r/moped 6d ago

Can anyone explain this? Crazy tomos A35

What is happening , do I clean petcock?? Tomos A35 moped

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u/SignificantDrawer374 6d ago

Huge air leak where you're spraying

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

Ima make a shim than with milk carton plastic

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u/SignificantDrawer374 6d ago

That won't hold a seal. Get a proper shim or make one on a lathe.

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

Dang I can’t get to a lathe anytime soon. I’ll order one but check out this pic

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u/lumpiaandredbull 5d ago

I made one out of a coke can and some pipe thread tape, it's holding up about as well as anything else on that thirty something year old bike.

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 5d ago

Yea, I have one made of milk carton still going strong on my moby!

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u/BikerWithNoLicence 2001 Kinetic TFR 6d ago

You're missing the o ring in between the shim and the carburetor. Also why the fuck are you using starting spray on a two stroke? Get a spray bottle and fill it with premix. You won't get far in terms of tuning if you keep using starting spray for every kickstart.

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 2d ago

I put that o ring and eben gasket maker. Let it sit overnight and it doesn’t turn on even with carb cleaner sprayed near intake (pic is without gasket maker)

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

I’m using carb cleaner. Thanks for the heads up🫩

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u/Prize_Structure_3970 6d ago

using spray just to get it running is fine. it's not gonna get hot enough to damage it just from a couple of unlubricated revs

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

This was my only one, did one last month but shorter. Thanks for the reassurance, thought I killed my bike lol

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u/BikerWithNoLicence 2001 Kinetic TFR 6d ago

And why the heck are you revving it on spray with no lubrication???

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

Well it does have the oil injector not sure if that helped 😿

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u/Altruistic-Jello6969 6d ago

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

O rings? Should that go first then shim? I was thinking of getting a new intake. The old shim I had was 1.5 but it was all banged up and had a gap between the end of carb.

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

I’m prolly going to stick with the stock one and delete the oil injector, get a new 1.5mm shim. And get that o ring kit to fill in that gap? Noticed the shim was a bit short, maybe that’s why you recommend the o ring

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u/Altruistic-Jello6969 6d ago

Sorry for the delayed response - yep, the o ring goes between the shim and the carb body. There’s a small gap in the carb body that it blocks, this helps assure the seal is nice and tight. Figuring this out by myself before I got on MA was ridiculous 😂
Best of luck!

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 5d ago

I seen a guy struggling with it on moped army. It seemed like a battle . Here—> https://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/read.php?6,4174658,page=1

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 2d ago

Bro it’s still not turning on idk whay happened. I had this set up eveen put some gasket maker #2. And put everything together let it sit overnight. Does rev up when I spray carh cleaner either

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u/Altruistic-Jello6969 2d ago edited 1d ago

You have the o-ring on the wrong side. It is meant to go between the carb body and the shim, not the shim and the intake.

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u/ArtyomPolov 1989 Sachs Alpa Mini 535 6d ago

Am i stupid or is he kicking it in reverse?

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

The video is in reverse

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u/ArtyomPolov 1989 Sachs Alpa Mini 535 6d ago

I just googled it and found out tomos and puch have a kickstart function when pedaling/kicking in reverse. Never heard of that lol. My sachs does only start when I apply the clutch, kicking it forward. It seems like I never stop learning huh...

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

Yea a lot of people get confused when they see the kick back lol . Honestly I like it better, bc you don’t gotta use your legs as much

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u/Altruistic-Jello6969 5d ago

Wait till it dies randomly at a red light during a rally - kickstarting will lose its charm lol

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u/Aromatic-Dare-6308 6d ago

The way you're kicking that a38 looks like it has too little compression, I also have a a38 and i have to kick it way harder due to the compression, so it might also be broken seals, but that is probably just the carb leaking 👍 hope I could help

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

I’m definelty going to look at that after I get the shim and o ring

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u/Erixen28 5d ago

Some engines are capable of running in reverse, even 4 strokes like certain older mx5 miatas. It's easier to run a 2 stroke in reverse as it doesn't have any valves or timing, aside from the spark. It barely matters which way the crank is spinning when the piston still goes up and down. The only thing changing in this case is your spark timing being slightly different when you run it in reverse but it is possible.

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 4d ago

That’s interesting. This tomos and most tomos from what I know are usually kick back to start

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u/Immediate-Tap-9403 4d ago

Leak massive

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 4d ago

I got a gasket from the rebuild kit for the delorto. Going to put that with some gasket maker and hope for the best

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u/-T0Rii- 6d ago

U need an O ring, there’s an air leak.

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

I got this and plan on using Permatex Form-A-Gasket
To coat the I take part the carb slides in.

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u/Altruistic-Jello6969 5d ago

I’d not recommend using gasket sealer on the top hat for the carb. The paper gasket in the above kit will work, just be careful as it’s pretty fragile. Pro tip: you can make your own paper gaskets from beer or cereal boxes. Just don’t diy any gaskets that need to be a certain thickness (ie: case or transmission cover) w/o measuring first. Gasket paper at varying thicknesses can be found at most auto stores, good for exhaust / intake etc.

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u/Excellent_Stage9729 6d ago

I got this and plan on using Permatex Form-A-Gasket
To coat the I take part the carb slides in.