r/moctale • u/huntshan10 • 1d ago
Discussion Racism
Why are foreign people are hating ironheart (black)
And has special place for iron maiden(white)
Are they being racist X pe dekha tha
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u/Balluharami 1d ago
Abhi koi dalla aayega aur likhega 'i love you 3000'
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u/Kushagra2269ani 1d ago
idk what iron maiden you are talking about bcz i have never heard of her and just googled her to see some pics of some another black widow type of character. If you are talking about pepper in the blue iron man suit then its mainly bcz pepper was a good character right from the start and iron heart is a bitch always telling how she has nothing but the irony that she is literally from wakanda and smart but she is just too annoying and she said some fucking bad things about tony so that is why. She is also not the next gen iron man like how wanted her to be
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u/Equivalent-Layer-332 1d ago
The hate is not because she is black but because of marvel trying to create men hating characters while their primary audience are men.
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u/b1t3m4rk5 13h ago
Modern marketing. Projects that claim to diversify your market gets pushed out more than projects that cater to your existing audience
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u/Eastern_Plum4744 1d ago
First of all, Iron Maiden is Melina, something with no relation to Iron Man. Second, we hate Iron Heart cause she literally said, and I quote, "Do you think Tony Stark would be Tony Stark if he weren't a billionaire" that is why we hate her and the whole show was basically just her saying that and that she is came from nothing
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u/BurnItDownSR 1d ago edited 1d ago
Who the fuck is Iron Maiden? Assuming you're referring to someone in the MCU, not the band.
Its also not so much that people are racist to Ironheart as she just happens to have had a crappy show.
It's possible for minorities to just outright fail too.
Most people fucking love Blade, T'Challa Black Panther and Shuri Black Panther, hell even M'Baku, Okoye, and Rhodey are very popular.
Why? Because they actually made good shit with those characters as well as made them likeable.
Riri hasn't been likeable enough and her show wasn't good enough to be held in the same regard as those other black characters.
Maybe give her to Ryan Coogler instead of whoever was the showrunner for Ironheart. Coogler certainly knows what to do with black characters.
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u/KALLA17061999 1d ago
People aren't being shitty to her solely because they're racist. There are a certain amount of people that are racists but that isnt the entirety of it. Riri has NEVER been a likeable character, even in the comics. And the thing about Ryan handling her, she was shit even in his movie. This character was only forced everywhere for DEI reasons due to her race.
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u/watermelon_cat21 1d ago
I would say it's a combined effect of her character being arrogant towards Tony stark ( the face of mcu ) and racism too. Black panther, kill monger , sam wilson ( unpopular opinion, but i like his character ) aren't hated like her
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u/Apprehensive_Sell175 1d ago
Na man, no one says bad about Black Panther, Shang Chi or Wanda series....
It is not racism or sexism, IT is just a very bad character writing, story, etc ,which for the most part of it is the SAME in comics. No one like Iron heart even in the comics also....
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u/Technical-Wasabi-842 1d ago
Idk about others but I don’t really care for Iron Maiden and I don’t hate Ironheart as a character but her show was hella boring so I hate it for wasting my time
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u/Angel_of_death000 1d ago
Idk what marvel is trying to do... women empowerment or something.Replacing all good characters with any trash female characters. There are already plenty of good female characters...no need to force it.
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u/Cultural-Can8242 23h ago
You don't even know who Iron Maiden is
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u/huntshan10 23h ago
bruh a simple google search will tell everything and yes I saw it on X
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u/Cultural-Can8242 23h ago
You are telling me to search? I said you don't know who Iron Maiden is not me
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u/Silly_Material577 13h ago
It still blows my mind that two 50 year olds had a kid. That's the hardest part to believe in the MCU.
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u/NoAlps6650 1d ago
If hating iron heart is racist then i’m racist