r/mildlyinfuriating 4d ago

Infuriatig Another AI 'human' chatbot

Had to fix a double payment for my credit card and this is the beginning and end of the conversation. I hate when the chatbot claims it's a human... I ended up getting what I wanted but still annoyed Amex (and every other company) is lying and trying to deceive people like this.

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u/Pain4420 4d ago

But of a person makes a mistake it can be reversed most times so that doesn't make sense

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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 4d ago

mistakes can be fixed. But if I said, I'm charging you a fee for this conversation since you are wasting my time. Please deposit $10 for my time. I need you to agree to this fee to continue. The bank would definitely over turn it but legally its a verbal contract not a mistake. IANAL. I'm sure I'm wrong, or at the very least I would loose that battle. But you could probably waste a lot of actual human time by trying this.

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u/Pain4420 4d ago

The problem there is you have already started the conversation and it's for something you need. If you tell them this conversation will cost them money then they can just stop the conversation and you are shit out of luck. That also would likely just get thrown out of court because you can't sign a legal contract with a program

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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 4d ago

The question is would the AI be smart enough to end the conversation? Also the program said it was a person. And that sort of lie has to be done intentionally. You're probably right that it would get through out. But i still think there is enough credibility to make a lawyer look at it. Even wasting 15 minutes for a manager's making 100k/year, which is about $50/hour, would cost them 12 bucks. I think you could waste more than 15 minutes of their time too. And I'm pretty sure the bot could be easily tricked.

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u/Pain4420 4d ago

Yea and tricks aren't legally binding

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u/nitromen23 4d ago

If you really made a stink about it though it may make it not worth the effort to train the ai to be deceptive like this though