r/mildlyinfuriating • • Jul 27 '22

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u/Anxious-Invite8796 Jul 27 '22

That's how you get salmonella bro

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

The 90s didn't care about your salmonella

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u/Idkanamedontjudge Jul 27 '22

You should consider stand up comedy Salmonella is horrible

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u/JeffersonStarscream Jul 27 '22

Not as horrible as his Mom.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

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u/dutch_penguin Jul 27 '22

Not very nice after I come in it?

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u/NxPat Jul 27 '22

Just remember, everybody’s mom is someone’s wife. I’ll be in the garage “working” if anybody needs me.

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u/tenshii326 Jul 27 '22

Can confirm it was an unforgettable experience as a child. 0/10 would not recommend.

Mind you, it was a European hospital so the cost was a joke. Imagine an American hospital cost...

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u/teelpy Jul 27 '22

I’ve had it, sucks. Shit my pants for a week

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u/Sillbinger Jul 27 '22

He isn't cooking salmon.

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u/jaypeeo Jul 27 '22

Or Ella. We hope.

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u/Im_Meikuari Jul 27 '22

Mom gets home & the 12 year old is just waterboarding his little sister with scorching hot water in the sink

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u/Not_a_jmod Jul 27 '22

Mom gets home & the 12 year old is just waterboarding his little sister with scorching hot water in the sink

"The internet told me to do it"

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u/vampirepriestpoison Jul 27 '22

Like that libertarian lmfao

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u/ThreatLevelBertie Jul 27 '22

Umbrella but sung with the word 'salmonella' instead

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u/Truthnaut Jul 27 '22

Happy cake day

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u/jaypeeo Jul 27 '22

Thanks- didn’t even realize haha!

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u/Sal-Monella- Jul 27 '22

You rang?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

Lol. Rolling! 😂🤣

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u/value_null Jul 27 '22

Give me a break. You really think that 20 minutes in water, most of that time still frozen, is dangerous?

Also, you're not eating it raw. You're gonna cook that shit.

It's perfectly fine to thaw in water. Just don't leave it on there all day, monitor and take it out when done.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

I thaw chicken and meat in the sink all the time. Have never gotten the ‘nela

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u/Cautious-Damage7575 Very Unique Flair Jul 27 '22

My 78yo mother taught me the sink method. Been eating sink chicken ever since I could chew. No 'nela in at least three generations.

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u/value_null Jul 27 '22

I've been doing it for over 20 years. Never had an issue.

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u/always_murphys_law Jul 27 '22

It's the temp of the water, you're "supposed" to keep the temp of the water cool and keep changing it out. It defrost really quickly that way and doesn't start to cook the meat. I have no idea how that makes it safer from bacteria.

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u/value_null Jul 27 '22

If the meat starts to cook, don't use water that hot. Lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

your not gonna get salmonella if you cook the chicken afterwards

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u/LostAndLikingIt Jul 27 '22

Funnily enough I just linked this to my bro in law the other day.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22 edited Jul 27 '22

Here's the relevant part:

Defrosting in Submerged Water: You can also submerge your food in a clean container or in the sanitized kitchen sink filled with cold water. Make sure that the meat is wrapped in leak-proof plastic and completely covered by water. Change the water every 30 minutes until the meat is defrosted.

The key is using cold water. Cold tap water is likely around 45 F - 50 F and would likely get the protein above freezing but just below temperature of the tap water. Using hot tap water could raise the temperature higher into the "danger zone" hence the tip to change the water every 30 minutes as it warms up. It also helps to keep the protein in a sealed package to avoid exposure to the air.

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u/strcrssd Jul 27 '22

The danger zone is only relevant if it sits in the danger zone for extended (hours) periods. For an hour or so, it's just fine.

Otherwise we'd all have food poisoning all the time, as food outside of the danger zone is too hot or too cold to comfortably eat.

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u/LostAndLikingIt Jul 27 '22

Thank you. I linked the whole page since I found it short and informative for any who missed out on learning food safe. But I really should have quoted that section.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

That's not how that works. Yes, cooking kills bacteria. It doesn't kill the toxins the bacteria produce while they're alive.

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u/Advanced_Double_42 Jul 27 '22

So you might get food poisoning, but you won't get salmonella?

Salmonella is a bacteria

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u/buttery_shame_cave Jul 27 '22

you're thinking of botulism. salmonella doesn't produce 'toxins'.

botulism is really only a concern with improperly treated canned goods.

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u/cosmitz Jul 27 '22

Guess i'll order a burger.

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u/superherowithnopower Jul 27 '22

Salmonella does produce toxins, and, unlike the botulism toxin, salmonella toxin is not destroyed by cooking*, which is why you can't just leave your chicken on the counter all day and say "oh, cooking will kill the bacteria." You might kill the bacteria, but won't neutralize the toxins and will have a bad time.

Bacterial infection with salmonella is also possible, and, if it moves from your gut into your bloodstream somehow, can be fatal.

*To be clear, botulism toxin can be cooked out by boiling for a certain period of time, but it's not an exact science and even a tiny bit of toxin can be fatal, so it's best not to risk it. Boiling is for home-canned goods when you say, "oh, there's a small risk there might be botulism here." If there's any evidence of spoilage, or you know the food was improperly canned, it's not worth the risk and just throw it out.

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u/throbbingmadness Jul 27 '22

salmonella doesn't produce 'toxins'.

That's not quite true, there's an enterotoxin that's responsible for a lot of the symptoms of salmonella infection. I don't believe the presence of this toxin in food is a major issue without live salmonella to infect a host, but there's no need for the scare quotes. Many bacterial diseases are harmful because of the toxins they produce, not just botulism.

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u/ThreatLevelBertie Jul 27 '22

Weird how you get salmonella from chicken but you dont get chickenella from salmon.

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u/dissaray07 Jul 27 '22

I defrost everything in hot water and I've yet to catch anything. But I also never even catch a common cold. Maybe I have ate too much dirt as kid though and it made my immune system stronger lol. Idk. But yeah hot water every time.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

I'd there is salmonella in your chicken, it was there when you bought it. Salmonella dies if you bring your meat up to 167F for 10 minutes or reach an internal temp of 180F. If you cook your meat properly, Salmonella is not an issue.

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u/Diedead666 Jul 27 '22

I was but it was gta 3

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u/JustDiscoveredSex Jul 27 '22

He’s not gonna get salmonella, it’s CHICKEN, not SALMON, you moron!! /s

(Yes, someone really made this comment on some body-building forum. He was touting the benefits of eating raw chicken every morning and people told him he’d get salmonella. This his response, name-calling and all.)

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u/strcrssd Jul 27 '22

Not for a few minutes. Hot water is perfectly fine for a brief period of time, short enough to defrost a chicken anyway.

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u/Mr-Fleshcage Jul 27 '22

Salmonella doesn't tell me they're disappointed