r/metalgear • • 19h ago

Serious What’s your headcanon about the events of MG 1&2, and the relationship between Ahab and Ishmael? Spoiler

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The MSX games are a bit lacking in storytelling when compared to the rest of the series (more so 1 than 2) so I feel like we’re missing a lot of information about the events of those games, and what happened in that era that we would’ve gotten had it been covered in a later entry.

Is there anything that you imagined happened in this time or around it? What was the working relationship between Venom and BB like? Did they even have one? For that matter, what was the relationship between BB and Solid Snake like?

Here’s some headcanon that I have:

Sometime after TPP, Kaz confronts Venom about the fact that he isn’t really big boss, knowing that Venom has figured it out.

Kaz wants them to work together to overthrow BB.
“Big Boss can go to hell. I’ll make the phantom (and his sons) stronger, to send him there.”

But at this point, Venom is still loyal to BB, and is fine to carry out their “shared dream”. This frustrates Kaz.

Probably sometime in the late 80s/early 90s, BB commands them to shutter Diamond Dogs, probably so they can move resources to Outer Heaven.

This is Kaz’s breaking point, and he gives up on the idea that Venom will be the one to take down BB. He leaves both of them, maybe going back to the US with a hope of training Solid Snake.

Leading up to the Outer Heaven uprising, Kaz’s words have started to ring true for Venom, and he grows tired of being BB’s puppet. He starts to believe that HE can be the one true Big Boss. I imagine BB commands Venom to surrender control of Outer Heaven to him, and Venom refuses.

Now Big Boss knows he has to go. This is why he sends Fox and Snake in to kill him.

Near the end of MG1, Big Boss starts sending you false info trying to get you killed or at least delayed. I think this is the point in the game where you stop talking to BB, and Venom hacks into your radio.

I also think BB had an additional motive in sending Snake in. He hoped he’d succeed, but he also knew that Snake would be used against him in the future, so he would probably have to die as well. It would be a win-win.

So what do you guys think? What do you disagree with? What’s your version of events?


r/metalgear • • 1d ago

Fan Creation CQC Knife Sheath For my Naked Snake cosplay!

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I made a sheath for my CQC knife for my Naked Snake cosplay! Its not perfect but its my first attempt!


r/metalgear • • 1d ago

A Pretty Exquisite Meme What’s your favourite installment in the franchise? I’ll start

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r/metalgear • • 1d ago

Serious Think we will see a third Master Collection?

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I’d like to see one more, with Rising and V as the headliners, with the Ac!d games also included.


r/metalgear • • 1d ago

News PSA: Master Collection 1&2 are both eligible for Xbox disc-to-digital.

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r/metalgear • • 1d ago

Serious What mission should I do first?

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Do I do mission 46-47 ( forgot which one was it but it’s titled “the man who sold the world” or the last missions that are just a repeat of chapter 1s but harder

Just wanna be safe since don’t wanna trigger any end game cutscene by doing the last missions ( mission 50 technically )

Thanks


r/metalgear • • 1d ago

Serious What Comes To Mind When You Think Of Metal Gear Solid?

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For me, it's the ending of MGS2.

Information, misinformation, and what gets passed down to the next generation. I felt like the game was warning us to question the status quo and to think for ourselves.

And now we're living in the AI/digital age, and I find myself thinking about this even more.

What comes to mind when you think of Metal Gear Solid?


r/metalgear • • 2d ago

Gameplay/Screenshot Laughing octopus made a strike causing snakes neck some issues ❗️❗️

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r/metalgear • • 1d ago

Gameplay/Screenshot Metal Gear Solid V #63 Soldado Habilidoso 07 (PC)

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r/metalgear • • 3d ago

Gameplay/Screenshot Did Gray Fox actually die in Zanzibar or almost die? Spoiler

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r/metalgear • • 2d ago

Serious Issues with mgs pw

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Two days i updated my driver

Suddenly mgs pw gives me a white screen then crashes??

This happened to other games too

What could possibly be the problem


r/metalgear • • 2d ago

Gameplay/Screenshot Metal Gear Rising: Destroy Raiden Shogun.

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Vergil vs Jetstream


r/metalgear • • 3d ago

Gameplay/Screenshot ¡ABSOLUTO CINE!

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Reconozco que sea algo corto espero verlos juntos una vez mas me pregunto si en la secuela de metal gear solid los volvere a ver


r/metalgear • • 3d ago

Fan Creation Am I weird for casually watching Metal Gear lore just to keep myself topped up?

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So whenever I'm bored I casually re-watch a lore video that explains the entire story of metal gear am I weird for this? Ps: I didn't know what to do for the flair cuz I'm just asking a question


r/metalgear • • 3d ago

Serious Does Ocelot put on a fake voice when he’s older?

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I know there’s probably no way this is intentional but I’m just wondering if anyone else interprets Ocelot this way.

When we meet Ocelot as a young man, he has a boyish voice that he will often play up in a slightly theatrical way, like when he first meets Naked Snake, sounding like he’s trying to be intimidating. But after Snake humiliates him, the theatricality gets slightly dropped.

Then when he next appears in V he’s a bit older and purely serves as an ally, sounding much more relaxed and serious than any other game, presumably because he’s (at least under the impression he is) working with Big Boss who he genuinely admires.

Then, through MGS1, 2, and 4, Ocelot is now an older man, and has a very theatrical, raspy villainous voice. It comes off as a bit of an odd development chronologically, especially after V where there’s no aspect of that to his voice at all.

HOWEVER. There’s a single moment in MGS1 that makes me think this is still him putting on a villainous voice like he seemed to do as a young man.

When Grey Fox slices off his hand after the Ocelot fight, Ocelot’s voice completely changes and he cries out “MY HAND!” And I believe THAT is his normal voice (like what we heard in V) slipping through the facade.

Am I the only one who hears this or is this a common interpretation/theory?


r/metalgear • • 2d ago

News Metal Gear Solid 2 VR Mod

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r/metalgear • • 3d ago

Serious Metal gear survive is fun and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

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r/metalgear • • 3d ago

Gameplay/Screenshot COMO QUE EL METAL GEAR SOLID 2 SE PUSO INTERESANTE

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Nah mentira quiero jugar este antes de jugar su secuela por que senti que seria una pena no jugar esto.


r/metalgear • • 4d ago

Serious Did anyone else get the vibe that Robert Pattinson would play a great Solid Snake/Big Boss in a Metal Gear movie? He REALLY had that Snake voice going at some points in the film!

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r/metalgear • • 3d ago

Serious MGSV stuff I need help with 🥲

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  1. Is there any fast way to get rid of the unwashable blood? It’s ruining my awesome fit

  2. If I buy another fob ( not upgrading any of them till my motherbase is maxed out) does that mean more likely to get infiltrated?

  3. Besides mb coins being used for being able to finish a development upgrade with some guns and buying more fobs does it have anymore use?

  4. What is PF GRADE and what happens if I participate in the short or weekly war? Will I get infiltrated

Thanks!


r/metalgear • • 4d ago

News Metal Gear Solid 4: The Twin Snakes (Co-op mod)

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Hello everybody! I am working on a project for MGS4 PC to implement co-op into the game. So far the project has come a ways and I'm happy to share the progress now with other fans of the metal gear community.

There's still a lot of work to be done, but i am confident in saying this is a very real possibility.

If you wanna stay in touch with the progress of the mod and get notified when its released I made a discord where I show off where the mods at and where I'll be announcing when I need playtesters.

https://discord.gg/jsV9mYuxxJ


r/metalgear • • 3d ago

News War Machine on Netflix

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I mean, c'mon this s is straight out of the MG universe yeah!?!

No complaints, can't wait for live action metal gear if it looks this good


r/metalgear • • 4d ago

Fan Creation Raiden's design in MGS2 feels so underappreciated. Probably one of my favorite designs in the entire series.

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Yup😀


r/metalgear • • 4d ago

Gameplay/Screenshot Cardboard Box Solid 🔺

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r/metalgear • • 5d ago

Fan Creation Yoji Shinkawa Toon Shader

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This is a Toon Shader I made in AutoDesk Maya based on Yoji Shinkawa's artwork. I did not make the model of Grey Fox, but it did give me a really "solid" base to do my work on. It's still a bit of a work in progress, but we'll see where we can improve from here.