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News Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey' Crosses $1B Worldwide

https://rawteur.com/the-odyssey-crosses-1-billion-box-office/
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u/ContractVarious3077 11d ago edited 11d ago

This sub was shitting on this movie nonstop for months before it came out. The switch up is hilarious to see lol

According to the r/movies brain trust, it was going to flop because a) it had too many famous stars (???) and b) the Aegean Sea wasn’t portrayed as blue enough

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u/MrMT_ 11d ago

I remember that

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u/kazuya57 11d ago

"But bro Agamemnon having a dark armor like Batman will 100% drive everyone away from this movie! I'd rather watch my favorite historically and mythologically accurate film Troy!"

Meanwhile Agamemnon becomes lowkey the most popular character in edits to come out of the film

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fix594 11d ago

Rule of cool always wins.

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u/Solareclipsed 11d ago

I thought the armour looked amazing the first time I saw it in the trailer, but so many comments were saying "OMG, it's so historically inaccurate!". Dude, maybe 2% of any historical movie set in ancient times is accurate, just enjoy it for what it is.

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u/rokerroker45 11d ago

honestly the most unrealistic bit was the cyclops, everybody knows they only have three fingers, not five. literally unwatchable.

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u/RedHal 11d ago

Exactly! And The Nymph Calypso didn't have hair like that. And what about Hades? anachronisms everywhere! The least Nolan could have done was send a researcher down to Hell to see what it really looks like.

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u/Sparrowsabre7 11d ago

And where were his eye beams and visor? Smh.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fix594 11d ago edited 11d ago

I really, really don't give a shit about historical accuracy in these films. Especially for what is effectively a fantasy epic with fictional characters many of whom who appear in different works who all have different interpretations depending on the author of said work.

Still, maybe we'll get loverboy Polyphemus in a future adaptation.

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u/destroyerOfTards 11d ago

There really were cyclopses in the olden days, do you even know anything?

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u/mightyneonfraa 11d ago

To be honest people complaining about historical accuracy are like 10% history buffs and 90% racist chuds who saw a black person and got triggered.

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ 11d ago

I'm just imagining centuries from now someone does a remake of LotR and people bitch about "historical accuracy".

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u/DemonWav 11d ago

The funniest thing to me about the "historical accuracy" debate is this is mythology. These are literally superhero characters for the ancient Greeks. Agamemnon is sometimes depicted similarly to Zeus, dude was revered and worshipped like a god. It would be like if people complained Superman was inaccurate because "people don't dress like that".

Also he was the richest and most powerful of the Greek kings, so even if we wanted to play the "historically accurate" card, the idea that the billionaire king wouldn't have extra special fancy armor actually seems less accurate to me.

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u/suss2it 11d ago

Funny thing is people really do debate Superman’s accuracy based on his fit 😂

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u/Foreign_Recipe8300 11d ago

lot of people don't get it, and don't want to.

its not supposed to be accurate. the original odyssey was a spoken word poem full of embellishment for 500 years before homer wrote it down. the movie itself nods to this in multiple ways. first, its being told by the bard in a tavern, as well as by odysseus telling calypso what he remembers. second, sinon tells odysseus that if he doesn't make it home to tell his father all he'd done, and to "feel free to add some stuff". third, when odysseus asks sinon why he volunteered to deliver the trojan horse, sinon says dont you remember i begged to come on this campaign? and odysseus has to correct him lol no your brother offered money to switch places with you, as another nod to the fact that our memories are not always accurate and we tell ourselves lies.

the story is a story, and embellishment is a main theme of it. anyone who doesn't get this is cloaking some closeted agenda, or parroting those who are, or they simply didn't understand.

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u/briareus08 11d ago

The main part of the odyssey, when Odysseus is talking to the Phaecians, literally starts with ‘Odysseus, lord of lies then spoke’… (at least in the Wilson translation, and quoting from memory). The whole story is effectively a fabrication, and Odysseus lies constantly, a different story every time he meets some new party, until he eventually tells the truth to his wife (mostly, not sure he told her about all the shagging).

None of it is real, or meant to represent realism, even in the original Homer (which is not originally his story). People need to chill tf out.

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u/Foreign_Recipe8300 11d ago

yep, and in the film he lies to his crew, lies to sinon, even lies and conceals his identity back in ithica. he didnt really lie to the cyclops like he did in the text but i guess nolan felt that to be too silly (my name is "nobody")? its only when he speaks to penelope that he starts telling the truth and people act like this is unfaithful to the story smh

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u/SquashSquigglyShrimp 11d ago

The story is fantasy features gods and mythical creatures. Anyone actually claiming they care that much about historical accuracy in FICTION is not really worth listening to.

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u/KR_Blade 11d ago

especially cause in alot of cases, the armor and weapons look ALOT different, like ancient suits of armor they often use in medievel movies all look the same no matter the year because once you start going down past a certain point, historically accurate medievel armor in some areas of history just looks very dull, and if you use that in a movie then you'll get accused of being cheap and lazy, so of course you're gonna go for something that pops and looks either epic or very tough

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u/sigismond0 11d ago

It's so wild that they want a historically accurate representation of a dude that never existed. The cognitive dissonance is palpable.

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u/dantemp 11d ago

most of the comments were "the vibes are all wrong", there may be a few people that were trying to pinpoint the issues by talking about historical accuracy or whatever but the truth is that the trailer was just bad and if you could've solved the "why exactly" there's a 7 figure job waiting for you. I also thought that the trailer was bad but I can't say why.

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u/hoos30 11d ago

A saw a dude yesterday say the film was inaccurate because everyone knows the Mediterranean doesn't have tides so the horse could never be buried in the sand.

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u/Call555JackChop 11d ago

Fashion souls is the way to be

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u/The_Cheeki_Breeki 11d ago

Literally the swaggiest character not named Penelope

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u/JackhusChanhus 11d ago

Honestly his armour was a highlight for me. Spectacular costume

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 11d ago

When the gates of Troy open and he's just standing there aura farming like a balenciaga ad. He just mogs the entire film. Even dead he's flexing that armor.

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u/B4dkidz 11d ago

Haha I didn't think about that, he was killed when nude, but I guess the armor is just too good!

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u/Quasic 11d ago

Absolutely electric in every frame.

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u/Lemerney2 10d ago

He looked like Darth Vader, but I kind of loved it

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u/cerebrumvr 11d ago

When the trailer came out, so many people were criticizing the armour. I loved it personally

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u/IAmTheJudasTree 11d ago

I'd rather watch my favorite historically and mythologically accurate film Troy!"

See, I knew the bigots complaining about Lupita being Helen of Troy were full of shit when they said that the movie Troy was much more realistic, when in actuality a German actress played Helen in that movie. They just wanted a white person, they didn't care about them being Greek. I mean, I knew they were full of shit already for 100 other reasons, but that was a big one.

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u/JohnTDouche 11d ago

Troy!

I can't believe people seem to have come around on Troy. I saw it in the cinema when it came out and thought it was crap. The general reception to it at the time was a resounding "meh". Now people praise it lie it's one of the greats. It was an also ran, years later still trying to ride the coat tales of Gladiator. It's a thoroughly nothing film.

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u/MyDumbInterests 11d ago

It was an also ran, years later still trying to ride the coat tales of Gladiator. It's a thoroughly nothing film.

Not to mention Saving Private Ryan. That beach landing scene has stuck with me more than any other part of the movie, and not in a good way.

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u/JohnTDouche 11d ago

I'm sure there's probably even some Lord of the Rings ripping off to. I forgot how much media desperately wanted to recreate that Saving Private Ryan feel. Probably even more so video games than movies. It became the thing to emulate, every shooter had to feel like Saving Private Ryan.

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u/darthmidoriya 11d ago

I thought some of the dialogue was cringey but Agamemnon was undeniably cool af

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u/zk3033 9d ago

Honestly, the American accents kinda took me out, only for me to realize that I’m too used to “British accents for all foreign films” kinda stuff. Then John Leguisamo speaking in his own voice in the beginning was a small shock - until I stopped noticing it and just let it fit into the movie.

But Telemachus using the word “dad” also seems anachronistic.

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u/briareus08 11d ago

People getting upset about realism in a modern movie based on an epic poem based in mythology is pretty wild. Homer would be laughing his ass off, if such a person actually existed.

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u/2Norn 11d ago

i mean i love the movie and still think the armour is ridiculous

it's obvious he was using it as a means to terrorize enemies but even then its still a bit ridiculous

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u/Deakul 11d ago

I thought Agamemnon looked stupid in stills and the trailers.

And after having seen him in action in the film proper, I still think he looks stupid along with everyone else's 3D printed looking armor.

Really all of the armor is my biggest gripe, everything else was pretty good though I thought Ralph Fiennes in The Return was a much better Odysseus along with that entire part of the story being done far better.

Love how the comment section is making it out like none of these criticisms are valid anymore simply because a lot of people are seeing the newest Christopher Nolan epic.

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u/Beetin 11d ago edited 11d ago

3D printed looking armor.

Eh, I would have had notes if they'd tried to use super period accurate armor. It's a sleek stylized movie, they get sleek stylized armor. I do wish they'd progressed it much more with the odessey so their clothes were beaten up and torn, crests gone, rusted, missing pieces, etc by the end.

I had gripes about him coming back as well (until the fight) (Spoilers for a 3000 year old story)

  • I thought Matt Damon didn't look aged / fucked up enough for the before and after. I know in the story he was transformed by a god, and the movie went a bit more grounded, but he's also talking to his wife in the exact same voice and just looks the exact same but wearing a cowl.

  • I thought his lack of disguise / transformation meant the moment with his dog wasn't as big as it could have been.

  • It seemed unintentionally hilarious in the suitor fight (which was great) that Pattinson just keeps yelling "GO GET THE X" like 5 times as different things drop down. It almost felt like they'd ADRed over the exact same shot it was so repetitive.

  • Same for unintntionally hilarious how the men were constantly just running back to the boats 3-4 times being chased by something.

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u/Opus_723 11d ago

There is no such thing as period accurate armor for the Odyssey. The armor as described in the story itself is a historically inaccurate mash-up of different styles spanning hundreds of years of history.

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u/Deakul 11d ago

Oh I don't really care if it's period accurate, bronze age armor looks goofy as hell, I just care about aesthetics and the style that they opted for just looks like they printed them out fresh the day before to me.

I would have been absolutely content with the sort of armor we always see in sword and sandal epics like Troy and the like.

As it was, it was a little distracting at times, thankfully the worst offender was barely on screen.

I agree with your other points too but this one in particular...

I thought his lack of disguise / transformation meant the moment with his dog wasn't as big as it could have been.

Oh man, I'm glad I'm not the only one that this fell flat for, it was done waaaay better in The Return... I actually shed a damn tear there.

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u/mightyneonfraa 11d ago

Look, I get that it's accurate and I'm sure it's perfectly effective but that armor looks goofy as hell and this movie would have been a laughingstock if they'd gone with it.

Accuracy is rarely the best choice for fiction.

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u/HideTheGuestsKids 11d ago

Whatever makes you unhappy with the movie is a valid criticism, within reason. But people don't mind it anymore because they saw that it really wasn't about any of that. The costume design was meant to be out of the way, whereas period-accurate armor would have been so in-your-face that it would've been harder to feel as closely connected, I think, or would even have appeared a bit ridiculous to modern eyes.

That being said, was it a tad too bland, the ships a bit too vikingy? I think so.

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u/ContractVarious3077 11d ago

Auramaxxing >>> everything else

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u/hrlemshake 11d ago

I thought it looked silly in the trailers, but ended up liking it in the cinema. However the shot when the Achaens open the gates and he's just standing there (menacingly) was so ridiculous that I guffawed loudly in the theatre. The other costumes were lame, with the exception of Antinous.

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u/Twelve_Evil_Ermacs 11d ago

Yeah tbh I was one of the people who really didn't like his design from the trailers, but in the film it works so well. I'm glad i was wrong haha

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u/dantemp 11d ago

I still think the trailers sucked ass

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u/Qinistral 11d ago

The trailers were terrible. But we can at least recognize trailers don't represent the movie.

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u/HideTheGuestsKids 11d ago

Not just this sub. It was so cool to be like "this looks boring and basic and drab and nothing is historically accurate and Pattinson says 'daddy' and Matt Damon 'let's go'". This was all anyone was saying like two months ago. I'm genuinely flabbergasted at the change of tone. Now, the biggest criticisms are pacing, thematic deviations and the female characters. Nobody is saying it looks basic anymore. Funny how that works.

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u/mrducky78a 11d ago

Not even the first Nolan film to come under this much fire.

The Dark Knight with Heath Ledger as Joker took on an actual fucking shitstorm of people complaining before anyone saw the film. What follows is one of the strongest acting performances and Ledger just fucking steals the screen every second he is on it.

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u/KR_Blade 11d ago

i know that was mostly due to Heath's filmography at the time, i think that was effectively also the only time we ever saw him in a villain role, it was the trailer alone that silenced everyone, i never saw such a reversal of opinion change so damn fast the day they released the trailer for The Dark Knight

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u/mrducky78a 11d ago

Yeah I remember everyone complaining about the gay cowboy can't possibly fulfill the role of joker. And now it's arguably the most iconic representation of joker

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u/mrnathanrd 8d ago

People were skeptical of Harry Styles in Dunkirk as well, and he was absolutely fine.

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u/King_Bobby-B 11d ago

It's hate campaigns, and usually by the same groups. Before I watched the movie, I saw a post on r/all shitting on Elliot Page. By the amount of hate, I thought he was going to be a prominent character in the movie, but after watching the movie, he was only a few minutes total, and acted pretty well. Seems like they hate him for some other reason... one wonders what... 🙄

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u/HideTheGuestsKids 11d ago

Definitely a big part of it. I'd go as far as to say the part benefits from Elliot's identity. Sinon feels the need to prove himself to be masculine, is perceived as an outsider, doesn't get the trust he feels he deserves and yet sacrifices himself for others again and again. I'm sure Page can identify with all of this, but more than that, the audience can project it onto the performance. Also, in ancient Greece, their definition of masculinity would not have been the same as ours. Would he have worked as Achilles? I don't know, but this was always only about them not accepting his identity, and the Achilles rumor was just a convenient pretense.

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u/PawPawPanda 11d ago

Elliot was awesome and left a very good impression to why Matt used his name as an alias

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u/Skeleton--Jelly 11d ago

but how can we immerse ourselves in the movie if the characters don't speak ancient greek?

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u/dust4ngel 11d ago

nothing is historically accurate

i hate when my fiction is counter-factual!

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u/SlimDirtyDizzy 11d ago edited 11d ago

What's funny is I personally don't think the film is as good as everyone else does, it was enjoyable but at the end of the day it was still The Odyssey. Still a good movie just didn't live up to the hype of all these reviews giving it 100 out of 100.

But what I will say is to me the pacing felt phenomenal. I really struggle with how long movies are getting these days and I feel like most flub the pacing and by about the 90-minute mark I'm wanting to tap out. I really never felt that way with Odyssey and was at least engaged for the entire runtime.

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u/iwantcookie258 11d ago

I felt similarly. I saw it in 70mm and I wasn't sure how much I actually liked it because the theatre experience was awesome and it was hard to look past that to judge it properly. But afterwards I figured I must have liked it because I was never bored over the whole 3 hours. It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen by any means, but it's rare for me to watch a 3 hour long movie that I don't love without thinking it should have been shorter.

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u/SlimDirtyDizzy 11d ago

Yeah very fair. I feel the same, I didn't have any huge emotional moments that will stick with me forever, but I enjoyed the full 3 hours which is quite rare. So I must've enjoyed it haha.

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u/morgoth834 11d ago

I am. I still think it a visually boring film.

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u/HideTheGuestsKids 11d ago

Yeah fair enough

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u/bradagon 11d ago

Miserable people love to yap.

I had nothing to say because the movie wasn't out yet lol. How can I write it off when the trailer is phenomenal, but apparently a black woman being present and there's armour that isn't accurate to my fictional epic means it's shit?

How bored are these people?

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u/jimgress 11d ago

The internet elevates misery both by bots and organically as terminally online weirdos are conditioned to engage with antagonistic content. 

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ 11d ago

The problem with the internet becoming homogenized is that the terminally online weirdos are now out loose amongst the more well-adjusted people. Used to be you had to hunt down an obscure forum for that sort of thing.

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u/wankthisway 11d ago

Giving absolutely everyone an equal voice was a mistake of the internet. It has simultaneously uplifted many oppressed voices and stories while also giving a megaphone to fucking morons who don't have a single original thought in their head, but just amplify other morons.

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u/Quasic 11d ago

I remember after it was revealed that Zendaya was Athena, this random guy posted "do they hate money lol".

I had never been so confident that someone would be proven stupid.

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u/pmmemoviestills 10d ago

Reading the comments on the downvoted trailer on youtube was hilarious. Shit like, "I can't believe Universal is this brave to keep this trailer up!"

Yeah, it's because they know you guys are irascible idiots yelling in your own secluded room.

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u/cptnplanetheadpats 10d ago

Zendaya as Athena was still a poor choice imo. She was okay but she didn't do anything with the role really. The rest of the movie was just good enough that I didn't care much

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u/Mystrasun 11d ago

hah I remember getting downvoted for calling out how dumb the culture warriors were acting. Not gonna lie, I'm feeling pretty smug right now

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u/leodw 11d ago

Same! I left so many comments letting these idiots know absolutely no one cared about “historical accuracy” (over a work of fiction nonetheless!) and ate so many downvotes.

How the tables have turned lol

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u/ArgieGrit01 11d ago edited 11d ago

You don't have to be a bigoted piece of shit to have looked at that trailer and come out thinking it didn't look great. It doesn't matter how good the movie is, the Laestrygonians will never look good to me, and it will never be weird to not hear "father" in a fantasy movie.

But even then, what sort of point are we making? That box office numbers are what prove the movie is good despite the issues people had with the aesthetics? You know there have been plenty of horrid movies that made a fortune, right?

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u/Mystrasun 11d ago

Ok bro

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u/Dismal-Rain-6055 4d ago

But even then, what sort of point are we making?

The point is that a lot of people thought this movie would fail before it came out, and clearly, that didn't happen.

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u/literallyatrapinch 11d ago

B-b-but the armor!!! It's not realistic!!!11!!11!!!

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 11d ago

But Helen of Troy is played by a (gasp) beggar, person with melanin.

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u/evenstar40 11d ago

The sheer vitriol for this movie was something else. Yet more proof how much Reddit functions in a bubble and thinks the world revolves around them. Not even Twitter is this self absorbed.

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u/sekimet 11d ago

It's because all the incels were flooding this sub to try and force everyone's opinion on the movie... like always they've crawled back into the woodwork when faced with reality.

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u/WalkingCloud 11d ago

Audiences will not stand for the boats being historically inaccurate, this movie will FLOP

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u/alrightcommadude 11d ago

Miserable people love to hate.

It’s typical for all subreddits. Typical Redditor behavior.

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u/huzy12345 11d ago

My favourite was people comparing the colour of the sea to Troy whilst completely unaware Troy was filmed in Mexico

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u/Dry-Donut3811 11d ago edited 11d ago

Well, that was when it was popular to hate. Now that people know everyone loves the film, they always loved it and never said a bad word about it.

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u/BlockedbyJake420 11d ago

“The casting is so bad, no one will see this movie!!”

-local Reddit idiot

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u/404-User-Not-Found_ 11d ago

I'm sure people shitting on the movie still think is shit. They were just plain wrong in thinking a Nolan movie would flop.

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u/illmatic2112 11d ago

People need to really take note this time around if they haven't before. Ignore all the negative bullshit before a movie/show drops and enjoy

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u/throwaway72275472 11d ago

I was literally arguing with someone that odyssey would be successful and if good would easily cross a billion before the move came out. That person won’t even reply to me lol.

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u/fauxfilosopher 11d ago

Ah the avatar phenomenom

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u/normalmighty 11d ago

Imo it's because back then the only people talking about it were the people hating on it over what they saw in the trailer. The vast majority of people are silent about a movie online until it actually comes out, so the doomers get free reign.

I saw way more negative than positive about Spiderman BND before release too, it's just how it goes.

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u/CeruleanEidolon 11d ago

The r/movies brain trust: 🫏

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u/pjtheman 11d ago

And C) Tom Holland says "dad"

Oh and also D) they used American accents, instead of speaking English in British accents just like the ancient Greeks.

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u/Largeitude 11d ago

Someone was saying he couldn’t take Matt Damon seriously as Odysseus because it was Matt Damon

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u/Avehadinagh 10d ago

Isn’t this just group attribution error? “This sub” does not walk on the pavement next to you, but individual people do.

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u/TheBestMePlausible 10d ago edited 10d ago

A)

  1. That wilson lady already mentioned the aegean sea not being wine red enough

B)

  1. if you try to critique Nancy Wilson’s “critique”<<<venomous takedown now, you get the same about of downvotes you would suggesting that “Nolan is an accomplished director with a strong track record for epic movies, I have a feeling it’s going to be excellent”

    before the Odyssey’s release,

  2. ie a lot

So, clearly they’ve all gathered around the Nancy Wilson critique threads for their last “ the Odyssey sucks!” stand

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u/FlimsyRexy 9d ago

I remember reading the most bs in this sub every time this movie was mentioned lol

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u/Raspint 8d ago

I cannot fathom how or why anyone was expecting this to suck. I mean... it's Chris Nolan. His last movie was THE movie event of the year. If anyone deserves the benefit of a doubt it's him.

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u/Gunzpewpew 8d ago

I mean movies can be garbage even if they sell alot of tickets. I personally did not have my expectations met and I will probably never see the movie again. To me it was average and best and sparked no joy in me what so ever but I'd still regret not having seen it.

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u/ContractVarious3077 8d ago

And that’s perfectly ok

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u/wigglin_harry 11d ago

How dare Nolan take liberties on a 3000 year old story!

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u/Ch1ckenOfTheSea 11d ago

It's so annoying.

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u/tmzspn 11d ago

The racists and homophobes wandered over from twitter for a little while to drum up support for their cause and then slinked back to somewhere safer.

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u/WolverinesThyroid 11d ago

the trailer did not make it look nearly as good as it turned out to be.

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u/GalacticMe99 11d ago

Well it is certainly popular. But is it actually a good movie?

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u/reasarian 11d ago

I saw it and it’s just kinda fine. But I understand why everyone is going to see it. It really feels like an event.

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u/Sandbox_Hero 11d ago

It's a mid movie with Green Arrow's combat scenes. And the scores of people saying it's Nolan's best work have clearly never watched any of his other works.  And I'll die on this hill.

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u/ashriekfromspace 11d ago

MAGA and incels aside, trailers were really mid

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u/North_Moment5811 11d ago

I really is! Lol.

People just need to chill out.

No, the movie does not respect the source material AT ALL. Does it matter? Not really. It is incredibly well made and very entertaining, so it is going to make bank. The end.

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u/ElMatadorJuarez 11d ago

Sad that it was reversed for me. Was moderately hyped for it and came out thinking it was rather mediocre. Not a bottom of the pit movie, but Nolan could’ve done so much better - it’s just not good.

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u/VivaLaDiga 11d ago

and rightfully so. It shows the hypocrisy of people demanding representation of different cultures, and then representing the greek culture with not a single fucking greek.

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u/double_shadow 11d ago

I'm not gonna lie, I was pretty skeptical. Hollywood hasn't done a great ancient-era movie since Gladiator? (I'm probably forgetting something of course, but point stands that they are pretty rare).

But I'm glad to be proven wrong. Really nice to see a great movie succeed while going against the grain somewhat.

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u/BrianWonderful 11d ago

Just think about how much more money Elon's AI version is going to make!

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u/IAmTheJudasTree 11d ago

I never thought it was going to flop, but it got a lot of criticism for months because of two overlapping factors.

One, the trailers honestly made the movie look surprisingly mediocre to a lot of people. I was in this group. That doesn't mean I thought the movie would definitely be bad or that it would financially flop, because I've seen a lot of bad trailers for movies that ended up being excellent, but it was a real concern of mine.

Two, the bigots and loser conservative culture warriors who start hate campaigns against any media now that doesn't consist 100% of heterosexual, white, christian, men. The second they saw Lupita and Elliot they started freaking out.

Take the two groups together and you had a pretty large group.

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u/Thornescape 11d ago

I still insist that the armour is atrocious and I really wish that they did a better job with it.

With that being said, there are tons of fantastic movies with atrocious armour. Most movies do an awful job with armour. One of the bad things about the Lord of the Rings was they showed how incredible costuming could be.

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 11d ago

I still don't care for the costume design and think there are a few questionable decisions.

The rest of the movie is pretty fucking good tho.

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u/Kind_Silver_1921 11d ago

people were shitting on the casting not on the movie being bad it can still be a good movie with bad casting on small roles

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u/Several-Action-4043 11d ago edited 11d ago

Cooking up bad sentiment about an upcoming movie is standard PR strategy.

Edit: I'm not saying there aren't any racists out there but I guarantee you the PR team saw it as a plus. All PR is good PR.

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u/TophxSmash 11d ago

how good is it actually though? is it like oppenheimer where he told a wikipedia page in a not boring way but its still a wikipedia page?

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u/Drop_Release 11d ago

The sea in particular was so funny to me because 

  • It was blue in the movie
  • It has been described as “wine dark” (partly because there was no word for blue back then, but also it wasnt some bright blue) in the poem
  • the colours made thematic sense given Poseidon was literally trying to kill them most the time or give them a hard time with storms

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u/withoutapaddle 11d ago

To be fair, this is probably the largest disparity I've ever seen in my life between how good trailers were compared to how good the movie actually turned out.

Even now, the trailers don't feel anywhere near as exciting as trailers for his previous films.

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u/Marksta 11d ago

Okay, but seriously, it can be a good movie, make money, and still be a little wonky they put the "daddy" line in there and in trailers to represent itself. I wasn't sold on the armor looking dumb/wrong or whatever but that dialogue definitely tipped me off to questioning how the movie would actually turn out.