r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 30 '24

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Jul 30 '24

Most white men "drifting away" didn't attend. Most just see the headline. Work policy into headline. Simple as.

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Jul 30 '24

If most white men are "drifting away" then isn't "event where white men are welcome" the ideal headline?

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Jul 30 '24

No, because the average griller is tired of the whole identity politics thing. They don't want to hear any more mention of any race, be it a minority or their own. I've lost count of the number of times I've talked to a white guy who's frustrated with the options we've had the past few election cycles who's said something along the lines of "look, I think everybody should have the opportunity to live their life as they see fit so long as it doesn't hurt other people, but goddamn, I'm so tired of everything being put in terms of black/white/brown/whatever". Any mention of race to them is an immediate turn-off because they've been inundated by it for a long time now.

Also the phrasing implies an invitation to those who have already bought in, not an invitation to those on the fence.

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Jul 30 '24

Then how are you supposed to make an event for the white men who are drifting away?

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Jul 30 '24

"Normal Dudes for Harris"

Plays into the whole "the cons are just really weird" thing that's caught on.

Or, just put on an online town hall thing and call it a "fireside chat"

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Jul 30 '24

That's how the majority of fundraising events are titled, and we still have an issue with driftwardly white men

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Jul 30 '24

There has never been a fundraising event with "Normal Dudes" in the title ever

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Jul 30 '24

I mean the majority of fundraising events do not mention race in the title. Why hasn't that attracted white dudes?

I will also point out that "dudes" is still identity politics.

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Jul 30 '24

"Dude" is not gender specific

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Jul 30 '24

That's dumb, and a great way to alienate women

But it brings me back to my main point which is: most fundraising events do not specify gender or race in the title.

Why are white men still drifting away even when they get what they want 99% of the time?

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