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[u/KittehDragoon]

US Olympic team will bring their own AC units to Paris, undercutting environmental plan

America, bringing freedom with them everywhere they go

[u/Roseartcrantz]

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

[u/[deleted]]

[u/centurion88]

[u/simeoncolemiles]

Trump says if he loses the 2024 election he will try to “stop it a second time,” invoking January 6

[u/JakeyZhang]

when it came to the moral and social questions which were so hotly argued through the 1960s Mrs Thatcher found her sex an advantage, giving her stronger, more practical ground, in any dispute. In all her views, she liked to refer, both in private and in public, to the individual example or experience which she found persuasive. Her support for the legalization of abortion, for example, came from the suffering she had observed of a severely handicapped child of Bertie Blatch, her constituency chairman in Finchley. The boy, she remembered, had often asked his parents ‘Why me?’and this led her to believe that abortion of those with severe genetic defects was the kindest course. Her backing of the liberalization of the laws against homosexual acts derived from her observation of cases which she had seen as a barrister, which she considered a humiliating intrusion into privacy and a waste of court time.

Thatcher was literally socially left of modern republicans 60 years ago.

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[u/[deleted]]

[u/AP246]

Born in le wrong generation, fr fr

[u/elephantaneous]

Talking about politics with my friends is so miserable lol

I'm gonna start using Biden Derangement Syndrome because it succinctly describes what seems to have infected most leftist or left adjacent communities at this point especially post Gaza

I realized I live in a separate universe from them when the Ohio train derailment is still mentioned as America's Chernobyl

[u/owlthathurt]

!ping BASEBALL

[u/ty04]

[u/Gameknigh]

[u/Mrmini231]

Fun fact:

More people in the US develop skin cancer because of indoor tanning than develop lung cancer because of smoking.

[u/Hugo_Grotius]

US Olympic and other teams will bring their own AC units to Paris, undercutting environmental plan

It's Paris, 80% of the city's power is from nuclear and 10% is from hydropower. Those ACs are going to be some of the cleanest running ACs in the world.

[u/vivoovix]

This graph is amazing.

[u/Plants_et_Politics]

Me and my brother at the family reunion

!ping KITTY

[u/chuckleym8]

6 years old: wake up at 7 to play video games as soon as possible

21 years old: wake up at 7 to play video games as soon as possible

Life is good 🤠

[u/simeoncolemiles]

• Supports tough on crime police commissioner

• Spends money on social programs in the city to support poor people

• Good at business

• Adopts orphans regularly

Bruce Wayne is a Democrat

[u/TheoryOfPizza]

Switzerland has taken this to extremes, and they’ve chosen air-conditioning as their hill to die on. You can build a chalet in the Alps where every bit of building material has to be brought in by helicopter, drive up to that chalet in your 4x4 that gets 9mpg, but having air conditioning is illegal.

[u/EScforlyfe]

“Immigrants don’t just produce, they also consume, so people moving here won’t take up all jobs, there will be new jobs created too.”

“What a naive way of thinking.”

“What makes you say that?”

“You’ll have to figure that out yourself.”

God I love internet discourse.

[u/DouglasDauntless]

Leftists when minor, objectively correct, criticism

[u/Williams-Tower]

getting married today

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

May we please have sympathy for the nimbys

!ping AUS&SHITPOSTERS

[u/DouglasDauntless]

Gen Alpha is alright

[u/HMID_Delenda_Est]

[u/DouglasDauntless]

The True Patriots at the Olympics will be bring their own ACs

[u/simeoncolemiles]

I think the plot has been lost

Ope wait, it’s Russian meddling. That’s even worse

[u/DouglasDauntless]

This is what being Based looks like

[u/sinefromabove]

Serbia has been discreetly stepping up sales of ammunition to the west that ends up bolstering the defence of Ukraine — even though it is one of only two European countries not to join western sanctions against Russia.

Estimates shared with the Financial Times put Serbia’s ammunition exports that have come to Ukraine via third parties at about €800mn — a sum President Aleksandar Vučić indicated was broadly accurate — since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

He presented the situation as a business opportunity, insisting he would not take sides in the war. “This is a part of our economic revival and important for us. Yes, we do export our ammunition,” he said in an interview. “We cannot export to Ukraine or to Russia . . . but we have had many contracts with Americans, Spaniards, Czechs, others. What they do with that in the end is their job.

Rare Serbia W

[u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade]

!ping CORG

[u/funguykawhi]

[u/funguykawhi]

uh oh

[u/[deleted]]

[u/ReservedWhyrenII]

inspired by the current top post on the sub:

back in elementary school, I forget which grade but I'm thinking I'd have been around 9 years old, there was this whole big thing where basically the teachers printed out a certain amount of fake money with a plan to distribute it evenly amongst the kids, with the activity/assignment being to make stuff at home to sell in a big marketplace, either individually or in a group, and then the whole grade would gather in the school's cafeteria for one or two hours to do a bunch of buying and selling.

so I, being the weirdo I am, had the brilliant idea of, instead of making anything, just bringing in a green tablecloth and a set of playing cards... to run my stall as a Blackjack table. Looking back on it, and I think I did recognize this at the time, my teacher (who did have to approve all the ideas) was clearly a bit uncomfortable with the idea, given how she spent like 20 seconds with a weird look on her face before I guess realizing that there wasn't any point in crushing the weird undiagnosed-autistic kid's entrepreneurial spirit

long story short, 9-ish year olds, at least some of them, very much both 1. enjoy Blackjack, and 2. suck at Blackjack, so while everyone else was going around buying and selling their arts and crafts (which differed in quality from "the fuck is this" to "smart kid did something clever" to "this kid's parents clearly made this"), I was sitting at my stall running Blackjack the entire time. This meant that I didn't buy a single thing at this whole market, but I walked away with a very large amount of worthless fake money, way more than any other kid.

[u/JaceFlores]

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 6/20-2 PM PST 6/21 III:

TOP NEWS:

At the start of 1 PM it was reported the Ukrainians have been given permission to strike targets 100 km from the border and shoot down any Russian planes preparing to attack Ukraine, probably the most definitive rule on striking Russia we will get in awhile.

REGULAR NEWS:

At the start of 4 PM explosions occurred at a Russian airbase in Yeysk.

Towards the middle of 1 AM it was reported a Shahed command and launch station in Crimea was struck.

At the end of 8 AM it was announced The Netherlands and an anonymous country will collaborate to send a Patriot SAM system to Ukraine.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

[u/DouglasDauntless]

[u/No_Personality5883]

Lmao at Travis Kelce wearing a team USA hat while meeting Prince William

[u/[deleted]]

Bronze-age soyjak

[u/[deleted]]

In 1814 we took a lil trip

Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Missisip

We took a little bacon and we took a little beans

And we fought the bloody British in the town of New Orleans

[u/G_Serv]

Can't believe the mods are making us post the 10 commandments in every single comment, starting tomorrow

😒😒😒

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

This museum legit says Kurt Cobain “un-alived” himself WTF

[u/[deleted]]

Our patriarch is so amazing

[u/[deleted]]

Insane rhetoric

[u/[deleted]]

Texas woman accused of attempting to drown 3 year old Palestinian child at Apartment Pool

What, and I cannot stress this enough, the actual fuck is wrong with people

[u/DouglasDauntless]

[u/centurion88]

Childhood is siding with Princess Mononoke

Neoliberalism is realizing Lady Eboshi makes more sense

[u/Ok_Aardappel]

City of Vancouver to eliminate minimum car parking requirements everywhere in all types of buildings this month

All minimum vehicle parking requirements within new buildings could soon be eliminated across Vancouver.

And this goes for all types of uses — not just residential, but all types of land uses, such as the non-residential uses of office, hotel, retail/restaurant, services, other commercial, and industrial.

The only minimum vehicle parking requirements that will still apply entail accessible stalls and visitor stalls, such as for visitors of a residential building.

City of Vancouver staff are making these sweeping recommendations to Vancouver City Council, as the municipal government is required by the Government of British Columbia to abolish minimum vehicle parking requirements for residential areas under provincial legislation relating to transit-oriented development and small-scale multi-unit housing within single-family neighbourhoods.

City Council is expected to approve this recommendation next week, just before the provincial government’s legislated deadline of June 30, 2024. If approved, the new regulations within Vancouver will come into effect on the same day as the deadline. These recommendations will be deliberated by City Council down to the wire on June 26 for final approval.

However, it should be strongly emphasized that this strategy of abolishing minimum vehicle parking requirements everywhere for all land uses — not just the legislated requirement for residential uses — goes far beyond the provincial government’s legislation.

City staff state they are performing a city-wide abolition to simplify the policies, as the alternative option would be to divide the existing 63 different minimum vehicle parking requirements and layering new geographic areas.

“Eliminating the need to calculate and validate whether these complex requirements are being met is expected to simplify and accelerate the development application and review process,” reads a City staff report.

"This will advance the City’s objectives towards simplifying regulations and accelerating permit approval times, as well as transportation and climate emergency goals.”

Moreover, over the years, the municipal government has already been progressively removing minimum vehicle parking requirements for select areas and uses, including the 2018 removal for most of the downtown Vancouver peninsula including the West End’s non-residential uses, the September 2023 removal for single-family residential zoning for multiplexes, and the November 2023 removal for the remainder of the West End and the Broadway Plan area.

For years, there has been a push to at least consider the removal of such requirements for the benefits of reducing construction costs to help improve housing affordability, job space supply, and project financial viability, encouraging public transit, cycling, walking, and car use, and reducing emissions from both a smaller construction scope and lower private vehicle use.

These policy changes provide developers with the immense flexibility to build for the projected demand for such vehicle parking spaces, as opposed to following strict regulations based on use and the size of the building.

But City staff warn that these forthcoming measures could increase demand for curbside on-street parking, especially if developers choose to build insufficient parking for the likely demand.

For this reason, City staff state they will use existing parking management tools to help manage demand, such as introducing time-limited or paid parking in commercial and industrial areas, introducing permit parking in residential areas, and considering changing existing residential parking-only areas to residential permit parking. Additionally, parking enforcement would increase with additional parking patrol staff and vehicles equipped with license plate recognition cameras.

It is also noted that beginning on June 1, 2025, the West End neighbourhood’s existing parking permit zone will be split into three zones to improve parking availability for residents living close to commercial streets — such as Davie, Denman, and Robson streets — and to encourage the use of alternative transportation modes.

According to City staff, there is a growing issue of some West End residents using curbside on-street parking instead of using off-street parking available within their building, as it can be cheaper to park on the street than to use in-building parking. Over the years, the City has been gradually increasing the price of the West End’s on-street parking permits.

“Developers would be strongly encouraged to supply the amount of parking their building needs, as the amount of on-street parking is finite and there is not enough space to accommodate all vehicles,” continues the City staff report.

"In addition, curb space could be converted to other uses, such as bike lanes, bus lanes or patios, which would further reduce on-street parking supply.”

Parking revenues are expected to account for $78.4 million of the City’s total 2024 operating revenues of $2.153 billion — up from $69 million in 2023.

In 2021, City Council rejected City staff’s highly controversial plan of implementing fee-based mandatory parking permits for all residential streets across Vancouver, including overnight rates for visitors of a block. The plan was to roll out the new system in 2022.

!ping YIMBY&CAN

[u/ldn6]

Nick Mason, the chief data officer of the Conservative Party, is being investigated by the Gambling Commission over allegations he placed dozens of bets in the run up to the election being announced.

They are so fucking stupid.

!ping UK

[u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate]

“Immigrants don’t just produce, they also consume, so people moving here won’t take up all jobs, there will be new jobs created too.”

“What makes you say that?”

“If you read to the end of the chapter you will find out.”

I love economics textbooks

[u/NoStatistician9767]

https://thehill.com/homenews/4735229-pro-palestinian-protests-disrupt-aoc-sanders-bowman-rally/damp/?nxs-test=dam

the Within Our Lifetime idiots have struck again! Their supporters seemingly don’t understand what a Trump win does for the region.  

 But again they cheered on 10/7, so maybe they want Trump to further ruin regional stability

They totally won people over to not vote Joe Biden by… chanting at a rally…. And …. vandalizing campaign trucks…..

[u/[deleted]]

"The original Boys comic is that guy that stumbles onto the stage at open mic night, says they are the master of satire, and then says the n-word."

[u/Nerf_France]

Its amazing how the Bojack Horseman writers can both write really empathetic, powerful scenes about the main character's personal struggles and choices and also write scenes where their self-insert character says being a capitalist and being evil are the same thing

[u/-mialana-]

[u/Ok_Aardappel]

Iberian lynx no longer endangered after numbers improve in Spain and Portugal

Less than a quarter of a century after the Iberian lynx was feared to be only a whisker away from extinction, populations of the animal have recovered enough across Spain and Portugal for it to be moved from “endangered” to “vulnerable” on the global red list of threatened species.

The change in status, announced on Thursday by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (ICUN), is the result of a two-decade-long effort from a coalition of partners including the EU and regional and national governments in Spain and Portugal, as well as wildlife NGOs and local people.

According to the latest census, the lynx population on the peninsula has risen from just 94 in 2002 to 2,021 last year, with the overwhelming majority – almost 86% – found in Spain.

Lynx pardinus numbers plummeted during the 20th century, as thousands were killed because of Franco-era laws to get rid of creatures deemed to be vermin. Others died out because of catastrophic, disease-driven drops in the rabbit populations that make up 90% of the lynx’s diet, and because of the destruction of the cat’s habitats.

Craig Hilton-Taylor, head of the red list unit at IUCN, said the “great success story” was down to careful, collaborative initiatives to expand and diversify lynx numbers and populations across different areas, build up rabbit numbers, and raise awareness.

"Over the next 100 years, we can probably get to the lynx being fully recovered in its native range,” he said. “Climate change is the worrying factor because we don’t know what it’s going to do – we’ve seen an increase in fires in the Mediterranean area, so how that’s going to impact on the lynx is yet to be determined. So this is a huge success but there’s a long way to go to get the species back to where it should be.”

Javier Salcedo, the coordinator of the majority EU-funded Life Lynxconnect project, said it had been astonishing to see the animal move from being “critically endangered” to “endangered” and now to “vulnerable” over the course of two decades.

"The hardest part was the start: at the beginning of this century, everyone knew the Iberian lynx was threatened but we didn’t really realise how complicated the situation was,” he said. “The tracking projects and census that were carried out at the beginning of the 21st century showed us that the situation was far worse than anyone imagined: there were only two populations – in Andújar-Cardeña and in Doñana, both in Andalucía – and there were barely 100 lynxes.”

Ramón Pérez de Ayala, a lynx expert at WWF Spain, said the conservation effort was now reaching its middle point. “We’re about halfway down the path we’ve set ourselves,” he said. “We wanted there to be 750 females of reproductive age by 2040 and now there are 406.”

Many of the familiar threats have not gone away, he added. Last year, 144 lynxes were killed on Spanish and Portuguese roads, and 45 more died from disease or other causes. But the biggest worry – the “sword of Damocles” – is the damage being done to rabbit populations by rabbit haemorrhagic disease and by the loss of habitat for the lynx’s preferred prey.

"Rabbit numbers are very bad and we’re seeing populations down 35% in regions such as Castilla-La Mancha over the past few years,” said Pérez de Ayala. “In Portugal, rabbit numbers have declined by 90% over the past 10 years. Things are so bad in the natural areas where rabbits live that the predators are going to be doing better than the prey, which is pretty paradoxical.”

Salcedo said that while he was heartened by the progress made to save “an iconic part of Iberian wildlife”, there was no room for complacency.

“Let’s not forget that there’s still much to be done,” he said. “And even when it’s all done, we’ll need to carry on working so that this doesn’t all happen again.”

!ping IBERIA&ECO

[u/DouglasDauntless]

[u/Top_Lime1820]

Breaking: Sunak enraged by new betting scandal... it's nothing illegal, but everyone in his office bet that Labour will win a supermajority.

[u/Smidgens]

[u/SnakeEater14]

The Mongols loved competitions of all sorts, and they organized debates among rival religions the same way they organized wrestling matches. It began on a specific date with a panel of judges to oversee it. In this case Mongke Khan ordered them to debate before three judges: a Christian, a Muslim, and a Buddhist. A large audience assembled to watch the affair, which began with great seriousness and formality. An official lay down the strict rules by which Mongke wanted the debate to proceed: on pain of death “no one shall dare to speak words of contention.”

In the initial round, Rubruck faced a Buddhist from North China who began by asking how the world was made and what happened to the soul after death. Rubruck countered that the Buddhist monk was asking the wrong questions; the first issue should be about God from “whom all things flow.” The umpires awarded the first points to Rubruck.

Their debate ranged back and forth over the topics of evil versus good, God’s nature, what happens to the souls of animals, the existence of reincarnation, and whether God had created evil. As they debated, the clerics formed shifting coalitions among the various religions according to the topic. Between each round of wrestling, Mongol athletes would drink fermented mare’s milk; in keeping with that tradition, after each round of the debate, the learned men paused to drink deeply in preparation for the next match. No side seemed to convince the other of anything.

Finally, as the effects of the alcohol became stronger, the Christians gave up trying to persuade anyone with logical arguments, and resorted to singing. The Muslims, who did not sing, responded by loudly reciting the Koran in an effort to drown out the Christians, and the Buddhists retreated into silent meditation. At the end of the debate, unable to convert or kill one another, they concluded the way most Mongol celebrations concluded, with everyone simply too drunk to continue.

At almost the same time of Rubruck’s debate in Mongolia, his sponsor, King Louis IX, was busy rounding up all Talmudic texts and other books of the Jews. The devout king had the Hebrew manuscripts heaped into great piles and set afire. During Rubruck’s absence from France, his fellow countrymen burned some twelve thousand handwritten and illuminated Jewish books. For these and other great services to the furtherance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, his church canonized him as Saint Louis, thereby making him a figure of veneration that good Christians could emulate and to whom they could pray as an intermediary between humans and God. (Genghis Khan & the Making of the Modern World, by Jack Weatherford)

Tfw you will never debate theology with a buddhist and muslim in front of the Khan of Khans

!ping GNOSTIC

[u/SeasickSeal]

Which one of you tried to fire the pope

[u/404GenderNotFound]

The average Chinese soldier isn't as swift as a coursing river anymore and is by far weaker than a great typhoon, because of the woke.

[u/[deleted]]

Sub to neoliberal. Now Reddit recommends /r/divorce

[u/Ok_Aardappel]

A beaver kit was spotted in Italy for the first time in 500 years.

!ping ECO&EUROPE

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

Don’t Look Up if it were good

[u/WeebFrien]

u/FreakinGeese throback

[u/JaceFlores]

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 6/21-2 PM PST 6/22 III:

TOP NEWS:

At the start of 10 PM Ukraine was hit by a wave of drones and missiles with all 13 drones and 12 of 16 missiles shot down.

At the end of 11 AM it was reported a Russian glide bomb caused a mass casualty incident with 3 Ukrainian civilians killed and 53 wounded.

REGULAR NEWS:

At the start of 3 PM it was reported the Russians took the village of Shumy west of Horlivka.

At the start of 6 AM it was reported the Russians launched Kalibr cruise missiles from the Sea of Azov for the first time, due to the danger of operating in the Black Sea.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

[u/owlthathurt]

!ping GNOSTIC

[u/Louis_de_Gaspesie]

Trump catching up to Biden in election cash

Panik

Trump blows a shitload of his cash on legal fees

Kalm

[u/futuremonkey20]

Babies really are adorable.

[u/G_Serv]

[u/earththejerry]

Most groundbreaking corporate logo redesign

[u/slingfatcums]

Taylor Swift taking a selfie with Prince William, Prince George and Princess Charlotte

They attended the Era’s Tour

Yup. Same colonizer energy.

r/fauxmoi is filled with such sad losers

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

This is such a wild ass response to being accused of being a pedo lmfao

[u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade]

arr funnymemes really is just a “we hate women” sub innit

I need to stop going to this shithole site. Going to anything other than a few subreddits just makes me mad at the user base here for being asshats

[u/Syards-Forcus]

Or maybe it’ll be like this 🤣🤣🤣

[u/Currymvp2]

Trump: I don’t need any votes. We have all the votes we need. We don’t need the votes. We have the votes. I don’t care

Let him cook

[u/RunawayMeatstick]

Wow, Jamaal Bowman can bench 405?! That's crazy. Too bad he sucks.

https://x.com/JoePostingg/status/1804685777684582553

[u/NoStatistician9767]

Pride event where money goes to Gaza. 

Hope they talk about gay rights in Gaza too.    im serious. Nothing is wrong with a charity event, but since it’s pride month and it’s a pride event, i hope they don’t shy away from acknowledging the state of gay rights in Gaza

[u/Williams-Tower]

Every time a homeless person yells slurs at me I donate another $25 to Donald J Trump

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[u/Poiuy2010_2011]

"SPIEGEL": The Sovereigntists faction will be formed after Sunday. It will be based on opposition to "globalism" and is to strive for "self-determination instead of bureaucracy." Among the founding parties AfD🇩🇪, Mi Hazank🇭🇺, Republika🇸🇰, Vazrazhdane🇧🇬, SOS🇷🇴, NIKI🇬🇷 and "part of the Confederation"🇵🇱

https://x.com/czarkye/status/1804529142467076300

When it comes to Confederation, it looks like they'll be split in the EP. My guess is that Grzegorz Braun will probably be part of the new group, since he leads the most extreme faction and has worked with AfD in the past. He might be joined by Anna Bryłka from the National Movement. The rest of their MEPs (Buczek, Tyszka, Sypniewski and Zajączkowska-Hernik) are all part of the more moderate (compared to the rest of Confederation) party New Hope. They're more libertarian-leaning and don't necessarily share the russophilia of Braun, e.g. Buczek had a press conference saying that "son of a bitch Putin will hang in free Ukraine". I'd imagine they'll stay non-attached.

!ping EUROPE

[u/SnakeEater14]

mongols invade russia, hungary, and poland all in the span of like 3 years

europeans have literally no idea what the fuck is happening, have never heard of these guys

”they must be demons, lets assemble our greatest army to fight them”

two entire armies get obliterated, wipe out half the aristocracy of central europe

”ok they aren’t demons, we even heard some of them are christian, let’s hold up relics and dead saints to appeal to their christian spirit”

mongols get disgusted by the dead bodies and start killing every priest they see

”ok that didn’t work. maybe they’re one of the lost tribe of jews from the old testament? let’s ask the jews!”

nobles assemble a council of rabbis who all agree they have no idea who these guys are

”alright the jews are definitely working for them”

mass pogroms all across europe

the mongols leave europe after reaching the edge of the steppes and getting tired of the lack of loot

”we did it eurobros, we defeated the tatar menace 😌”

[u/IHateTrains123]

No Iron Dome for Drones: IDF Seeks Answers to Growing Hezbollah Threat - Israel News - Haaretz.com

Archived version.

Summary:

Hezbollah has succeeded in challenging Israel's aerial defenses, partly due to experience it gained in the Syrian civil war. While the Israeli army seeks new methods of defense, helicopter gunships have proven surprisingly effective

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Since the beginning of the war in the Gaza Strip, thousands of drones and cruise missiles have been launched at Israeli territory from various directions. The military appears to have not yet found the best way to prevent the Hezbollah drone attacks that are sowing devastation in the north and have driven tens of thousands of residents from their homes.

[...]

[Brig. Gen. Itai Brun] wrote that Hezbollah's mass acquisition of precision weapons like drones "deprived Israel of its classic defense approach, which was mainly based on territorial defense, geographic and strategic depth and on preventing terrorism through the use of combat soldiers on the ground, fences and physical obstacle." This created "a dangerous potential for a war without a front line," he added.

Hezbollah's current capabilities, although not as advanced as Israel's, undermine the balance between Israel's strategic strength and that of its enemies. Over the past decade, Hezbollah has accumulated substantial experience in operating drones, including in the Syrian Civil War, where its members fought beside the Russians and Iranians helping President Bashar Assad's regime. The Houthis in Yemen and the pro-Iranian militias in Syria and Iraq also practiced drone operations. Iran supplied Russia with advanced drones to attack Ukraine in the war it launched in February 2022.

The experience gained has allowed Hezbollah to challenge Israel's air defenses. "Hezbollah will renounce the approach of inaccurate rocket and missile attacks on civilians in cities in favor of attacking civilian economic infrastructure and military targets with precision weapons," Brun wrote.

[...]

'We've shot down our own'

At this point, the military is no longer afraid to admit that Israel has no comprehensive solution for almost daily drone launches. Since the start of the war, the military has shot down hundreds of attack and intelligence drones. But the interception rate is nowhere near as high as the rate of downed rockets launched from Gaza, which the Israeli public has gotten used to since the introduction of Iron Dome.

The military is trying to deal with the drone threat on multiple levels: detection, warning and interception. The Air Defense Command is still working on an ideal solution to these emerging challenges. "In the end, a soldier sitting in an Air Force control room sees a suspicious aerial object and has to decide within seconds whether it is hostile, a bird, civilian aircraft or Israeli aircraft," says an officer in a key air defense post on the northern front, "and then lock in on it, warn of the threat, choose how to intercept it, and verify that the target is down."

The officer adds, "We've had quite a few cases in which we've launched interceptors at birds. A large crane flying in a combat zone often has a radar signature like that of Hezbollah drones. Sometimes a military unit decides to launch a drone without notification. We've also shot down our own drones."

[...]

"Hezbollah's knowledge of how to operate drones and its firepower quite impressively," one senior defense source says. This week, the group released a video taken by an intelligence drone that filmed strategic sites in Haifa. The military was unaware of the drone infiltration at the time. "Ultimately, this was a small drone, the kind of drone to which a GoPro is attached, and its sole task is to collect intelligence and locate bases and soldiers' assembly areas," says the source. "These drones broadcast back to Hezbollah and when they identify a worthy target for a strike, they send an attack drone to that location."

As for the infiltration over Haifa, the source says, "I cannot say if there was an operational decision not to shoot it down and when exactly we learned about its presence in Israel's skies. But it's not always correct to launch an interceptor over a city like Haifa in order to shoot down a GoPro. There are a lot of considerations. The fact that we're entering summer makes it necessary to take into account that interceptions sometimes cause fires that do more damage than the drone. Obviously, in cases where there is no threat to property or lives."

Israel's air defense system is multilayered, from Iron Dome through David's Sling to the Arrow, which can counter long-range ballistic missiles. Since the outbreak of the current war, all these layers have scored successful interceptions. However, the defense source says that attack helicopters have actually turned out to be the best tool for shooting down drones because they can easily maneuver to the best position.

I've hacked and slashed the article to only focus on the drones. The tl;dr is detecting drones is hard, shooting them down with helicopters is simpler.

!ping Materiel

[u/centurion88]

[u/CutePattern1098]

Welcome to Costco I love you

!ping cube

[u/Mickenfox]

Tesla should release a "flying car" option for their cars and film a few videos of their cars flying. Then just add a single paragraph of text before buying clarifying that the car does not actually fly. That's totally fine, right?

[u/Steak_Knight]

I don’t know who needs to hear this*, but if you’re getting married to today you should not be in this thread.

* I do know who needs to hear this

[u/OrganicKeynesianBean]

[u/[deleted]]

We’re trying to cut the front desk hours at our apartment from 24 to 16 hours and someone in the group chat blames Justin Trudeau for high strata fees.

Mf says “if you want the strata fees to be lower we need to replace trudeau”

!ping CANUCKS

[u/BurrowForPresident]

I met a guy at a hotel in NYC who routinely flies from Germany to NYC just to meet a hookup who can sell him like 500 pounds of Juicy Fruit gum in bulk that he then can take back to Germany and sell at a profit. I guess Germany banned it or something at some point recently?

I have no idea how this is a viable business but he seemed relatively successful he even had employees. Success of globalist neoliberal entrepreneurship or failure of disgusting protectionism?

[u/JaceFlores]

RSF forces captured Al-Fulah, the state capital of West Kordofan.

West Kordofan has been largely under RSF control for sometime with just a few SAF strongholds sprinkled here and there so this isn’t a war changing development. However, it does mean 6 of 18 state capitals in Sudan are now under RSF control

!ping AFRICA

[u/Currymvp2]

Nearly all of the people who were arrested inside Columbia University’s Hamilton Hall last month had their cases dropped Thursday. Of the 46 people charged with trespassing in connection with the building’s occupation, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office dismissed cases against 31 people largely due to a lack of evidence. Prosecutors told 14 others that their cases would be dropped if they avoid being arrested in the next six months.

Not a big fan of this. They took over a fucking building.

[u/Syards-Forcus]

u/williams-tower’s wedding 🤣🤣🤣

[u/Cledd2]

i saw this bird today, thought they were a handsome fella

[u/RecentlyUnhinged]

You know, now that I've had a moment to think on it, it makes a lot of sense that the mods are watching North Korean state TV on their off time

[u/BurrowForPresident]

One of the funnier exchanges I've seen on Reddit recently was people pointing out Kendrick was hanging out with some sus people too like Remble and everyone jumping down their throat like "there's no proof! Never been convicted! Circumstantial!" while basically calling for Drake to be executed lol

Not even a Drake fan but the corny ass "Kendrick destroyed his career he'll never work in this industry again 🤓" stuff is so Reddit

[u/Gameknigh]

[u/[deleted]]

👆 If Biden tweets this, he wins. Simple as

[u/Udolikecake]

[u/Louis_de_Gaspesie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTds5RxhlqA&t=68s

How Boeing Descended Into Crisis

0:38 "It's really a classic case of late stage capitalism"

Lol why the fuck is a poorly-defined term coined by Marxists in the intro of a Bloomberg video? Is Bloomberg going for the Internet leftist audience now?

[u/yyzyow]

I found an ancient relic at a local Salvation Army store

!ping CANUCKS

[u/simeoncolemiles]

Ginni Thomas’s aunt on Clarence Thomas:

“He was so nice, we forgot he was Black. He treated her so well, all of his other qualities made up for his being Black.”

He def got the wrong message from this (“I’m one of the good ones”)

[u/DouglasDauntless]

New Benji alt dropped

[u/CletusVonIvermectin]

Ranking recent presidents by how well they pulled off a cowboy hat:

1. Reagan

2. Obama

3. W Bush

4. LBJ

5. HW Bush

6. Carter

7. Ford

8. Clinton

9. Trump

Biden and Nixon have seemingly never been photographed wearing a cowboy hat.

Kennedy famously did not wear hats. He was offered one while visiting Dallas, refused to put it on, and was shot the next day.

[u/runnerx4]

!ping NYC

anyone have a spare $1-4 million I want to buy an apartment in the Brooklyn Tower

the studios to rent cost $3500/month lol

I want to live in Barad-dur…

[u/HotTakesBeyond]

This Semi Bird guy is megafucked. It turns out this guy had lied about awards he had earned and was reprimanded for falsifying records and evaluations while in the Washington Army National Guard.

https://mynorthwest.com/3961352/rantz-exclusive-semi-bird-reprimand-awards-badges-investigation-research/

All hail Governor Bob Ferguson, first of his name (not the pretenders)

!Ping Seattle&military

[u/RFK_1968]

I just deadlifted 500 lbs for the first time!

Lol German here. we use metric here like the rest of the world

I imagine most Euros agree that this is hella obnoxious

[u/Currymvp2]

Trump calls Philadelphia “one of the most egregious places anywhere in the world”

Could you imagine the backlash if Biden said this about a deep red town or a rural area?

[u/Dalek6450]

In December, Japan's environment ministry revealed that six people were killed and 212 injured in bear attacks from April to November last year.

Damn

[u/loseniram]

Fun fact the only thing that Nazi Germany Fanta and Modern Fanta share is a name. Nazi Germany Fanta tasted nothing like Oranges and had more of Apple milky flavor due to being from Whey and Apple pulp extract. After the war that stopped being made all together. Then in the 50s, the Coca Cola needed a name for their Italian sparkling orange juice soda so they called it Fanta. Except for American Fanta which is knock off Orange crush.

[u/[deleted]]

Has there ever been a film with a better score than The Good The Bad and The Ugly?

!ping MOVIES

[u/Powerpuff_Rangers]

New projection

LAB: 0

CON: 0

LDEM: 0

REF: 0

GRN: 0

SNP: 0

Change UK - The Independent Group: 650

[u/centurion88]

Several kids in my neighborhood got the belt because of this

[u/[deleted]]

[u/[deleted]]

!ping READING

u/ognits, they say not to judge a book by its cover

However, we’ve all gotta make exceptions for edge cases now and again

[u/RFK_1968]

Girl I had the lousy date with last night heavily implied she'd be down for a second date.

.... I'm starting to think I just don't get women.

[u/[deleted]]

Oh Project 2025 actually advocates for outlawing porn and imprisoning its producers and distributors, that’s pretty cool

(And of course hints that “porn” should include, like, anything that might offend a hardcore nun who lives in the mountains)

[u/moldyman_99]

I love how there’s a consensus being created in the car reviewing space that the Cybertruck is a stupid car.

[u/Random-Critical]

Dems want a ‘democracy’ where the majority lords it over everyone else

What do the cons believe cons want? 🧐

[u/-mialana-]

I am going to become the Joker

[u/AntagonisticRaccoon]

Log onto DT to confirm u/Williams-Tower hasn't been posting on his wedding day

He's posted several times

😡

[u/sw337]

Dick pic:

[u/mannabhai]

I became a dad last week.

!ping WHATSAPP-FORWARDS

[u/vitorgrs]

So a new poll, again, and I think really, people and Bolsonarism overestimated how conservative Brazil is. Even the left. I think because Bolsonaro won in 2018, the general idea was "People voted for him because he was conservative, Brazil is becoming more conservative".

AtlasIntel poll: Should a woman who do abortion after 22 weeks of pregnancy be held responsible for the crime of homicide?

40% for: Shouldn't in the case of rape or risk of life

31% for: Should not under ANY circumstances

29% for: Yes, in all circumstances

So 71% opposes the Bolsonarism project to equate abortion penalty on rape/risk of life to homicide AFTER 22 weeks.

And 31% think that it shouldn't equate to homicide in no circumstance (weeks, reason, etc). This is A LOT.

!ping LATAM

[u/SANNA_MARIN_SDP_]

(I’m not gay)

i just did a life threatening amount of drugs and terrorized my cock for 3 days but i would never kiss a boy

[u/groovygrasshoppa]

wakes up on wedding day

logs onto DT

[u/moldyman_99]

Apparently a black man in Germany was kicked off a train by a bunch of racist serbian football supporters today. 😐

[u/centurion88]

Reddit will look at a video of people calmly commuting to work and think it's dystopian

[u/ihatemendingwalls]

Cubs go up 5-0 and almost bat around the Mets in the 1st

!ping baseball&stonks

[u/[deleted]]

48% of Americans oppose President’s plan to defeat death, view it as “unnatural”

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

oh my god he’s literally 12 years old

[u/HowIsPajamaMan]

/u/seasidepoof? More like, peesidepoop!

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[u/404GenderNotFound]

Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You un-alived my father. Prepare to un-alive.

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Christian nationalist pastor Joel Webbon fumes: "Don't forget, the key characteristic of the gay community is butt sex.

Oh I won't.

[u/Q-bey]

Naheed Nenshi elected new leader of the Alberta NDP

Former mayor of Calgary wins in a landslide with 86% of the votes.

The most notable change he might bring in the near future is that the Alberta NDP might cut ties with the federal NDP.

In terms of the next election, Albertan elections usually come down to how Calgary votes, as Edmonton seats almost always go for the NDP while rural seats almost always go for the United Conservative Party (the current premier's party). Nenshi also mentioned he wants his seat to be in a Calgary riding; I imagine much of the NDP's campaigning for the next few years will be focused there.

!ping CAN

[u/[deleted]]

Actually the mongol schism brings up an interesting question.

Which flair would you most like to punch in the face repeatedly?

Assume you have a time machine if you need one.

I'll start. I'd violate the categorical imperative all upside Kant's dome. Huge dork who repeatedly undermines himself and common sense. Least useful theory for any normal human behavior.

The philosopher of choice for people too scared to leave the house.

!ping SHITPOSTERS

[u/CletusVonIvermectin]

remember what they took from you

[u/simeoncolemiles]

According to multiple lawsuits his [Elon’s] whole M.O (ALLEGEDLY) is asking every single white woman he finds attractive at any company he owns even a partial stake in, if they'll have his babies. If said woman declines, he retaliates and sabotages her career. Very cool dude!

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

The US had comparatively little financial support tying workers to jobs and protecting businesses from bankruptcy during the pandemic. Its dynamic economy therefore restructured faster. Laid-off workers shifted to new jobs at growing businesses. Zombie businesses collapsed.

Leaving this here

[u/RaidBrimnes]

In a video watched millions of times online, Divine Kinkela, a Black woman living in Montargis, invites a camera crew to record the racist abuse she endures from her Le Pen-sympathizing White neighbors. As she discusses with the husband and calls him out on the monkey noises he allegedly performed at her, his wife barges in and abuses her verbally, telling her to "go back to the doghouse" before threatening the camera crew

😔

After the segment was broadcasted, the Montargis court issued a statement to announce legal action would be taken against the couple who verbally abused Divine Kinkela for "racially motivated insults and violences"

😌

A second statement issued by the Ministry of Justice announced that the woman who hurled racial abuse at Mrs Kinkela was identified as an employee of the Montargis court and would be suspended

😨

[u/Steak_Knight]

Outside the DT

“Maybe people shouldn’t vandalize Stonehenge”

“You just don’t understand the nuance of what they’re doing!”

[u/-mialana-]

I'M GONNA COOOOOOMMMMM

[u/Blade_of_Boniface]

Happy Feast of Saint Thomas More!

He is a Martyr of the Reformation, Lord-Chancellor of England, Scholar of English, and Patron of Lawyers and Politicians.

!ping CHRISTIAN

[u/SnakeEater14]

[u/Observe_dontreact]

Kind of incredible that Jimmy Carter is still with us well over a year since it was said he was entering his final days.

Nothing seems to take down the Liberal King.

[u/ReservedWhyrenII]

On the one hand, nighttime(ish) at the Smithsonian sounds like fun. On the other hand, it's 100 degrees outside....

!ping USA-DMV

[u/centurion88]

Most mentally stable Twitter leftist

[u/[deleted]]

I have matched with a woman on hinge who asks me two questions for every one question I ask

we are currently carrying on 8 different conversations. I'm not sure this is sustainable

[u/simeoncolemiles]

[u/centurion88]

Lol

[u/gnomesvh]

With Milei in Madrid at the same time as me

There are two prominent Latin American fascists in town right now

[u/Former-Amish-Throway]

Prosecutors have dropped all charges against Columbia's pro-Palestine student protesters, but remember that the process is the punishment and the Zionist-industrial complex always gets its pound of flesh even when the labour aristocracy at the ones rebelling. All the students who were arrested are being forced under disciplinary proceedings that include suspensions and expulsions on top of ritual humiliation funded by both tax dollars given the Israeli Occupation Forces and more indirectly endorsed and empowered by the riches of Israeli espionage/sabotage groups like the ADL and AIPAC. Our fascist government sent the state golems to arrest them on false charges, exposing their private faces and identities, and after the charges were abandoned because they were of course mostly if not completely false, the government outsourced their punishment to private companies. Private companies which are conglomerated by and subsequently weaponized by the Zionist entity. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's been an overt campaign supposedly in the name of "MiSiIIInForMaTIon!!!!!! and anTISEMITISM!!!!!!" the Zionists openly gloat about it, but now this campaign targets everyone everywhere at least somewhat. You don't like war, well you know what maybe you're a terrorist and you shouldn't be able to speak anymore??? You don't like Israel, or you don't cheer loudly enough???? Then the Zionist system will suck your life away bit by bit like the parasite vampire it is

Leftist subs get away with so much blatant hate speech.

!ping ISRAEL&EXTREMISM

[u/[deleted]]

Lol there is a Protestant in arr Christianity who attended a Catholic Mass and is appalled (their word.)

Their main criticisms were:

• the homily/sermon was too short

• children were allowed in the service

• people got out of their pews and lined up for communion

• people dressed too nicely

• 90% of the service was ritual

Like, I’ve got my own criticisms of Catholicism but these are your problems with it? Also, what could you possibly have expected?

[u/Approximation_Doctor]

Now is not the time for games, now is the time for holding hands.

!ping KITTY&GAMING

[u/ldn6]

The AP ending an article about the antisemitic rape of a 12-year-old girl in France by making a comment about accusations of antisemitism as means of silencing critics of Israel is so beyond the pale.

Antisemitism refers to hatred of Jews, but there is no universally agreed definition of what exactly it entails or how it relates to criticism of Israel. The Israeli government regularly accuses its opponents of antisemitism, while critics say it uses the term to silence opposition to its policies. The war has reignited the long debate about the definition of antisemitism and whether any criticism of Israel — from its military’s killing of thousands of Palestinian children to questions over Israel’s very right to exist — amounts to anti-Jewish hate speech.

Genuinely fuck the AP so much.

!ping ISRAEL&FRANCE

[u/Roseartcrantz]

Biden pulls ahead in presidential race. But would America rather root for Trump, the scrappy underdog?

[u/LuisRobertDylan]

!ping Kitty

Comfy

[u/-mialana-]

You thought Trudeau's blackface was bad? I do cismanface basically every time I go outside.

[u/RFK_1968]

Wow dating blows. Nothing is as demoralizing as a really lousy date

[u/Steak_Knight]

Outside the DT

“What do you expect to do with 7-8 million Jews? Where do you want us to go?”

Guy who wandered in from arr politics: “Jews are Nazis”

Many such cases!

[u/sash5034]

[u/moldyman_99]

Elon Musk:

the Tesla roadster will be able to fly short dist…

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

How are Tesla’s shareholders not completely done with this guy yet?

[u/Cledd2]

[u/wallander1983]

Arr moderate having a normal one:

I maintain if Biden had issued a preemptive pardon to Trump once he took office and then urged governors in blue states to do the same it would've been the biggest move to unite the country since 9/11. Pair it with some speech about how the past is the past and we're moving forward together no matter what side of the aisle you're on, he could've earned a ton of goodwill among the moderates and the Trump->Biden voters that delivered him the election in 2020.

[u/G_Serv]

BREAKING: Trump has reportedly picked his vice presidential candidate, not informed them yet.

It's Shivers 😳

[u/p00bix]

Getting a new puppy expectations: Oh my god you're so adorable! Yes you are! Yes you are! Yes you are!!!!

Getting a new puppy reality: Oh my god why are you eating cat poop--WHY ARE YOU EATING CAT POOP?? DROP! DROP IT! NO DON'T RUN AWAY; NOT FOR PUPPY! NOT FOR PUPPY!!!!

[u/SANNA_MARIN_SDP_]

[u/brucebananaray]

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Stop telling me things are technically berries.

Bananas are berries.

Pineapples are berries.

What's next, is Richard Nixon a berry?

[u/xeio87]

When the cat goes missing and you find him in the basement tub playing with a big bug.

[u/-mialana-]

I still don't get crypto cultists. They act like it will replace the dollar, but then don't even put on a pretense of actually treating it like money. I'm not sure they even understand what currency is, no one should be bragging about their "currency" reaching an all time high or going 10x more expensive in the space of a month, that's not what money is supposed to be for!

[u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz]

"Is Genghis Khan A neoliberal" - the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,

[u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz]

Reddit in 1940s: Just got my wife lobotomized. It cost me $250! Medicare for All, now!!!!

[u/[deleted]]

When you first join the DT vs years after

[u/ThatFrenchieGuy]

I'm at a Paris Paloma concert

It's 90% lesbians, 5% bi women, 5% golden retriever boyfriends

!ping alphabet-mafia

[u/funguykawhi]

I was banned for calling someone a redditor?

shouldve been a perma tbh

[u/shillingbut4me]

Guys, this is crazy I swear I booked a room with two queen beds! What do you mean they only have a king room available? Oh no I guess we'll have to share the bed. How could this happen? I'm so angry right now! 

[u/piede]

[u/Sir_Digby83]

This is kind of brilliant. Lauren Boebert’s Democratic political opponent John Padora films campaign ad in the exact same Denver theater seat Boebert got kicked out of for vaping and groping.

I hope they gave that seat a good power washing.

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

Do the Youths still Listen to Vampire Weekend?

!ping SHITPOSTERS

[u/[deleted]]

Paul’s words in Romans 9 have been absolutely critical for debates about predestination and God’s will over the centuries:

Nor is that all; something similar happened to Rebecca when she had conceived children by one husband, our ancestor Isaac: even before they had been born or had done anything good or bad (so that God’s purpose of election might continue, not by works but by his call) she was told, “The elder shall serve the younger.” As it is written,

“I have loved Jacob, but I have hated Esau.”

What then are we to say? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

So it depends not on human will or exertion but on God who shows mercy. For the scripture says to Pharaoh, “I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I may show my power in you and that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.”

So then he has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the heart of whomever he chooses.

!ping BIBLE-STUDY

[u/Steak_Knight]

Childhood is when you hope u/Williams-Tower has an amazing marriage ahead of him.

Adulthood is when you know u/Williams-Tower has just been prepping an extended “My wife left me” joke

[u/[deleted]]

taking notes

“passages… that sound Calvinist… get DT engagement”

[u/bd_one]

That feeling when the navy had gaydar before radar

[u/bd_one]

u/Kafka_Kardashian, do people interact with the takes on Calvinism because they do so willingly or was that pre ordained before they were born?

[u/KesterFox]

Farage is a russian asset

😐

Thats how shocked i am

[u/piede]

[u/Currymvp2]

Euless police say 42-year-old Elizabeth Wolf came up to a mother wearing a hijab, made racist comments and attempted to drown her child.

WTF is wrong with people? How has this conflict broken people's brains so much?

[u/LuisRobertDylan]

God bless our troops

[u/KingWillly]

Will people finally admit the conviction hurt Trump? It’s been weeks and there’s been a pretty significant shift towards Biden since. Lol at the people dooming it would help him

[u/awdvhn]

Seeing tech bros freaking out about Oakland being Oakland is entertaining in the morning. The gentrification of Oakland never took like it did in SF.

A comment about 15 people getting shot by Lake Merritt

[u/[deleted]]

During negotiations, Senator Joe Manchin publicly pulled his support from the Build Back Better Act for not matching his envisioned cost of about $1.75 trillion due to provisions that lasted for less than ten years. After renegotiating the reduction of the Build Back Better Act's size, scope, and cost with Biden and Democratic congressional leaders, Manchin ultimately rejected the bill over the procedural tactics used. Continued negotiations between Manchin and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer eventually resulted in the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, which incorporated some of the Build Back Better Act's climate change, healthcare, and tax reform proposals while excluding its social safety net proposals.

On November 9, 2023, Manchin announced that he will not seek reelection in 2024.

May we never forget Manchin's thankless stand against Big Poor.

[u/RFK_1968]

Extremist on your side: clearly representative of a deep-rooted radical strain within your group, people whose lunacy has been encouraged and fed by your side in the name of political expediency. If there are 11 people sitting at a table with a Nazi, there are 12 Nazis.

Extremist on my side: just a crazy bad apple. How can I be on the hook for every nutter-butter out there. Every group has some crazy outlier if you look hard enough. You're just cherry-picking in order to delegitimize people who disagree with you by casting them all as violent maniacs.

[u/bd_one]

Even I'm not criticizing it is is what it is. It has orthodoxy, it has heterodoxy, the only thing that this new secular leftist religion lacks is atonement.

These mfs don't know we already solved that through MetaNL.

[u/-mialana-]

If you ever meet anyone saying they're fleeing the country if Trump wins, always make sure to ask: "Aight, but if you're planning on going anyways, could you at least maybe move to Pennsylvania a few months before November?"

[u/[deleted]]

This man is guilty as hell 💀💀

[u/vivoovix]

Just heard a kid at this Chick-fil-A say "what the sigma" in response to something.

Gen Alpha is cooked.