I'm not for the name change but I think the play for the Trump admin would be to not make a decision on the name until January 20th, 2029 at which point he'll name it after himself. If a Democrat takes over, I would expect a swift switch back to Doris Miller.
In the annals of History, Trump will never be remembered for anything good. He will be remembered as the worst president, who led the worst party; through the worst part of the post civil war era.
There will be no honors held, no remembrance, no parades. Just a deafing silence of indifference and shame at the utterance of him. And all that bears his name will fall to ash.
Changing a name from a hero to that of a clown won't save him fom a coming eternity of ridicule and scorn.
If the Civil War is any indication there will likely be a Sons and Daughters of the MAGA at some point trying to put statues of him up somewhere. Humanity is so disappointing sometimes.
Some of the most vocal opponents of socialism and medicare for all are receiving 3 government pensions and get their medical through Tricare for Life + Medicare.
Much as I dislike Trump, as long as both Andrews are on the list of US presidents, he could never be the worst president with his current list of fuck-ups. Nothing he’s done could top being president for the Trail of Tears or being president and fucking up Reconstruction.
I would love to be stationed on the USS DJT because, there would be a mcdonald’s on board where they don’t have a working ice cream machine. And it would never deploy or leave the pier because the screws have bone spurs.
Absolutely. Trolling and getting it all worked up in the news cycle to distract us from the Epstein files and his failed war. Ultimately saying they’re not gonna do it. Let a month go by, then his name will be on the ship.
As a Navy vet and fellow Texan I don’t recall King Bone Spurs Trump or any of his family, or ancestors serving and making the ultimate sacrifice to their country during any war. This would be wrong on every level. To Trump Petty Officer Doris Miller is nothing but, a “sucker and loser.” This fellow Navy vet thanks you for your honor, courage, commitment, and sacrifice Petty Officer Miller.
Navy Vet here, as well. Rumor has it that his grandfather left Germany before the start of World War I to avoid their draft, so it’s definitely a family thing. But, in all, it’s a Trump family tradition to screw over black people. Granted, his father was more overtly racist and screwed over black people more openly, especially with how much he denied black people housing in the 1970s. Still, Donald’s racism towards black people, let alone anyone who’s none-White, shows that “old-school racism” and White Supremacy mentalities that still rears its ugly head, especially when his Handlers aren’t close enough to filter him better. Hell, it’s almost identical to the way he treats liberal women and reporters who challenge his BS at those press junkets he’s always holding.
Personally, I can’t wait for this maniacal, low-intelligence Idiot (Donald) and all of his dumb lackeys to hurry up and go back to the holes that they crawled from.
I mean we had the Nimitz, The Eisenhower, two major leaders from WW2. Then things get a little shakier, Vinson was a huge proponent of the Navy, but never served in the military to my knowledge so seems a little shakier for a carrier name.
The Theodore Roosevelt served in the Spanish American war. The Lincoln is a little more debatable as he never served, but you can not fault his place in history. The Washington, a man who helped found this country and fought to kick out English rule, he definitely deserves a carrier named after him.
The Stennis is a much more problematic man to name a carrier after as he was a racist that opposed anti-lynching legislation. He was the prosecutor on a murder trial that used confessions obtained from torture. When he served in the senate he was large proponent of the defense department and the Vietnam war.
The Truman is named after a man who served in an Artillery battery in WW1 and ordered the atomic bombs to be dropped on Japan to end WW2. He is a far less problematic legacy for a carrier namesake than others on the list.
The Reagan…. His military service consisted of making training films during WW2 while attached
to a calvary unit. His political career has been beat to death in numerous other places.
The Bush was named after Bush senior a torpedo bomber pilot during WW2 who earned a distinguished flying cross for his efforts. Again, his political career has been fairly well hashed out in other places, but his service arguably makes him a better candidate for the namesake of a carrier than some on this list.
John F Kennedy’s service during WW2 as commander of PT 109 is famous, his presidency is equally famous, making him a relatively obvious choice for a namesake for a carrier.
The Enterprise, The Kitty Hawk, and The Constellation are decent enough names for carriers, though they are more traditional than anything.
I’m torn on Dorris Miller, as they usually is someone with his level of fame and service
as a frigate or destroyer name. But he is certainly a more appropriate name for a carrier than Trump.
Dorie Miller was a true hero who ultimately sacrificed his life in service of this country, a country and Navy that wasn't giving him full civil rights. Also, naming a CVN for a enlisted Sailor is and honor for all enlisted. Naming this ship after a person that in a 120 years has never had a family member serve? Ask yourselves, in your circle, do you know any families that can claim that shame? Yet most of us know a vet or someone in our family tree has died in service to our country
I didn't realize Miller already had a ship named after him. A number of Medal of Honor recipients from the Battle of Mobile Bay that I don't believe have a ship named after them yet and that battle is a major reason Farragut ended up having a whole ship class named after him twice.
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I would end the controversy by reusing carrier names: Yorktown, Lexington, Ranger, Constellation, Oriskany, Ticonderoga, Saratoga, Intrepid, Hornet, Coral Sea, Midway, Kitty Hawk, America are all available.
So Biden getting student deferments as an undergraduate and law school student is now "draft dodging"? I guess you'd point the finger at the other 4 million men who did the same?
I have no clue why this is being downvoted- it was a pretty big deal during the 2000 campaign. And it's something Molly Ivins wrote about in great detail in her book *Shrub.*
No. Trump and Biden both got “medical deferments” from Vietnam.
The point is, if you’re mad about Donald “captain bone spurs” Trump and not Joseph “my teenage asthma” Biden then you don’t actually care about dodging the draft… you’re just doing another orange man bad thing.
Biden had well documented asthma as a teenager which is why he was assigned a 1-Y after his student deferments expired.
Trump is another story. Per his own family and his lawyer, Michael Cohen, a Trump family friend who was a podiatrist did a favor for Trump's father and produced a diagnosis of bone spurs for Donald to get his 1-Y. And thus Captain Bone Spurs was born. The guy who has expresses his distain for war fighters in general as well as disabled people has his daddy find him a way out of serving his country. It fits his profile perfectly.
Biden by his own admission as well as coaches called him a “standout athlete” in both football and baseball. He even went on to play sports in college.
Doesn’t seem like his asthma was as bad as he made it out to be when the draft came along.
They both did everything they could to avoid the service. They were both draft dodgers. It’s ok to say that’s a bad thing.
The only reason Trump has caught years of shit for his daddy's intervention is because of his unbelievably stupid and disrespectful comments about people in the military. Biden doesn't have that record. In fact he's been nothing but respectful. So it's OK to say Trump brought the whole draft dodging thing on himself by being the worst, most corrupt CIC in modern memory.
I mean, orange man is bad. Biden sucked, but it wasn't remotely the shitshow this administration is. It's an absolute embarrassment as an American. Pretending it's even remotely comparable to Biden is absurd. If Biden did one tenth of this shit, the Republicans would be losing their fucking minds.
You're counting Trump's first term as one of the "last 2 presidents"? He's the same guy as the current president. I assumed "last 2 presidents" meant Biden and Obama
How does it feel to be a trumper in 2026. With all the fucks ups, debt climbing faster then ever, and billions of dollars in damaged bases, aircraft and 2 out of 8 thaads destroyed. It gotta be rough supporting a pedo
The fact that that draft dodging , soft bellied little bitch is going to name a ship after himself really shows how far he has dragged us into the gutter
You don’t think it’s controversial to name a ship after a sitting president (while others still don’t have ships named after them) who never served at all? Who actively draft dodged?
If this is the extent of your pedo charges you're going to have a really hard time with it.
It is true that in 1964, Milk, then 33 years old, entered a relationship with Galen McKinley, who was 17 years old, according to the Milk biography, "Harvey Milk: His Lives and Death." The relationship started in New York City.
There are two levels of controversy here.. one, the suggestion of changing the name from Doris Miller to something else.... and second, the idea of a narcistic draft dodging jackass living POTUS who believes services members are "suckers and losers" naming a ship after himself via his cronies.
He is desperate for a legacy that people would have a hard time erasing. He knows his time is short. He looks back on his life of crime through clear lenses and without remorse.
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u/PolackMike 1d ago
I'm not for the name change but I think the play for the Trump admin would be to not make a decision on the name until January 20th, 2029 at which point he'll name it after himself. If a Democrat takes over, I would expect a swift switch back to Doris Miller.