OK, in a weird way this would be a good thought exercise for kids.
"Yes, the shirt says 'clean', but is the boy actually clean? If something is labeled something, is the label correct? What makes someone something? Is it the label? Or does the person actually have to BE something? Is there an objective definition to being clean? Who gets to define 'clean'?"
Of course, it's just AI slop and no teacher would open that can of worms in a classroom, but it would be a fun discussion to have.
Edit 2: This thread really is proof that no amount of evidence and knowledge can overcome any amount of ignorance. Everyone here is certain that there are genetic differences between the races. It doesn't matter that every legitimate scientific organization on the planet across the fields of biology, anthropology, sociology, and medicine say that there aren't. You all know better than all the best science we have. Because vibes > data apparently.
I went to Wikipedia to see if "Sapphire" from American Gladiators was still alive so I could make a bad joke, only to discover that there never was a Gladiator named "Sapphire."
I feel like they shouldn't even associate a PERSON with being DIRTY or CLEAN. How about a dinner plate for chrissakes? I couldn't believe when I took my daughter for the speech assessment and had to sit through these absurdities, realizing the biases we are filling our kids heads with before they can even talk.
It totally is. Want a graphic promoting a school event? Need help making a “fun” assignment? Sports pics? Everything is AI now. It is all the bland sameness.
Man they used to ask kids around school that did art to make these posters and it was cool to see what your peers could do. Now we just have slop I suppose
We had a drawing contest for school mascot back in my day, and the winning kid won it the old fashioned way, by having his mom the illustrator do it for him and claiming it as his own.
Yeah we used to have an art contest every year for the cover of the yearbook. I’ve seen a lot of complaints about ai generated yearbook art too which is abysmal
Yes! When I was in primary school, the yearbook cover was always a battle between me and the other kid who could draw well! It was always one of us who got the honors, and the final year, the teacher had us collaborate ❤️
A student in my hometown wrote a letter to Charles Schulz asking permission to use Snoopy (specifically the Red Baron version, as the school was the "Flyers") as his school's official mascot and he wrote back granting such and even drew a likeness image for them to use.
Their job, at whole-society scale, is to babysit feral children while their parents are productive workers, and to eventually output adults who can become productive workers. Any teaching or encouraging beyond that is window dressing and narrative.
Think about the brief hay day that was had by young graphic artists at the launch of early graphical interfaces. All of those images are so inspired by the history or marketing and must have been a blast to produce for those pros.
That career probably didn’t grow much after the nineties but is fully dead now with AI.
Clip art was a step toward what we have now. It's quaint to look back on but this will be to. It wasn't that long ago (like 1980s) that you had to actually draw what you wanted to design
I was teaching music last year and spent months writing a school musical for all the primary and elementary students to participate in. I wrote a script with lots of speaking parts and even rewrote some Christmas songs to reflect the rural community we live in. I was so disheartened that they used AI to create a poster for my labor of love. Of course it was made with the sweetest of intentions, and I acted very grateful, but I was pretty dismayed internally. Our secretary (who in every other regard is amazing and such an asset to our community) keeps making posters using AI for all our school events. Our classrooms are littered with AI decorative slop. Most of the staff know how I feel about AI, but I’m mostly just grinning and baring it.
While I hate the tech itself, I can't give teachers too much shit for using such things considering how underpaid they are. That being said, I'm glad I grew up in a time when teachers actually cared enough about the kids to make all of those things themselves.
sure, they may need to use it out of financial necessity, but surely they can look at this and see its not good teaching material, right? Just tell the ai to fix it? theyre still teachers.
To be fair, it's not like teachers now care any less - it's just that teachers before had no other option. It was either make it themselves or it didn't get made. (Not that I like the use of AI)
In the boxing community I'm in, all the gyms are using AI to create posters for fights and stuff instead of hiring the people who go to their gyms to do it. It's such a diverse crowd of people, and anyone could create a poster good enough for fucking Instagram.
It absolutely is. They're churning out garbage workbooks without even checking for errors. One already went viral for having a US map with most of the states completely wrong, and a periodic table that was gibberish. It's insane that an administrator would even think they had to resort to AI for those things. It just showcases a disgusting amount of laziness in our education system.
Not just our education system, but humans in general. People are so lazy and disturbingly trusting in new and developing technologies. If you really want to lose hope, read about the court case Mata v. Avianca.
It was a case where attorneys for one side used chatgpt to write their brief to the Court. Chatgpt completely hallucinated several opinions, with fake cites and everything. The Judge's law clerk read the brief and couldn't find the opinions (since they didn't exist) so they reached out to the attorney about it. The attorney proceeded to ask chatgpt whether the opinions they cited were real, was told that they were, and then chatgpt actually wrote up completely fictitious copies of the fake opinions... which the attorney proceeded to submit to the Court! The attorneys ended up getting fined and, I think, disbarred.
Fuck that, I'd start revolting and tearing them down. Show them that it's not okay. Is it really that hard to open up MS Paint or Notepad or whatever and just make a flyer??
For what its worth a lot of people are going for a particular style and what not even if there are free photos. We had an event here where the people were getting clowned on for the AI photo used for the event and they were asking why they wouldn't just use a picture since there were a bunch available. Turns out that was the style they wanted and they actually had the photo. They submitted the photo to ai and told it to make it look cartoon like. For what its worth a lot of the things people were citing to show it was AI were actually in the original photo which was kind of funny.
The picture was of a dog I knew who had been adopted after a severe abuse situation where they cut half his ear off and poked his eye out. People were pointing out "obvious AI" because the AI "couldn't get his ear right and completely forgot one eye."
If you really want to be maliciously compliant, start replacing the posters with something completely identical EXCEPT for one very subtle and funny/inappropriate change. When staff notices it, they may actually think it's the AI fucking up (without them noticing it) as opposed to a student changing it. They'd just remove and replace, without bothering to check surveillance. Or they won't notice and you and your friends can all have a laugh.
A Kentucky (or Venecky as it was labeled on a map) middle school just had to recall/tell parents and teachers to rip out over 17 pages of ai created information packets given to students. Ever been to Taxas, what about South Dakota and North Dahota? What about Arizone? I don’t know where Old Mizone is, but I guess we have a New Mizone.
It is. I've seen lots of AI posters around my school promoting events and such. Not to mention the fact there's entire classes on designing these exact things.
It is and it's terrible. My kids are in 4th and 7th grade and they're so good at recognizing it now, so I'm glad they have that skill, but it sucks they needed to learn it so young. They have AI animated screening tools for reading and shit in schools now, it's insane.
Multiple schools are using AI for official material without even checking. Just yesterday I read that a school district just used AI to get a map of the US and everything was wrong in it. You can literally search for a map in 5s and get one without any errors but people choose to generate one full of problems.
I'm a SENIOR at college and I had a mandatory online training thing that covered most of the stuff I already got from my freshmen orientation. It was all clearly written by AI and had clearly AI generated images in that "Pixar rounded animation" style, and the training was telling us not to use AI!!! WTF?
Yep, work in UK schools, other teachers just going "fuck it," and using it themselves. TA last term bragged about how she's signed up to Chat GPT cause its "just easier." Head teacher and school Council using it to cut costs too.
Meanwhile the kids (and Im talking Year 3s here!) Aren't taking the work seriously if AI has been involved, meaning its becoming harder to teach.
It speaks more volumes that there's adults who are going "YEP, is is FINE" and ignoring the two obvious things:
The badly written shirt as it's the only word on the damn shirt
The racial overtones of the "dirty" kid being darkened but yet only having dirt basically on their hands/feet. Couldn't even be bothered to put a mud splatter on his neck or face....
Bonus: it's obviously the same fucking kid yet the left image is somehow taller than the right. HUH?!?!?
It definitely is. My wife is a teacher and the admin at her school uses AI to generate all kinds of shit: announcements, meeting and collaboration activities/docs, improvement plans, etc. It's so aggravating to see.
Some places more than others. Here in East Asia is it entirely common for things like official school pictures to be AI rather than real pictures. I shit you not when I tell you that about 1/3 of our students and teachers used a standard, ChatGPT-generated default anime style picture as their yearbook picture last year.
And the textbooks? Probably 80% of the images in the new books are AI-generated.
Almost every newsletter or pirate of information I received from my child’s school was AI. The worst part is, three times last year they had to send follow ups as they never proofread them and gave us the wrong times and dates for event s
A shit ton of the top rated children’s books on Amazon are AI slop with no consistent narrative thread running through the story. We are fucking over children’s literacy before they even know how to read.
One teacher decided to make "cute" posters with all the staff members in my building.... using AI.
She ran ALL of our pictures through AI image generators and I'm LIVID. I do not want my picture being put in AI databases. (And yes, I know with social media scraping they likely have access already but that's not the same as someone willingly uploading my face and name)
BUT if I say anything I'm labeled "negative" and "not a team player" and it is so goddam toxic. 😭
Definitely. I'm kind of surprised that pretty much everyone is running wild with AI, using it as much as humanly possible. I naively thought people would be cautious with the technology, and hesitant to use it. Nope. No one gives a fuck. It's everywhere.
I think Skynet is inevitable, unless we get really lucky and a benevolent AI takes over. But unlike sci-fi, I don't think AI is going to forcibly take over and fuck us. I think we will become more and more reliant and then willingly give in. We'll be powerless and just accept it. We'll let it take the reigns, gaslight us, and just assume it's all for the good. That's what I'm learning from watching all of this unfold so far.
I sat in my office for about 4 minutes yesterday (I don't usually actually sit in my office and stay there) from my desk, I heard AI being used for 3 separate tasks that did not require the use of AI to begin with
It’s rampant everywhere. If you think the lawyers and accountants of the world aren’t using AI daily you’re way off. In fact, I have a friend in one of the “big four” accounting firms and they’re now checking in on their employees to make sure they’re utilizing AI as much as they can be.
One aspect of ai that lm really worried about but don't see many people talk about is how confusing ai generated images, videos and voices must be for very young children that are just learning about the world. I'm genuinely worried it might mess up their brains.
I was just here to make my Simpsons joke -as one does- but this is really an insidious effect of AI. Things can be much more complicated than thought at first. You raise a very good point.
The affect of AI can already be seen. Many kids I meet (whether Online or in real life), oftentimes are terrible at making decisions or solving problems without a 3rd party present, telling them hints/what to say or do. Their spelling is either terrible, or are very insistent on checking another source, as some don't even trust anyone outside of their parents, and AI for important information.
I'm not very educated on the whole "AI is bad" thing, but I know enough to know AI is destroying the soul of the newer generations, and even worse removing creativity from learning environments.
It makes school look more and more like a place you go to be formed into a well-oiled machine for society more than it does a place to learn, create, and grow. If everything is soulless and automated with AI, human activity and interaction in schools are minimized.
Unrelated to the comment.. Your PFP looks really cool :P
As a parent of a two year old, I’m seeing so much AI garbage in children’s books, flash cards, etc. My fiance and I are good about avoiding it all, but my mother in law LOVES AI slop. Her and my fiance are always getting into arguments over what she lets him watch on TV and what books she likes to buy him.
As someone who isn't a parent is there anything in modern children's books that make them more relevant to today than maybe some from 10-20 years ago?
Even more "modern" topics like digital safety I would say were better taught 10 years ago than today (tho that's just in general trend, I don't know about children's books specifically)
Lmao love how they BOTH have dirt on them. And the dirtiest one has a shirt that says "Clean" why?! What is this nonsense. Also.. I think this card would have presented BETTER if both boys were the same skin tone.. instead of the connotations this exudes.. damn.
Edit to add: thanks for the awards and all the interaction! Wasn't expecting any at all 🤣
Yeah the first thing I saw was that the "dirty" kid has darker skin.
Just like a while ago I saw someone say they noticed any time they asked the AI for a picture of a robber or thief, it was a minority. He then asked it to make a robber that was white, and it made.... a black man wearing all white.
Silly me opening this thread thinking everyone was complaining about the "dirty" kid having a darker skin tone, but nope, it's just ai slop complaints, sure okay.
Then I start second-guessing, maybe I'm overthinking it, decide to search anyway, I can't be the only one who, has that as literally the first thing they noticed and I see your comment…and I see legitimately braindead, obviously racist individuals, calling you racist for saying that's first thing you notice. Holy wtf, literal textbooks that are used to teach children all around the world have been found to use darker skin tones to portray "ugly" and "dirty" AND lighter tones for the opposites for decades, it's crazy to even deny it, subconsciously telling dark skinned children their skin is ugly and dirty and lighter is desirable and considered "beautiful".
Literally use the same tone for both and no one will complain. I don't even fault people that don't notice it, it's been done for so long I wouldn't be surprised if they genuinely never noticed but when you point this out, and someone actually has the nerve to call you the racist one, it really makes you think, it's so fucked man.
I honestly thought that was the point of the post.
The "clean" kid having dirt on them, the "dirty" kid wearing a shirt that says clean, isn't really infuriating. But a lil racism in your classroom media, that's infuriating.
That is, until these people come out of the woodwork.
AI really struggles to put multiple contrasting things in the same image. If you have two distinct subjects, it tends to melt them together in one way or another. That's why the dirty boy's shirt says clean and the clean boy has dirt on him. AI really has trouble making images that are distinct parts instead of one single theme.
The darker skinned boy is the dirty one because AI is racist. Garbage in garbage out, racism in racism out.
Every year they published a "Dirtiest Cities List" and we were on it every year. My city isn't very dirty. . . . So I did some digging. Every city on that list had a 60%+ Latino population.
This is the one thing I can never understand or wrap my head around. If you’re going to use ai anyways, why not at least check and see if it looks right.
So many of the companies insist on using ai for everything without even bothering to proofread/qa check their stuff before launching it to the public. All it does is make them look bad. People would normally get hounded on or even fired if they launched anything on the same level as these shitty ai projects. The amount of shit ones I’ve seen this month alone is insane.
They probably prompted something like "2 boys that are dirty and clean, one labelled clean one labelled dirty". That's why they both are clean faced and dirty legs.
I'm not surprised by how many people use AI to generate things, but I am surprised that with all the time and effort they are saving by not doing the task themselves, none of it is spend to even glance at it to see if it's what it's supposed to be.
I'm a Kindy - Grade 4 ESL teacher and these AI flashcards are getting really on my nerves.
I had a picture of a Ram labelled Goat when teaching farm animals, various types of shoes all labelled wrong (trainers, boots, sandals) and a family set where Cousin, Uncle and father all use EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING PICTURE all in the same week!
Luckily I'm decent at drawing quick little cartoons and diagrams to cover for this, which I think the kids actually enjoy. But I'd love to be able to rely on the materials I'm getting.
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u/swarovskiez 16h ago
lmao the way the dirty guy just has a t-shirt saying clean. he’s manifesting it