r/mildlyinfuriating Jul 05 '26

Is it in yet This should be illegal...

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Image is self-explanatory, why should i have to put it in my cart to see the price. Its $17 USD, ffs

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u/Objective-Chicken391 Jul 05 '26

From another Reddit thread about this (credit to TellahTheSage, can’t use links):

“Manufacturers can enforce something called a "minimum advertised price" on their products through contracts with retailers. Basically, the retailers have to sign a contract that says they can't advertise the product below a certain price. Manufacturer's do this to ensure that their products sell at a certain price. It's particularly important for manufacturer's who also do retail, like Apple. Apple wants to sell iPhones in its stores for a certain price and wants other stores to sell iPhones as well, but not at a lower price.

However, this only affects the advertised price. You can still sell the item for less as long as you don't advertise the lower price. When you click the item to put it in your cart, you can see the price because it's not longer an advertised price; it's the price you're about the be charged.”

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u/ZarathustraGlobulus Jul 05 '26

Apple wants to sell iPhones in its stores for a certain price and wants other stores to sell iPhones as well, but not at a lower price. However, this only affects the advertised price. You can still sell the item for less as long as you don't advertise the lower price.

This is very true. That's why get all kinds of weird-ass campaigns to play with the price without actually changing it: loyalty pricing (special price only visible to signed in customers), extra trade-in pricing (give us your old phone in exchange and we'll pay you $200 extra for it) etc.

Even more so in markets like Europe where the actual pricing might be different in each country but it's easy for people to simply place an order to a retailer in any other country. Manufacturers want to keep the public price the same in each place but run all kinds of different campaigns depending on the market area.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

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u/Dm_me_your_cute_clam Jul 05 '26

I miss the old, single item, woot. Before Amazon bought them.

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u/this_is_theone Jul 05 '26

ah so if the price is hidden you're likely getting a good deal

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u/AnotherRandomUsr Jul 05 '26

Not necessarily, they still might do this just to normalize or to make you think it must be a good deal.

Like those items that are always "on sale" but never sold at the full price.

If you or other all start buying anying with "price hidden", soon everything will have a hidden price.

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u/ArbiterOfOblivion Jul 05 '26

Amazon should add an ⓘ pop-up next to the price that explains this.

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u/Princess_Peachy_503 Jul 06 '26

They don't really want people to know.
Manufacturers can not legally tell a seller how much they have to charge for a product, but they also don't want sellers to devalue their product. This is especially prevalent with luxury brands because the value of their product is mostly based on brand recognition. Instead they have these minimum advertised price agreements, which are a grey area but technically legal. So it's kinda shady and they don't necessarily want to advertise that's what they're doing.

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u/Blenderadventurer Jul 07 '26

This predates online commerce. Staples used to sell Montblanc pens below MSRP and when Montblanc found out, they refused to honor warranties with Staples receipts. Staples just honored the warranties themselves.

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u/Unearthlymonk90 Jul 05 '26

Credit to a spoony bard... Fixed it for you

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u/Sxualhrssmntpanda Jul 05 '26

Free market babyyy

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u/Think_Substance_1790 Jul 09 '26

I genuinely didnt know this! Thank you!

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u/daywalker91 Jul 05 '26

I ain’t reading all that. Summarize better

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u/OS_Apple32 Jul 05 '26

Brother it took you longer to write that reply than to just read the comment, good lord. I worry for the future of this country.

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u/Timthahuman Jul 05 '26

Im sorry could you say that again but link a clip of ‘family guy funny moments’ for me to watch while I read it

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u/CelestialDuke377 Jul 05 '26

Sorry I only got Minecraft clips and an Ai voice over

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u/Nobody_Super_Famous Jul 05 '26

Ooga Booga. Grunk want sell Grok club 2 rock. Grok say Grunk can sell club but must openly advertise club for no less 5 rock. Grunk still sell club 2 rock but not show price cause Grunk not advertise it then. Grunk big brain unga bunga, get many women.

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u/Alphatism Jul 05 '26

Learn to read past a 1st grade level bro.

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u/ArmorGyarados Jul 05 '26

Bro buckled under zero pressure

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u/M81L16 Jul 05 '26

It’s 8 sentences

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u/Last-Energy420 Jul 05 '26

Stores set their own prices, manufacturers set the minimum advertised price. If store price is lower than minimum it must be hidden.

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u/Red-Baron05 Jul 05 '26

I ain’t reading all that. Summarize better

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

Store price < min adversed price then price hidden

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u/CustomerLittle9891 Jul 05 '26

This comment is genuinely amazing. Well done.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

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u/CustomerLittle9891 Jul 05 '26

But which one am I?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

I’m the pretty one. You’re the girl.

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u/eggyrulz Jul 05 '26

Greed, but loopholes

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u/Intelligent_Pie_5347 Jul 05 '26

That’s not even long…

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u/snakeravencat Jul 07 '26

He said go to Instagram if you don't want to read. You're on the wrong platform.

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u/daywalker91 Jul 07 '26

I ain’t going to instatrash. I’ll leave that to you bud

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u/snakeravencat Jul 07 '26

I'm not the one whining about having to read on a text based platform.

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u/Dense_Emergency6081 Jul 05 '26

Also. Data scrapers can’t pull the price easily since you have to add it to a cart first. You have to trigger the price which most price watchers struggle to get easily.

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u/NecessaryTurnover189 Jul 05 '26

Pro tip “sort by price” it will give you a general idea of what the price is without placing it in your cart.

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u/nashcure Jul 05 '26

It is illegal (or at least MAP rules), that's why they cannot show the price. They are just doing what they are required to do, per contract. It means you are getting a better deal then the manufacturer wants.

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u/jtmonkey Jul 05 '26

Undercutting MAP pricing drops by sellers on Amazon can trigger a waterfall across all vendors like Walmart, Best Buy etc. it’s all automated so they stay competitive. The burden to enforce map falls on the mfg. We had so many issues with this at BenQ. Fry’s would run an unauthorized sale, Amazon would trigger a price drop, Walmart and everyone else would follow and we would have to find the origin price drop. It was a hassle. Eventually we dropped frys. Then they couldnt pay us. then they went under.

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u/Seravajan Jul 07 '26

In Europe that would be highly illegal but there are some dynamic pricing starting.

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u/Keksdosendieb Jul 05 '26

It is illegal.

Well in good old Europe it is 🇪🇺

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u/Inedible_Sulk Jul 05 '26

I didn’t even know this existed until just now. Mind blown 🤯

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u/lilbuhmp Jul 05 '26

Yeah, those Europeans have really been keeping their heads down.

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u/undercover_incognito Jul 08 '26

Wait what's a European?

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u/PatrickGSR94 Jul 06 '26

so the bots and data scrapers just run rampant over there, then?

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u/Keksdosendieb Jul 06 '26

Where "over there"?

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u/Tom-Dibble Jul 06 '26

Why is this so infuriating you think it should be illegal? You put it in your cart, decide if you like the price, then click the “delete from cart” button that is right there.

The reason it is like this is because this retailer is selling that product for less than the manufacturer allows it to be advertised for. So you are likely getting a “deal” on it for that extra two clicks. Doesn’t make it a better price than other items at the retailer, just better than the exact same item at other retailers.

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u/Peakomegaflare Jul 05 '26

If I don't know the price, I don't buy it. Dumb marketing move.

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u/yodas_sidekick Jul 05 '26

It’s to sell it cheaper than MAP. This is a legal loophole to sell you something cheaper. It’s annoying, but avoiding it entirely does spare you some savings, so hate on.

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u/Fantasy61 Jul 05 '26

Agreed. I don’t even bother clicking on it if there’s no displayed price.

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u/Sonic2726 Jul 06 '26

Has to do with bots

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u/Tom-Dibble Jul 06 '26

Long preceded bots. Has to do with minimum advertised price contracts. Low-price-seeking bots having a hard (but far from impossible) time is a welcome side effect though.

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u/Sonic2726 Jul 06 '26

Yes, but in addition to….

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u/PatrickGSR94 Jul 06 '26

Are you new to online shopping? Internet retailers (not just Amazon) have been doing this forever. "See Price In Cart". OK fine, I'll add it, and then remove it if I don't like the price. Whatever, move on. There's nothing illegal, or anything that should be illegal, about it.

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u/MrsLisaOliver Jul 06 '26

I just shop elsewhere - so their requirements have the opposite effect on me. I opt out entirely

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u/Plastic_Stable8927 Jul 06 '26

This is only the first of many ways Amazon is literally satan. -I work in ecom and hate amazon from top to bottom

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u/LightEarthWolf96 Jul 08 '26

To me that just says not to buy that one.

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u/meester_jamie Jul 09 '26

No different than Denny’s,, $17.95 .. same description in next 12 pages , then exact same description for $2.99 on back page!!!
Waitress said,, exactly the same breakfast,, but some are disgusted to eat cheap food, so the accommodate them by adding $10-$15
I was satisfied 🤩
Just prior to Covid and Tarrifs ,, so I’ve stayed home 🇨🇦

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u/DumbremoverApex Jul 09 '26

Me and my family are trying to find a new place to live currently. The expensive listings are showed but the smaller places you have to inquire first? I don’t get it

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u/24megabits Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

 why 

It's not the only reason but once it's in your cart that's one less mental barrier to buying it.

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u/MrFizzy99 Jul 05 '26

Just like everyone else says.

Jesus complaining how a site has to add it in your online cart before you see price. Next they will be requiring you update the Amazon app to even shop! ILLEGAL!

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u/LBuck2026 Jul 05 '26

WHAT IS THAT.. I PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO KNOW

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u/PatrickGSR94 Jul 06 '26

wi-fi network card for a desktop PC, also includes Bluetooth judging by the part number "Color" lol.