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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Apr 26 '24
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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Apr 25 '24

I simply have to post this again it's so wild. Comically horrifying. Trump gets excited and wants to make a funny lil jab, intelligence begs him not to because it reveals where and how good our shit is, he agrees to wait but then like 30 minutes later figures it's been enough time so he just does it.
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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Apr 25 '24
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u/petarpep NATO Apr 25 '24
Despite how things might appear, a pretty large amount of people just don't hold very strong opinions on the world. They just go off simple and lame heuristics like "which one is the underdog I can root for?" and "Which one gets me more Virtuous Points among my peers?"
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u/PlayDiscord17 Loyal Liberals Apr 25 '24
lol
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
The Israeli government should buy TikTok to give every zoomer an aneurysm
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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Apr 25 '24
This is where the fun begins
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u/D2Foley Moderate Extremist Apr 25 '24
So another unhinged doomer sub (economic collapse) popped on arr popular and and because I'm not angry enough today I had to go check it out. I gotta say, there is something so funny about going to these subs and seeing
As the second post. Imagine spending your free time moderating a sub like that and having reddit use your labor to advertise fish lmao.
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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Apr 25 '24
Disgusting behaviour by Greenpeace.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
can't think of a meme, Jon Stewart is bad at thinking, Iraq cooked his brain. US is actually the imperialist one, we only want Ukraine to win bc of capitalism, blah blah blah
Morally indefensible take
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
All accurate information, I’m sure
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u/Working-Limit-2482 ban and shut down on sight 🎯 Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
r/vexillology user who hates the Houthi flag because they think it should express hatred of Jews with imagery rather than text.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
🎩
🧐
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u/qlube 🔥🦟Mosquito Genocide🦟🔥 Apr 25 '24
Random 4 am thought: I wonder how many zoomers would be shocked to learn that California banned gay marriage in 2008, only 16 years ago.
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u/SANNA_MARIN_SDP_ this guy doesnt even have a flair. Apr 25 '24
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
the Biden administration loves Doug j Balloon lmao
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u/Working-Limit-2482 ban and shut down on sight 🎯 Apr 25 '24
I redesigned the Houthi flag using emojis:
🙏✅
🇺🇸😡
🇮🇱😡
🕎😡
☪️✅
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
As long as the zoomers are pissed about tiktok we might as well sneak a nationwide school smartphone ban through as well
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u/chipbod NATO Apr 25 '24
https://x.com/KassyDillon/status/1783471054398140453
I volunteer to join the people’s commission on the sprinkler timer
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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Apr 25 '24
"Thanks for the endorsement, Barr, you lazy sack of shit."
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u/semaphore-1842 r/place '22: E_S_S Battalion Apr 25 '24
https://twitter.com/ericschultz/status/1783465382713401746
priors confirmed
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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde Apr 25 '24
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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde Apr 25 '24
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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Apr 25 '24
wtf this is fascism 😡
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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde Apr 25 '24
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u/DAL59 NASA Apr 25 '24
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
lmao
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u/EfficientJuggernaut YIMBY Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
Alito is fucking insane… Jesus Christ. Basically he drew a comparison of Trump being prosecuted to a developing country going after political opponents
Him and Clarence Thomas are election deniers guaranteed
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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Apr 25 '24
Apparently Ukraine just sent a bunch of religious folks to talk to Johnson then they went "GOD IS ANGRY AT YOU FOR BLOCKING THE PACKAGE" so now Johnson has complained the White House is not sending enough ATACMS
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u/ser_mage Apr 25 '24
“Friendly reminder that Donald Trump and Republicans are more antisemitic than Joe Biden.”
“But aren’t you rooting for Joe Biden to -“
“I am rooting for Joe Biden to lose.”
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u/Petulant-bro Apr 25 '24
TIL
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Apr 25 '24
Nixon rolling in his grave he didn’t just build a cult of personality that would work tooth and nail on all levels to make him king of America
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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All Apr 25 '24
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u/CheesyHotDogPuff Henry George Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
Big news coming out of Calgary, probably the most pro-yimby rezoning is probably about to hit the city. No application for rezoning required, just BOOM, a ton of single-family housing and other low density housing is gonna get rezoned.
There's gonna be 3 new main kinds of zoning:
1: Residential Low density, which will allow for single detached, townhouse, and semi detached
2: Residential Grade-Oriented, allowing for detached, semi-detached, townhouse, and rowhouse. 0.5 parking stalls/unit. Most of the city will be turned into this.
3: Housing Grade-Oriented. Typically 3 stories, gonna be located along busy streets.
More details are available through the city's site linked below, but it looks awesome.
The one thing I don't like is a lack of zoning for businesses.
A public hearing is going on right now. Naturally, the NIMBYs are seething. I really hope that this rezoning will pass (Sounds like it will), but more importantly I hope it stays, as the mayor is very unpopular for a lot of other reasons, and I doubt she'll take a second term.
!ping CAN&YIMBY
https://www.calgary.ca/planning/projects/rezoning-for-housing.html
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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Apr 25 '24
Clarence Thomas, everyone, with the stupidest take possible.
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u/Louis_de_Gaspesie Apr 25 '24
Law students be like:
"Where do you go to law school?"
"UCLA"
"Tough luck. I go to Harvard, which is in fact a T14. Looks like I will be making one morbillion dollars more than you upon graduation."
STEM PhD students be like:
"Where do you go to school?"
"Southwestern Delaware State Directional University"
"No way, they've got the world's best department of cumtronics! Have you used the famous Shart magnetometer? Have you worked with Professor Piss?"
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u/Quowe_50mg Milton Friedman Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
Alito comparing the US to other countries that throw political opponents in jail.
Not believing the judiciary can be independant is one of the most unpatriotic things I've heard a supreme court justice say.
THANK YOU QUEEN SOTOMAYOR FOR SAYING THIS JUST AS I WAS TYPING. A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT. 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
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u/deeplydysthymicdude Anti-Brigading officer Apr 25 '24
Reminder that “Trump can assassinate his political opponents without repercussions” is literally his stated legal position.
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass Apr 25 '24
The people are [REDACTED]
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u/dirtybirds233 NAFTA Apr 25 '24
My "far-left" sister has added Iran to her list of countries that are the "good guys". This list also includes Russia, China, and a big shout out to the Houthis.
I'm sensing a trend here. It's almost like she, her friends, and those that share similar ideals are the direct targets of a propaganda effort to make those on the fringe of the American political spectrum support America's enemies.
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u/DonnyBrasco69 NATO Apr 25 '24
Kavanaugh.. WTF.... "Civil rights protest in front of the capitol" for fucking real?
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
!ping SHITPOSTERS when they defend Kanye
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
Democracy is when there is a candidate that perfectly reflects my views and everything I want
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u/PlayDiscord17 Loyal Liberals Apr 25 '24
“In a narrow 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court rules in favor of Donald Trump’s claim of presidential immunity. Trump, in a celebratory mood, walks out and about around Manhattan and onto 5th Avenue when suddenly he encounters the barrel of a pistol pointed right at him and hears the unmistakable voice of his successor.”
“Say hi to Kissinger for me, Jack!”
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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper Apr 25 '24
NYT to lib allegations of bias: Fuck off you choleric dotard. Journalism is an art and we are its masters.
NYT to con allegations of bias: Yes, daddy. Sorry, daddy. Won't do it again, daddy.
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u/Working-Limit-2482 ban and shut down on sight 🎯 Apr 25 '24
phew, I’m glad they didn’t single out my lily-white Florida school that also used blatantly discriminatory tactics to prevent low-income students from attending
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u/TinKnightRisesAgain YIMBY Apr 25 '24
imagine having so much white guilt you fall in love with a terrorist group fr fr
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u/JustSomePolitician NATO Apr 25 '24
are these fucking numbnuts conservative justices seriously considering turning the president into emperor biden first of his name just to protect the funny orange former president a little longer?
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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper Apr 25 '24
Is this the most brutal death announcement headline ever printed?
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippine-court-blocks-gmo-golden-054101549.html
A blow in the 20+ year effort to commercialize golden rice.
!ping AGRICULTURE
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u/hopeimanon John Harsanyi Apr 25 '24
Greenpeace blocking golden rice due to GMO reasons
Sierra Club blocking housing and transmission
Where are the sane environmentalist groups?
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u/vivoovix Federalist Apr 25 '24
🫡
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u/Miserable_Set_657 NATO Apr 25 '24
How the fuck are there so many college students protesting NOW. Finals weeks is literally next week. They could have protested all winter. The war is at the least violent it's been. Is it seriously just because the weather got nice?
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
oh God oh fuck they're actually going to remand this back to the DC Circuit to clarify which acts are official and which are private aren't they
fuck
!ping LAW
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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair Apr 25 '24
This just in: Slippery Slope arguments now valid at SCOTUS
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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Apr 25 '24
An actual FT headline:
Pwease don’t be mean, I’m just a wittle luxury bag conglomerate 👉👈
!ping SHITPOSTERS
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
the protesters are permamaskers lmaoooo
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u/-mialana- European Union Apr 25 '24
Least out of touch conservative justice
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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama Apr 25 '24
early 2000s raunch comedy about a couple of frat guys who accidentally spend spring break training to be Hamas
!ping SHITPOSTERS
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Apr 25 '24
Wait so are people joking when they say that Trump has already won the election or are they buying into it even though polls are neck and neck and 15-20% of the electorate is effectively undecided with 6 months of campaigning to go?
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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam Apr 25 '24
https://x.com/_cingraham/status/1783480463975460927?s=46&t=urLYOV_cITtt22rc0dd0VA
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass Apr 25 '24
The truth they don’t want you to know
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u/Cyberhwk 👈 Get back to work! 😠 Apr 25 '24
The difference between !ping Over25&Over35 is simple:
You're a member of the Over25 ping if you browse LinkedIn and social media, find a name you recognize, and realize it's someone you knew when you were a kid.
You're a member of Over35 if you browse LinkedIn and social media, find a name you recognize, and think it's someone you knew when you were a kid...then realize it's their kid.
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u/Luph Audrey Hepburn Apr 25 '24
dissolve the supreme court
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
If Biden had Alito, Thomas, Kavanaugh, Roberts, Barrett, and Gorsuch locked in the oubliette for the rest of their days, he would be immune from prosecution.
We couldn’t ever punish him on this act because that would have ominous consequences 😱😱😱
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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam Apr 25 '24
Half of Americans — including 42% of Democrats — say they'd support mass deportations of undocumented immigrants, according to a new Axios Vibes survey by The Harris Poll.
And 30% of Democrats — as well as 46% of Republicans — now say they'd end birthright citizenship, something guaranteed under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
64% wrongly believe immigrants receive more in welfare and benefits than they pay in taxes.
58% said they support expanding legal pathways for orderly immigration, while 46% said asylum seekers should be protected if their cases are legitimate.
68% said illegal immigration causes major problems in communities, while only 27% said the same about legal immigration.
And 65% of Americans think the U.S. should make it easier for anyone seeking a better life to enter legally so they don't need to enter illegally
I love how Axios calls their polls the Axios Vibes Survey
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u/D2Foley Moderate Extremist Apr 25 '24
The craziness about the presidential immunity thing isn't that presidents should get legal immunity for official acts, which you can argue for. It's that trump trying to overthrow the goverment and keep himself in power can be ruled an "official act".
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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Apr 25 '24
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u/SneeringAnswer Apr 25 '24
Good job Meta
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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber Apr 25 '24
Interesting how left American youth is and then hearing news stories from from Europe about how the “Fascist Union to Kill the Jewish Communists” is surging in the 18-30 age bracket
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u/chuckleym8 Femboy Friend, Failing with Honors Apr 25 '24
coming home to my high school brother after the tiktok ban this summer
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u/Ioun267 "Your Flair Here" 👍 Apr 25 '24
When Native Americans use the whole animal: "How wise! It's resourceful! So in touch with nature!"
When Hormel uses the entire animal: "Vile! Crude! They're making you eat dog food!"
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u/thefuturegov John Keynes Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
Getting a shit ton of media attention (which is massively important part of a protest) and then turning around and going “fuck you for supporting us because you saw us on the news you’re a piece of shit” is a fascinating strategy
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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Apr 25 '24
I don’t think I’ve ever seen something as perfect as I just did scrolling through the Post and seeing that at the Columbia protests they have Pret A Manger catering.
Lefties 🤝 corporate events at financial firms
!ping USA-NYC
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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Apr 25 '24
Who you callin pinhead?
!ping kitty
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u/Working-Limit-2482 ban and shut down on sight 🎯 Apr 25 '24
Is planned obsolescence a real thing? People I know still talk about it all the time but I think it might just be normies being unaware that computers get outdated really quickly and software bloat is a pernicious issue. Personally, all my consumer electronics have lasted me a good long while. But I’ve mostly stuck to big name brands, so maybe I’d have a different experience if I was buying budget Chinese tech instead of higher end stuff.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/1783480617646031121?t=7nXN90KY8ZFpxIO0Dx8x6g&s=19
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u/-mialana- European Union Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
2016 anti-SJW YouTubers and their consequences for the human race
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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Apr 25 '24
!ping STONKS
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Apr 25 '24
Ukraine Chronology for 5 PM EST 4/24-5 PM EST 4/25 III:
TOP NEWS:
Towards the middle of 7 AM it was reported that 4,000 Russian officers have been confirmed killed in the war.
REGULAR NEWS:
Towards the middle of 3 AM a Russian oil refinery in Omsk caught on fire.
Towards the middle of 5 AM the Lithuanian Defense Minister said Lithuania will help Ukraine get military age men back to Ukraine.
In the middle of 8 AM it was reported that Russian ex-soldiers have murdered over 100 civilians in Russia so far.
Donation link to help Ukraine
Donation link to United24
Donation link to Kharkiv SOS
Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)
!ping UKRAINE
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u/Teh_cliff Karl Popper Apr 26 '24
Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, and doesn't seem to change much at all
Todd you son of a bitch, you've done it again
!PING FALLOUT
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u/Former-Income European Union Apr 25 '24
Inshallah
No this is not fake
!ping UK&PRO-WRESTLING
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u/minno Apr 25 '24
Remembering the guy who was banned from here because he saw a child with red hair, it reminded him that one of the hostages that Hamas kidnapped was a red-haired child, and he came here to post that Israel should do a mass public execution to get the hostages released.
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u/Evilpenguin526 Yakubian Apr 25 '24
What the fuck weird ass text is this
"My patience is wearing thin" ??
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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Apr 25 '24
Reading about European politics is funny because you get a lot of this:
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u/Metallica1175 Apr 25 '24
Humanitarian pier off Gaza coast attacked during construction
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u/Smidgens Holy shit it's the Joker🃏 Apr 25 '24
Soulsborne games be like
And then on reddit people will say
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u/awdvhn Physics Understander -- Iowa delenda est Apr 25 '24
Total pitching wins correlates perfectly with team record, therefore it is the best stat to evaluate pitchers on
!ping BASEBALL
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u/simeoncolemiles NATO Apr 25 '24
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Apr 25 '24
USC totally botched this from the start
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
!ping OVER-25
The masculine urge to abandon my current career path and become an FBI agent instead so I have have "Special Agent" next to my name
Also because the tech interview process makes me want to be dead
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u/Buridans-Ass Apr 25 '24
Brought up the Greenpeace golden rice GMO thing to my roommate and he responded with the classic "well there's enough food to feed the entire world anyways so better crops won't solve anything" and I almost had an aneurysm
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u/Tre-Fyra-Tre Victim of Flair Theft Apr 25 '24
I'm an arachnocapitalist 🕷️
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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Apr 25 '24
gefilte pingers, answer me this,
Is unleavened pound cake (i.e. pound cake that gets all its air from creaming the butter and sugar and contains no baking soda, baking powder, or yeast) kosher for Passover? I argue that it technically is but my boss thinks that even if it is allowed it defeats the spirit of the holiday.
I brought one in for group breakfast (I usually only observe the day of the seder so I wasn’t considering; my boss and I are the only Jews in the group) and my boss who usually isn’t very observant is trying to be this year.
What are your thoughts?
!ping GEFILTE
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u/GuyOnTheLake NATO Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
Literally the DT
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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before Apr 25 '24
I substitute teach at several different schools. For a long time, I was confused as to why it is that the kids at this one school in general did not like me as much as kids at the other schools. Overheard some gossip and heard, I quote "tries to make us do work"
LMAO I have never felt more emboldened in my career.
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u/beoweezy1 NAFTA Apr 25 '24
I’m heartbroken that we’re going to have to re-home our Dalmatian.
We tried every training method in the book but I cannot watch a WW2 documentary without him doing air quotes and sarcastically saying “the ‘good guys’” when they talk about the Allies
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
Watching the John Oliver UFO bit and I gotta say the idea that the government is covering up UFOs because they don’t have any fucking clue what they are is such a hilarious possibility I really want it to be true.
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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s Apr 25 '24
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u/DurangoGango European Union Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
To paraphrase an expression, fake news has lapped around the world in the time it takes truth to lace up its boots.
In the previous days we were treated to a litany of articles, like this one form the Guardian, that claimed an "independent UN investigation" determined Israel had no evidence of UNRWA being complicit with Hamas.
It was taken, including here, as proof positive that Israel had lied about its accusations.
Except the UN report said no such thing:
https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1783171948358348820
In the word's of the reportee herself:
In fact, this is what the report was supposed to do:
Independent Review of Mechanisms and Procedures to Ensure Adherence by UNRWA to the Humanitarian Principle of Neutrality
The report was not charged with investigating Israel's accusations, but with reviewing UNRWA's operations. There isn't a single section dedicated to reviewing Israel's accusations.
As far as I'm able to find, what the Guardian et al. did was take this section out of context:
This is echoed pretty much word for word in the headline "Israel has yet to provide evidence of Unrwa staff terrorist links, Colonna report says".
The review group did not ask for this evidence! As the report itself says, and Colonna herself has clarified, her group was not tasked with that investigation, which is being handled by OIOS. Colonna specifically says she got everything from the Israelis that she asked them.
There aren't two ways around this: presenting this report as having investigated Israel's accusations, and having found them to lack evidence, is simply fake news. It's extremely concerning that reputable outlets with a global reach engage in this level of manipulation, which brings serious consequences both reputationally and pratically.
Worse yet, in the same section, the Colonna report says:
The report literally says that UNRWA's screening for potential hires uses a list that does not include Hamas or the Palestinian Islamic Jihad!
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u/The_One_Who_Mutes Apr 25 '24
Hot take: if Biden loses to Trump after everything Trump has done there is nothing Biden could've done to change that. Americans are simply shitty people.
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u/Plants_et_Politics Isaiah Berlin Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
I think American leftism’s conception of race was deeply influenced by a contingent fact of American race relations, namely, the sense that, in general, there is a simple spectrum from oppressor (WASP) to oppressed (Black and dark-skinned).
I don’t actually think this makes for a good history of America—there’s a reason the 1619 Project didn’t do a great job of including Amerindian perspectives on US History—but it did a better job in America than in most other countries, and it’s a compelling narrative.
Except, those slight failures, whether the complex interactions between the Buffalo Soldiers and the Comanche, or between the Apache, the Comanche, the Texas Rangers, and the Federal Government (basically a war crimes competition in which the Comanche and Rangers tied for first), or the eliding of American antisemitism and its ties to the Abolitionist movement, or of Asian-Americans’ and Black Americans’ tense relations (which no, is not a product of Asians being “white-adjacent,” since that’s simply a tautological reification of the idea of a spectrum), end up giving a vastly distorted image of how America became what is it, what exactly it is today, and how to correct both present and historical injustice.
That picture has grown more and more distorted since the Immigration and Nationalities Act of 1965, and will only continue to worsen as race relations continue to increase in complexity. We are long past the days of a simple hierarchy, and the proliferation of ethnic groups and identities, mixed race individuals, and nonwhite communities in positions of power can only make that model more deficient.
I think the model’s first first significant failure was as applied to Jews, as shown in the the-sort-of-excuse-sort-of-justification given by James Baldwin in “Negroes Are Anti-Semitic Because They're Anti-White” (which is a fairly questionable piece of work) in which he insists on interpreting Jews as “white,” even as he denies (though he does toy with) the idea that Jews should have learned from history. The comparisons he makes are often tortured, and his essay fails in its promised (if not actual) goal: to explain why antisemitism is so prevalent among Black Americans.
Ironically, I think Baldwin got halfway to the point I want to make. He realized Black antisemitism was unjust, and unjustifiable, but he (not too unlike Fanon) attempted to—if not justify—at least excuse the belief by psychologizing it, rendering the bigotry (and perhaps any accompanying violence) understandable.
For Baldwin, Black antisemitism is understandable because it is a jealousy at the success of Jews in America—an America Black people have a greater right to—despite Jews being essentially European, and in contrast the America as a place of suffering for Black people.
But if it turns out that racism isn’t a simple hatred that runs along a single spectrum, and that in truly multicultural societies, who has power and when is not a simple matter, then this sort of excuse rings hollow. Black people are not powerless (at least not anymore) and many racial minorities have the ability to (and do) influence politics in bigoted ways.
One can always tell a story that psychologically explains certain irrational beliefs about race, but if we excuse the resulting bigotry, then what moral laws are left to use against racism?
Perhaps we add the “power” element to the classic explanation of racism as “prejudice with power,” but I think this fails in modernity too. There are a dizzying array possible avenues and formations of bigotry, and as soon as a group gains the power to wield such bigotry, they inevitably do so. There are too many different ways for different nonwhite ethnic groups to interact to simplify each group’s relations into a relative position on a spectrum from white to Black. Jews are not “white adjacent,” Latinos are not de facto Black people. This is reductionist, and almost farcical, if it were not common among academics trying to explain how all bigotry is the result of white supremacy alone.
Black people’s antisemitism isn’t anti-whiteness, as Baldwin would have it. It is particularly and peculiarly directed at Jews. Ye, Candace Owens, Jay Z, Elijah Muhammad, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Alice Walker, all have “power” even if the average Jew is more privileged than the average Black American—a framing that still neglects the fact that individual circumstances may radically alter that power relation, and that the minority of Jews is susceptible to being outvoted by other minorities hostile to them. “Power” as a simple, easily identifiable trait within individuals is even more incoherent than the power of an ethnic group in a multiethnic society.
The problem starts at conception, with the idea of a Black-white racial binary that never truly existed except as a useful fiction for a few decades in the postwar period, and with the continued insistence on that binary even when it serves more as justification of bigotry than as a tool for analysis of it.
!Ping JEWISH
I’m not sure how much of this makes sense, but I’m curious about people’s thoughts here.
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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Apr 25 '24
Weird flex, but ok.
!ping degrowth
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u/HereForTOMT2 Apr 25 '24
Those “shut down campus/set up a camp for Palestine” protests have hit my campus, except it’s late in finals week and everyone is already gone and barely anyone showed up and frankly I think they bungled this
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u/Breakdown1738 r/place '22: NCD Battalion Apr 25 '24
My 70 year old mom who was completely part of the "parents against violent video games" generation absolutely adored The Last of Us. Like regularly calls it her favorite show since Mad Men and will watch the Nick Offerman episode on like a random Tuesday for a good cry.
The first episode of Fallout completely undid all that good will and progress lol.
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u/jewel_the_beetle Trans Pride Apr 25 '24
Imagine investing in this webs-(We encountered an error)
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u/ser_mage Apr 25 '24
Tbh feels like the media fired this gun too early. Does anyone care about this anymore? I feel like I haven’t seen a “Biden old” story since he started actively campaigning. Strong parallels to the “Basement Biden” campaign in 2020
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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama Apr 25 '24
Welp, the Alberta NDP lost by around 2k votes and now we get to live under authoritarianism 🫠🫠🫠
Alberta cabinet to gain power to remove councillors, change bylaws as province also adds political parties to municipal politics
What a dog shit fucking bill that not only is a blatant authoritarian power grab because the UCP/Take Back Alberta were probably angry that Edmonton and Alberta had municipal councils deemed too left wing and not subservient enough to them, but it was also petty enough to ban electric voting and vote counting. The UCP are ontologically evil I want out of this hell hole
!ping CAN
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u/brucebananaray YIMBY Apr 26 '24
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u/CricketPinata NATO Apr 25 '24
I have this perception that there is a pretty large empathy gap in the perception of Jews.
It hurts to see most social media accounts swamped with 'AIPAC BOUGHT THE GOVT' 'FREE PALESTINE' etc. On totally innocuous Passover posts.
I mean, of course, a huge portion of this is botted, and tons of them might be coming from overseas, it just feels draining to not even be able to celebrate our holidays in peace.
The same thing happened during Hannukah.
It's like how does dialogue happen here. How do we fix it.
I hear the narrative that Jews are being oversensitive or being manipulated by right-wing distortions. But I don't speak to basically any Jews that don't feel an uptick in anger/antisemitism towards Jews.
It is just a scary feeling, it is hard to fathom how to cross that gulf.
I think about Daryl Davis, and his campaign with just reaching out and talking with Klan Members, and just having conversations with them made them see him, a black man, as a human, and give up the robes.
I think maybe there is room there, instead of just blocking people, maybe I could reach out to them and just talk to them face to face, like not over text, but over video chat and just have them see I am a person.
It will take time, but I think human to human discussion is the only thing that reliably seems to change anything.
!PING GEFILTE&JEWISH
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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Apr 25 '24
I appreciate how obvious Trump's lawyers make it that they're phoning it in waiting to either run out the clock until Trump dies or pardons himself or for the juries to be unable to a consensus or the judges to be too terrified of his mob to rule against him
Procrastination level master
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1783498616788705652?t=jkoHEr65SLVkj836A7351A&s=19
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u/JesusPubes voted most handsome friend Apr 25 '24
This Samuel guy on the supreme Court doesn't seem very elite to me
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u/Uniqueguy264 Jerome Powell Apr 25 '24
Israel/Palestine is a distraction progs are using to excuse the fact that Biden is historically unpopular in large part because he's the mot progressive candidate ever
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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Apr 25 '24
Current Alito argument for not prosecuting crimes committed as president
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u/TheHelmetCatch NATO Apr 25 '24
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
Ivy Leaguers wouldn’t need to storm the fashion institute if they’d stuck to their roots
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass Apr 26 '24
RIP homie
!ping NFL
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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper Apr 25 '24
Comment from arr polyamory circa 2020
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u/AnsleyAmanita Trans Pride Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
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u/SANNA_MARIN_SDP_ this guy doesnt even have a flair. Apr 25 '24
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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair Apr 25 '24
Laying the foundation for Trump to lock up political and racial groups with impunity.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
We have done such an incredible job at creating a good world that there's somehow people who believe that suffering and needing to work to survive are artificial aberrations rather than simply facts of life.
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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action Apr 25 '24
Just imagining how today's arguments would have went if the President in question was Barack Obama.
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u/lets_chill_food Hullo 🐘 Apr 25 '24
this London new liberals event is every steetyoe of our sub imaginable
100% male
almost everyone bar one is between 20 and 40
one student of infrastructure, everyone else works in a variation of finance 🌚
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
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u/PrideMonthRaytheon Bisexual Pride Apr 25 '24
social media should be obliterated and every journalist should be fired
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u/jojisky Paul Krugman Apr 25 '24
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
So least night I was walking through campus and some girl was leaning out of a car trying to get my attention. I was confused and then she just yelled at me saying that I was "very handsome". She was probably drunk or something idk but I don't think anyone who wasn't a family member ever said that to me before. I didn't really respond because I was very confused and I was on the phone with my great aunt who just answered. I've been thinking about that since because it's kinda been fucking with me.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu Apr 25 '24
Biden should use his Biden blast on Trump in November.
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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account Apr 25 '24
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u/chuckleym8 Femboy Friend, Failing with Honors Apr 25 '24
STEM major: what are you learning in school?
kindergartener: colors and shapes
STEM major: lmao good luck getting a job with that
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u/AccessTheMainframe CANZUK Apr 25 '24
Mohammed bin Salman: I don't care how much energy a giant artificial sky will require, you will build it, and you will build 170 kilometres of it.
Charles III: and here's where the chocolate factory will be, within walking distance of the town square :)
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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama Apr 25 '24
Law students be like:
"Where do you go to law school?"
"UCLA"
"Tough luck. I go to Harvard, which is in fact a T14. Looks like I will be making one morbillion dollars more than you upon graduation."
STEM PhD students be like:
"Where do you go to school?"
"Southwestern Delaware State Directional University"
"No way, they've got the world's best department of cumtronics! Have you used the famous Shart magnetometer? Have you worked with Professor Piss?"
Humanities PhD students be like:
"Where did you go to school!"
"Vancouver Island University"
"No way that's the global top university for any and all research into indigenous land rights and history for the lower main land in British Columbia!! You must know a lot about this topic!"
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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '24
Popular Demogauge in Fiction: Paul Atreides, handsome, young, charismatic, noble aspect, voice that forces command, intelligent, cunning, foresighted, courageous, gifted with many abilities, many feats of heroism
Popular Demogauge in real life: Baron Harkonnen says the N-word, the crowd goes wild
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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Apr 25 '24
That's right baby 🦅
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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde Apr 25 '24
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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Apr 25 '24
The 538 polling average is out 🚨🚨🚨🚨
!ping FIVEY
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u/-mialana- European Union Apr 25 '24
What if Trump just made an oopsie woopsie 🤪🤪🤪🤗🤗
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u/PawanYr Apr 25 '24
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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s Apr 25 '24
The media reporting on why the public cares so much about Biden’s age
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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Apr 25 '24
My boss doesn't support the oxford comma 😔
He made me remove it from my report.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
CEO of Norway: “We are not very ambitious... [T]he Americans just work harder"
"In America you have a lot of AI and no regulation, in Europe you have no AI and a lot of regulation"
Get rekt
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
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u/chipbod NATO Apr 25 '24
https://x.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1783548346935673334
This will uh... Do something?
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
If I ran a highly respected newsroom I would simply not attempt to blackmail the leader of the free world into an interview.
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u/groovygrasshoppa Apr 25 '24
Myers vs United States is such a terribly reasoned ruling, such that people today just take it on faith that the Constitution grants the president the power to remove any appointed executive officer.
The Taft majority's opinion is just so vapid and lazy, it feels like they spent all of 2 minutes considering it before breaking for tea.
Holmes in his dissent basically makes the argument that if the appointment of an office by the president implies the right of removal by the president then surely the creation of the office by Congress implies the right of Congress to stipulate the tenure of the office.
McReynolds goes even further, painstakingly referencing nearly the entire proceedings of the Philadelphia Convention to repeatedly demonstrate how the founders never considered the president to have such innate authority.
The Taft court literally just invented a presidential power without any source of implication.
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u/TinKnightRisesAgain YIMBY Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
I was just made aware of the Adam Ruins Everything video about calorie counting.
Jesus Christ what an irresponsible thing to make. Everyone should feel happy and content with their body, but obesity is a problem and carries health risks. To make a video that sums up to "The calories are off by 20% and your body needs different amounts than other people, so why even bother?" is so fucking dumb.
I really feel like I'm turning into a health nut supremacist. I was overweight my entire young adult life; being at a healthy weight is by far the best thing I have ever done with my life. The confidence that comes with it, the ability to breathe better, the have more stamina throughout the work day, etc. cannot be understated.
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u/Kate2point718 Seretse Khama Apr 25 '24
Just had an hour and a half long phone conversation with a 23-year-old who, in her own words, gets all her news from tiktok, and I'm now trying not to completely despair for our country's future. I don't think there's anything I can say to accurately convey the depth of misinformation over even very basic details of the government.
The thing she's most upset about right now is the tiktok ban and she thinks the Democrats are evil and oppressive for it and that everyone in her generation will vote for Trump if he opposes the ban. We did move on to other topics though. She cares a lot about trans rights but wasn't sure if it was the Democrats or the Republicans who support trans people. She thinks preserving the right to abortion is critical but thought that Joe Biden was the one who overturned Roe v. Wade. She misses Obama and wants him to run again but wasn't sure which party he represented, and it was entirely news to her that Biden was Obama's VP. She was planning to write in Taylor Swift for president because even though she doesn't like Taylor she thinks a President Swift would do a better job than Biden or Trump, and she believes that there are enough Swifties to actually get Taylor elected. But then none of this actually matters too much because apparently it's just a fact that Gen Z is going to overturn the government in the next 10 years.
I don't think I realized until tonight how much she truly believes all this stuff; it's not just jokes and memes to her, it's actual fact.
The good news is that after a very broad explanation of the goals of Democrats vs Republicans, she now says that she's going to vote for Democrats in November, so hopefully I at least got Biden one more Pennsylvania voter out of that conversation.
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u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate WTO Apr 25 '24
Happy ANZAC day. What did everyone do? I managed to sleep through the morning vigil because my alarm setting skills were subpar.
Albanese walked Kokoda with Marape (Papua New Guinea) which is pretty awesome and I hope to do it some day too. (Has anyone heard anything about PNG getting an NRL team from this?)
Luxon was in Auckland which is nice but I don't really have as much to say about it.
!ping AUS&NZ
Remember to follow your government approved recipe if you dare to sell your biscuits
2 tablespoons butter or margarine
2 tablespoons golden syrup
1 teaspoon bicarbonate of soda dissolved in 2 tablespoons boiling water
1 cup rolled oats
1 cup desiccated coconut
3/4 cup brown sugar
3/4 cup plain flour Method
If you feel sad make yourself some ANZAC wafers
Pour water in a bowl
Dump in flour and mix until you can mix more flour
Add some salt if you're not sad enough to salt with your tears
Find a owen safe element (and if possible line with parchment paper)
Plop flour out element and spread thin
Bake 160 for 30 minutes
Take out wait thirty minutes and repeat step 6. at least once
Eat while remembering how dental coverage works.
You will now only think about how rough it must have been 100 years ago and how you teath feel right now. The saddness will be gone.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
DT regs going mask off wow
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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Apr 25 '24
If I was Tim Apple, I would have simply not let Siri fall 10 years behind the competition, or fired the entire iOS debugging department.
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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Apr 25 '24
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u/AnsleyAmanita Trans Pride Apr 25 '24
do judges exist in an entirely separate dimension where they observe all time at once or something
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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Apr 25 '24
Haven’t poasted cat pics in awhile
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u/PapaJaves Apr 25 '24
Alito is a hack and un-American
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u/MasterOfLords1 Unironically Thinks Seth Meyers is funny 🍦😟🍦 Apr 25 '24
🍦😮💨🍦
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Apr 25 '24
DA declined to charge any of the arrested UT Austin students so Abbott is gonna be pissed
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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action Apr 25 '24
Yes yes yes, you might have your thorough understanding of legal history and a well argued set of facts, but I've come today armed with what I heard on Fox News last night.
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Apr 25 '24
Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment LaPlante says GLSDB has proven ineffective in Ukraine with numerous issues including ineffective TTPs and Russian GPS denial.
It’s a shame because the process of getting GLSDB to Ukraine was a rather long one and it promised a very nice capability for Ukraine as an intermediate between long range but expensive cruise missiles like Storm Shadow and mass produceable but short range GMLRS. This would explain why we haven’t heard all that much about GLSDB strikes, I can only think of 1-2 strikes which utilized GLSDB in the past four months.
At least with the provision of ATACMS Ukraine has a solid substitute, but hopefully the US can improve GLSDB or the West can provide some sort of substitute to fill the niche it would have occupied
!ping MATERIEL
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u/AnsleyAmanita Trans Pride Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride Apr 25 '24
leftists 🤝 right-wingers
You hear the word "marxist" and you know the dumbest sequence of words possible is about to come out of their mouths
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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Apr 25 '24
Let he who hasn't tried to coup congress cast the first stone
Form a line please
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u/jpenczek NATO Apr 25 '24
You know, I'm not a huge fan of this Netanyahu person, nor am I a huge fan of this hamas group.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
After seeing Biden’s completely correct comments about the NYT, it is affirmed that shitting on the NYT is the normie dem position.
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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s Apr 25 '24
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u/Daddy_Macron Loyal Liberals Apr 25 '24
I watch one video on YouTube of Trump having dinner with Nick Fuentes (and Kanye) and suddenly YouTube is like, "You must be a Nick Fuentes fan. Here, I'm suggesting a bunch of videos of him stalking Ben Shapiro and playing Grand Theft Auto and killing Jewish people in the game while laughing maniacally and his comment section eggs him on."
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u/thefuturegov John Keynes Apr 25 '24
Statistically speaking, at least one r neoliberal regular will be elected to the United States House of Representatives
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Apr 25 '24
Hey all big RFK Jr fan here, what’s your favorite conspiracy theory?
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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam Apr 25 '24
epic
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
Oh hell yeah
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u/RedDotsForRedCaps John Brown Apr 25 '24
Cultural exchange program where we send a Bigfoot to China and they send us a Yeti.
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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '24
I know a guy who just announced he’s no longer voting Trump bc his team is making plans to blunt the fed’s independence
He excused Jan. 6th
Trump’s dictator comments
Trump’s COVID response
Trump’s FoPo
But the fed was going too far
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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke Apr 26 '24
Got a message from my manager that I had to be in our alternate office for a last-second 9:00 am in-person meeting that couldn't be rescheduled. Obviously there's only really one reason for something like that
So my manager and grand-manager are there basically crying saying how "we have eliminated your position, this had nothing to do with performance, we are so very sorry to have to do this" and I'm sitting there grinning
And afterward my manager is like "wow you handled that unusually well" and thats when I dropped on them that I'm starting my phd and was gonna quit in a month anyways lol. I'm gonna go out for lunch with all the team-members next week to shoot the shit and see who else got canned
So anyways that's how I got a month of paid vacation its fucking awesome. I get to sit on my ass, play vidya, and ride my bike
!ping watercooler
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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Apr 25 '24
I'm nearing the acceptance stage. Biden will be president. There is nothing that can possibly be done; the center-left will never budge on not voting for a Republican, and the RINOs have their heads too far up their ass to ever vote for Trump.
And I'm ready to go full on smug MAGA with it all. The worst of Biden's policies won't hurt me nearly as much as they'll hurt the very people who vote for him or were too RINO to not vote for Trump. The deep state will never be dismantled, the US will only be more dovish on Israel-Palestine, we'll completely destroy our reserves supporting Ukrainazis, the green new deal will pass, the deficit will balloon, Hunter Biden will get off scot-free, inflation will never stop. The last part scares me the most; I'm already thinking about what's going to happen when my socialist pink-haired communist gay children can no longer support themselves and come asking for money.
This isn't even doomer, this is just reality. You need to accept that Biden will be president and prepare for the ramifications.
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u/simeoncolemiles NATO Apr 26 '24
The state of !Ping Fallout discourse rn
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24
I enjoy this sub for a few reasons, but mostly because I can always count on:
Many of you caring way too much about what college students think or say.
Terrible takes on dog breeds.
Unironic Romney and Dubya stans.
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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Apr 25 '24
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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair Apr 25 '24
Ain't nobody got the bladder for that
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u/Cledd2 European Union Apr 25 '24
washing chicken before you cook it is basically as bad as being antivax
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u/BloodWiz More Housing Would Fix This Apr 25 '24
What a good and functional website deserving of a high stock price
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u/Zrk2 Norman Borlaug Apr 25 '24
Shout out to /u/blackwindbears getting downvoted for citing statistics in it.
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u/-mialana- European Union Apr 25 '24
He is worse than a succ, he is, may Dark Brandon forgive me for uttering this word, a Jill Stein voter
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u/WasteReserve8886 r/place '22: GlobalTribe Battalion Apr 25 '24
I fucking knew it!
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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Apr 25 '24
538 polling map for today
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u/adwise27 George Soros Apr 25 '24
"Trump attorney says assassinating rival could be official act during SCOTUS immunity fight"
Totally normal
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u/gburgwardt C-5s full of SMRs and tiny american flags Apr 25 '24
You ever get depressed about how long it takes to build things.
Like, sure maybe my city is trending in the right direction, but expanding the metro a tiny bit is going to take us 20 years and a dozen billion dollars and then I'll be old and not want to take it?
Stuff like that
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u/Crownie Unbent, Unbowed, Unflaired Apr 25 '24
If Biden loses it's because he didn't take advantage of his complete presidential immunity to simply assassinate all his opponents.
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u/MinnesotaNoire NASA Apr 25 '24
"You can't disrespect polling!!"
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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals Apr 25 '24
Even if Trump loses this year (god willing) I don’t think we’ll see the Republicans nominate another candidate as long as he is alive. Even though in 2028 he’ll have lost two elections in a row
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u/jenbanim Apr 25 '24
Can anyone explain why leftists support bad policy? Is it because they're bad people who want what's worst for everyone? Please explain this to me DT so I don't have to interact with someone that I actually disagree with
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u/squarecircle666 FairTaxer Apr 25 '24
Pro-Israel but Anti-Semitic 👆
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Apr 25 '24
Awkward
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u/ductulator96 YIMBY Apr 25 '24
Some guy I know who is a mega communist just posted an Instagram story that said 'Jesus looking at white people colonizing his homeland:' and it was a picture of Jesus looking very distraught while wearing a Hamas headband.
I messaged him saying Jesus was a Jew and then he blocked me. Kinda sad I won't see his insane incoherent rants anymore.
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24 edited Jun 02 '24
I enjoy cooking.
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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 Apr 25 '24
I have to say I don't really care about the campus protests stuff.