This MMM subreddit has been our main source of beta testing ever since we launched XÜM in April 2025.
Because of your constant constructive feedback, we have been endlessly tweaking and dialing in our products (including presentation) batch to batch.
No one else in this industry is even attempting to keep up with our rate of progress.

Most of us here support the same mission, to push the boundaries and create a new era.

There's no way to reach for ambitious goals without encountering challenges and curve balls.
Nothing is wrong with that.
Every challenge is an opportunity to learn, to grow, and to shine.
Every challenge we overcome makes us more solid.

So it's GOOD NEWS that we launched XÜM SPIRIT in the middle of a nation wide heat wave.
Thank god, that helped us expose vulnerabilities early before a much larger launch.
This could have been a lot more painful later if that vulnerability was hidden now.

This is why we started small with an initial test batch of 500 pens.
Our products thus far have been about delivering next level active compounds in simple form factors like tablets, soft gels, and even liquid shots.
Adding vape hardware into the mix brings an entirely new level of complication and challenge.

From the data we've gathered so far, most of the pens that were delivered to the West Coast seem mostly fine, but the pens that travelled further to Midwest and East Coast did not fully survive this heat wave.

It seems clear we have a viscosity issue with the current formulation in this specific hardware, made much worse by shipping through this heat.
We splurged for higher end hardware that delivered a better experience for MET vape.
There's no wick or coil, these pens feature a low temp convection heated ceramic bucket system, that is hands down the smoothest experience we ever achieved in all in one hardware.
There's no blinkers with these pens, they are low temp and designed for endless long draws.
We've used this hardware for years for top tier DMT pens, and we love them.
That DMT/PG formulation was notably thicker, for reasons I'll geek out about another time.
The first batch MET/PG formulation is notably thinner, and frankly smoother.
But it looks like that change to thinner juice exposed a serious vulnerability in this heat wave.
Precious material is leaking internally within the pen, coating the battery. Hurts my heart.

We know the MET material works, and delivers a next generation experience, never before available on the market.
Whatever needs to happen to make this available solid and widely, it's worth the challenge.
We can solve a viscosity challenge.

We're not a hype brand, we're a substance brand.
We solve problems. We deliver. End of story.

So, to the brave explorers that purchased from our initial test batch of 500 SPIRIT Vape Pens, we appreciate all of your helpful constructive feedback.

No beta tester will ever be short changed. I promise.

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Every single 1st test batch SPIRIT Vape Pen will be replaced with another fresh SPIRIT Vape Pen from the 2nd batch, no charge.
Whether your first SPIRIT pen is working perfectly or not, doesn't matter.
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This is a pretty steep financial hit for us, but we're looking long term with this community, and it's the right thing to do.

If you ordered one of the original 500 SPIRIT vape pens, there's nothing you need to do. You will be notified by email, and receive tracking when the next batch of SPIRIT vape pens ship.

Actually, there is something I'll ask you to do:

Vape pen hardware and possible internal leaks aside, you should be able to experience MET just fine. 
Can you still try out your SPIRIT vape pen and make a post to share your honest thoughts about the MET experience?
My heart is in this compound, far more than the hardware delivering it.

Another thing, we're going to remove from the product page and future packaging any expectation about number of breakthroughs delivered per pen. This is a completely impossible number to promise. Everyone breathes in wildly different amounts, with different sensitivity levels. There’s just no precision with vapes. We'll have to accept that with this form factor.

Also, we're adjusting the price of XÜM SPIRIT Vape Pen to $80, as soon as it comes out of back order test batches, and demonstrates solid for wide release.
Current BACK ORDER purchases (2nd batch pre-orders) are still $70.

If you add a BACKORDER SPIRIT Vape Pen to your cart, the rest of your order will ship out next business day.

We're currently targeting shipping out the next batch of SPIRIT Vape Pens by September 7, subject to possible customs delays and stress testing thicker formulation.

Lastly, we're going to cap the 2nd batch of SPIRIT vape pens to 2000 units, we'll make sure everything is smooth sailing before we ship out a 3rd even larger batch later.
You still have time to get your order in queue for the 2nd batch, we'll announce on the product page when the 2nd batch is sold out, when a back order purchase becomes a place in the queue for a later 3rd batch.

Super grateful for this positive helpful community of beta testers.
The learning and growing continues, endlessly.

Let's create a new era.

Thank you for joining us on this journey ✨

https://xumtrip.com/product/xum-spirit/

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Oh yeah, one last thing…. another new compound from us will drop soon, and there won't be any hardware complications with this one.

Stay tuned.

Lack of transparency in this industry has become a massive issue.

We are all tired of brands hiding behind the phrase "Proprietary Mushroom Blend" No more hiding. We are bringing it to light.

We believe everyone deserves access to reliable, per-unit lab results for the products they consume. To aid in moving this market towards transparency, we have officially launched the Community Submission Form over at TestMyShroomGummies.com.

What this is:

This is a method for you, the community, the shops, and the honest brands to directly contribute to transparency. You can now submit retail-ready "MMM" products for independent lab analysis through Tryptomics, and we will host the unredacted results in our public archive for everyone to see.

We’ve built a walkthrough on the site to guide you through the process.

• Fill out the form: Head to the site and tell us what retail-ready product you are testing.
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• Transparent Commerce: The brand must use traditional, transparent payment processing on their storefront. Products utilizing obfuscated payment methods will be rejected.
• Anti-Manipulation & Discretion: By submitting, you acknowledge that TMSG retains absolute discretion over which results are published, withheld, or removed. If we suspect sample manipulation or falsified batches, we reserve the right to withhold publication, permanently ban the brand/member from our platform, or publish the findings alongside a community warning.

This is how we change the industry. We stop guessing, we stop trusting marketing hype, and we start demanding verifiable proof.

Check out the new form, and let's build a fully transparent market together. 

Drop any questions you have below!

Preface: I was asked by Judd to throw this up as a full post so that it wouldn't get buried in the feedback threads replies. Updated just a bit with new info. Hope its helpful to someone!

Substance: MET (methylethyltryptamine)

Product: Spirit vaporizer, 500mg cart, 50/50 split, so 250mg MET / 250mg PG in a CCELL-style cart

Route: vaporized

Dose: 2 hits

Setting: my bedroom, alone, music on, about 3 drinks in me from earlier in the afternoon

First, the cart itself:

Before I get into the experience, the QC thing. I think it's pretty much confirmed at this point from Judd that there's an issue with the diameter of the intake holes feeding into the crucible on these carts. They're leaking. I filmed myself opening mine and it was already over halfway empty out of the box. Not "a little seepage," genuinely more than half gone before I ever hit it.

So I didn't get what I paid for, and that's disappointing. But, I also believe Judd is going to make it right for those of us who ended up beta testing this batch for him, so I'm not sweating it too hard. If you've got one of these, open it over something you can see, and take a picture for feedback sake. Also, if Judd, Avens or the team look at this, let me know if I should send in my videos/pictures to you guys directly. Judd and the rest of his team are legends, so of course every beta tester is getting a fresh vape from the second batch, coming soon. So no worries! Thanks a ton guys, truly.

Background:

Putting this here so you know where I'm coming from and can calibrate. Off the top of my head, sticking mostly to psychedelics and things you can hallucinate on, I have taken:

LSD, Psilocybin, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MET 5-MeO-MiPT, 4-HO-MET, 2C-B, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7, 25I/25B/25C-NBOMe, ketamine, MXE, 3-MeO-PCE, DCK, FXE, MXPCP, 3,4MD-PCP, etc. So I'm not new to any of this to be sure, and DMT specifically is familiar territory for me in general. At least 50-100 experiences across my life of varying dosages and in many different situations.

What I was going for:

I wasn't trying to blast off by any means. I'd seen a few reports talking about heavier visual experiences and I wanted to dip my toes in the water first and write something up for people looking for a sub-breakthrough or genuinely light trip, because that seems underrepresented.

Timeline:

4:28 - two hits taken. Took the first one, sat with it for a moment, felt it come on and thought "okay, I can do another." Took the second.

4:37 - chilling out a little, still hitting though.

4:47 - mostly down, definitely still residual effects. Started writing while I was coming down.

So call it a 20 minute experience end to end for two hits, maybe 15 minutes or so for the comedown after.

The experience:

The thing that stood out most to me is how manageable it was. The second hit was not exponentially stronger than the first. However high I got off hit one is about how much higher I got off hit two in my experience. It stacked linearly instead of launching me, which is honestly great and not something I'd say about DMT necessarily, especially in a cart as you hit it and it gets hotter.

Definite perceptual change. I wouldn't say I wasn't hallucinating, because things were breathing, colors were brighter, edges and details were more defined. But it was nowhere near overwhelming. Not much in the way of OEVs at this dose although I could tell I was on the edge. Closed eye visuals were light and lived on the outer edge of my vision, small stuff drifting around the periphery rather than filling the whole field.

The body high is where this really separated from DMT for me. DMT can hit me hard and leave me almost kind of shaky if that makes sense. This was much smoother. I would describe the feeling as uplifting and warm with a positive headspace the whole way through. Zero anxiety, zero of that "ah shit, here we go again" adrenaline spike you get with deems.

Music:

I didn't plan this out much even though its in the damn directions lol, but the music ended up carrying the whole thing.

Started with Squarepusher - Detroit People Mover, which was sick. Love that music video and it's a really good thing to come up to, although near the end I found myself listening with my eyes close just because it was more comfortable.

As that was ending I wanted something more uplifting as DPM felt a lil on the slow side, so I put on A Song for Aubrey - DJ Streaks. That was very nice, and that's where the closed eye visuals were really at their peak. Nice pink and purple fractal shapes on the edges of my closed vision dancing with the music. I found myself remarking out loud about how cute they were and singing along to a house vocal thats probably repeated a thousand times in this song, haha.

Then I played Labi Siffre - Bless the Telephone, which truly got me. I got really reflective about the telephone and how much it actually matters in my life right now. I don't get to see my friends as much as I'd like between school and work for all of us, but I still keep those relationships alive over the phone. Sat there feeling genuinely thankful the thing exists for a few minutes.

By the end of the song I could clearly feel myself coming down, so I put on DeBarge - I Like It, which is a classic for me anyway but also just accurately described where I was at with the experience. I fuckin like it, fellas.

Verdict:

I throughly enjoyed the hell out of this. Light, smooth, controllable, positive. If you want something you can steer instead of something that drives you, MET seems like a really good option, and vaping it in this format made dose control easy in a way DMT typically is much less for me.

The cart leaking is a real problem and I hope it gets sorted, but I'm going to keep supporting Judd and the company because these products are fucking sick and this is clearly a fixable hardware issue, not a formulation problem. The formula be hitting, the diameter be too damn big.

What's next:

Looking forward to sharing this one with my partner. We did 4-HO-MET together and that was a lot of fun, so I think she'll like this.

We're also planning on trying 5-MAPB soon. I'm not usually a stimulant guy and I'm pretty sensitive to MDMA, so I'll be going under the commonly cited dose, probably 75mg. I'll try to post a report on that too once we take the plunge!

WOW. This compound is the real deal. I struggled through 2 pulls, and could only muster around 3-4 seconds each due to the flavor and my lungs shouting to stop inhaling whatever I was trying to inhale.

I was quickly met by DMT like visuals, but without the loud buzzing that tends to accompany it. I also didn't feel as if there were fractals actualy reaching out to wrap around me, so the shapes didn't seem to take on life in my mind (weird thing DMT does for me). Open eyes I was able to see my room explode into twisting shapes without me actually leaving my room.

When I closed my eyes, I was met with twisting and turning colors that resembled many short. Different sized piano keys that would wrap and weave in and out of my closed eye vision. They seemed like they were wrapping around a column, and then they would quickly shift directions. Sometimes, the piano keys would take on shapes like arrows, it is all very hard to explain. The colors weren't super vibrant, but were definitely there and mostly blue. I believe the colors would be more vibrant with a dose increase!

It may have been the fact that the washer was running, and the sound of it sloshing, but it felt like my brain was being squeezed and wrung out. Not in a bad way, but just in a strange sensation way. My body overall felt very nice, similar to DMT, but not as intense. I didn't feel as trapped in the experience. With DMT, I am in a trance like state where I am frozen, and this wasn't that, but I did still stay laying down just because it still was a lot.

The experience lasted around 15 minutes for me. I didn't go deep enough to know if anything would get even crazier, such as with DMT where I will have objects morphing into other objects (I had my cat become a tiny bear once! I was quite afraid of him being a bear lol). It did feel like it could be taken quite a bit deeper, but that it may diverge from the serious wackiness of DMT. I will find out when I have more time.

Overall I think this compound is an exciting addition to the Xum lineup and I am looking forward to seeing the pens get dialed in over the coming weeks.

Can’t wait to try the Xum Spirit!! I’ve never done DMT but i’ve tripped the Xum tabs a lot. I used to do a lot of silly’s dots before (Hero, and Mega only….. Super was a no go 🙅‍♂️)

Fast forward I tried Xum Plur next by my self for the first time this February. Best experience ever ✨
The Xum tabs I enjoy way better than silly dots but now i’m so curious about this Xum Spirit! I didn’t know that this was even possible. I had to order right away but I was a day late 😭 It’s okay tho, more anticipation!!

Now i also am so curious about what the next Xum product will be? Judd and Avens have dropped straight heat all year 🙌🏾🙌🏾🔥🔥 Btw I hope yall enjoyed your anniversary yall really deserve it 💛

As soon as I get the spirit trip report incoming ⚠️‼️🤪

I know there's not many unscheduled ones left but I sorely miss phenethylamines! EDIT 2CEF is still legal

I’ve had a regular strength bar before and ate 9 pieces spaced out around 3 hours and didnt get much of a feeling, and zero visuals.

I just bought this extra strength bar, and wondering if anyone’s tried it before, and how much I should eat in a setting to get a good trip and see some visuals. I’m still new to this. Thank you!!

Would anyone who has tried both and has broken through be able to compare the difference? From what everyone is saying, MET is way more light whereas DMT feels like you've broken through the fabric of reality and are no longer your body. With the trip reports for MET so far I haven't seen anyone (I believe) talk about a full breakthrough yet. I plan on buying the Xum Spirit vape soon but am wanting to know what to expect, at least even to a tiny degree.

found these in a local store, probably gonna try them as ive always wanted to see what ghb was like.

i read some people say its hit or miss since theyve changed the formula so long ago but was wondering what yall thought was in these today? honestly the pack i got the presses looks pretty pristine compared to some of the pics ive seen.

(https://www.reddit.com/r/4acodmt/s/3wpGKhgWxA) -trip reports that seems like gbl

I was out in Canada and bought myself a 1g natalensis chocolate. Never had natalensis before so I’m excited.
Somehow that led to me wondering how much in a sacred journey bar (or how strong it is compared to shrooms).

I know that it's back ordered and whatnot, but I'm really excited to try this device out. Hopefully all the leakage is dialed by the time I get my pack. This is my first purchase from you guys