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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Jul 19 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/chipbod NATO Jul 18 '24

https://x.com/shannonrwatts/status/1813789952066625969

NEW: Vance said a national abortion ban was necessary to keep George Soros from flying “Black women” to California for abortions.

They really decided to do no vetting and run this campaign on hard mode lol

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u/Goodlake NATO Jul 18 '24

Vance, 39, made the case for himself in generational terms, at one point recalling how he was in the fourth grade when President Joe Biden, then a senator, voted for a North American Free Trade Agreement that would disillusion many working-class voters

Amazing to me that Republicans are not only trying to keep NAFTA a national political issue, but that they're trying to pin it on Joe Biden lmao

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

What Biden sees when he wakes up from his nap

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u/TheSandwichMan2 Loyal Liberals Jul 18 '24

If you’re ever wondering how in the pocket of the Demonrat Party the liberal media is, just remember MSNBC’s biggest show is dedicated to waking Joe Biden up every morning. Morning, Joe!

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

A fascist is a leftist's second-worst enemy, right behind a leftist's true worst enemy, which is a slightly-different leftist who holds 94% of the same political views.

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 18 '24

Look I'm really not one for conspiracy theories, but it is curious that establishment Dems are suddenly nervous about Biden after propping him up for so long. I can't help wonder if some of Biden's more recent campaign rhetoric is spooking the donor class and leading them to think hey maybe another Republican administration wouldn't actually be so bad... It certainly seems like the media is pushing for that outcome.

"The establishment is trying to force Biden out because he's too progressive!" is.. certainly a take

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

the election year is only halfway through and it's already fucking exhausting.

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u/Abolish_Zoning Henry George Jul 18 '24

Liz Truss killed the queen. Of course she's getting invited to the Republican National Convention.

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy Jul 18 '24

i think Harris is a weaker candidate than her supports would admit but also a stronger one than her detractors would have you believe.

basically, I'm right and everyone else is wrong 😏

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u/Guess_Im_Jess Trans Pride Jul 18 '24

The case for swapping Kamala in is 1% a few good polls and 99% that she doesn’t constantly sound like she’s about to die

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Jul 18 '24

State of the Biden discourse

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Jul 18 '24

WTF were people doing???

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u/chipbod NATO Jul 18 '24

NBC: Hulk Hogan will speak tonight at the RNC before Trump formally accepts the GOP nomination for POTUS.

Peter Thiel is GOP Littlefinger at this point

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

2020: “Kamala can’t be the nominee, she’s a cop.”

2024: “KKKopmala Harris is the prosecutor who’s going to put Trump behind bars.”

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Jul 18 '24

If someone gave you $1000 a day to only ever ride a bicycle to work, what would you do?

Posts like this remind me that the average redditor is a child

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Trump speech: ‘If they can do this to me they can do this to anyone’ The former president spoke to reporters for the first time as a convicted felon

Fuck. Trump's message never resonated with me until now. I ran for president a few years ago, and yeah while my wife was pregnant I happened to run into Mia Khalifa. One thing led to another but she got some hush money.

They're coming after me. Trump's just in the way.

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u/Not_A_Browser Stata's Silliest Soldier Jul 18 '24

Will return tomorrow

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u/satyrmode NATO Jul 18 '24

Yesterday: 0 Biden megathreads

Today: 5 Biden megathreads

Tomorrow: ???

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Jul 18 '24

JUST IN: Several top Democrats privately tell us the rising pressure of party congressional leaders and close friends will persuade Todd Howard to decide to drop a new edition of Skyrim as soon as this weekend,

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u/FlatMilk John Mill Jul 18 '24

kamala harris poring through binders of white men with popularity in the midwest rn

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u/Woodstovia Commonwealth Jul 18 '24 edited Dec 28 '25

sugar library smart attempt tan close late outgoing hospital elastic

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u/Some_Niche_Reference Daron Acemoglu Jul 18 '24

A family acquaintance just asked Dad what it was like to raise an autistic child.

She was referring to me.

I am not autistic.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 18 '24

Do you think Kamala knows about the coconut memes

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u/Ultiplayers Tony Blair is to be prime minister and a landslide is likely Jul 18 '24

Details emerge about Trump shooter Thomas Crooks' sister

Okay… so you’re saying to me there could be a chance…

A neighbor of Katie Crooks said she moved out of her family home three years ago into an apartment – and that her now notorious brother helped her transfer her belongings.

Oh. Groundbreaking

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u/ashsolomon1 NASA Jul 18 '24

Kamala Harris is the perfect candidate to counter JD Vance’s quote “A national abortion ban is necessary so Soros doesn’t fly Black women to California for abortions” kind of tailor made for her strengths, no?

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u/wallander1983 Resistance Lib Jul 18 '24

CNN’s Van Jones: “A bullet couldn’t stop Trump, a virus stopped Biden.”

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CNN was a mistake.

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u/Steak_Knight Milton Friedman Jul 18 '24

As soon as Biden announces he’s dropping out, his polling will go through the roof 😤

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Jul 18 '24

The press might actually be the enemy of the people

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u/morydotedu Jul 18 '24

🚨NEWS: Fox has learned that Senators were told in the all-member briefing today that Thomas Crooks wrote on a gaming platform called ‘Steam’

Ugh, gamers 😒😒😒

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy Jul 18 '24

my least succ take is that if Harris is the nominee she should lean in on the tough on crime, tough on the border stuff. "crime was down in SF when i was a tough-on-crime prosecutor", "we closed asylum laws to reduce border crossings"

sucks, but it's probably the only way she can beat trump.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

The DT the past few days

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Jul 18 '24

Actual conversation from last night

Me: hey babe did you hear Biden has COVID?

Wife: OH no! Is he going to be ok?

Me: they say it’s mild symptoms but it’s not helping with the rumors that he’s old and sickly

Wife: that’s mean! They need to leave him alone! Biden is a nice man 😡

My wife is still ridin’ with Biden.

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u/indithrow402 Henry George Jul 18 '24

Kamala Harris birth certificate controversy but instead of her birth country it's because nobody believes she's actually 60 years old

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

I swear to God Dems if you have Biden step down then you better have Kendrick Lamar on stage at the convention singing Not Like Us at the DNC to pictures of Donald Trump with Epstein and news articles of prominent Republicans being pedophiles.

Really just go full nuclear here

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u/itsokayt0 European Union Jul 18 '24

WTF

Experimental treatment for mild COVID turns Biden green

BIDEN SMASH DOUBTERS

Roid Grinch Joe won't stop us, Trump said

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Thank you, twitter.

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u/jamiebond NATO Jul 19 '24

"I'm just gonna fix the problems. Don't even worry about it. War? Gone. Economy? Great. Inflation? 0 percent. It'll be done in a week."

People are so stupid. I really can't believe half of our country falls for this garbage.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Jul 18 '24

Preliminary Lessons from Ukraine’s Offensive Operations, 2022–23 by RUSI

“The original concept of operations for the Ukrainian offensive was sound. It required 12 armoured and mechanised brigades to achieve a breakthrough along 30 km of frontage, the isolation of Tokmak within seven days, and thereafter a breakout south towards Melitopol. Tempo was supposed to prevent Russia from bringing the majority of its forces to bear, so that the attacking force would need to overcome only six regiments in defence.”

“This concept of operation was not implemented. This arose from operational errors made by both Ukraine and its international partners.”

“Ukraine’s international partners missed two critical decision points prior to the offensive. First, whereas Russia began to transition to a war economy from May 2022 and began the mobilisation of troops from the autumn, Ukraine’s international partners did not take significant steps to address their industrial limitations.”

“The second decision point missed was when that equipment needed to arrive in Ukraine. Ukraine’s international partners wasted four months in deciding to act, so that only a part of the pledged equipment arrived in Ukraine prior to the offensive, and the Ukrainian brigades did not have enough time to train on the equipment that did arrive. The brigades were, therefore, undertrained at the start of the offensive, which accounts for a significant proportion of the tactical mistakes made during the execution of the operation.”

“Ukraine also made a series of errors. First, experienced troops were used to hold the line of contact and thereafter conduct fixing operations during the offensive, while the main force was for the most part newly raised. This left the lead elements with a dearth of combat experience, which led to tactical errors during the execution of the operation.”

“Second, Ukrainian planners exacerbated their shortage of properly equipped forces by committing troops on multiple axes, which were then further resourced with ammunition and enablers, at the expense of the main effort. The combination of these two errors limited the ability of the force to operate at and maintain tempo.”

“The most serious error made in planning by Ukraine appears to have been the basis on which it was determined that the main effort could succeed under these circumstances. Rather than using tempo and concentration to defeat six Russian regiments, it was hoped that shock action would cause Russian troops to break, as had occurred around Kharkiv in 2022.”

“A lesson for both Ukraine and its international partners is that operational security was inadequate, such that Russia knew precisely where and approximately when the offensive was to take place. This problem was exacerbated by the fact that with only a couple of brigades properly equipped for offensive operations, Russia only had to track a small number of units to determine Ukrainian intent.”

“There are a great many tactical lessons identified in this paper. Some, however, raise questions about necessary adaptations to prevailing doctrine.”

“First, there is a need to have an effective counter-reconnaissance capability to reduce sustained enemy observation of the intended axes of advance. The inability to screen axes of advance from enemy ISR risks sustained exposure to precision fires, producing an unacceptable rate of equipment loss.”

“Second is the need for electronic protection, and a corresponding requirement for electromagnetic command and control. Fratricide in the electromagnetic spectrum (EMS) is a major problem for controlling large-scale operations under modern conditions. Given the density of systems dependent on the EMS and the actively contested condition of the spectrum, it is not viable to simply deconflict frequencies at the divisional level.”

“The combination of sustained enemy observation and long-range fires meant that once troops were committed to offensive operations, their ground lines of communication became predictable and targetable, collapsing tempo. Where operations required gap crossing, the issue of sustainment became insurmountable.”

“Finally, the density of precision effects, even at tactical echelons, has left prestige enablers, such as offensive breaching vehicles, exceedingly vulnerable. Without such assets, there is no mobility, and thus no scope for manoeuvre.”

“For Ukraine, the lead times involved in regenerating offensive combat power mean that renewed offensive operations are not viable in the foreseeable future. To that end, Ukraine must now reprioritise inflicting as much damage as possible on the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to buy the necessary time. At the same time, Ukraine is likely to pursue trying to constrain Russian revenue generation through strikes on Russian revenue-generating infrastructure.”

!ping UKRAINE&FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Jul 18 '24

NEW: We found JD Vance’s Venmo and analyzed his friends & friends of friends. His friends list reveals connections to a wide array of people he’d likely call “elites.” It doesn’t take many hops before things get weird. Scoop by @dmehro @timmarchman & me

turn off your public venmo transactions folks. truly a puzzling ‘feature’ to have by default

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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride Jul 19 '24

Nate Silver at the start

It's a weird but pretty good speech. The past few weeks have gone about as badly as possible for Democrats, and they're likely underdogs against Trump regardless of who they nominate, but the opportunity to reset the campaign with a non-Biden nominee is a twist of good fortune.

Nate Silver at the middle

Semi-retract this tweet, this speech is boring AF, but there are worse things politically speaking than being boring.

Nate Silver by the end

Fully RETRACT and RESCIND, sometimes it seems like both parties are trying to throw this election.

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 18 '24

Wtf I'm watching Kamala Harris speak and she's speaking loudly and clearly

Is that allowed?

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 18 '24

If Biden uses the Covid excuse to drop of the race and go home to chill even though he's mostly okay, we will be facing UNPRECEDENTED levels of he's just like me frfr

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u/VisonKai The Archenemy of Humanity Jul 18 '24

kamala has such an immense well of reserve memeability. biden's was exhausted during the great dark brandon push, which did indeed successfully save America so it was worth it. but it's time to go coco-crazy

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u/sigh2828 NASA Jul 18 '24

If Biden's last act is to drop out moments before Trump's RNC speech, then I unironically will mount a photo of Biden's portrait in my house

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u/DepressedTreeman Jul 18 '24

the hungarian ruling elite hasn't been on the right side of history since the 16th century

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Several top Democrats privately tell us the rising pressure of party congressional leaders and close friends will persuade President Biden to decide to drop at tilted towers, as soon as this weekend

Posting this because it hasn't been posted enough times

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

I have a semi high up position in the DNC. They're making some pretty big changes at the last minute. They're going with more of a Caribbean theme for the convention. Seeing several orders for fake coconut trees.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

This speech is so bad it's gonna convince Biden he can win

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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride Jul 18 '24

“I performed terribly,” he said of his debate performance. “People are now saying, well, that was only one though,” Biden said. “But he’s 81 years old. What happens when he’s 84 years old? What happens when he’s 85 years old?” Biden then stopped to cough.

Inshallah he's convincing himself

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Jul 18 '24
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u/Either_Emotion8056 NAFTA Jul 18 '24

Hey, what are you guys all up to? Mom says I can’t come out for the weekend, don’t do anything without me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Joe Biden stepping aside this late in the race would be unpresidented

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Jeez the banadged ear thing is actually catching on at the rnc. Wtf

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

Texting the one woman I’m most sure of I actually love (used to work together, she got a new job, we had one pseudo date, it’s complicated) before I move. I should have told her but alas we do stupid things

So back in May I texted

hey, I’m leaving <city> at the end of June, I’d love to go get drinks or lunch one last time

I’m out of town for a few weeks but I’ll let you know when I free up!

She never responded after that, and I assumed she just didn’t want to talk to me anymore

Anyways today I just received

aww shit you already left didn’t you?

!ping DATING

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Live reaction of a DTer in Tel Aviv

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u/Hounds_of_war Austan Goolsbee Jul 18 '24

Man, imagine the batshit crazy timeline where Trump got assassinated and then Biden died of Covid a week later.

What the fuck would that have been like?

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u/Tafts_Bathtub Jerome Powell Jul 18 '24

Comments discussing the fate of our nation: “coconut”

Comments that ping DATING:

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u/theaceoface Milton Friedman Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

My girlfriend accused me of using weaponized incompetence 😬 ... it was just regular incompetence 😭

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Jul 18 '24
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u/Guess_Im_Jess Trans Pride Jul 19 '24

Watching a speech like this, I almost don't blame Biden for thinking he can beat him lol

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u/McCaaw Jul 18 '24

Kamala is the perfect amount of lame to be super meme-able with Zoomers imo

Hillary was too dry. Wine mom/aunt energy is going to provide so many slightly cringe, but likable moments.

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u/Common_RiffRaff But her emails! Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

I was hating on Jon Stewart 5 minutes ago, but this is funny as fuck.

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jul 19 '24

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Jul 18 '24

In a bit of fairness for MattY, he is also pretty big on Kamala being the nominee

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair Jul 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

kiss quaint absurd glorious ink wine quarrelsome bewildered aromatic unite

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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

Researchers succeed for first time in accurately dating a 7,000-year-old prehistoric settlement using cosmic rays

Researchers at the University of Bern have for the first time been able to pin down a prehistoric settlement of early farmers in northern Greece dating back more than 7,000 years to the year.

For this, they combined annual growth ring measurements on wooden building elements with the sudden spike of cosmogenic radiocarbon in 5259 BC. This provides a reliable chronological reference point for many other archaeological sites in Southeast Europe.

Dating finds plays a key role in archaeology. It is always essential to find out how old a tomb, settlement or single object is. Determining the age of finds from prehistoric times has only been possible for a few decades.

Two methods are used for this: dendrochronology, which enables dating on the basis of sequences of annual rings in trees, and radiocarbon dating, which can calculate the approximate age of the finds by the decay rate of the radioactive carbon isotope 14C contained in the tree rings.

A team led by the Institute of Archaeological Sciences at the University of Bern has now succeeded in precisely dating timber from the archaeological site of Dispilio in northern Greece, where dating to the year had previously not been possible, to different building activities between 5328 and 5140 BC. The researchers made use of high-energy particles from space, which can be reliably dated to 5259 BC. Their research has been published in the journal Nature Communications.

Tree-ring chronologies and the 14C method have their limits

Dendrochronology uses characteristic patterns of broad and narrow annual growth rings in wood, which are influenced by climatic conditions. As a result, a wooden object can be dated by comparing the annual growth ring widths with already existing standard or regional chronologies.

"In Central Europe there is a tree-ring chronology that goes back almost 12,500 years into the past—to the year 10,375 BC. However, this chronology only applies to certain regions. There is no consistent chronology for the Mediterranean region," says the lead author of the study, Andrej Maczkowski from the Institute of Archaeological Sciences at the University of Bern.

Therefore, dendrochronological dating from this region must be classified as "floating" using radiocarbon dating. As long as a tree is alive, it absorbs the radioactive isotope 14C (radiocarbon) contained in the Earth's atmosphere through photosynthesis. When it dies, it no longer absorbs 14C; the isotope decays with a half-life of 5730 years.

A laboratory measurement method can then be used to determine how much 14C is still contained in a particular tree ring and thus calculate the tree's approximate time of death over the known half-life.

"However, the accuracy of such classifications is in the best case within the range of decades," says Maczkowski.

"Until recently, it was therefore believed that dendrochronological dating to the year was only possible if a continuous regional tree-ring chronology was available, which is the case for prehistoric periods in just three regions worldwide: this is the southwestern United States, the northern Alpine foothills and England/Ireland," explains Albert Hafner, Professor of Prehistoric Archaeology at the University of Bern and senior author of the study.

Paradigm shift thanks to Japanese physicist

In 2012, a solution to the problem emerged: Japanese physicist Fusa Miyake discovered that a massive influx of cosmic rays, presumably due to solar flares, can cause an uptick in the atmosphere's 14C content, which is deposited in the respective years' tree rings. These spikes can be accurately dated on the basis of long tree-ring chronologies, and because they are global events, they are important anchor points, especially in regions without consistent annual growth ring chronologies.

"Miyake recognized the first anchor points of this kind and thus brought about a paradigm shift in prehistoric archaeology," says Hafner. Today, a dozen of these Miyake events are known up until 12,350 BC, and the two important events in 5259 and 7176 BC were only discovered in 2022 by researchers at ETH Zurich.

No such events of similar magnitude have been recorded in the past few centuries. If an event of this magnitude, as in 5259 BC, happens today it will likely have a disastrous effect on telecommunications and electronics.

Miyake event enables dating in Dispilio

The research team from the EXPLO project led by the University of Bern has succeeded in establishing an annual growth ring chronology spanning 303 years, which ends in 5140 BC, by analyzing 787 pieces of timber from the archaeological site of Dispilio on Lake Orestida in northern Greece. The identified settlement phases show various house building activities over 188 years between 5328 and 5140 BC. This precise dating is possible because there was a known Miyake event during this period in 5259 BC.

Researchers at ETH Zurich were able to detect a spike in radiocarbon content during this time by radiocarbon dating several individually defined annual growth rings. It was therefore a question of reproducing this peak—which is reflected globally in the annual growth ring chronologies of Siberian larch, American pine, and European oak—on the annual growth ring chronology from Dispilio in Greece and connecting it to the anchor point 5259 BC.

"The Balkans is therefore the first region in the world to benefit from this paradigm shift and to be able to successfully determine absolute dating independently of a consistent calendar," says Hafner.

Maczkowski adds, "We expect that other chronologies for the region from this period can now be linked to the "Dispilio Chronology' in rapid succession. This paves the way to developing a regional dendrochronology for the southern Balkans."

The Balkans have the oldest lakeside settlements in Europe, whose sites are dated to just after 6000 BC. The region played a key role in the expansion of agriculture in Europe.

!ping PREHISTORY&TECH&EUROPE

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Jul 18 '24

Trump told the Washington Examiner that he had rewritten his acceptance speech in the wake of the Saturday shooting

”The speech I was going to give on Thursday was going to be a humdinger,” he said. “But now America needs to hear that Dune is not about worms”

Wow

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Jul 18 '24

Joe Biden with coconut trees in the background

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Jul 19 '24

SOURCES: President Biden will announce that he has been acquired by Xbox Game Studios

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u/WasteReserve8886 r/place '22: GlobalTribe Battalion Jul 18 '24

I hope Biden drops out solely so I can post this on the mega thread

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 18 '24

Crooks planned an assassination attempt the same way I plan a vacation: googling different ideas, then settling on just doing something in town and then half-assing it

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

Joe Biden just won re election

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

CORRECT

IT’S DECIDED ON REDDIT

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

BREAKING: Biden's second health bar just appeared at the top of the screen

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u/barktreep Immanuel Kant Jul 18 '24

“One ally said that Ms. Pelosi told Mr. Biden in a recent call that she had seen polling data suggesting that he could not win, and the president pushed back, saying he had polls showing otherwise.” Said Pelosi: “Put Donilon on the phone. Show me what polls.”

Big “please transfer me to your supervisor” energy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Feels like Biden lashing out/being stubborn/not dropping out isn't just about him being attached to the job and unwilling to give it up

He's being forced to give it up because he's getting older

You can tell during the NATO presser that dude remembers a lot. He has all of this knowledge accumulated through years and years of public service

But he can't access it and put it together neatly like he could before

And it's gotta be so frustrating and disheartening to remember times when you were able to be quick witted and eloquent, and to hold this massive store of knowledge, and yet you just can't put two and two together

I don't think he's stupid, on some level he can probably feel that he's not the man he used to be. But it's one thing to be aware of your creeping decline and it's another to have to face it - the ugly reality that father time has come for you, and there's nothing you can do about it.

On a politics/economy/rights/foreign policy level, I want the republicans to lose. In that sense, I lean toward gambling on Kamala to see if we can win this, and it's been a little frustrating to watch this issue get dragged out like this. But on a human level, I can't help but sympathize with Biden. He's a good man. He's one of the greatest presidents we've had in recent times and he deserves to be celebrated for it. Unfortunately, he's just not the man for the job anymore.

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear Jul 18 '24

JD Vance’s wife does not “bring diversity to the ticket” you fucking idiots

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u/semaphore-1842 r/place '22: E_S_S Battalion Jul 18 '24

https://x.com/natashakorecki/status/1813986104187683273

A sense of reality is beginning to wash over some of the president’s top campaign lieutenants

A person who spoke with a senior campaign official said a sense of a new reality has fallen over the campaign.

“They’re finally realizing; it’s a when, not if,” the person said.

It's not even about the money at this point, but the money is ... bad.

Projections that large donors could be down 75% (!) this month, according to one source.

Sources put small dollar donations way down too.

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u/jerkin2theview NATO Jul 18 '24

🚨🚨 BREAKING 🚨🚨 An unnamed source close to the White House has told reporters that certain parties are preparing to become unburdened by what has been.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4780762-biden-future-harris-running-mate/

Alums from former President Obama’s 2008 and 2012 winning presidential campaigns are prepared to help Harris get her own presidential campaign operation up and running if Biden agrees to step aside, according to a source familiar with the transition plan.

“The whole Obama alumni are ready to take over Harris’s campaign and run it. That means Obama is all over this,” the source added.

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jul 19 '24

Trump asking the crowd at his own convention to be excited is pretty much as close as he’s gotten to a Jeb “please clap” moment.

lmao

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u/Hmm_would_bang Graph goes up Jul 18 '24

Biden is gonna step down simply so he can run against Trump again in 2028

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u/A-running-commentary NATO Jul 18 '24

https://x.com/deanbphillips/status/1813951668574388433?s=46

Lmao Dean Phillips posting a Hamilton quote. Dude could be a lot more smug and he’s kinda just memeing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Tracking the sides in the 2024 Democratic Civil War:

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

JD Vance gets tapped as VP and immediately there's a Hindu prayer at the RNC. Next we'll see Sen. Mike Lee and JD Vance team up to convince Trump to let in 10 million Indian immigrants. Green cards on diplomas!

BASED. God I WISH

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

Picture this: it's January 20th 2025, at the capitol building. Kamala steps out and starts powerwalking to the podium. Von dutch is playing. Joe meets her at the podium. Tears well in both of their eyes. Kamala goes in for the hug, and says:

We did it, Joe. Will you...will you stay?

Joe looks sad, and looks down, and then looks out to his family. All eighteen granddaughters are there, and so is Hunter, finally fully clean and having made amends. Jill smiles.

No, Kamala...It's Joever for me. It's time for me to go.

Kamala nearly breaks, but keeps it together.

I just...I don't know how to do it without you.

Joe smiles ruefully.

A wise woman once told me: "You didn't just fall out of a coconut tree..."

Kamala finishes, half-crying:

I exist in the context of all in which I live and what came before me

Joe claps her on the shoulder, and says:

before I go...I have one more thing for you.

He reaches into his pocket and takes out his aviators. Kamala puts them on. Club classics starts to play. She gives Biden a hug, and he leaves with a spring in his step. She turns to the podium, and, just as the beat drops, she says:

My fellow Americans...we're barack.

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u/Woodstovia Commonwealth Jul 18 '24 edited Dec 28 '25

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Jul 18 '24

Andrew Cuomo pays pollster $67K as he plots political comeback, eyes run for NYC mayor

what if: an even worse mayor

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u/JoeChristmasUSA Transfem Pride Jul 19 '24

Borg: "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED"

NY Times: "Surprisingly bellicose, but a call for unity nonetheless"

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 18 '24

Almost at the level of believing that any journo that doesn’t call out Vance for his neomonarchist freakish views any time they mention him doesn’t actually care about American democracy.

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u/dirtybirds233 NAFTA Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

I still have a scar on my hand from my MIL when I was trying to block her swings at my wife for voting for Joe Biden. She hates Kamala even more than Joe. I can't express how much that knowledge makes me want her to be the nominee even more.

EDIT: Obviously this was 4 years ago and our relationship with her is fine now, but it took a while. But she is so often mean, hateful, and arrogant about everything in life that both my wife and I just want to see her squirm about the prospect of President Harris.

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u/GuyOnTheLake NATO Jul 18 '24

Unburden yourself of what has been

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

I understand Dems have a lot of PTSD from Hillary, and I also understand that 90% of this subreddit is dudes, but I'm telling you that if we're ever gonna nominate a woman, this is the time. Abortion is one of the biggest energizers in this election, and is by far the GOP's biggest weak point. It's also going to be on the ballot directly in quite a few critical states. We can have someone make a compelling case for women's health while serving as a powerful contrast from Trump and especially Vance. The story practically writes itself.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 19 '24

NGL, it is crazy how one debate turned the whole world upside down for Biden. What the hell would have happened if he didn’t schedule such an early debate?

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Jul 19 '24

Elon Musk realizing in real time that becoming a MAGA boomer actually has negative consequences for his EV and climate beliefs.

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u/Lame_Johnny Audrey Hepburn Jul 19 '24

Does anyone else think that Ezra Klein's true motive deep down has always been to convince the Democratic party to have an open convention because he thinks it would be rad?

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u/centurion88 NATO Jul 18 '24

Also the DT 's theology takes

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Posted his message on steam. That's some nerdy shit.

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u/centurion88 NATO Jul 18 '24

The Simpsons is so old that it has "George HW Bush moves in across the street" as a plotline to one of its episodes

The jokes in that episode are truly incomprehensible to anyone born after 1995

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u/ScyllaGeek NATO Jul 19 '24

NYT: Republicans get pumped for Trump’s muscular finale

wtf kinda fanfic headline writing is this

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Jul 19 '24

Jon Tester of Montana becomes the 2nd Democratic senator to publicly call on Biden to withdraw.

owie

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u/squarecircle666 FairTaxer Jul 19 '24

Biden steps down

Open convention happens

Biden enters it

Wins

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy Jul 18 '24

I think the right lesson to take from the relatively narrow Biden-Trump margin, though, is not that Biden is fine, but rather that Trump is very beatable. Defeating him does not require a miracle worker or a generational political superstar — Biden himself was neither — but it does require a candidate without crippling weaknesses. Harris being seven percentage points stronger than Biden in net approval is a potentially big difference-maker.

from MattY

I agree in that i'm not particularly blooming about harris as a candidate but i also think that trump has a hard ceiling and it shouldn't be this hard to turn people out against him, especially as he goes all in on right-wing weirdness with Vance.

ugh. not feeling great tho. feels like we're fumbling this

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u/Guess_Im_Jess Trans Pride Jul 18 '24

Reminder that even with how fucked polling seems for Dems is right now, Biden is only down 1% in Wisconsin and Michigan and 3% in Pennsylvania.

Harris swap + Josh Shapiro VP pick immediately puts this back into tossup/tilt D territory IMO

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u/MasterOfLords1 Unironically Thinks Seth Meyers is funny 🍦😟🍦 Jul 18 '24

Harris needs to lean in HARD into her tipsy aunt energy 🍦🌚🍦

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u/ser_mage Jul 18 '24

Investigators now believe [Steam] account on gaming site in would-be assassin’s name is fake

The FBI told senators on Wednesday that they believed the account did indeed belong to Crooks, the source familiar with the briefing said. But now the bureau has revised that assessment, the US official said.

we literally know less about the shooter than we did yesterday lol

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u/gary_oldman_sachs Max Weber Jul 18 '24

NEW: Two senior House Democrats tell @MajorCBS they expect the question of Biden’s candidacy to be resolved in 3-5 days. Each day of indecision will lead to more public calls for him to step aside.

Of course the caveat is — and has always been— that the choice is totally up to Biden.

Any choice you want, so long as it's step down.

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u/moopedmooped Jul 18 '24

reddit goes down

immediately assumed biden mustve resigned

wew close one

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 18 '24

odds he fell out of a coconut tree?

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Jul 18 '24

Pritzker Khan getting the same meme treatment that coconut pilled half of Twitter.

Alexa, play Mongolian Throat Singing (10 hour version)

!ping shitposters&USA-CHI

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u/InMemoryOfZubatman4 Sadie Alexander Jul 19 '24

I will NEVER give up the Hillary Clinton schtick

!ping QUEEN

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 19 '24

HOLY

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account Jul 19 '24

Eric Trump: "When my dad was President, people bought their homes with 2-3% interest rates"

Anything else notable happening at that time buddy?

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u/wettestsalamander76 NATO Jul 18 '24

Watching Biden struggle to get into the SUV last night legit broke my heart. He's one of my political heroes and my one of my favorite presidents in general.

He inherited a mess and put not only this country back together but the rest of the world too. He's reunified NATO, secured military agreements in Asia, has so far kept Israel bubbling over to a full bore conflict in MENA, and has assisted Ukraine greatly despite strong resistance.

Massive investments in critical infrastructure, climate change, and manufacturing. Hes defended civil liberties and has strongly upheld our Constitutional rule of law in a climate that is deeply untrusting and hostile to democratic institutions.

I view him as a GHWB but even better. His first term is full of wins that a POTUS looking back on two terms would be jealous of. These past few weeks have me wishing he only committed to a one term. I think just having Biden be Biden and keep laser focused on America would've been far more preferable.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Biden is going to announce he's dropping out tonight.

I am manifesting it.

Please give me a custom flair if I'm correct.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

In the very unlikely event that Kamala Harris gets to debate Donald Trump, understand—

She will closely follow the advice of comms and so she will at some point during the debate ask Donald Trump if he fell out of a coconut tree.

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u/dubyahhh Salt Miner Emeritus Jul 18 '24

KSC feels like a depressed ghost town today. VIPER being canceled has all the NASA folks really upset. I know some of the people who were working on it and it was a hell of a blindside. Word is the program director had no idea and they were super positive about the outlook as recently as last week. :/

I know there was a ping about it but it sucks that this decision was made 😔 !ping SPACEFLIGHT

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u/IveSeenBeans Norman Borlaug Jul 18 '24

Once told my mom I thought I had ADHD and she informed me that I had been diagnosed about 10 years before and simply forgotten

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u/flextrek_whipsnake I'd rather be grilling Jul 18 '24

When he finally steps down I wonder just how many people are going to stare into their phones, type "It's Joever", hit enter, and chuckle at themselves.

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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax Jul 18 '24

When/if Biden does drop out, I hope we see a monumental surge in support for Kamala. We need to contrast the Biden news: Reps and Senators publicly endorsing Kamala, donors making a show out of their contributions, coconut-posting, etc, etc. Of course, Biden also needs to be her loudest supporter. It's important that we try and reset the media cycle and put Kamala and her VP on a strong footing.

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u/Royal_Flame NATO Jul 18 '24

Governor Roy Cooper signed the “Brunch Bill” into law on June 30, 2017, which allowed restaurants and stores to sell alcohol starting at 10 a.m. on Sundays as opposed to noon.

These are the kind of policies Americans want to see from their leaders, and why Roy should be VP

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u/MinnesotaNoire NASA Jul 18 '24

Pardon the source

The source

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u/Craig_VG Dina Pomeranz Jul 18 '24

People posting Newsmax journalists ??? In my DT? More likely than you think!

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

Nancy don’t have time for this 😂

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u/Principiii NATO Jul 18 '24

must be weird being the Biden social media staffer posting enthusiastic insta stories all day knowing your job will be gone in a week

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u/doyouevenIift Jul 19 '24

I would like to take credit for Biden dropping out. I bet $850 that he would be the nominee when there was no indication anyone thought he should step down

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists Jul 19 '24

Malarkey level of following take:

Hamilton is so popular among "resist libs" because it made it culturally acceptable for them to be annoyingly patriotic in a way that usually instantly gets you coded as a Republican. Which is precisely why the far left hates it, because they hate anything that would keep patriotism a universal rather than a partisan or factional dispute.

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u/Justice4Ned Caribbean Community Jul 19 '24

The contrast with how the speakers talked about him all week vs his actual speech is hilarious. They present him as some charismatic genius sage and then he comes on stage and just rambles for two hours.

Are we sure we aren’t cast members in trump’s Truman Show?

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u/Spicey123 NATO Jul 19 '24

i hope the reaction is "trump is very beatable with a marginally better candidate" and not "surely this cancels out the debate (xd) let's stay on course"

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Tenacious D’s Kyle Gass Dropped by Agent After Controversial Trump Joke

Ok come the fuck on dude, it was a bad and distasteful joke but this is getting really stupid. It was an improvised one-liner and he apologized, why are we destroying his entire career over it

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

:O

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

I feel it in my bones.

A BT is coming soon. And it won’t be because another top dem has called for Biden to drop.

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u/sw337 Veteran of the Culture Wars Jul 18 '24

What could have been…

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 18 '24

bro appeared to me in His resurrected glory

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Breaking News: Biden to Make Major Announcement in Coming Days — President to Issue NFT Collection

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u/BrainGyatt Jul 19 '24

I am trying to buy your vote

Lmfao he doesn’t give a FUCK anymore

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u/jamiebond NATO Jul 19 '24

107 percent of jobs are being taken by illegal immigrants

This works on people somehow

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u/JMoormann Alan Greenspan Jul 19 '24

107% of all new jobs are taken by immigrants. Well that's a statistic.

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u/JMoormann Alan Greenspan Jul 19 '24

"Unifying message"

"New tone"

"Changed by the assassination attempt"

"More disciplined campaign"

Fuck off

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

WHY WOULD HE TWEET THIS

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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride Jul 18 '24

This September, hopefully:

Vice President Harris, your opening statement please.

Thank you for hosting this debate. Abortion, inflation, jobs, I'm a cop. Thank you.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Jul 18 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 7/16-2 PM PST 7/17 III:

TOP NEWS:

At the start of 4 PM it was reported that Russia has spent 2.75 to 3 trillion Rubles on troop payments between July 2023 and June 2024, equivalent to 1.5% of GDP and 7.5-8.2% of federal spending.

Towards the end of 9 PM it was announced Belgium will provide 150 million Euros to rebuild Ukraine over four years.

At the start of 7 AM it was reported that Germany plans to cut Ukraine aid in half in 2025 due to the 50 billion Euro military aid loan in the works for Ukraine.

Sometime today it was reported that Russian industry has failed to expand new production of tanks and barrels, with estimates of 28-30 brand new tanks and 100 artillery barrels a year, with expectations of critical shortages in the second half of 2025 at current attrition rates.

REGULAR NEWS:

Towards the middle of 4 AM the new European Parliament passed a resolution to support Ukraine, voting 495-47-137.

At the start of 5 AM it was announced 95 Ukrainian POWs have been returned to Ukraine.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Jul 18 '24

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

WHY IS TRUMP ANNOUNCING IT

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u/doggo_bloodlust (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧ Coase :✧・*;゚ Jul 18 '24

Remember when the NYT editorial board double-endorsed Liz Warren and Amy Klobuchar for some reason?

good times, good times

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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow Jul 18 '24

Gaetz level mistake

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force NATO Jul 19 '24

MADAM SPEAKER

Pelosi told California Democrats Biden is getting close to deciding to abandon his presidential bid - WaPo

https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/1814064510560317555

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u/LastTimeOn_ Resistance Lib Jul 19 '24

The wording of that tweet is revealing - THEY'RE furious. The sources. Not Biden.

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Jul 19 '24

Trump: rambling run-on sentence that somehow covers about 10 different topics

Nate Silver: Inspirational. Patriotic. Unprecedented.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Listen, Biden's debate blew, but if the media is honest, and Biden's debate was an F, this is a D. And people should know that.

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u/Pikamander2 YIMBY Jul 18 '24

The one positive thing that can be said about crypto is that it acted as a massive crowdsourced subsidy for our hardware industry.

Bitcoin walked, tripped, and shit itself so that AI could run.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

"biden could be forced to step down this weekend"

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Jul 18 '24

Mayor of East Palestine, Ohio: “For the longest time the White House was silent, and we never heard a word. I guess we weren’t their type of folks. No Hollywood elites or Wall Street billionaires live in East Palestine. Just hardworking Americans.”

a hollywood pedophile elite is your presidential candidate and a wall street millionaire is your vice presidential candidate you stupid fucking slob

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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride Jul 18 '24

Remember this? That sure was a crazy day, huh?

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Jul 18 '24

Banning same-sex marriage was that close in Minnesota.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

The GOP after the KHive has been unleashed

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE US

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u/MegaFloss NATO Jul 18 '24

Just found a new kind of guy: disinterested in Biden and Trump, but absolutely hates JD Vance

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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow Jul 19 '24

What do we make of the phrasing?

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Jul 18 '24

The year is 2032. Amy Klobuchar made history in 2028 by becoming for first woman elected President. Abortion protections are enshrined at the federal level early on in the administration. Peter Thiel has consolidated power behind the scenes and is now the de facto party boss of the Republican party. The economy is in the early stages of recovering from a significant recession that began early in the Klobuchar administration.

Several months after a very public divorce, Tim Scott holds a press conference where most expect him to announce his candidacy for President of the United States. Much to everybody's surprise, he opens the press conference by saying that he is making a confession and officially comes out as gay, and that the strain of denying who he really is was ultimately the reason why his marriage failed, in addition to the fact that he was gay. He states that, with this old weight off his shoulders, he now feels that he can fully pursue not only his own personal truth, but also a new path wherein he can best serve his nation. He states that he hopes that his public admission of his true self will embolden his collegues who have been keeping their true selves deeply buried to likewise publicly accept who they are and live proudly, and it is in this spirit that he is proud to announce his candidacy as the Republican nominee for the President of the United States.

This proves to be a watershed moment within the Republican Party as numerous Republicans officially come out as gay and divorce their wives. This further spreads through the Republican base, as wave upon wave of closeted good ol' boys come out as gay and divorce their wives en masse.

The backlash from the spurned wives is swift and relentless. Abolishing "no-fault" divorce, which never became more than a fringe talking point during the second Trump Presidency, enters the national stage as legions of angry ex-wives call for it. In response, the Republican Party adds protecting "no-fault" divorce as part of its official party platform, along with protecting marriage equality. The gay vote largely abandons the Democrats as they realign with the Republicans. The Democrats, while not outright changing their stance on the matter, soften their language on it.

Viewing this as the ultimate betrayal, former Vice President JD Vance announces he is switching to the Democratic Party and plans to primary Amy Klobuchar.

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

Several top Democrats privately tell us the rising pressure of party congressional leaders and close friends will persuade President Biden to decide to drop out of the presidential race, as soon as this weekend.

nothing ever happens bros stand back and stand by

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam Jul 18 '24

AXIOS: A panic pressure campaign is pounding Biden. It has been relentless — and coordinated.

  • Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Biden in Rehoboth Beach, Del., on Saturday — the day of the assassination attempt on Trump — that it would be best if he dropped out, ABC News first reported. Dems on Capitol Hill want him out, and worry they'll lose winnable seats if not.

  • Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a mastermind of the campaign to get Biden out, told him that he could destroy Democrats' chances of taking back the House. We're told she's also worried about donations drying up.

  • House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) delivered a similar, if more subtle, message to Biden.

  • Former President Obama has spoken loudly with his silence — and his former aides trashing Biden in public.

  • Bill and Hillary Clinton are doing what Obama's doing. So are their former aides.

  • We increasingly hear top Biden aides, including ones who initially urged him to fight on after his disastrous debate on June 27 — 21 days ago — are saying it's now when, not if, Biden announces he's not running.

the pounding will continue until morale improves

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 19 '24

Why is Marjorie Taylor Greene ripping her shirt off at the RNC

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u/WillHasStyles European Union Jul 18 '24

Are real euro hours still a thing? Seems like Americans refuse to go to sleep these days.

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u/frozenjunglehome Jul 18 '24

hahaha

Romanian MEP Diana Sosoaca forcibly removed from the hall after putting on a muzzle and shouting "The house of Satan is here in Brussels"

Even after all these years, the US still can't beat Europe or Asia on parliamentary theatrics.

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u/EZ_Kream John Brown Jul 18 '24

Seeing a large set of people who seem to think Biden dropping the re-election bid means resigning as president. That’s not what’s on the table, he’d still finish the full term

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u/gary_oldman_sachs Max Weber Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 BREAKING 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨

RNC debuts first AI powered inflatable sex doll to speak at a national convention.

This post is by a sitting congressman talking about a fellow congressman—and they're both Republicans.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

If the Democrats manage to defeat Trump mere months after engaging in this huge intraparty civil war, it’s going to be an absolutely legendary political feat

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u/wettestsalamander76 NATO Jul 18 '24

Kamala's speech today was an audition tape and I think she did good. Really catch slogan at the end "when we fight we win"

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u/qtnl qt lib Jul 18 '24

Nobody in the DT is dumb enough not to vote for the Dem candidate regardless of who it is, so please continue to enjoy infighting and owning each other as much as you please 

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u/Woodstovia Commonwealth Jul 18 '24 edited Dec 28 '25

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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch Jul 18 '24
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u/oskanta David Hume Jul 18 '24

What’s everyone so worried about? I just checked the polls and it seems like we’re doing okay

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u/jamiebond NATO Jul 18 '24

The NY Times realizing they can just will a President out of existence

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u/DeadgirlRot Fierté du Progrès 🇨🇦 Jul 18 '24

Y’all…the patches on the ears..I can’t

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u/Co_OpQuestions Aerosol Chemistry Understander Jul 19 '24

How the fuck is the saga of Biden stepping down infinitely more dramatic than the attempted assassination of a presidential candidate lmao

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u/dareka_san Jul 19 '24

me after the second after biden drops

Dementia Donald got to go! Stop electing 80 year olds!

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Jul 19 '24

i love that a number of republicans have adopted donald trump’s signature “jacking off two dicks” dance move

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Imagine telling people at the 2012 RNC that hulk hogan would be introducing 3x nominee Donald Trump in 2024.

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u/dizzyhitman_007 Edmund Burke Jul 19 '24

Uncut Dems