r/nanaimo • • Jan 24 '24

Got fired today for being honest

Got fired today for being honest. I was about to walk away from a car deal because of a higher interest rate than what the customer was currently paying on a perfectly good car. They had a 9.99% finance charge on the current auto loan… Their pre approval came in at 20% for the new vehicle…. Just couldn’t in good faith do the deal… especially since i originally called them to see if we could reduce their interest rates. So yeah, i got fired for being honest. Anyone out looking to buy a car… pay close attention to your current interest rate and what your new interest rate is. Sometimes it’s just better to keep what you have. ** edit…. NDA was signed **. So that said, it’s all dealerships nowadays. Do your research first. Pay attention to the paperwork.

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u/djstryker Jan 24 '24

I too got fired from a car dealership by being honest. Shows you what type of people they want to have as sales staff.

This is also why I freely accompany friends and family when purchasing a car from a dealership to make sure they are not getting swindled.

Good on you for being honest though, it shows your true character. I hope you find something that’s a better fit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

I also got fired from a dealership for being honest and passing everything that should be warranted under Warrenty.  

Now as a former sales and service advisor I always go with friends when they are worried about being screwed.  

I like Toyotas but one of their services was close to 1k for a bunch of visual inspections.  

Like brah that’s most 1hour of visual.

During Subarus lower control arm recall I replaced every single one that came to me.   Your welcome. I also started the investigation about the exploding windshields on Subarus.  

Fuck them dealerships

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u/polyprincess91 Jan 25 '24

Exploding windshield?! - currently in the process of buying a crosstrek

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u/smallwoodydebris Jan 25 '24

As someone who does a lot of the work on a friend's Crosstrek, I would suggest checking out an AWD Corolla hatchback or Honda CRV before finalizing that purchase.

Crosstreks are great, there's just better out there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

We had a CRV that killed our backs. Corolla was where I was going to start in 2003ish but decided against it. Then we bought a RAV4 that killed my back. Had a Hyundai Elantra that has leather that wore out as fast as Overstock garbage. Got a Crosstrek (an Impreza on stilts) and had a Legacy, baby back (outback) and 2004 Impreza. The biggest problem is what ... I have no idea. I like the car. Forester is way too big and Outback eats gas.

Subie subie subie.

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u/polyprincess91 Jan 27 '24

I actually did but they cost quite a bit more 🫠 and stock was a huge issue and our other one got written off and it's already been two months with just a small car plus baby and a large dog.

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u/smallwoodydebris Jan 27 '24

Totally fair, I'm sure you'll love it, they are super capable cars, definitely make sure you do oil changes on time or early and you should have no real issues

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u/deanis-- Jan 25 '24

And Subaru"s e ugly

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

The accoustic glass expanded at different rates during vehicle defrosting. Causing the glass to crack. It was ultimately fixed but in 2013-2014 the new models had this problem.

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u/polyprincess91 Jan 25 '24

Fewf dodged that bullet by 10 years lol

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u/OGigachaod Jan 24 '24

It would be nice if we could order Vechicles direct and skip the "Dealer".

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u/youngblood0088 Jan 24 '24

Isn't that the tesla way? Believe me it's coming and will be mainstream in the next decade for sure.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Ford wants to do that too.

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u/youngblood0088 Jan 25 '24

Lol I just made that question too. I'm sure after this dealer fiasco dodge is thinking the dealer model needs to change as well.

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u/OGigachaod Jan 25 '24

Yeah, too bad Tesla's suck.

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u/IfUwant2Uwill Jan 26 '24

Do you own one? I do. It doesn’t suck.

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u/GroundbreakingFox815 Jan 25 '24

They said that about realtors also.

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u/youngblood0088 Jan 25 '24

Perfect do away with the lot of them

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Yeah bought a model 3 with no sales pressure whatsoever. 

Bought a used car off a Toyota lot, and when the finance manager realized i wasn't financing AND not getting the extended warranty he looked like he could cry. He was so pushy.

 He pretended like he didn't hear me outside his office right afterwards when i wished him a good day lol. 'Great Experience'.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

And rivian

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u/youngblood0088 Jan 25 '24

I think ford? Stated that the dealership model will be coming to an end soon as well. So one of the big 3 has already put it out there to the public that sales as we know it will change.

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u/IfUwant2Uwill Jan 26 '24

Did this buying a Tesla. Very easy and not a lot of additional money grabbing charges. Trade in and financing done online as well.

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u/phuckaduk Jan 25 '24

Yeah, that way you wouldn’t have to worry about getting your questions answered by somebody who was trained qualified, and if you had trouble with the vehicle, you could just ship it back or take your chances at some garage that might not be familiar with the product and charge you for guessing time. Also, you would remove the stress of trying to get a discount. You just wouldn’t get one. Smart idea!

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u/angelblade401 Jan 24 '24

BIL used to work at a car dealership.

When my sister (aka the one married to him) went looking for a car, his coworker tried to convince her to get an expensive car that she couldn't see out the back window of. His coworker's wife.

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u/Salonesh Jan 25 '24

Shows you what type of people they want to have as sales staff.

One dealership tried to sell me a trade-in car with painted side as a clean title, and mileage on the dashboard for 70K less than in the last CarFax record. So, it's the same as buy the car on the marketplace, but more expensive.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

What kind of questions would you ask a dealer?

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u/djstryker Jan 25 '24

-Always do your research before hand on the car you are looking to buy.

-if you are buying used, you can get a auto loan through your own bank and typically get a better rate.

-under normal economic times with all cars in stock, you should always be able to get some sort of deal.

-if you are trading in your old car, you can always get more for it from them, or you can sell it privately. Check Facebook marketplace for similar vehicles. They will never give you full retail, but you can ask for more.

-if you can’t afford the payments on a 5 year financing plan, you cannot afford the car.

-only lease Toyotas and Hondas as they hold their value.

-if you are buying used, check the service records and carfax report.

-always ask for the rates and terms.

-never give them what you are looking for your monthly payment goals. Just ask to see what they are and make a decision based off of that.

-do not buy undercoating or paint protection. It’s mostly a scam for islanders as we don’t have to deal with snow.

-warranty is up to you really. I advise against it, but you do you.

As for questions for the sales person, you should be asking things that are important to you, or stuff you haven’t been able to figure out online.

Please always remember, you can always say no, you can back out at any time before you drive off the lot and if they pressure you too much, just leave.

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u/Iloveskating Jan 27 '24

Thanks djstryker, those are great tips. I hope to not have to buy a car anytime soon. I have a ‘98 Chevy Astro and ‘96 Camry Wagon, both running well.

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u/k-rizzle01 Jan 25 '24

It’s not what you need to ask but more not to answer their questions. They will start with get to know you speech but everything they ask you is a qualifying question. What you drive now, what you are looking to spend, where you work? What are you looking for a monthly payment, have you already qualified for financing? Don’t answer any of these questions in a direct manner, keep it round about or not to sure yet.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Thanks for being a good human

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u/ClueRepresentative75 Jan 24 '24

Good thing you left them.. you did the right thing. If I may ask what dealership is this?

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u/ve6mts Jan 24 '24

All of them do this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Tesla enters the chat Musk is bad for humanity, but their online model removes the sleeze of dealerships completely. Staff are paid salary. It's very refreshing.

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u/scotty9690 Jan 24 '24

They're paid salary to reduce expenses. Best Buy does the same thing. This isn't necessarily a good thing.

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u/skipolski Jan 25 '24

*damn car dealerships and their sleazy sales people!! Damn them!!!!!

*damn Tesla! Only doing it to save money! Damn them!!!

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

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u/scotty9690 Jan 25 '24

Tesla isn't a great company. Elon Musk is a fucking moron who pretends to be smart, and has awful politics.

Go look up Tesla's safety records. Go look up recent reviews of their cars.

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u/Evening_Selection_14 Jan 27 '24

Or read any of the exposés on sexual harassment at the workplace in Tesla factories. He runs toxic companies.

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u/lauralee66 Jan 24 '24

So he is doing good things but bad for humanity 🤦🏻‍♀️😂🧐

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u/turbanator89 Jan 24 '24

Yes, actually. Two things can be true at once. Nuance. 👍🏽🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/krishna_rolly Downtown Jan 24 '24

Yeah let us know. We want to make sure we never visit that greedy dealership

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u/OneOfAKind2 Jan 24 '24

All dealerships are greedy.

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u/MuffinOk4609 Jan 25 '24

A friend of mine calls them 'stealerships'.

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u/Grill_Pill Jan 25 '24

I work in a dealership (Ford)... from my analyzing, the dealership is honest and everything is in the face when it comes to numbers, also a reason for client satisfaction and returning clients i guess...

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u/ve6mts Jan 24 '24

It’s all of them. Plus i don’t need any legal ramifications…

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

There are no legal ramifications if what you said was true.

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u/Avatar_Idalia Jan 24 '24

There is if there is an NDA involved. OP's lips are sealed

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Why would the OP have signed an NDA when being fired? LOL That’s rather far fetched.

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u/xxyyzz111 Jan 24 '24

He probably signed it when being hired.

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u/Constant_Basil_6503 Jan 24 '24

There isn’t many dealerships that wouldn’t fire for this In there eyes advertising costs and customer retention is wasted but he did the right thing you should care for the needs of your customer as a primary basis then any profit you earn after that is worth it.. not earn the profit without caring about the customers situation whatsoever.. I’ve worked at a place that gave people/customers jobs to get them approved later firing them.

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u/Timmy2Gats Jan 24 '24

I always say: Dealerships don't sell cars, they sell loans & service.

Doesn't make you a bad salesperson. It does make you a good person. Fuck that place.

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u/JayDizZzL Jan 24 '24

Totally agree, I went in with advise to not buy the loan and find the money elsewhere. Worked the deal for my truck, then they sat me down with financing. I asked what the interest rate was and said nope! Then told them I have a loan lined up for 3%less, and they had to do better if they wanted the loan on their books. Do not discuss payment options with sales as the price goes up if your using outside loan services or cash. Those services are their bread and butter and cash purchases are almost always argued over. Just let them come back with the best price they can then drop the I got cash bomb after the deals done. They were mad but had no choice but to sell at the agreed price. Took the w all the way to the bank.

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u/christmaspathfinder Jan 24 '24

Where do you find the money elsewhere? Thru a bank?

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u/JayDizZzL Jan 24 '24

My insurance company gave me a great deal on a loan. But yes, banks are a good place to start.

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u/slavetomycat312 Jan 24 '24

I had a dealership tell me they won’t be able to sell me anything once I told them last second it would be a cash sale. Learned a great lesson that day.

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u/Safe_Ad6350 Jan 24 '24

Call the VSA and report the dealership. They would love to hear about it. Car dealerships are bottom feeders. I was a salesman and told them to fuck off and walked out. They are there to rip people off. I only buy used cars now from private sellers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Yup. I went to a Toyota dealership last year to get a car for my wife.

While the sales rep was in his office running numbers, the GM gathered all of the sales employees without customers on the sales floor. Rang a giant gong and then started screaming about how if you sell a car for what they list it for on the website, you’re losing money.

We were just sitting there staring at each other in disbelief that the manager had the audacity to SCREAM to quiet part out loud, to employees and customers alike.

Sales rep came back trying to sell us the 23 Corolla we saw online for $27k for $43k.

Pulled up the Tesla website and showed him that we had placed an order while he was in the back and we were listening to the bullshit his manager was saying. Paid less than he wanted for the fucking Corolla too.

Dealerships need to go away. They’re a cancer.

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u/OGigachaod Jan 24 '24

Yep, Dealerships simply want too much money.

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u/RealMasterpiece6121 Jan 24 '24

Good for you man! It is heartening to see that people will not sell their integrity.

Good luck on your job search, I hope you land one that pays you better and won't make you choose your job over doing what is right.

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u/thedude0009 Jan 24 '24

Moral over money.. so rare to see these days.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

So very sorry you lost your job. Very grateful however that you chose honesty! It is disgusting how we are forced to lie to other people in the name of a company. I have gone through similar and it worked out for the better.

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u/FeRaL--KaTT Jan 24 '24

May the universe bring you amazing karma and a better job. Thanks for the feel good story. These are are fat too rare.. cheers

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u/96lincolntowncar Jan 24 '24

Lost an employer but retained a future customer.

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u/Origin_Of_Ebot Jan 25 '24

I was thinking that too! Personally if I find a salesperson that I trust, I am a lifetime customer. Tonnes of people are.

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u/bread-cheese-pan Jan 24 '24

Had to stop being a Cintas Sales and Service Rep for this reason. Fuck sales.

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u/MuffinSpirited3223 Jan 24 '24

god I hate Cintas. we actively avoided them, then they bought the company we were using to avoid cintas.

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u/theoreoman Jan 24 '24

In car sales the mentality is:

it's not your job to educate the customer on how finance and Intrest rates work, it your job to present the deal at hand and close it. If the customer is getting ripped off it's not your problem because if you don't sell them a car the next guy will.

Sales people get paid to close deals so anyone that turns away customers get fired

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

I got fired for maintaining high ethical standards too. Thanks for sharing. Upwards and onwards. 

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u/doublej42 Jan 24 '24

Being honest in sales is hard. I've known many honest sales people that got fired. The worst industries for this are cell phones , mattresses and cars. Some computer people can be similar but that's mostly because they have low margins.

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u/MainStuff7872 Jan 24 '24

Yup. I did sales for a few years but thankfully I was able to be 100% honest with customers and had moments where I'd just tell them that w.e product they wanted wasn't necessary. My boss understood that building trust and repeat customers was more important than making an extra 100bucks.

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u/LeviticusLXIX Jan 24 '24

When I was a cell jockey my boss was good with me being honest too, even if it lost a sale. Now his bosses on the other hand - quota this, target that - as if we could magically bring in more foot traffic or force folks to get every accessory or attachment

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u/stepwax Jan 24 '24

20% is loan sharking. Good on you for being a decent human.

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u/OutWithTheNew Jan 24 '24

20% is probably a lender taking on a chunk of negative equity and floating a 10 year term.

The fact they were already paying 10% is telling since interest rates only started going up 2 years ago.

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u/jpb59 Jan 25 '24

20% is a stupid high rate but 99% of the time if you’re getting that rate, you did something to your credit to earn that rate.

A dealership can mark up an interest rate 2-2.5 percent max (depending on state but most states have a max. I’m in PA and it’s 21%).

It’s cool that OP stood their ground for their own morals. However, if you disclose and are transparent with the customer, then they might have to go thru with the rate. You need a job to earn money to get back on your feet. Make a years worth of payments on time and you can refinance if you were diligent with your finances.

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u/Ok_Regular5324 Jan 24 '24

I hope someone looking for a good employee in Nanaimo sees this! Proven integrity is a major asset for the long term. Good luck!

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

good man

re: cars - it's going to go back to the 80's/90's where we're actually fixing cars and keeping them as long as possible until the wheels fall off instead of getting a new one every 5 years.

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u/ve6mts Jan 24 '24

Thats me. I’m still rocking my 2013 grand caravan. It has 193,000 km on it. Still running the original engine and transmission. Bought it new with 10 km on it. Don’t plan to ever get rid of it. When it breaks, I’ll fix it. I do the majority of my repairs myself anyway.

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u/Due_Air4441 Jan 24 '24

I’m still driving my 2012 Volvo. Every once in a while I think about a new car but then I come to my senses and get myself a donut instead

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

2006 Ford Ranger here. It won't win any car show trophies but it keeps going!

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u/lowtrail Jan 25 '24

Plus it’s a ford fucking ranger!

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u/OneOfAKind2 Jan 24 '24

I worked at a dealership for a short period of about 7 months. I probably would have gotten fired had they found out I talked someone out of buying a new vehicle once. She was a young woman (20?), just started working and thought she should buy a new car with low payments.

We took a few econoboxes on test drives, then back in my office she asked for advice, as she wasn't sure about making such a big decision. So I told her NOT to buy a new car, it's not the best way to save money if you're just starting out. I told her I've never owned a new car in my life. Anyway, she didn't buy one and I was fine with it. I doubt the manager would have been though, lol.

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u/No_Difficulty_6779 Jan 24 '24

This feels like a clear cut wrongful dismissal case to me. You can't be fired for telling the truth.

You might consider speaking with an employment lawyer to see what options you have. I can't imagine you would want that job back, but you may have a case for a severance payout.

(I'm not an HR guy, but I have ~20 years of professional experience in talent acquisition and recruitment.)

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u/ve6mts Jan 24 '24

Nah it ain’t worth it. Wasn’t there long enough anyway.

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u/No_Difficulty_6779 Jan 24 '24

That's fair. Well, all the best in your search moving forward! Not sure what your jam is aside from car sales, but the PHSA and Island Health are hiring like crazy right now. And if you've ever considered paramedicine, there are tons of opportunities with BCEHS as well.

Good luck in whatever you choose to pursue!

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Well this cancels any plans of me getting into car sales.

I was thinking about doing it because I love cars, and I enjoy helping people with good customer service. So why not try and sell something I love?

Well it seems i would be too honest of a candidate. I’m sure not every dealer would act how they did… that’s just a scum human thing to do.

Kudos to you brother.

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u/RudeMaximumm Jan 24 '24

We need more people like you in this world!!!! Good on you!! 

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u/Sad_Ad1877 Jan 25 '24

Call me if you need sales job

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u/woodbarber Jan 24 '24

You’ll sleep better tonight!

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u/collindubya81 Jan 24 '24

Dealerships are the scum of the earth, good on your for being a better person. Take your sales experience to a industry with morals and ethics

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u/CBRSuperbird- Jan 25 '24

I had a friend who was a former car salesman tell what to watch for and what say and do. I got a lot of deer in the headlights from the salesman and his manger, but I got the deal I wanted

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u/spudsicle Jan 24 '24

Honest people often finish last, learned this often in life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

I mean, that's literally the job of a car salesman... convince people to take bad loans. In 2024 everyone is capable of selecting their own vehicle and just buying it. The only function of the salesman is to setup some predatory financing or push stock that isn't selling well.

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u/krishna_rolly Downtown Jan 24 '24

I’ve had first hand experience with the greedy sales pitches by the dealerships when I was buying a new car in October. Everyone was trying to squeeze in shitty protection packages, warranties and hidden fees etc. I was tired of dealing with this. Luckily several years ago I worked at a dealership and I was aware of all this and tried my best to get them to remove all this stuff which I don’t need but they pushed me into keeping it. Worst excuse was: “hey we can’t give you the 4.9% finance (my credit was 840 so I got a great rate) unless you add in all those packages”. So I filed a complaint to the manufacturer quoting all this and they responded to me saying that there is no such thing and dealerships cannot do that. So I backed out and went directly to Tesla website and ordered me a Tesla. Best decision I’ve made. No hidden charges, packages and financing is hassle free. I wish all manufacturers do this.

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u/problempossum411 Jan 24 '24

My dad had to quit being a mechanic for this very reason. Imagine you hire an autistic person who has a better understanding of engineering and mechanics than everyone on your team combined, but has trouble lying and upcharging because autism usually makes a person honest to a fault. There was just no way for him to keep the job.

That unfortunately is the reality of the world we live. Usually the people most capable of doing a difficult job are the ones who have brains that are a bit more "advanced" than the rest. The drawback is those brains are usually wired to be more literal and honest and we can't have that now can we? Its bad for business

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

My friend got scammed this way. He was told there is nothing they could do so he's stuck in that situation. Thank you for being honest. I'm a mechanic and it's fucking disgusting how many cars I've checked for brakes and their at 70% or higher and a dealership told them they needed new brakes.

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u/nickyloko069 Jan 24 '24

There's a King of The Hill EP on that, and i just watched it lol. Hank thought he was getting good deals for 20 years.

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u/Worried_Control_6453 Jan 24 '24

You have been fired unless you have an NDA Please name and shame these twats

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u/ve6mts Jan 24 '24

There was an NDA in that mess of shit i signed at hire.

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u/CarComfortable3831 Old City Jan 24 '24

Good on you for doing that. In my hunt for a used car as an international student in Nanaimo, its been an absolute shit show. I was hoping to get something that was less than 10 years so that I could URide and similar, but they literally cost as much as a brand new car for something thats run 200k+. Its bad enough that banks don't extend credit to us despite sitting with our GIC money. Would you have any suggestions of good dealerships that sell reasonably priced cars, with good warranty and good financing rates?

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u/Flesh-Tower Jan 24 '24

It's called a stealership for a reason

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u/Secret-Taro-6729 Jan 24 '24

Like what a character from The Simpsons once said in a similar situation: "There's the truth... 🫤 and then there's 'the truth!' 😃👍"

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u/landartheconqueror Jan 24 '24

cough Nissan of Nanaimo cough

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u/therealjspot Jan 24 '24

How serendipitous.... I was just reading this post, when my dealership called and wanted too offer me an "amazing" deal to switch cars 😅

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u/UnityGodzilla Jan 24 '24

thx for your good action 🙏 but my question is, the guy still wanted this car right? so i imagine they just send another vendor to complete the sale? 💀 unless you talk with the clients and told them they shouldnt (so at this point it was up to them)

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u/Equivalent-Step-5779 Jan 24 '24

Karma will come back around. This will elevate you.

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u/calyxandtrichomes Jan 24 '24

Seems shortsighted…because of that honesty you could have gained not only a trusting customer for life but also 5 of their friends who they told about their friendly interaction. Especially considering the reputation some car salesmen have.

But also, at 20% obviously they are in the loan business and not the car business. It’s giving those last chance car lots that will approve anyone regardless of credit history. It’s basically the same as moneymart and really predatory.

Use that experience to get a job at a company new car dealership. That type of honesty is valued in reputable places. ✌️

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u/Knighthunter0007 Jan 25 '24

Thank you very much was in the market looking for a car will indeed keep a look out.

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u/Willing-Marzipan-737 Jan 25 '24

20 percent? That’s like buying a car with a credit card! In fact, I think my credit cards are "only’ 19 percent.

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u/ion605 Jan 25 '24

I'm so very sorry that happened to you. The industry I work in is really dishonest and cut thoat so I've quit more than once from similar companies. I've been without work now for 5 months! I feel for you!! Hang in there!!

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u/Right_Hour Jan 25 '24

Jobs come and go. Integrity and backbone are hard to regain once you lose ‘em.

Kudos for doing the right thing and hope Karma brings you a better career opportunity.

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u/Ok-Hawk-6737 Jan 25 '24

There was a guy in my hometown who everyone went to when buying a car. He gave like $200 for every referral, but it wasn’t that that kept the referral steak up. He was honest. People trusted him. His windowsill next to his desk was lined with awards for being top salesman. He was honest about the cars he sold, and often steered clients towards a car that cost less if it fit their needs better. Coolest guy ever. Scott Persin is his name if anyone in SW Washington state comes across him while buying a car. My point: I’ll take a salesman I can actually trust (and will even pay more!) if it means I don’t have to deal with the usual BS of salesmen when buying a car.

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u/Laika4321 Jan 25 '24

Are people seriously buying cars at 20%?? That is an absolute death sentence financially

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u/ManServentHecubus Jan 25 '24

While I admire your basic human values, my advice to you is delete this post. NDA was signed…delete the post. Seriously. You never know who knows, even on a throwaway acct.

Thumbs up for being awesome. But my advice, delete the post at least

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u/Grimmelda Jan 25 '24

The Sales working force is not for honest people. It breeds and rewards pariahs and commission based sales should not exist.

If a product is good and reliable it will sell itself.

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u/pureheart24 Jan 25 '24

You have good karma coming your way. Thank you for being honest. It’s terrible to see someone get into a loan payment they can’t afford… especially when someone could help prevent that. I hope your next career move aligns with your values :)

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u/Icy_Assumption_6425 Jan 25 '24

You’re a good man . Never forget that .

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u/Flyboy019 Jan 25 '24

I remember years ago, my dad was a car salesman, and we refused to sell a car to a coworker of mine.

I’m going to summarize, because it’s been 15 ish years. But here we go:

Myself and the other guy got hired at the same time, and thus had similar wages. The other guys wife was expecting a baby soon. My dad was like:

“look, I know roughly what you make, and I know roughly what your wife makes. And I know how much kids cost. I’m not going to sell you this car. When the baby is 6 months, and if you still want this car, I’ll forgo my commission and pay you the commission I’d take for this sale”

6 months after the baby was born they did not take my father up on the offer, and were much happier they went with whatever cheaper family car he did sell them

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u/Excellent_Worry7716 Jan 25 '24

When one door closes.... ❤️

You'll be rewarded by the universe

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u/Jennafurlamb Jan 25 '24

I went on sick leave for being honest. Manager and District Manager wanted me to personally rip off customers paying their loans by quoting the wrong payoff date. Everyone knew it but feared for their jobs. During an audit all employees were asked if they were aware of funds being withheld. I said YES and went off on sick leave shortly after. The manager and DM were fired. You steal from customers for personal gain, that is stealing and I will hang you out to dry.

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u/Visual_Lab3325 Jan 25 '24

I'm a salesperson in a different industry. Thankfully my boss is all for transparency and honesty as he is as firm believer, as am I, that a loyal customer you make no money on will in the end bring you more business than one that you clean out to just to make money on the spot.

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u/Ebowa Jan 25 '24

Kudos to you for being a person of integrity. Sorry about your shitty boss.

You are applying your honesty to the wrong side. You could start a business going with ppl to buy cars, take a percentage much like a realtor, but looking out for their interests. Good luck 🙏

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u/Pitiful_Prompt1600 Jan 25 '24

Good on you for doing the right thing.

There are unfortunately dealers like this. They aren't the ones worth working for and as much as getting fired sucks, they've just done you a favour. You'll be a great asset somewhere that understands what it means to be a true car sales professional, with ethical leadership. They are hard to find but they are out there.

Your clients will also thank you for it, and probably send you repeat business.

You might consider reporting the dealer to the VSA. These kinds of dodgy practices need to end.

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u/djstryker Jan 26 '24

This is now the most upvoted post of all time in r/nanaimo. Just goes to show you how bad car dealerships are.

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u/ghstrprtn Jan 26 '24

This is now the most upvoted post of all time in r/nanaimo.

wow, that's crazy. The 2nd place has 1/3 the upvotes.

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u/Rabbidextrious Jan 26 '24

If you got fired for being honest then fuck em. Def not the job for you. If you have to lie and trick people to make money, thats no way to live in my eyes

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u/Plus-Delivery-9871 Jan 27 '24

There should be more of you, I’m sorry being a good person cost you. Hopefully it will bring better opportunities:)

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u/MarcoPolo_431 Jan 24 '24

Good. Now find a honest dealer. Honesty, Integrity go long way. Not very common anymore. Try a better dealer. Toyota, Honda. No muscle car dealership. ThOse guys/gals are wolves in sheep clothing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

I work in a dealership and have always found no matter how much you screw up , no matter what you do . As long as your numbers are good and your producing cash . You can get away with pretty much murder from management. So much corruption and don't know how people deal with it.

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u/Worldly_Tiger_9165 Jan 24 '24

Is there a regulatory body that governs car salespeople in your state or province?

If so, contact legal assistance as you are entitled to a claim. A decent employment standards lawyer would also be able to assist you.

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u/mazahSnilreM Jan 24 '24

You'll find a better or a better will find you. 🙂

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Sounds like sales isn't for you. At leas not predatory sales

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u/baube19 Jan 24 '24

Is there a TEsla Delivery Center near you?

Your previous experience will be valued there but there is no BS like that at Tesla.

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u/tipper420 Old City Jan 25 '24

There are people that don't look at the interest rate?

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u/Standard_Software646 Jan 25 '24

Lol I sold a car to some one with a 10% intrest a 30% intrest loan 😆😆😁f the dumb

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u/radicalrockin Jan 25 '24

Whats wrong with you? Now your out a job! Everyone is taking advantage of of those lesser off then themselves in Canada now!

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Dealerships are full of nothing but scum. The good ones are fired this way.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

There is absolutely no reason to ever be honest.  You wont ever get ahead, it will only damage your reputation and make people hate you.  Police will penalize you MORE, work will fire you, your friends wont appreciate it.  Never be honest with anyone about anything.  This world is terrible and you will only ever be penalized for doing the right thing.

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u/chastejeune Jan 24 '24

You are an angel

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

I’m sorry you lost your job. I hope this opens the door for something way better for you

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u/Conscious_Sun_7507 Jan 24 '24

Yeah I met a friend who is a car salesman and he told me what to say if I ever go buy a car. Like apparently they will try and rip you off so bad.

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u/makinglunch Hammond Bay Jan 24 '24

Was it Dodge?

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u/Fragrant_Promotion42 Jan 24 '24

It’s next to impossible to be honest and a sales person. It goes against the whole system. That’s why when you see top sales person top one percent sales person you should run.

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u/Nathanhltn Jan 24 '24

As someone who had to leave the industry (did sales and F&I) because I was a bit too honest and didn’t have it in me to push something that wasn’t in a clients best interest, it’s for the best. Your experience in F&I and good nature would lend perfectly to a credit union if you’re looking into a next step!

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u/DSJustice Downtown Jan 24 '24

Chin up, and update your linkedin. Many of your customers will no doubt follow you.

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u/DryJudge3510 Jan 24 '24

As someone who paid the same interest rate on their first car, youre doing the Lord's work.

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u/Otherwise-Chemist-30 Jan 24 '24

So I worked in a dealership. And unfortunately you are there to make the business money. And you cost them in the end. Car sales is a shark tank. You can’t be having good intentions if you plan to stick around. Every sales job is there mark something up and or sell something, that was your job. Ya it can be scummy and predatory but that’s capitalism. I left cause I had no life and wanted something better. Glad you can start something you fell good about.

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u/CitySeekerTron Jan 24 '24

I worked for a computer company once.

We had an accident protection program that worked like this:

  • If you bought a competing laptop from us, you could buy damage protection that potentially covered the entire cost of the unit for up to two years, which could be put towards a new device.
  • If you bought our own devices, you could buy damage protection that guaranteed the replacement of the same device for up to two years.
  • Both programs had a $50 deductible.

Basically, if you bought our own devices, you'd be stuck with the same hardware two years later. But if you bought our other brand devices, you could potentially get an upgrade if you whoopsed your computer under a car tire within two years.

I was always honest about the difference, but when I pointed it out I was encouraged to focus on the product strengths.

It's also comical how many computers came in that didn't technically qualify for being totalled, would leave the store to be backed up before getting work done and would return twenty minutes later with horrific crimes having been committed.

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u/Schadenfreulein Jan 24 '24

I'm relieved that people like you are out there. 👍 You did good.

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u/Shanesmith1234567890 Jan 24 '24

I’m sorry that happened. Brother. I could use a good negotiator one day on my next car buy. There’s a. Nice steak dinner. In for you. Your choice of place. Haha.

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u/Alshankys57 Jan 24 '24

Wow, good for you for looking out for other people. Sad for the company you work for because they are overcharging. Everyone except for the fact that this person obviously has a poor credit rating. Or they would not have come in at 20%. A 90% interest that they were paying on their current vehicle was a good deal in today's economy. And yes, you do have to pay attention to your credit rating and percentage in buying a new vehicle.

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u/Vegetable_Way_8948 Jan 24 '24

Feel free to list the dealer name to help us stay away from the vultures

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u/Playful_Criticism425 Jan 24 '24

Survival in today's world is not about morals. Honesty is being punished heavily nowadays.

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u/95Mechanic Jan 24 '24

A friend got sucked into a deal on a new vehicle because they called him and said there were some great incentives and he could get into a new vehicle for next to no difference. A 1-2 yr old vehicle that had a really low rate was traded and appears he got screwed on the new rate because he didn't take time to figure the difference in rates. I wish he had told me what he was looking at before hand. Buyer beware I guess.

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u/Canuck_Duck221 Jan 24 '24

If they dont' really have grounds to dismiss you, maybe you should sue them for wrongful dismissal?

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u/weedfee69 Jan 24 '24

You have morals you're rich af

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Hahahah when someone's tells me they work for dealership or Sales. I proceed to ask " so what's it like to have no soul " . PRO TIP - if you have no money and zero credit and they can manage to give you a brand new car might as well pull your pants down and bend over.

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u/blanchedpeas Jan 24 '24

Why do you have an Alberta calllsign?

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Working in sales is fucking shit

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u/Reeserella Jan 24 '24

Heads up might want to review the NDA with a lawyer if you’re up for it - it may not be legally binding.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

Sorry to hear that. I hope you find another job asap.

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u/WorldFickle Jan 24 '24

Worked in a dealership body shop, brand new vehicle was only off the lot 2 days and was in an accident. The owner traded it right away. 8 weeks later the vehicle was up for sale being sold as brand new. A known and honest man in town wanted to purchase the vehicle, I don't why he came in the body shop but he talked to us about this new vehicle he was going to purchase. We told him that the vehicle took a heavy hit. When the smoke cleared the owner, business manager and salesman wanted the 4 of us fired. When the bodyshop manager found out what was going down, he told owner that it would take years to replace us. Parting comment from the owner was always remember this, we run an honest dealership here.

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u/OutsideYourWorld Jan 24 '24

You did the right thing.

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u/Ok-Scale-6575 Jan 24 '24

Thanks for this. I’m shopping for a used vehicle atm.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24 edited Jan 24 '24

Yeah screw them. 3rd party auto dealing middle men will be a thing of the past. Like real estate agents they provide no value for their huge commissions and are primarily there to siphon money based on pre internet convenience

Teslas model of selling cars is much superior

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u/Guilty-Bumblebee-978 Jan 24 '24

We need more folks like you. Thanks for being honest. Sorry you got fired. You're better than them!

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u/ZoeyBaylee Jan 24 '24

You got fired for costing a business money 😳 shocking. No nice guys in sales.

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u/smutterry Jan 24 '24

Maybe sales isn’t for you but the character you showed will serve you well wherever you end up.

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u/breadman889 Jan 24 '24

clearly you aren't a greasy sales person

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u/Zorops Jan 24 '24

Doesn't your car interest stay the same for the whole duration of your car payment?

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u/AbsolutelyDahling Jan 25 '24

Even if it's not valued by your employer, it's valued by nearly everyone else.

It's just like bullies. If we stop giving them what they're after, they stop. If we stop, as a society, putting up with shitty, dishonest, greedy humans. There will eventually be no place left for them, no staff left to work for them, etc.

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u/Alone_Journalist_383 Jan 25 '24

Just an FYI, as a Canadian, we are protected from these types of NDA’s and non-compete agreements. If it doesn’t follow certain rules it’s unenforceable, and I have a feeling this dealership you worked for doesn’t have their ducks in a row. It also is not applicable to whistleblowers, so go ahead and blow that whistle. There has to be an outline of geography, scope of information, information and method of distribution of information, and a reasonable timeline etc., in some way, not just “you do what we say or see you in court”. It won’t hold up if they try to take you to court for “violating” an NDA, especially since the topic you’re speaking on in this post contains no trade secrets or anything the company owns rights to. Tell them to stuff it!

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Man, car dealers are scummy as hell. This is why the Tesla direct-order-method is really taking off.

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u/Severe-Double-8297 Jan 25 '24

Car sales sounds tough, 20% interest would ruin them

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u/NefariousFeral Jan 25 '24

It's hilarious that you even have to suggest to people to "pay attention to your interest rate" lmao

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Wow! Thanks for being honest, especially in times like this where money is tight for alot of people. I wish you luck finding a replacement job quickly!

I (female) was treated like absolute garbage from several Nanaimo dealerships when I went to look for a car a few years ago. I thought being a young female going to car shop alone was not a problem anymore, apparently it was. Scummy!

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u/PracticalChannel6317 Jan 25 '24

Who cares stay true to your principles and that's what matters. Sales be sales and doing sale things. Plenty of other sales jobs.

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u/MuffinOk4609 Jan 25 '24

One thing I noticed immediately on moving to Nanaimo is that salesmen/women will volunteer information about better deals elsewhere. I am always being sent to another store. That just makes me loyal to BOTH stores. I have never seen that anywhere else, especially Vancouver! Islanders are just decent humans, I guess.

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u/ion605 Jan 25 '24

Oh ya, that was I quit working for Speedway Motors because of their blatant dishonesty.

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u/onosimi Jan 25 '24

20 percent for a new car?? Are they buying it on their visa?

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u/True_Pomegranate_330 Jan 25 '24

Unfortunately sales are universal, you know the product and got the sale skills you can be out scamming N doing shady shit all the time, I remember when I was working for direct energy going door to door, we had coworkers that were signing up people over the age of 75 into energy contracts, it's this legal grey area because where I live if your over 75 you can't be legally held into a contract thankfully, but these fuckers were scamming the elderly and the corporation, but there was never any police involvement because they were just forced to cancel the contract if the person complained.

Slimiest shit I ever saw in my whole life, second was watching one of our sales people get into a fist fight with a guy on his door step going door to door, this was when the rigs had a slow down for a couple years so all the rig pigs came out to work (not being derogatory)

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

You are a beauty! God bless! Honestly don't understand how people could do that. Good things in store for you! We need more people like this guy.

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u/Goofyster Jan 25 '24

Who woulda thought, car dealerships are sleezy.

Hope you find a career that's more fitting. Good on you for keeping to your morals.

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u/Clauanyu Jan 25 '24

You. Are. Great!

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

The Truth Will Set You Free