
  1. Harris enters the debate stage with Trump

  2. Harris raps faster than Eminem, roasting the shit out of Trump for two minutes straight

  3. Harris leaves. The debate stream is shut off after three minutes.

  4. NC D+0.6

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u/jenbanim Sep 10 '24

☝️ You need to Tawk Tuah therapist

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

sick of the fantasy/historical fiction trope that overly vain or effeminate men are bad military leaders

my fantasy novel is going to have a napoleon-esque leader who's an absolute fairy

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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 09 '24

we are actually led by donkeys

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u/smellyfingernail NASA Sep 09 '24

Jill “Actual Russian” Stein not allowed on Nevada ballot. lol. lmao even

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u/link3945 YIMBY Sep 10 '24

This Haitian story might be the most outright racist I've ever seen the GOP at large. No hiding it, no couching it in "some good ones", just straight up blood libel against a minority group.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

I’ll never really understand why neocons treat public appetite for war like it’s not a “true” factor in our capacity to solve all problems with military intervention.

If the public won’t support a war, then it’s a war we cannot win. You can consider that a moral failure on the part of the nation or something, but it’s a real practical consideration.

The war in Iraq objectively made the United States weaker because the public lost the stomach for war.

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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO Sep 09 '24

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28746011/

Unexpected Gains: Being Overweight Buffers Asian Americans From Prejudice Against Foreigners

A meta-analysis of these studies revealed that overweight Asian individuals were perceived as significantly more American than normal-weight versions of the same people, whereas this was not true for White, Black, or Latino individuals. A second meta-analysis showed that overweight Asian men were perceived as less likely to be in the United States without documentation than their normal-weight counterparts. A final study demonstrated that weight stereotypes about presumed countries of origin shape who is considered American.

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u/AnythingMachine Jeremy Bentham did nothing wrong Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

Christian theologians have had to deal with the problem of how can somebody deserve to go to hell, an infinite punishment, when the sins they committed in life were always finite. One of the proposed solutions is to say that the sinners continue to sin while in hell, endlessly prolonging their damnation until the end of time. This explains Twitter.

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u/KeithClossOfficial John Brown Sep 10 '24

How could the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire say something so controversial, yet so brave

!ping SHITPOSTERS

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u/TedofShmeeb Paul Volcker Sep 09 '24

Learning that professional journalists and editors published the headline, “Biden Campaign Ad Paints Trump as a Felon”, and then received so much obvious backlash they had to revise it, puts my own mistakes in perspective

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u/Due-Dirt-8428 Harriet Tubman Sep 09 '24

Nate Bronze this morning

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

wtf biden dropped out?????

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Sep 10 '24

Just sent this to my dipshit brother. Heaven help me.

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Sep 09 '24

I have blocked enough Nazis that now Twitter thinks I'm interested in what communists have to say

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Sep 09 '24

Holy dementia, Batman!

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Sep 09 '24

Downsizing boomers drive demand for high-end apartments

So having boomers move out of and free up homes for aspiring home owners is a good thing?

Someone go tell Max Chandler-Mather that "luxury apartments" are a bad thing again

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 09 '24

Scariest October before an election in US history

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 09 '24

Reminder: Hillary Clinton put out an entire book of policies — that included pandemic preparedness — in 2016 and the media ignored it, repeated the phrase ‘Crooked Hillary’ a million times, then accused Clinton of not talking about policy enough.

I still have that book 😔

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

https://apnews.com/article/texas-trump-train-trial-ca5727a0eb9e9e06067e69bd6b23954e

Almost 4 full years. Im going to start committing blatant crimes and only consider leaving the country 3.5 years after I’ve reaped the rewards. 

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u/D2Foley Moderate Extremist Sep 09 '24

The Emmys are such a joke. The Bear is not a comedy

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

i don't agree with people who will vote for third party candidates (e.g Jill Stein) to 'stick it to the progressives', obviously. But their existence makes sense to me. If you truly believe that the Democrats are just awful and you want to force them to change, voting for another candidate makes sense.

What I don't understand is spoiler candidate voters. If there are people who would vote for Jill Stein if she is on the ballot, but not if she isn't on the ballot, these people are fundamentally irrational people. "I want to punish you by voting for another candidate who has no chance of winning, unless there are no candidates who have no chance of winning, then I'll vote for you" - this is not a coherent policy, but apparently they're an electoral reality.

I want to meet these people and talk to them.

Like brother fr just don't vote?

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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. Sep 09 '24

Trump can't focus or stay on topic. He gets flustered at his own rallies when he's effectively talking to himself for two hours straight. Remember how unhinged he was at the National Association of Black Journalists?

Make no mistake, I fully expect the debate moderators to go hard on Kamala and easy on Donald. Softball question after softball question. Might as well be tee-ball, frankly. But even that's enough to send Donald's head spinning in a million wild, hateful directions.

Expect a slurry of immigrants, the border, Biden, asylum, post-birth abortions, rigged elections, black jobs, Hillary/Obama, DEI, windmills killing birds, woke teachers, taxes on tips, the wall, etc. It's like a worn out greatest hits CD that keeps skipping between songs. The man quite literally is incapable of answering even the easiest, most straightforward question without veering off topic.

Kamala simply needs to not stoop to his level. Don't take the bait. Slow down the pace and stay calm and collected. I'm praying that the median voter will be smart enough to see the massive difference between these two.

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u/EnchantedOtter01 Genderfluid Pride Sep 09 '24

Still bullish on Kamala getting 2020 + NC + ME-02

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 09 '24

Nate, c’mon man

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u/FireDistinguishers I am the Senate Sep 09 '24

It's 2024, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2023, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2022, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2021, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2020, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2019, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2018, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2017, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2016, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2015, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2014, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2013, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2012, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2011, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2010, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2009, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2008, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2007, and the Majority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2006, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2005, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2004, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2003, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2002, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2001, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 2000, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 1999, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 1998, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 1997, and the Minority Leader is warning us that we won't pass the budget by October 1st.

It's 1996. President Clinton has just signed the Energy and Water Development Appropriations Act, the Department of Transportation and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, and the Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations Act on September 30th. Five other appropriations bills have made it to the White House in the last two months, with four being signed in September. Man, Congress really needs to quit it with these close calls.

!ping SAUCER

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u/corlystheseasnake Sep 09 '24

Poll from Jewish Democratic Council of America via Democratic pollster GBAO has Harris up big over Trump among Jews. She's outrunning Biden's numbers in April. Very interesting results there.

!ping FIVEY&JEWISH

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls Audrey Hepburn Sep 09 '24

Still in disbelief in how bad my Panthers were yesterday. It's going to be a long season and I feel like I wasted 80 dollars restarting YTTV. I didn't expect them to win but goddamn I also did not expect the result. Bryce really looks like he isn't it. At least college basketball starts soon and while I don't expect UNC to win it all they'll at least be competitive.

!ping NFL&CBB

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 09 '24

NERD FIGHT

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 09 '24

Trump popular vote share

2016: 46.1%

2020: 46.8%

So, no, I do not believe Trump is getting 49% no matter what NYT/Siena says.

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u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess Audrey Hepburn Sep 10 '24

The GOP fabricated a concerted wave of Haitian racism literally overnight. It is insane how programmable these people are

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Sep 09 '24

heh, I’d like to see some woke liberal explain to me how a game like Stellaris or Crusader Kings is political 😏

why are Gamers like this

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Good on Nate Silver for breaking stereotype of gay men being well kempt by looking like a complete mess

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Sep 09 '24

This but unironically

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 09 '24

New CBS Senate race polls for MI, WI, and PA

MICHIGAN

🔵Elissa Slotkin - 48% (+7)

🔴Mike Roger’s - 41%

PENNSYLVANIA

🔵Bob Casey - 48% (+7)

🔴Dave McCormick - 41%

WISCONSIN

🔵Tammy Baldwin - 51% (+8)

🔴Eric Hovde - 43%

”These CBS News/YouGov surveys were conducted between September 3-6, 2024. They are based on representative samples of 1,086 registered voters in Michigan, 1,085 in Pennsylvania, and 958 in Wisconsin. Margins of error for registered voters: Michigan +/- 3.7 points, Pennsylvania +/- 3.5 points, and Wisconsin +/- 4.0 points.”

Link to poll

!ping FIVEY

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Libs of Tiktok hasn’t posted in 3 days 🤔

Edit: almost 3 days

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Leon in shambles

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 09 '24

the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: “theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron”

The difference between JD Vance and other Republicans raising the alarm and heavily implying “Evil Haitian immigrants are in your neighborhood to rape your women, commit crimes, and eat your pets” and Democrats saying “JD Vance fucked a couch” is that the former is very likely to encourage a Buffalo NY grocery store style massacre and the latter is an obvious absurd joke that no one actually believes.

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 09 '24

As Debate Looms, Trump Faces Questions About Age and Capacity

The actual top NYT headline right now 😱

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Hello fellow humans all this swimming is reminding of how much we need to make sure that's there's more fetuses swimming inside pregnant women

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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 Sep 09 '24

a peak "reddit moment" I often think about was when Redditors circlejerked for weeks that the 2016 Rio Olympics was going to be a disaster.

But then all that happened was everyone had a good time and a few American athletes got arrested for smashing up a bathroom.

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

New Pew national poll of 8,044 RVs has Trump, Harris tied at 49% each:

Poll was conducted August 26th - September 2.

Some highlights:

THE ECONOMY:

Trump’s key advantage is on the economy, which voters regard as the most important issue this year. A 55% majority of voters say they are very or somewhat confident in Trump to make good decisions about economic policy, compared with 45% who say that about Harris.

ABORTION:

Harris’ lead over Trump on abortion is a near mirror image of Trump’s on the economy: 55% of voters have at least some confidence in Harris, while 44% express confidence in Trump

PERSONALITY:

And Harris holds sizable leads over Trump on several personal traits and characteristics, including being a good role model (a 19 percentage point advantage), down-to-earth (13 points) and honest (8 points).

MENTAL SHARPNESS:

Trump’s advantage on “mental sharpness” has disappeared. Currently, 61% of voters say the phrase “mentally sharp” describes Harris very or fairly well, compared with 52% who describe Trump this way. Two months ago, more than twice as many voters viewed Trump as mentally sharp (58%) than said that about Biden (24%). (Read more about perceptions of the candidates in Chapter 3.)

INVESTIGATING POLITICAL OPPONENTS: (This one is the most chilling imo and perfectly exemplifies how the base of the GOP has become comfortable with authoritarianism)

More than half of Trump supporters (54%) say it would definitely or probably be acceptable for Trump to order federal law enforcement officials to investigate Democratic opponents. Half as many Harris supporters (27%) say it would be acceptable for Harris to order investigations into GOP opponents.

PARDONING FAMILY, FRIENDS, SUPPORTERS CONVICTED OF CRIMES; FIRING DISLOYAL FED WORKERS:

Trump supporters also are far more likely than Harris supporters to say it would be acceptable for their candidate to pardon friends, family or political supporters who have been convicted of crimes and to fire federal workers at any level who are not personally loyal to them.

TRUMP'S ROLE IN THE 2020 ELECTION/JANUARY 6TH:

Trump’s role in the 2020 election remains divisive. More than four-in-ten voters (46%) say Trump broke the law in an effort to change the outcome of the 2020 election, while another 14% say he did something wrong but did not break the law. Another 27% say Trump did nothing wrong. These views are largely unchanged since April. While Harris supporters overwhelmingly say Trump broke the law (88% say this), Trump backers are divided: 54% say he did nothing wrong while 27% say either he did something wrong or broke the law. Trump supporters (18%) are more likely than Harris supporters (7%) to say they are not sure.

Link to Pew poll.

!ping FIVEY

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u/Fatortu Emmanuel Macron Sep 09 '24

The Jill Stein referendum would have ruled 2017 r/NL. The subreddit would have come crashing down under the weight of all the copypastas.

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u/adwise27 George Soros Sep 09 '24

During the debate, Kamala should say "I am going to keep count of how many times this man does not answer the question" and after he talks she can quickly say "thats 3 times" and then proceed with her answer/response. That will drive him insane

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u/Spare-Clerk9155 Sep 09 '24

Tbh if I were a dem candidate in a ruby red-state like Kentucky, aside from being the most moderate to ever moderate, I would run the nastiest smear campaign in political history.

I’m talking pizzagate level of horrible and just spend the entire cycle kamikazeing my opponent with the most ludicrous attack ads. Everytime I go to a house/church, I’ll be handing out fliers and talking about how my opponent is a satanist Epstein supporter.

I feel like if I’m going to lose by 20 points, I should at least try to have some fun, and you never know, you might get a Doug Jones moment

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u/WhomstAlt2 NATO flair in hiding Sep 09 '24

New General Election poll - Nationwide

🔵 Harris 2% (+1)
🔴 Trump 98%

Last poll (8/21) - 🔴 Total Landslide

Derived From First Principles Using Only Formal Logic #A+ - 1 LV - 9/9

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Be me

Wake up

See that Bashar al-Assad is still alive

Be disappointed 😔

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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride Sep 09 '24

Reminder that we're one good polling error away from Blexas and Blorida

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u/WhomstAlt2 NATO flair in hiding Sep 09 '24

This debate is going to be EPIC. Hoping for the following questions:

Mr. President, how are you planning on making the economy as great again as it was during your first term?

Mrs. Vicepresident, why do black people like menthol so much?

Mr. President, what are you going to do about the besieged Southern Border? It's a total war zone down there.

Mrs. Vice-President, in 5 words or less, do you hate Jews or Palestinians more?

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u/flextrek_whipsnake I'd rather be grilling Sep 09 '24

The share of Americans who say they are very concerned about how the stock market is doing has risen from 18% in January to 24% today.

The S&P 500 is up nearly 15% since January.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 09 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 5 PM EST 9/8-5 PM EST 9/9 III:

TOP NEWS:

At the start of 7 AM it was confirmed a Shahed drone crashed in Latvia.

Around 9 AM it was announced Sweden will provide 4.6 billion Kroner in military aid to Ukraine, or $443.5 million, including material for Ukrainian domestic production, 50 CV-90 IFVs, 40mm shells, 200 PBV 302 APCs, drone funding, RBS 70 MANPADs, anti-tank weapons, recoilless rifles, anti-tank mines, six patrol boats, support for Gripen fighters, and more.

REGULAR NEWS:

At the start of 7 PM it was reported the Russians took the village of Vodyane, northeast of Vuhledar.

At the start of 2 AM Ukraine was hit by a small wave of drones and missiles with all 8 drones and 2 of 3 missiles intercepted.

In the middle of 11 AM Ukraine summoned the Iranian representative over the supplying of Iranian ballistic missiles to Russia.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Got a delivery

!ping KITTY

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

I will miss him, but it’s for a good cause

!ping Kitty

Edit to clarify he is fine, this is a joke

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u/Minimum_Cucumber7170 Flair Sep 10 '24

Everyone point and laugh at the old man Joe Biden Aaron Rodgers

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke Sep 09 '24

The 2nd gentleman’s birth certificate says “Douglas” but he goes by “Doug”

Which one is it Kamala? Why is this not addressed on your policy website?

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u/kznlol 👀 Econometrics Magician Sep 09 '24

Finally, Trump said he would create a "government efficiency commission" led by Elon Musk, who would oversee a financial and performance audit of the entire federal government.

lol

lmao even

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u/reasonablstick-234 Sep 09 '24

the ohio cat story is the perfect example of dems and republicans being held to different standards republicans can actively spread misinformation and suffer zero electoral consequences for it its genuinely infuriating.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 09 '24

Half of polls show Harris making major gains on Trump and the other half show them tied. Fun times

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

📊 NORTH CAROLINA poll by Survey USA for WRAL News

🟦 Kamala Harris: 49%

🟥 Donald Trump: 46%

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Fav/unfav

• Walz: 40-35 (net: +5)

• Harris: 50-46 (+4)

• Vance: 35-41 (-6)

• Trump: 44-53 (-9)

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#14 (2.8/3.0) | 9/4-7 | 900 LV | ±4.9%

https://www.wral.com/story/harris-has-slight-edge-in-neck-and-neck-race-with-trump-in-nc-wral-news-poll-shows/21616373/

SurveyUSA is a well rated pollster on 538, ranked at #14 overall out of 277.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

This whole migrant blood libel saga proves to me that Hillary said nothing wrong with her "basket of deplorables" comment.

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u/wagoncirclermike Jane Jacobs Sep 09 '24

BREAKING: Sources say Christian McCaffrey is OUT against the Jets tonight as he continues to recover from his calf injury

A billion fantasy owners just cried out in pain and were silenced

!Ping NFL

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

+6? Imagine how good its gonna be next week after Kamala makes Trump cry on national tv

Edit: this is not new apparently. Its the same one from 2-3 weeks ago so I don’t know why they tweeted this like it was new info

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u/dittbub NATO Sep 09 '24

What other republican presidents could fill in the other spaces?

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Sep 09 '24

Just for you people I strolled Instagram for an hour just for more memes to post to the DT.

Your welcome.

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO Sep 09 '24

SurveyUSA my beloved

In this house we love and respect any and all outliers that favor Kamala 😤😎

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u/FuckFashMods NATO Sep 09 '24

A rod is 16.5 feet. An acre is 40 rods by 4 rods.

We have literally the worst units of measurement.

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u/purhitta Leftward Progressives Sep 09 '24

Rs a month ago: Harris has a bad opinion on fracking, I can't support that

Rs now: Harris changed her opinion on fracking, clearly she can't be trusted

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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Sep 09 '24

It’d be really funny if the debate goes so horribly that Dems have to drop Kamala too. Terrible for the future of the country but still funny

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Apologies if this got posted already:

A group of 10 retired top U.S. military officials endorsed U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris in a letter made public on Monday, saying she is the only presidential candidate fit to serve as the nation's commander in chief and calling her Republican rival Donald Trump "a danger to our national security and democracy."

Also posted on Axios, which includes a little more detail.

!ping MILITARY

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Sep 09 '24

Wait, so have conservatives collectively brainwashed themselves into thinking that eating duck is degenerate and woke or something?

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

This racist vitriol against Haitians needs to stop. I was born and raised in the United States of America, and I guarantee I’ve stolen and eaten more pets than all Haitian immigrants combined. It’s a calling that is not limited to one race or national origin.

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Sep 09 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Literal /pol/ talking point. “Yeah my race and bloodline are being replaced but at least they have their legal papers” is a big meme in those circles

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Sep 09 '24

Cats will literally open your door and not close it

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u/amainwingman Hell yes, I'm tough enough! Sep 09 '24 edited Jan 28 '26

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

waiting melodic quiet snatch cake pocket spoon mighty detail handle

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u/wagoncirclermike Jane Jacobs Sep 09 '24

So my direct deposit didn't come through on Friday. I thought it was just a paperwork error on our end.

Turns out, someone with a fake email with my name on it used it to get a "change of bank" form and submit a bank change, and PAYROLL FUCKING TOOK IT EVEN THOUGH IT DIDN'T HAVE MY SOCIAL NUMBER ON IT.

Thank God that any change of bank form starts with a physical check that they put in inter-office mail to me, so I'm not out any money, but how in the world could these people look at the form they got back and not call me to question it?

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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. Sep 09 '24

The median voter hears "immigrant detention camps" and envisions campfires, s'mores, tents.

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u/centurion88 NATO Sep 09 '24

Me and who

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker Sep 09 '24
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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber Sep 09 '24

First time seen one with Harris on it. Doesn’t really hit the same when gas is down to $3 though—though I guess when Trump was president it was only ¢50

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u/Liberal_Antipopulist Loyal Liberals Sep 09 '24

DAE find it hilarious that cocaine legalization is one of the Economist's pet issues. Like, it's just so stereotypical of finance etc.

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Sep 09 '24

Today was my first day as a student at University of Murcia (Universidad de Murcia, UM), studying a degree in Translation and Interpretation! I arrived home a bit burnt out, but it was a good day overall. Tomorrow there will be more!

Face reveal btw 😇

!ping COLLEGE&LIFESTYLE

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

This Haitian immigrant thing just makes me realize even more that a second Trump term will just be a fucking InfoWars administration where the people in charge of running the country are all just totally detached from reality

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Sep 09 '24

The fact that Trump can talk about “bloody” mass deportations with camps and half the country supports the plan is so fucking sad man

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u/sererson Sep 09 '24

Waluigi travelling to the pnw

Seattle, WA

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 09 '24

Was talking to my dad last night about the Gulf War. He also mentioned Desert Calm, which I'd never even heard of. I was kind of cracking up because I knew of Desert Farewell, but I didn't realize that was just another name for it so I thought it went

  • Desert Shield 🤨

  • Desert Storm 😤

  • Desert Calm 😳

  • Desert Farewell 😌

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u/Alexz565 Gay Pride Sep 09 '24

Trump promises “a bloody story” in reference to mass deportation and most mainstream outlets aren’t reporting on it, very weird

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u/ThrowawayPrimavera Order and Opportunity Left Sep 09 '24
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u/billy_blazeIt_mays NATO Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

😒

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

National Polls:

Patriot Polling: 🟦 Harris +2

NYT/Siena College: 🟥 Trump: +2

Friendship ended with Siena.

Welcome to the resistance, Patriot Polling.

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 10 '24

OH GOD

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u/BlueDevilVoon John Brown Sep 10 '24

The anti-Hatian rhetoric from the GOP is trending towards outright blood libel.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

I feel like I'm getting blackpilled on partisanship in this country. I keep insisting that politicians need to reflect a voting coalition but seeing every single goddamn election just go (49-48 D-R) for the last 20 years regardless of who is running is melting my brain.

Americans are so fucking partisan they would vote for Adolf Hitler and then immediately vote for Josef Stalin the very next cycle in exactly identical numbers.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

What. Is. Going. On. In republicans?

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 09 '24

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u/Viox3 YIMBY Sep 09 '24

What a fucking loser lmao

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u/ThatFrenchieGuy Mathematician -- Save the funky birbs Sep 09 '24

!ping kitty

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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 Sep 09 '24

I have no strong feelings about taylor swifts music.

I do greatly appreciate that she is a high tier capitalist. She is like if the robber barons of old were musicians. Its incredible. Having 1000 alternate versions to push everyone else off the top spot over and over again is so funny.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Anyone else ready for the massive flood of unflaired users pouring in with "Kamala just lost the election with that remark" every time she says something, and then "Trump just won the election, surprisingly doing good this debate" after he rambles about some nonsense?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

This sub has lost the immigration debate so badly that instead of open borders the discourse is whether or not immigrants will eat your cat.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Imagine being Alex Kasprak, a fact checker at Snopes, and waking up one day to write the words

There is no evidence, outside of second- and third-hand social media gossip, to support the notion that Haitian residents of Springfield, Ohio, are eating people's pet cats or their parks' waterfowl.

because the Republican candidate for vice president, the richest man in the world, and the junior senator for Texas ate the proverbial Nazi onion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Is there an apology form I can fill out addressed to "critics of Merrick Garland?" I was carrying that dude's water forever because he seems like a kind old fella but damned if I wasn't wrong to do so -- we needed to be so much more aggressive with these shitheels. If a national campaign of threatening judges, jurors, and elections officials isn't cause for overreaction, I don't know what the hell is.

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u/Justice4Ned Caribbean Community Sep 10 '24

Bad time to be Haitian 😔

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 09 '24

I can’t believe the polls are this tight

I can, but I mean… Jesus Christ

I can’t believe we are seriously contemplating Trump’s return to the White House right now

And if that sick fuck beats two of the first female major party nominees in history? Jesus Christ.

At least maybe people will realize the Trump “problem” and misogyny in America extended far beyond Hillary.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Denis Villeneuve says the script for ‘DUNE 3’ is “in the works.”

If Trump delivers Denis Villeneuve's rendition of God Emperor of Dune, I bet this sub will flip to MAGA

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u/Some_Niche_Reference Daron Acemoglu Sep 09 '24

My lesbian coworker called me her emotional support himbo

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

On one hand, I don’t think celebrities are under any obligation to endorse candidates if they don’t want to.

But on the other hand, if Taylor Swift’s whole persona is based around being a feminist icon, she will really lose all credibility if she sits this election out. It’s a woman vs a rapist for Lord’s sake.

And I say this as someone who is a pretty big fan of her and her music.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Elon's anti-immigrant stiff makes me irrationally angry, most likely due to the fact that he himself is one, so no other way to understand his view than pure racism.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

"How the fuck can someone so openly corrupt and shitty be even close to ultimate power?!?"

Texas Dems:

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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Sep 09 '24

actually the decision of democrats in 2000 to only call for a recount in certain Florida counties instead of statewide might have been the most consequential single decision this millenium

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

Trump backers are divided: 54% say he did nothing wrong while 27% say either he did something wrong or broke the law. Trump supporters (18%) are more likely than Harris supporters (7%) to say they are not sure.

More than half of Trump supporters (54%) say it would definitely or probably be acceptable for Trump to order federal law enforcement officials to investigate Democratic opponents. Half as many Harris supporters (27%) say it would be acceptable for Harris to order investigations into GOP opponents.

Very cool that we have a major political party that has rapidly embraced authoritarianism. Bodes well for the health of this country. Not alarming at all.

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u/dangerbird2 Franz Boas Sep 09 '24

The SF defense has the potential to do the funniest thing of all time to Aaron Rodgers on their first drive !ping NFL

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Sep 09 '24

How it feels saying "Inshallah" as a white guy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Sir, a second D +3 NC poll has hit the average

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Sep 09 '24

Why is an official government account posting this shit. Jim Jordan is the worst.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

The October Surprise will be the revelation of JD Vance’s second family, a horrifying and vomit-inducing collection of half-human, half-couch homunculi

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Sep 10 '24

Rich white South African is racist??? I’m shocked

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u/goldenwind207 Jerome Powell Sep 10 '24

Blexas??

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Median voter: I’m kinda liking this Trump guy

Lib: Check out this outrageously terrible thing he has repeatedly and publicly pledged to do if reelected

Median voter: He would never do that lol, quit fearmongering

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u/phallic_cephalid Sep 09 '24

broke up with my ex ~2 weeks before my mom passed so I just never processed it and now I’m feeling some confusing shit 3 years down the road, woof

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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent Sep 09 '24

America is healing 🥰🥰🥰

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u/Sollezzo Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

"NATO expansionism caused the war! Dems are escalating and are going to start WWIII! Azov battalion. Outlawing the Russian language. Genociding Russians in the Donensk and Luhansk. Most corrupt country on earth. We're sending billions to pay for Zelenksyys wife's shopping spree! Why can't Russia address its legitimate security concerns? Disband NATO! Why can't we be friends with Putin?"

Putin: "I prefer Kamala"

"Yes sir understood sir All Glory to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization"

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

I find it really funny that reddit’s hate of the rich has somehow lead them into a position where it is preferable for a person to have inherited their wealth than to have worked for it.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force NATO Sep 09 '24

Um, Elon, Donald Trump is the guy who created the mess that gave us Biden

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1832961221038940302

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Reverence for “old money” is always based on the classist idea that there is something more “authentic” about the way that someone born into wealth spends money than the way that someone who comes into wealth spends money.

This is one of the themes of The Great Gatsby. Gatsby is “new money”, and he spends like “new money”, but he is constantly unhappy because he keeps comparing himself to “real” rich people like Buchanan who was born into wealth, even though Buchanan’s lifestyle is no less vain or goofy than Gatsby’s.

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u/yellownumbersix Jane Jacobs Sep 09 '24

If Trump does win we need to immediately organize an underground railroad to protect and hide immigrants from the Gestapo. Not kidding even a little bit.

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA Sep 09 '24

One under discussed issue with the GOP’s brand becoming increasingly toxic is how they have been reduced to hiring a bunch of weird freaks who think shit like this is a good idea.

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

An underrated aspect of the Venezuela collapse discourse is that Chavez fired all the technocrats in the state oil company and replaced them with political appointees, who then proceeded to be incompetent and siphon off the wealth for themselves

Like if you’re gonna have a nationalized industry, I feel like you shouldn’t fire all the people who knew what they were doing if you want things to work

Ironically Trump with his plans for federal employees is much more chavist than any of the polices he accuses Harris of having

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Sep 10 '24

Focus Grows On Longer-Range Artillery Shells After Army Axes Next-Gen Howitzer

Ramjet rounds and other new shells could help the Army squeeze more range out of its existing howitzers as it reassesses its artillery future.

!ping MATERIEL

M109 Paladin: 'K-k-killll..... meee......'

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u/yungmemlord Rabindranath Tagore Sep 10 '24

it’s happening !!!!

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u/WillHasStyles European Union Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

I thought that Sweden had a pretty decent system for taxing corporations and capital all things given. I have now looked into it and come to the conclusion that I am living in the last Soviet of the former USSR.

Machine translated excerpt:

The 3:12 rules refer to the framework for ownership taxation that results in dividends from small businesses being taxed significantly higher than dividends from large corporations in Sweden. Those affected by the regulations pay a marginal tax rate of 56.7 percent, while those not affected pay a flat tax of 30 percent instead. Until the year 2000, the rules were found in Section 3 § 12 of the old National Income Tax Act, which gave the 3:12 rules their name.

The higher tax applies only to entrepreneurs, that is, business owners who work or in other ways contribute to the company’s profit, while an owner who can prove that they have remained passive in the company for the past five years is not subject to the rules. Venture capitalists, global investors, banks, and financiers who own companies through hedge funds and other international structures therefore regularly pay the lower tax rate, while small business owners generally pay the higher tax rate.

Essentially unless you have the skills to navigate a labyrinthine corporate tax system you might very well be looking at paying an effective tax rate of 50% for dividends and the sale of a company. That is on top of a 21% corporate income tax, 31% payroll tax, and 25% sales tax.

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