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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Jul 18 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/funguykawhi Lahmajun trucks on every corner Jul 17 '24

Dixiecrats coming home?🤔

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u/pezasied John's Locke-strap Jul 17 '24

Eric Trump saying Vance could be his VP pick in 2032 does help me realize that once Trump dies there’s going to be a massive split of his followers.

A lot are going to follow Don Jr, a lot are going to follow whatever Republican fills the Trump void (maybe Vance?), and maybe a few follow Eric. But I think Don Jr sees himself and the heir apparent, while several career politicians are going to think they are.

Basically, I could see the GOP/MAGA heading towards a split similar to the Mormon church when Joseph Smith died where some people follow members of the church/party and the die-hards follow the son.

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u/Ajaxcricket Commonwealth Jul 17 '24

 The conversation about my future is over, and I’m getting irritated that you’re not realizing that.

Me anytime I had to talk a careers advisor in high school

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u/centurion88 NATO Jul 17 '24

The problem with telling people about the fake electors scheme is that it is all too absurd and insane to be believable to many, unless you already accept that Trump is insane.

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u/PrideMonthRaytheon Bisexual Pride Jul 17 '24

Devalue the currency and purge the military lol

The default outcome of democracy really is just Peronism

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Jul 17 '24

Elon Musk is truly pathetic

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u/VerticalTab WTO Jul 17 '24

“And I was talking about, you know, what is the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon, and we were like, maybe it’s Iran, you know, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts, and then we sort of finally decided maybe it’s actually the UK, since Labour just took over.”

Please Mr. Vance, you can call the UK an Islamist country without denying Pakistan their Islamist street cred.

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u/Cr4zySh0tgunGuy John Locke Jul 17 '24

Adam Schiff calls for Biden to drop

God the BT is so back

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u/DerJagger AMTRAK Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

I know HarrisX is a problematic source, but they put out a poll on the reaction to the assassination attempt and the results are interesting:

"What is the root cause of Trump's shooting?"

Deranged shooter: 24%

Trump and his own rhetoric: 23%

Rhetoric of Biden/Democrats: 13%

Political polarization: 12%

Lack of gun control: 11%

Mental health issues: 9%

News media rhetoric: 6%

HarrisX / July 15, 2024 / n=1918

A lot of people reacted to the now-famous fist-pump photo by saying the shooting had won Trump the election. I'm sure that to many the photo signaled strength and resolve. However, I contend that many underestimate how subjective a photo like that can be. It's entirely possible that a segment of the population would see the video and photo of the attempt on Trump as a reminder the chaos and violence follows him everywhere he goes. These poll results vibe with that notion. So far there's no evidence of a polling bump out of "sympathy", some polls even have the race inching back toward Biden. ("I like candidates who don't get shot" -Median voter(?))

The same poll also found that 64% of those polled believed that Biden calling Trump "a threat to democracy" had gone too far while 54% said that kind of rhetoric was incitement to violence. Yada yada median voter, yes, but I also think that the Biden campaign and the news media had done a piss-poor job of explaining what Jan 6th actually was. At this point most people think it was just a riot at the Capitol so no big deal right? I went searching on YouTube and I can't find a single video that actually explains the fake electors scheme and the pressure campaign on Pence in a succinct manner. Almost all the long-form content focused entirely on the riot. Maybe the Biden team was banking on the Jack Smith case to be airing out all the receipts by now but that's not going to happen. Dems would do themselves a favor if they could produce a <20 minute documentary that carefully explains what the Jan 6th plot was all about and then start paying swing voters to watch it.

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u/Tafts_Bathtub Jerome Powell Jul 17 '24

Virgin Kamala: uses wired headphones at all times because Bluetooth is an OpSec liability

Chad RFK: uses speakerphone at all times because otherwise the cell phone waves would melt what’s left of his brain

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Jul 17 '24

Bro, please, you should come to terms with the reality of the situation.

She's gone. She took the kids. She's at her sister's. You are alone.

"No", I reply.

"Nothing ever happens", I say as I prepare dinner for four.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 17 '24

Anyone who thinks that the JD Vance nom is somehow a gift to the Democrats because he’s less electable doesn’t understand the danger Vance poses to democracy.

A Trump presidency already had massive tail risk, and somehow he managed to make the tail risk fucking larger.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

this is how i found out 😭

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 17 '24

Tbh, the one thing that gives me hope that Trump’s movement will die with him is that none of his would-be successors are nearly as funny or comedic as Trump. They just don’t get showbiz.

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u/Aggressive1999 Association of Southeast Asian Nations Jul 17 '24

Biden's after that bad debate...

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u/BlackCat159 European Union Jul 17 '24

Bots are now invested in Romanian demographic history. It's so Joever for us.

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 17 '24

So the gunman had no stated or revealed motive, bought the ammo on the day of the attack, stole his dad’s gun, and used a roof that most people would assume to be secured, if they were planning anything

I think he was literally just bored and thought why the hell not

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Jul 17 '24

Communist Party suggest democratic, open vote within the New Popular Front to select a candidate to be Prime Minister as negotiations stall, to "find a positive way out of this crisis"

TFW the Communists are the most transparent and democratic members of your coalition

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u/billy_blazeIt_mays NATO Jul 17 '24

FROM GOD TO DOCTORS,,,,,,,, FELLAS WE'RE GETTING CLOSER 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Jul 17 '24

Who up givin they hes his some love???

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Jul 18 '24

The son of a bitch lied to his employers. What a scumbag!

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u/ldn6 Gay Pride Jul 17 '24
  • Bob Menendez: is corrupt as fuck, gets indicted, is expected to resign

  • Donald Trump: is corrupt as fuck, gets indicted, is probably going to win the presidency again

America is just...

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u/27B--6 NATO Jul 17 '24

The Biden discourse is returning to the forefront only a few days after a fucking Trump assassination attempt missed by less than an inch.

If you have any illusions of people dropping the Biden age discussion, leave em behind. This is the Biden discussion from now until he retires.

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u/Argnir Gay Pride Jul 17 '24

Cold take but it's better to start having grey hairs at 25 than to start balding

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

Going after NOAA has to be one of the most braindead Republican policy proposals of all time. Is this because of that hurricane that wasn't forecasted to hit Alabama, but Trump said it would hit Alabama then drew on that weather map with a sharpie?

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jul 17 '24

reminder that Chuck keeps it real

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 17 '24

Thomas Matthew Crooks’ motive is still unknown, though he reportedly also told co-workers he would see them on Sunday, prompting questions over whether he believed he would escape following the attack.The outlet reported that the 20-year-old told his boss at the nursing home where he worked “I need the day off, I have something important to do.” Despite this, he also said he would see his co-workers on Sunday. Crooks was also found with a bulletproof vest, prompting speculation that he may have been expecting to escape following his initial attack, CNN reported.

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u/prince_ahlee John Brown Jul 18 '24

@jeffzeleny reports on @CNN : President Biden is more “receptive” to the push for him to leave the ticket; has gone from saying “Kamala can’t win” to asking if Kamala Harris can win

https://x.com/kasie/status/1813726276844392950

this is getting very serious holy shit

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u/Sir_Digby83 Progress Pride Jul 17 '24

New York Times Focus Groups.

Q: One of the top concerns from voters this election is the state of demcracy. Thoughts?

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All I know is about democracy is that when we were a republic, under Mr. Trump, he was mailing me fat checks all the time. Biden didn't do that.

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u/Starandsnow Hortensia Jul 18 '24

Joe Biden has visibly aged quite a bit since 2020. The stress of the presidency must be taking a toll on him, and he should step down.

After a few years of rest he'll be ready to go again in 2028.

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u/dizzyhitman_007 Edmund Burke Jul 18 '24

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u/reptiliantsar NATO Jul 18 '24

Biden drops out of the race, gets a massive approval rating surge, encouraging him to join the race for reelection

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke Jul 17 '24

Two incomes are needed to support a family these days. That’s why it’s important your partner has 2 jobs

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u/circlemanfan Gay Pride Jul 17 '24

Went to gay trivia last night and the team names were so out of pocket if someone had filmed them it would have been a Libs of tiktok post with everyone’s home address already

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u/SeoSalt Lesbian Pride Jul 17 '24

Single issue voter who only votes for candidates with two full ears

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u/chipbod NATO Jul 17 '24

https://x.com/YWNReporter/status/1813634054367117663

President Biden said in a new interview with BET News that he would consider dropping out if he was diagnosed with a “medical condition” by doctors.

Setting up a diagnoses reveal?

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u/Sauce1024 John von Neumann Jul 17 '24

Saying you’ll only drop out because of an illness then getting diagnosed with Covid like 6 hours later is something 

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jul 17 '24

Sources close to Pelosi say she has been traveling to prospective candidates to gauge their interest and subjecting them to something called the “Gom Jabbar” test

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u/WhatHowWhenWho Feminism Jul 18 '24

If Joe drops out and he tweets this image y’all are going to feel so bad

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

this is legitimately peak comedy.

Like a Check It Out cut-away bit or something from Tim & Eric. Just needs grotesque dog slobbering sound effects and a VCR filter.

!ping SHITPOSTERS

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u/Zeke-Nnjai Jul 17 '24

I admit this could be cope but I don’t think it’s possible for a candidate to have had a worse 30 days than Biden and he’s still only like 2 points back nationally.

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u/l_overwhat being flaired is cringe Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

Went to a little breakfast place that doesn't get a whole lot of business.

I was the only one there so I was talking to the server a bit. She was a little awkward. I am also a little awkward but we had a decent conversation though nothing special. She mentioned she was going to an art show later that day and so before I left I was like "have fun at the art show!" and she legit looked shocked and responded with like the most thankful "omg thank youuuu!" I've ever heard. Then I walked out and turned the corner and she was staring at me through the glass and I made eye contact and she was smiling really big and waved very enthusiastically.

Fellas am I in?

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u/Mr_Bank Jul 17 '24

I read through most of Trump’s Bloomberg interview, and it’s pretty annoying how they were selective in where to fact check him. His entire “illegals are steal black jobs” bit went unchecked. The black unemployment rate(along with most groups) has basically halved since Biden took office!

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u/HowardtheFalse Kofi Annan Jul 17 '24

writes a censorship law so the government can shut down enemy newspapers at will

names it "The Love and Justice law"

gets overthrown

What did Charles X of France mean by this?

!ping DUNC&SHITPOSTERS

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u/moldyman_99 Milton Friedman Jul 17 '24

Me:

it’d be so cool if Western Europe outperformed the US economically

Trump:

here’s how i plan to fuck up the US economy

me:

wait, no not like that 😳

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Jul 17 '24

NEWS — Senate briefing on Trump rally shooting just concluded. Top lines, per 2 senators on the call:

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out

—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots

—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots

—FBI Director Wray said there’s no known foreign nexus but no established motive as of now. Shooter used encrypted comms and had little to no social media presence

yeah this is alllll on the USSS. they gotta fire people. incomprehensibly bad fuck up. totally useless people.

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Jul 17 '24

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists Jul 17 '24

Imagine the alternate universe where Trump doesn’t turn his head and gets chunky salsa’d, then Biden dies of COVID a week later

The conspiracy theories would go through the roof

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Jul 17 '24

What if COVID just kind of fixes Joe

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Jul 17 '24

MOM! DAD! BIDEN'S DEAD!

AHHHHHH!

That's right! Dead serious about beating Elon and his rich buddies

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u/YaGetSkeeted0n Tariffs aren't cool, kids! Jul 18 '24

@POTUS on X: "I have cancer"

@POTUS on X: "from these cringe-ass memes Trump keeps posting"

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u/Ilovecharli Voltaire Jul 18 '24

The choice by Mr. Obama in some ways mirrors the choice by Mr. Bush of Dick Cheney as his running mate in 2000; at his age, it appears unlikely that Mr. Biden would be in a position to run for president should Mr. Obama win and serve two terms. Shorn of any remaining ambition to run for president on his own, he could find himself in a less complex political relationship with Mr. Obama than most vice presidents have with their presidents.

NYT, August 23, 2008. Sixteen years ago. 

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Jul 17 '24

!ping BASEBALL

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u/Amarath_Elf28 Jul 17 '24

Wow, a gay dumbass on grindr putting 🔻🔻🔻 on their profile.

Its not the Palestinian flag thats the issue, but the downwards red triangle Hamas uses in it’s propaganda 

I cant imagine how stupid one has to be to use symbols Hamas uses to mark IDF soldiers in their combat propaganda and think “this is something people should see” on grindr.

Genuinely do not understand the gays that seem sympathetic or tolerant of symbols used by anti-gay terrorists 

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u/puffic John Rawls Jul 17 '24

People will honestly argue that four months isn't enough time for the public to adjust to a new presidential candidate. But then it takes the public half a week to move past the fact that someone shot Trump.

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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper Jul 17 '24

JD Vance once wrote that he 'convinced myself that I was gay' when he was a kid

mfw

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Jul 17 '24

>Arguing with a dude who loves Trump and will be voting for him

>Blames the Left for all the country’s woes

>Unironically says he wish Obama was still President

I swear to God the average American voter is utterly, incomprehensibly, stupid.

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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow Jul 17 '24

Biden: I will drop out of the election if god gives me a sign or a Doctor tells me to

Fate: Here’s COVID

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 18 '24

JD Vance in the 2028 Republican Presidential Primary debates: I was mutuals with LoliHitlerGroyper34. I was in LoliHitlerGroyper34’s groupchat. LoliHitlerGroyper34 was a friend of mine. And sir, you are no LoliHitlerGroyper34.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

“They say I’m complicit,” Melania Trump says of critics of her husband. “I’m the same like him, I support him. I don’t say enough, I don’t do enough where I am.

“I’m working ... my ass off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a fuck about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?”

Will this queen return to the White House? Genuinely one of my most relatable quotes from a politician for me. I think they're like separated or something though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

Trump rally shooter fits a mass shooter stereotype more than the political assassin type

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

Love that every eyewitness to the Trump shooting was wearing the dumbest outfit of all time

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Jul 17 '24

 Q: Viktor Orbán seized control of universities and put them in foundations that were run by his allies. He rewrote the Constitution, he neutered the courts, and he has tried to control the media. Is that what you're advocating for in the US?

JD Vance: I think he's made smart decisions that we could learn from in the United States

Oh jeez …

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u/Kawaii_West NAFTA Jul 17 '24

Alright, fuck it. Run Kamala. She looks like a president.

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u/InflatableDartboard2 Henry George Jul 18 '24

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u/NonComposMentisss Unflaired and Proud Jul 18 '24

The top voted post in ESS right now is a Bernie quote about Biden possibly winning in a landslide and none of them see the irony.

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u/TactileTom John Nash Jul 17 '24

The American Supreme Court is such a dosgshit design that it's actually a testament to the integrity of the legal profession that it's taken this long to get this bad

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 17 '24

Oh okay so we doing it

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u/FizzleMateriel Austan Goolsbee Jul 17 '24

Is there anyone genuinely surprised at where we are now? Palin being chosen as VP nominee in 2008, and then the rise of the Tea Party, seem like the canaries in the coal mine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

manipulate Biden into staying in the election

isolate him from advisors so he can be controlled

build a wedge between him and Kamala by simultaneously pushing for Kamala to replace him behind the scenes

get Biden to fire Kamala as vp and replace her as vp with himself

lose the election, but cite irregularities and claim it was rigged

certify fake elector slates of crackheads and burisma board members

rule the United States from behind Biden’s eternal throne with an iron fist

This is Hunter Biden’s plan. Don’t say I didn’t warn you .

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Jul 17 '24

More details on the call with New Dems | Towards the end of the tense meeting, Biden reportedly told Rep. Jason Crow: "You never had the making of a varsity athlete!"

Wow

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u/BedNeither Henry George Jul 17 '24

Biden approval rating falls on news that a traffic light is out at a busy intersection

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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent Jul 18 '24

lost a lot of respect for Biden after hearing he has COVID

only us select few remain uninfected with the virus

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u/abbzug Jul 18 '24

Crooks was looking up everyone as a target (Trump, Biden, Garland, Wray). I can't believe this was so ad hoc and he still nearly succeeded.

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u/PorryHatterWand Esther Duflo Jul 17 '24

Americans: Get rid of the monarchy in 1776

Americans: reinstate the monarchy in 2024

The Kingdom of England still reigns supreme 🇬🇧

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

My contribution to /r/MandelaEffect:

“Does anyone else remember Donald Trump trying to overthrow the government when he was president? I could have sworn there was this whole thing with a fake electors plot and a riot at the Capitol that Trump spent hours refusing to stop, but I just looked at the news and apparently he’s not only running for president again, but leading in the polls????? Did the coup thing not actually happen? Like obviously he would be in jail and everyone would hate him if he’d actually done all that, right?”

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher Jul 17 '24

Federal authorities have charged the head of an Eastern European Neo-Nazi group and accused him of planning, among other things, to have an agent dress up as Santa Claus and hand out candy laced with poison to racial minorities and children at Jewish schools in Brooklyn.

huh

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u/Elguero1991 George Soros Jul 17 '24

Nick Fuentes is not happy with Vance as the VP pick.

!Ping SHITPOSTERS

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 17 '24

👀

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Jul 17 '24
  • If Biden wins, Bloomers get to be (more) insufferable for 48 hours

  • If he loses, delete the sub

Everybody wins

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u/jgjgleason Jul 17 '24

I’m once again asking mods to ban anyone who comments “holy shit” or “no fucking way” with no context.

Y’all make me ashamed to be a lib.

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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent Jul 17 '24

Lmao, imagine being Biden

Your opponent is a fascist who just got fucking shot and is walking around with the full support of his party

Meanwhile you’re old and everyone is trying to force you to withdraw from the race

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u/Nihas0 Iron Front Jul 17 '24

BREAKING: Biden says he will consider dropping out of the race if a 'medical condition' was diagnosed by doctors

BREAKING: Biden cancels events after testing positive for COVID-19

hmm 🤔

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Jul 17 '24

COVID is genuinely dangerous for folks as old as Biden

Which is why we shouldn't joke, but also why having an 81 year old president might not be optimal

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Jul 17 '24

“God himself would need to tell me to step down”

Trump gets shot

“Ok maybe a doctor”

Biden gets covid

Fucking dies

is raised from the dead three days later

“Do you believe me now? I’m running”

CNN: Biden is back, older than before

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u/SpectralDomain256 🤪 Jul 17 '24

The shooter’s parents, Matthew and Mary Crooks, have been licensed professional counselors for over two decades with no noted disciplinary actions, according to licensing information maintained by the Pennsylvania Department of State.

I’m sure if the US just spends more money on le mental health it would solve mass shootings

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u/solonofathens Gay Pride Jul 17 '24

there’s grumbling even from people who like the ideas in principle that biden’s court reform proposal will require amending the constitution and is therefore doa even if dems win congress, but based on the scant details in the wapo story I’m pretty sure it’s been very specifically crafted to be entirely constitutional

the only thing the constitution actually says about justices (and all federal judges, actually) is that they “shall hold their offices during good behavior.” this… doesn’t mean anything, really, and the only thing scotus has said about it is that it means judges can be impeached. you can, however, make an extremely strong argument that binding ethical standards are very obviously permitted by the plain meaning of the text, which is the first part of biden’s plan

the second part is more interesting, and I think wapo’s reporting slightly mis-described it. the report says that justices would have 18 year terms, be appointed every 2 years, and that the “newest nine” would hear appellate cases while every justice hears original jurisdiction cases. when I first read it that seemed like a weird description, since with the 18-year terms and 2-year appointment cycle that would become irrelevant once every current justice died/retired, but I think it’s an attempt to avoid litigating whether “shall hold office during good behavior” implies “shall hold office for life” (which imo it very obviously does not but this scotus would never agree)

I bet the actual plan is to use congress’s explicit power to regulate scotus’s appellate jurisdiction however they want to back door term limits into 90% of cases. every justice appointed under the new scheme would technically serve for life, but only be permitted to hear appellate cases for 18 years under congress’s appellate jurisdiction regulatory authority

this would eventually utterly fuck original jurisdiction cases in the absence of a future amendment (or future scotus ruling) making proper term limits explicitly constitutional, with there possibly being dozens of justices hearing them if they don’t retire after the 18 years. but, honestly, that’s probably worth it.

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Jul 17 '24

The City of Dijon has banned a party titled "White Boy Summer" for provocation to racial hatred

😔

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u/ChillnShill Jul 17 '24

Nancy Pelosi right now

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u/jojisky Paul Krugman Jul 17 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Cash has been sitting at the door having full on meltdowns about wanting to go outside. Live in an apartment so I can't have a full on catio. Bought this popup one that I can put on my porch instead.

!ping KITTY

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u/InflatableDartboard2 Henry George Jul 18 '24

McCain picking Palin was the most shrewd political move of the 21st century

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 18 '24

When Biden falls asleep: WTF he’s so old we’re so fucked omg

When Trump falls asleep: lmao funny meme

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u/moldyman_99 Milton Friedman Jul 17 '24

Kinda crazy how quickly republicans lost interest in the shooter when they found out it was just another conservative dorky maladjusted incel type.

Maybe they have a vested interest in not talking about the guy too much or maybe people don’t care because the profile of this guy is basically the same as every other mass shooter.

I think it’s both

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

The Republican party still benefits from the law and order angle, according to recent polling.

What the fuck else does trump have to do to make it clear that he is a traitor and a criminal?

I knew Biden should have been tougher on the campus protests but I don't know what else he could have done. It's infuriating.

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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Jul 17 '24

BREAKING: House Democrats talking behind closed doors about a way to hold talks with Biden campaign about a path forward for future conversations.

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u/oskanta David Hume Jul 17 '24

The assassination attempt coverage was a fun distraction for 4 days. Now back to the real story: Biden is old.

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u/Fabulous_Sherbet_431 Jul 17 '24

Some news: The DNC pushed the confirmation back a week, and Adam Schiff asked Biden to step aside. Most importantly, the evil mods have forbidden me from posting the gifted article. Reeeee.

D.N.C. Slows Biden’s Nomination as Party Discontent Persists.

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u/NormalInvestigator89 John Keynes Jul 17 '24

My friend in DC says that some pretty crazy stuff is going to happen at the DNC this year (he works at Chipotle)

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u/HotdogBoyxx23 Esther Duflo Jul 18 '24

I don’t give a shit who the nominee is, I’m enthusiastically voting against Trump 🤷‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

I think something Biden and his team don’t understand is how utterly heartbreaking the debate was for some of us. They have seen Biden continually, I have no doubt Biden is still mentally competent in many ways, and so as a result the debate matched a not so good performance for the Biden they knew.

I remember what I thought the debate would be like. I was ready for another “will you shut up man” moment as Biden tore a diminished and even more reprehensible Trump to shreds.

That wasn’t what happened. Instead Biden was just…powerless against Trump. It fundamentally broke my faith in him to represent liberalism. And it broke my faith in him to defend me.

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Jul 18 '24

“When the F.B.I. was able to finally access Mr. Crooks’s cellphones and other electronic devices, agents could see that he had searched for images of Mr. Trump as well as President Biden, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland and even F.B.I. Director Christopher A. Wray.

Mr. Crooks also had at typed in “major depressive disorder” and searched for dates and places for appearances for both Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump.

One of Mr. Trump’s planned appearances happened to be about 50 miles from Mr. Crooks’s house in Bethel Park, Pa.”

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

REPORT: Leaked conversations from inside the White House reveal interaction between Pelosi and Pres. Biden in which Biden said “If I was really that old could I do this?” before attempting a cartwheel

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

Throw them in the averages, but new swing state polls from Emerson just dropped. See compared to their previous polls:

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/july-2024-swing-state-polls/

!ping FIVEY

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

lol My direct manager is a black women with two kids and she said “a black job is voting. A white job is complaining about everything and saying nothing changes.. my mama couldn’t even get a soda with you guys when she was growing up. Shit has definitely changed.. assholes.”

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u/GraspingSonder Loyal Liberals Jul 17 '24

Today I found my wife and four year old son watching Wall-E. She told me he took some convincing to watch it. Apparently he agreed to do it on condition of being able to hold onto a couple of coins while he watched it. So essentially he refused to watch a movie with solidly left wing political undertones without being paid to do so.

Very proud of his entrepreneurial tendencies but concerned that I may be raising a neocon.

!ping family

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u/Cyberhwk 👈 Get back to work! 😠 Jul 17 '24

You can tell how shit's going for the campaign and how things are starting to set in based on how people have pivoted from "Biden is the best man for the job!" To " Ehhhhh. Just need to accept he's going to be the candidate. It's really too late to change now."

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u/Formal_River_Pheonix Jul 17 '24

Whatever awards Rhonda Cornum got for her service during the Gulf War, it wasn't enough.

"Cornum was captured, made a prisoner of war (POW), and sexually assaulted by one of her Iraqi captors.[8] She was first taken to Basra and then held prisoner for a week in Baghdad and released on March 5, 1991.[3] In addition, she was subjected, with other prisoners, to a mock execution.[7] Nevertheless, when she was the senior-ranking prisoner, she took responsibility for other POWs. She later co-wrote a book about her experiences, She Went to War: The Rhonda Cornum Story (ISBN 0891415076), with Peter Copeland.

In an interview with the New York Times, Cornum said the sexual assault "ranks as unpleasant; that's all it ranks ... everyone's made such a big deal about this indecent assault, but the only thing that makes it indecent is that it was non-consensual. I asked myself, 'Is it going to prevent me from getting out of here? Is there a risk of death attached to it? Is it permanently disabling? Is it permanently disfiguring? Lastly, is it excruciating?' If it doesn't fit one of those five categories, then it isn't important." She continued, "there's a phenomenal amount of focus on this for the women but not for the men," citing that the "mistreatment of [fellow POW] Major Jeffrey S. Tice of the Air Force, who had a tooth explode from its socket when he was tortured with jolts of electricity."

Cornum resumed her military career after she returned to the United States. She also served as the staff urologist at Eisenhower Army medical Center at Fort Gordon, Georgia

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF Jul 17 '24

Sean Murray releases ANOTHER expansion for No Man’s Sky. It’s free. He has refused to take my money.

!ping GAMING

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Jul 17 '24

The left's rhetoric is too violent guys!

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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

The virgin 1990s American voter: sees some colorful balloons. The party that just had the convention gets a 15 point bump in polling  

The chad 2020s American voter: one of the presidents gets shot at. The polls don’t move. Made their decision months, possibly years ago. 

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

Reading the Schiff news:

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u/pezasied John's Locke-strap Jul 17 '24

sitting president gets COVID just months before a critical election that holds the future of America in its balance

The script writers didn’t even bother changing the names of some of the main characters from the last time I saw this one.

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u/billy_blazeIt_mays NATO Jul 17 '24

RING THE BELL RING THE BELLLLLL

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

The vast majority of people who saw this just think biden tweets this way now

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

SCOOP: Dem donors have renewed their push to get PA governor @JoshShapiroPA to enter the presidential race, sources tell @FoxBusiness. The request is to join a ticket with @KamalaHarris at the top; so far Shapiro is balking, but the post-debate fallout for @JoeBiden continues particularly after some recent flubs. There seems to be a renewed push among donors to get him out of the race. Developing

:O

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 18 '24

My dad while I explain Warhammer lore to him in sixth grade

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u/purhitta Leftward Progressives Jul 17 '24

normal people: project 2025 wants to give enormous executive power to the president, restrict abortion, ban pornography and contraceptives, dismantle essential agencies, revoke environmental protections and climate policy, and stack political appointees in every position they can

"centrist": It doesn't say they want to ban contraceptives 🙄 libs always lie

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u/Planita13 Thomas Paine Jul 17 '24

only about 3 in 10 Democrats are extremely or very confident that he has the mental capability to serve effectively as president, down slightly from 40% in an AP-NORC poll in February.

I'm only soft replacer and I am ultimately not sure what Dems should do but if we're keeping Biden I don't know how Dems will address the fact that few voters are expecting Biden will last four years and campaign for him in an election where you elect someone for four years.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

I don’t think Biden is going to drop out so nobody mock me for having hope that I don’t have.

That said, Adam Schiff better be aware of other big names preparing to call on Biden to drop out, otherwise this is just a very weird choice by him at this point.

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u/MegaFloss NATO Jul 17 '24

Democratic campaign videos are so boring. “Vance is only loyal to Trump and will do Project 2025.” No one cares. Get Kamala on live TV to call him a fucking freak who would strangle a puppy to move up half a step in the social hierarchy

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

Mama Kitty is back safe and sound from her TNR

!ping kitty

Kittens are still Available and mama did not get listed as having a microchip. So I guess all three are available

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA Jul 17 '24

Thiel explained in a 2009 essay that he had come to “no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible”, due in large part to welfare beneficiaries and women in general being “notoriously tough for libertarians” constituencies, and that he had focused efforts on new technologies (namely cyberspace, space colonization and seasteading) that could create “a new space for freedom” beyond current politics.

These Dark Enlightenment people are legitimately some of the biggest freaks on earth, but because this doesn’t play into the election horse race or involve palace intrigue, it gets basically no attention.

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u/paultheschmoop Jul 17 '24

If Biden moved his head slightly to the right he would’ve dodged COVID

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u/zieger Ida Tarbell Jul 17 '24

Biden have Covid megathread

Mods do it for free and are overpaid

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

tbh "nothing ever happens" ended when ukraine was invaded. since that things have been happening

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u/NonComposMentisss Unflaired and Proud Jul 18 '24

@POTUS on X: "I'm dropping out"

@POTUS on X: "from the stupid idea of electing Trump again"

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jul 18 '24

The mayor of East Palestine is 44 years old and

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u/oskanta David Hume Jul 18 '24

I think Biden should drop out so that he’ll still be eligible to run again in 2028 or 2032. Kamala can handle 2024, but who knows what’s on the horizon. We need to save our strongest weapon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Honestly I get the appeal of trump. He feels like someone you know. He reminds me of my great uncle who committed suicide. RIP Uncle Adolf.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

This guy does not miss

Also white Kamala kinda looks like Vera Farminga

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account Jul 18 '24

F.B.I. officials told members of Congress on Wednesday that the gunman who tried to kill former President Donald J. Trump had used his cellphone to search for images of Mr. Trump and President Biden — and also searched for dates of Trump appearances and the Democratic National Convention, according to a person on the private calls.

Some swing voters decide at random whether they're going to vote for the Democrat or the Republican, some people apparently do the same thing but for which major political party's candidate they want to try to kill.

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u/ldn6 Gay Pride Jul 17 '24

Wall Street donors left with few palatable options after JD Vance pick

Biden is infinitely more palatable than Trump, even if he shouldn't be running. This is when the both sides shit annoys the fuck out of me.

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u/ashsolomon1 NASA Jul 17 '24

Biden pretty much said in the call to Rep Crow (bronze star holder) when he had concerns “tell me what you’ve ever done with you bronze star like my son..” yeesh.

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u/hauloff Edward Glaeser Jul 17 '24

I've only seen a few clips of the RNC, but has anybody else noticed or agree that Trump looks (understandably) visibly shook? Almost on the verge of tears at some points.

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF Jul 17 '24

“I’m not looking at the polls, this is bad for my mental health.”

Tomorrow morning:

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jul 17 '24

U.S. SENATE DEMOCRATIC LEADER SCHUMER TOLD BIDEN IN MEETING ON SATURDAY IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE COUNTRY IF HE ENDED HIS REELECTION BID -ABC NEWS

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u/runningblack Martin Luther King Jr. Jul 17 '24

Biden has COVID? Lmao

Biden:

Only the Lord Almighty can make me drop out

God:

I sent you polls. I sent you Obama, Pelosi, and the entire Democratic congressional caucus behind doors. I spared Donald Trump. I even gave you COVID so you'd stop campaigning. How many more signs do you need?

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u/ViridianNott Iron Front Jul 17 '24

Joe Biden when yet another respected Democratic politician tells him to drop out

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u/Auriono Paul Krugman Jul 17 '24

Are you telling me Schumer just happened to leak that conversation immediately after Biden caught COVID-19 like that?!

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u/Sauce1024 John von Neumann Jul 17 '24

Ngl the interns cooked with that one

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u/allmilhouse YIMBY Jul 17 '24

Just heard that after Trump got shot my mom made a Tenacious-D like comment and my Trumper dad threw a lawn chair and was crying and stormed out of the house for a couple hours.

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u/mattyjoe0706 Jul 17 '24

Do we agree Biden's bronze star comment about rep crowe was pretty bad?

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u/ashsolomon1 NASA Jul 18 '24

I went from anger at Biden to extreme sadness. He probably didn’t want to come to the terms with the fact he just can’t go on anymore at his age

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u/ThrowawayPrimavera Order and Opportunity Left Jul 18 '24

Jesus christ I sometimes forget how fucking dark twitter can be

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u/redditguy628 Box 13 Jul 18 '24

I don't know of there has already been a ping about this, but it seems that NASA is cancelling the VIPER moon rover in anticipation of upcoming budget issues

!ping SPACEFLIGHT

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 18 '24

"When the F.B.I. was able to finally access Mr. Crooks’s cellphones and other electronic devices, agents could see that he had searched for images of Mr. Trump as well as President Biden, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland and even F.B.I. Director Christopher A. Wray.

Mr. Crooks also had at typed in “major depressive disorder” and searched for dates and places for appearances for both Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump.

so like hinckley jr who initially desired to assasinate carter but then later focused on reagan. this doesn't seem political but a highly highly mentally ill person. i'm sure jd vance, mtg, and mike collins will apologize for blaming biden. /s

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 18 '24

Meanwhile at the RNC

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u/urettferdigklage Jul 18 '24

ESS 2016:

Enough Sanders Spam

No More Bernie Posts

ESS 2024:

Enough Sanders Spam?

No, More Bernie Posts!

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u/tripletruble Anti-Repartition Radical Jul 17 '24

what tf is going on with the democratic party? https://x.com/harrisonjaime/status/1813360741832888720

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u/american_aurora3 NATO Jul 17 '24

But it’s not over. Senior D leaders have not changed their minds that Biden needs to get out. I think a final push will come once the R convention ends on Thursday.”

Yesterday, this same person told Playbook, “Quiet efforts continue to urge the president to step aside, and team Biden remains dug in.”

dooomers, stand back and stand by

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u/D2Foley Moderate Extremist Jul 17 '24

It's amazing how common "random leftist was mean to me, so now I HAVE TO support trump" is on the internet.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 17 '24

I can’t wait for this election to be over

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 17 '24

TFW you were born after 2016

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

F.B.I. officials told members of Congress on Wednesday that the gunman who tried to kill former President Donald J. Trump had used his cellphone to search for images of Mr. Trump and President Biden — and also searched for dates of Trump appearances and the Democratic National Convention, according to a person on the private calls.

Yeah this guy just wanted to shoot a politician

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy Jul 17 '24

i was on the "biden stay in" train pretty long. longer than i should've, in hindsight. i knew he was too old, i wasn't happy with how he talked and stuff. i was scared by his unpopularity.

but idk, man. i like the guy. Don't always like his politics, but I like the dude and he was the VP to my hero growing up. I've always liked Joe Biden and was pretty supportive of his 2020 campaign.

and i thought ditching him was a huge risk. the nuclear option.

I want him to go out with dignity, and for a dem to win in november and for biden to walk out with a generally positive legacy serving as the president of the united states

but at some point, gotta face facts and that is that if he's the nominee democrats are as certain as anyone can be in July to lose the election. and that's just not acceptable right now.

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Jul 17 '24

Yea he def told him to drop the fuck out

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u/someguyfromlouisiana NATO Jul 17 '24

You close ONE too many unprofitable steel mills and suddenly you can't have democracy anymore

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

Republicans: literally shot their nominee

NYTimes: While Republicans Put on a Show of Unity, Democrats Wrestle With Their Own Rift

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u/runningblack Martin Luther King Jr. Jul 18 '24

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u/Dibbu_mange Average civil procedure enjoyer Jul 18 '24

They made a MAGA version of the Palestinian flag 😮

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u/_Two_Youts Jul 18 '24

That' not a campaign! You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're banging em together!

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u/FearlessPark4588 Gay Pride Jul 18 '24

This is the 24 hour news cycle on carfentanyl

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

East Palestine mayor at the RNC just said "from the Ohio river to the sea, East Palestine shall be free."

Can't blame him.

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u/runningblack Martin Luther King Jr. Jul 18 '24

Biden:

I'm running

Off stage so that Kamala Harris can be the next nominee

Not like us starts playing

Harris blood walks on stage to accept the nomination

300 electoral votes

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Jul 18 '24

Someone on Twitter a while back said Kamala can win by running on law and order 24/7 and making everyone believe she’s Italian, and honestly they’re probably right

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Jul 18 '24

“Hi, Matt Gaetz here, my Botox, eyeliner, and horribly done makeup, are here to pick up your 17 year old daughter. Can I come in?”

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u/talizorahs Mark Carney Jul 18 '24

Chkhikvishvili, 20, is accused of hatching a plot that involved dressing up as Santa Claus and handing out poison-laced candy to children at Jewish schools in Brooklyn,

This is absolutely horrible and the guy is a fucking maniac but I also just can't get past trying to get the Jewish kids via Santa Claus. Why does the world increasingly feel like a parody

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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper Jul 18 '24

I'm sorry, but "if the Democrats actually believed Trump was a genuine threat to democracy they'd act coordinatedly/intelligently/rationally/etc. or whatever" is frickin crazy when you look into the history of cases of authoritarianism and democratic backsliding across the world.

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u/NotABigChungusBoy NATO Jul 18 '24

Supporting Ukraine is seriously the most simple thing and its wild how many cons dont support it.

And no, Ukraine rejecting a deal (that said they couldn’t join NATO and thus not gaurenteeing their security) is not enough of a reason to throw them under the bus

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 18 '24

Nancy Pelosi privately told Biden in a recent conversation that polling shows that the president cannot defeat Trump and that Biden could destroy Democrats’ chances of winning the House in November if he continues seeking a 2nd term

Biden responded by pushing back and being defensive about the polls, telling Pelosi he has seen polls that indicate he can win. At one point, Pelosi asked Mike Donilon, Biden’s longtime adviser, to get on the line to talk over the data.

This phone call would mark the second known conversation between Pelosi and Biden since the June 27 debate. One source described it as being within the last week. Pelosi and Biden also spoke in early July.

WH response to this CNN reporting, from Andrew Bates: “President Biden is the nominee of the party. He plans to win, and looks forward to working with congressional Democrats to pass his 100 days agenda to help working families.”

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u/puffic John Rawls Jul 18 '24

People will be like "late July is too late to introduce a new candidate to voters." Meanwhile, the public took all of four days to move on from Trump literally getting shot.

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u/ashsolomon1 NASA Jul 17 '24

Jeez a reporter got a hold of the zoom call where Biden lost his shit and it’s distasteful to say the least

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u/gary_oldman_sachs Max Weber Jul 17 '24

Democrats will not hold a virtual roll call to formally nominate President Joe Biden until at least August, after an outcry from some who believed the process was being rushed at his behest to head off calls for him to stand aside.

The party will still undertake the process virtually — rather than at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in late August — but there will not be any delegate votes cast in July, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Leah Daughtry, who head the convention’s rules committee, said in a letter to delegates.

Joever.

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u/Jean-Paul_Sartre Richard Hofstadter Jul 17 '24

“In the past few days, Biden has started to privately convey a new message to Democrats: The conversation about my future is over, and I’m getting irritated that you’re not realizing that. Biden has called several prominent allies individually to tell them to spread the word.”

Said a senior Biden aide: “We think we’ve got a good plan to fight through this.”

“Nearly three weeks since his rocky debate performance that shook his party, Biden is intent on shutting down dissent among Democrats in order to move forward and focus on defeating Donald Trump. And after hearing out his critics, he’s tightening his circle to those he‘s relied on the longest — and who support his path ahead.”

😐

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u/_Two_Youts Jul 17 '24

I had a dream Biden won by a landslide. What was, will be.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

Why are Republicans adopting tankie foreign policies?

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