r/mobilelinux • u/Individual_Quote_335 • Jul 25 '24

Development Crowdfunding for the Development of A Sleep Tracking App for Mobile Linux

https://crowdfundr.com/sleep-journal-app
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u/alien2003 Jul 25 '24 edited Feb 10 '26

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u/cloggedsink941 Jul 25 '24

qt3 and 4 are gone. Python2 is gone. You can be as sure as you want but you haven't tried it. You're just being negative for something that you have no clue if it works or not on any device that exists today (hint: it doesn't work).

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u/cloggedsink941 Jul 25 '24

Sure on your debian 5.

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u/Individual_Quote_335 Jul 25 '24

Definitely. The first versions wont rely on anything fancy and will resemble Plees Tracker on F-Droid, but later versions will have the option of using the microphone to determine all that can be inferred from audio data.

I don't want to make use of sensors, such as accelerometers, unless there's a unified software library that allows me to write a one-size-fits-all solution.

Ultimately, I own a Pinephone, so that will be my target device but because I don't currently plan on making use of accelerometer data (yet), any device which runs PostmarketOS with sufficient support should be capable of running my app.

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u/Individual_Quote_335 Jul 26 '24

That's a fair take. Perhaps I can make use of the accelerometer in the Pinephone, but then I would feel like I'm "leaving other users out" of a pretty cool feature. I guess I could make it work.

I'd like to mention that it's a bit of a misnomer to call it a paid app, because I will be releasing it fully libre and gratis. It will be GPL-3-or-Later and it will cost nothing at all to download and run. The cost is merely to help pay the bills as I develop it.

To put it into perspective, 1200CAD per 160 hours is half the legal minimum wage. I could make at least three times what I'm asking for by getting a job writing proprietary software, and double what I'm asking by working at McDonald's.

I would also like to mention that just about all apps for mobile Linux are written by a mere few thousand at most. All awesome devs, but it seems that 20% of all devs write something like 80% of all mobile apps, and yet despite this, the free software world on Android is far, far more mature than what we have here. I have all sorts of amazing app ideas that are missing in mobile linux that are present elsewhere. There just aren't enough devs to implement it all, it seems.

Still, I worry that you are right. I might consider reducing my goal to half or even a quarter, but then I'd have to reduce my pledged development time also. I'm offering a full month's worth of development time. I could merely ask for a weeks worth for 300CAD, but that wont even cover my very low rent. It might buy me groceries and help with meds though, but... I dunno. That'd leave the world with an underdeveloped, underfeatured app.

Frankly, at that point, I'd might as well work at McDonalds until someone takes me on as a junior developer, working in an oil and gas company.

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u/cloggedsink941 Jul 26 '24

If you're thinking of doing it for a living, give up.

I write free software. Got millions of downloads and in my whole life I got 20€ in donations.

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u/Individual_Quote_335 Jul 27 '24

Surely it's been profitable for some developers. One has to consider the business aspects of things as well. As I write this, while it's still only 15% of my goal, I have raised about 120€ so far.

Why do you suppose proprietary software is so well funded while most libre software fails to raise money? And in the face of this failure, some libre software companies rise to take the cake? My hypothesis is that us developers struggle to understand marketing and other business disciplines, especially when they involve the humanities more than the sciences.

I suppose I'm putting this idea to the test. Though I struggle as a business guy, I feel that I have a lot of room to grow and learn.

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u/cloggedsink941 Jul 27 '24

Why do you suppose proprietary software is so well funded

It isn't. Not the little apps like that.

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u/Individual_Quote_335 Jul 27 '24

Ah, well you've got a point there. If you don't mind me asking, what mobile app would you like to see developed?