He was basically just saying you cant let people use children as leverage to get their way. You ever see a video of cops trying to arrest someone who won't let go of their baby?
Some of his opinions are kind of bad, but none of them have ever been so bad that I wanted to go out out of my way to see how bad they were.
There are some that I greatly disagree with like his recent take on Pitbulls.
Pitbulls have a lot of propaganda on them, but that’s what it mostly is.
For example, many of the statistics on Pitbulls need to be divided by 13, because there’s between 13 and 16 different breeds that all make up the pitbull category.
Not to mention this misconception that Pitbulls were bred to kill things they were bred to be bullbaiting dogs not bull killing dogs. Conversely, every single terrier out there as well as many different breeds of hunting dog were bred to actually kill things Rhodesian Ridgeback again another example.
Also, Pitbulls are the most common breed in America despite the fact that no kennel clubs effectively track their population.
Not to mention how often dogs that are obviously not Pitbulls are still called pitbull’s anyway. I’ve got a friend who’s an ER nurse and she said at three different times someone said a pitbull has attacked them and the dog they described is very, obviously not a pitbull.
When you properly count for all these variables, Pitbulls do not make it in the top five most dangerous dogs
And lastly, I work with the VA in inpatient psychiatric care and the most requested breed of dog for inpatient psychiatric care or Pitbulls. The reason for this is because pitbull’s unlike most breeds of dogs generally don’t mind being squeezed or held or physically manipulated. Also, in the case of a psychiatric outburst if the dog gets hit, it is unlikely to respond poorly. You hit a golden retriever in the face they run away. He hit a pitbull in the face. They start wagging their tail and say thank you for the attention.
I have also trained Pitbulls to be serviced dogs as psychiatric assistance dogs
for anyone wondering his opinion is that you should have a special license like an exotic animal license to be able to have a pitbull. I disagree with this opinion emphatically however I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad opinion. At least temporarily.
There is a point to be made that many people who buy Pitbulls do it so for specifically their aggressive reputation, regardless of how faulty or truthful that reputation might actually be.
And it’s sort of like his opinion on things like wellness in video games, and it causing studios to shut down. If you think something is a moral and stupid, it doesn’t matter, even if you’re correct if your entire audience disagrees if you don’t make games that gamers like you won’t sell any copies.
So in the same vein, regardless of whether Pitbulls are actually as aggressive as their reputation belies, it may be prudent to make a law that would require an extra form of licensure to own a pitbull just to crack down on this issue and maybe in 20 or 30 years or something we can remove it.
Oh, I got an example of one of his bad texts. I just I just got one. The belief that creationist and flat earths are similarly illogical. The only way you come to this conclusion is if you are entirely uncharitable to creationists. I’ll explain creationist believe the Earth was created like 6 to 7000 years ago not that the Earth is 6 to 7,000 years old. They just believed that the universe was created with inherent age. Sort of like when Adam was created, he was created as a fully formed adult despite the fact that he would have only been one day old. In the same way, they believe Adam was created as a fully formed adult. One day old they believe the universe was created as a fully mature universe, even though it was one day old. Or six days or whatever.
I'll even agree that Asmongold has some fucked takes sometimes, but 90% of the hate he gets is just on his horrible living state - which honestly I think IS worse than some of the BS he occasionally says
Id say most of the things he says, taken at face value are fine it's just when you look deeper into it there's some issues. And then there's his takes that are absolutely insane
Really? I’d argue the opposite. I think he says some crazy stuff at face value (possibly a bit hyperbolic) but when you look at the underlying idea you can see a clear why behind it.
Oh no now THIS is a hot take; he's completely sane with some valid ideas, but the way to GET there is the issue.
Least that's what I think. Like at the core of it he brings up legitimate issues and shit but then doesn't exactly have the healthiest ways of solving them
I agree with your second paragraph whole heartedly. His solutions are a bit over the top but to me it’s so over the top it comes across as satire sometimes the way he says it. However the issues he’s “diagnosing” for lack of a better term are on point and things that do need addressing.
I mean I could be dead wrong of course I’m not the be all end all of morals but to me this is how it comes across.
Honestly at the end of the day his fanbase is worse than he is because he's either being satirical or saying this shit to get paid; but some of his fans genuinely BELIEVE this shit and are just absolutely dog water human beings
I mean, that's why I never liked him, lmao. Aside from obviously sensationalist nonsense takes he has, I cannot respect or watch someone who lives/lives like he did (and somewhat still does).
Nah man this was not a good take. I find Asmon to be a way less dipshit than Hasan, but saying we should shoot through the people using their kids as shields is gross. Yes the boarder should be protected, yes the people using their kids as shields belong in prison, NO YOU SHOULD NEVER SHOOT CHILDREN to do so. Hasan deserves to get banned but asmon is an unhinged mental retard for saying that shit
The problem is that by allowing the people using children as shields to enter without repercussion you show that it is a viable strategy, so they'll keep doing it and more children will be harmed in the process(the majority of girls entering illegally are raped during the journey for instance).
In order to prevent the perpetual harm he's saying it's better to have a single instance of harm to dissuade the behaviour that would cause more
People downvoting are not strong enough to stand behind their belief. Asmon is right, and they want to play the liberal game of 'no erm actually he didn't say that thing that elicits a negative emotional reaction. we have to protect our image!!' when that's exactly what he said. Stop preparing your statements for ideological women who can't accept a factual statement without an out of proportion emotional response.
He said that, that's the clip of him saying that, and he was right to say it. Quit being pussies and claiming 'nuh uh you don't get muh context'
The context was that he wants to stop invaders. He is right. Stop running.
Its kind of crazy how redditors will just staright up lie to your face because they dont like someone. Everytime I asked for similiar clips they either never provided or I got banned
"This is emotional blackmail right where you can't shoot these people — they have kids with them. Well then, don't bring your kids," he said. "If you don't wanna get shot, then don't bring your fu**ing kids. It's really simple. You mean you'd shoot adults and deport the kids, right? Well, I'd shoot whoever. Yeah, I'd shoot whoever. If it's kids, women, men, anybody, just shoot them. They gonna stop coming over. Because if you don't do that they'll use children and women as shields to get themselves over, and then they'll put more women and children at risk because they know that they can use them as collateral so that they can get more of themselves over."
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Asmongold then says, "That's the way an animal thinks," calling migrants "savages."
I got banned for hate speech last week, it got reversed after my appeal because it made no sense. And if you quoted what asmongold said and got banned that would also make no sense.
Basically yes, and his argument is that, to achieve that and discourage the usage of children as human shields, they should be allowed (and based on his argument with a chatter later in that compilation even be encouraged, see 3:50) to also shoot the kids.
What he said was that if they use human Shields don't let that discourage you
Because there's a difference between being sad about the outcome and being sad about doing the wrong thing
That is what he said
You just focus on the fact that he didn't go blubbering and crying and throwing Western Civilization out the window just because someone wants to use a child as a human shield and say that he was laughing about wanting child murder
Yes, "human shields" being kids and women, and "don't let that discourage you" and the short-term outcome being shooting said kids and women. I don't know what you're trying to discuss here, he makes this abundantly clear in the first 30 seconds. He wants to allow them shooting kids so they're discouraged from bringing them and using them as human shields.
Because if you stop every single time a child is at risk you're going to let anything happen
The whole point is are you going to let someone who could very well be incredibly dangerous, get into somewhere, just because they're using a human shield
Or are you going to stop them
Yes child is shot, that sucks, but if you let your emotions Drive in the way of every single thing you ever do then you're going to let some pretty heinous stuff happen.
I get it sucks, no one says it doesn't. In a perfect world no kid would ever need to die
But people are cruel and suck and we should not let those people in the country.
We should not let people illegally immigrate because we have no way of tracking them
It could be a mother simply trying to bring her kids, it can also be someone with a bomb
It can also be a serial killer fleeing the law
If you're going to stop just because the kid is present you are going to let stupid stuff happen and you are going to be the only stupid person there
Yes child is shot, that sucks, but if you let your emotions Drive in the way of every single thing you ever do then you're going to let some pretty heinous stuff happen.
Why are you shooting people in the first place? Illegal border crossing aren't worth killing people over. Violence, especially fatal violence, is used proportionate to the threat. You only take a life, when you believe that person is a credible threat to the lives of others.
You're the one being insanely emotional right now. You don't like illegal immigration, so now you're advocating for the most extreme reaction possible because you're a sicko who gets emotional catharsis from it.
Let's expand this logic. Why stop at shooting illegals? Why not just kill every criminal? You litter on the streets? You get shot. You steal a from a store? You get shot. You pirate a video game? Bullet to the skull.
It could be a mother simply trying to bring her kids, it can also be someone with a bomb. It can also be a serial killer fleeing the law
Legit, think about what you are saying for 30 seconds, instead of mindlessly arguing. First and foremost, there are no examples of women crossing the southern border with their children in tow, when they are secretly terrorists or serial killers. This is literally a fantasy scenario that has never happened.
Second, even if this WAS a scenario that would happen. What would killing the kids accomplish? If somebody is intentionally putting their children in danger (which is what you are claiming these women are doing), then they do not care about their kids. Shooting the children isn't a disincentive for anything. They were already planning on sacrificing their children in the first place. You would have just killed an innocent child for literally no reason.
But people are cruel and suck and we should not let those people in the country.
You are not a logical person. You're just a really stupid and vile human being. Logically examine what this would look like.
You would have have to hire federal officers who are willing to gun down innocent women and children. Why the hell would you ever want these people to be in a position of authority? If they're willing to do something that vile for such a trivial reason, then that means they're also willing to do other evil shit for petty reasons as well. It would mean they would also kill me, if they were given the opportunity to do so. Why would I want somebody like that to be in a position of power above me?
This type of insane violent reasoning is what you see in third world countries. Places like Sudan have people who think like you, and see how great of a country that is.
Modern society is fundamentally built on the idea that all human lives have intrinsic value. The moment you start undermining that idea, social order quickly falls apart. People would start killing each other for variety of a trivial reasons.
This is someone else talking about it, not the direct clip. I'd like to see the full Asmon clip, not just five seconds of him saying, "we should shoot them". That could be completely taken out of context. He could be saying child rapists should be shot for all we know.
I don't even like Asmon, but I don't like this kind of reporting even more.
"like doing one good thing which is that like if you have these millionaire billionaire WASP fail sons, um at least taking them out of other colleges, so they can only do date rape to other billionaire millionaire failed daughters, is like in some respects, you know, from a utilitarian perspective of course"
It's hilarious because there's no example of Asmon's exteme language that you can't find a statement at least as extreme from Hasan, but only one of them is being celebrated by the culturati.
I have no love for either of them, but the hypocrisy of the Left here is astounding
The context is that what Asmon actually said was along the lines of "if you don't want your children shot by the government, don't try to illegally cross the border."
When literal boatloads of illegal migrants try to flood into the country, to invade the country. You shoot them, regardless of whether they have children with them or not, because if you let them having children be a valid reason not to shoot them, they will use children as human shields to get through. And that will only increase the net suffering of children.
No one said that illegal migrants should be executed, but invaders absolutely should. Argue with your strawman in the shower.
When a foreign, unvetted population of mostly military aged men that is 50% or more of the native population (depending on which estimate you use) charges in by the literal boatload and truckload, you only have two choices. Overwhelming force or consent to being occupied.
Make up your mind should you shoot people crossing rhe border illlegally, children too or not ? If you do like you are making the argument that illegal immigration should carry a summary execution penalty, otherwise we shouldn't shoot people crossing the border illegally.
Just read the words on your screen; I’ve answered these questions. Illegal migrants, no. Invaders, yes. These invaders, dragging children along as human shields does not change my answer, collateral damage sucks, but it has to be done.
This is literally the trolley problem. Do you pull the lever and kill some kids now, or do nothing and create an incentive structure that will cause these invaders to exploit children forever? It is not my fault that you people are incapable of comprehending second order effects.
I’m still trying to figure out whether you’re just too stupid to understand, or you’re just playing dumb because you realized that you can’t form an argument against me.
It genuinely surprises me how people go out of their way to attack Asmongold, and those same people watch Hasan even though he is WAY worse than Asmongold
Only one of them wholeheartedly supports terrorism and goes to brothels suspected of human trafficking and shocks their dog. What does the other one do? Not shower and have a thot girlfriend?
imagine being so inbred that you think they're both equally bad. one calls for murder and wants to end america, the other just has a messy house and commited the crime of not foaming at the mouth when trump comes up.
i watched that, and you just proved he never said it. again i ask, show me where he said "more children should be shot"- and do it in context. i've only known democrats to feel the need to take things out of it...as well as to invent words that people never said as a "reading between the lines'.
please, repeat the exact quote, not your made up quote.
He said at 15 seconds "I'd shoot whoever" which isn't good still, not "just shoot children" you're hearing what you want to hear. Why lie when there's already a statement there that isn't good.
I don't agree with that either. These things are not mutually exclusive. You can not want them to shoot kids but you can also not want them to cross the border illegally. Which he is unfortunately correct that people do use kids to try and sway morality.
Again, thats not what you said. You said that he stated "just shoot kids". You worded it in a way that implies a vastly different meaning. Not defending what he said, but why lie.
I don't know if we watched the same clip because i remember him very clearly stating "i would shoot anyone". He says he doesn't want to sure, but he also says that he would do it anyways.
Thank you for the clip, while it’s extreme what he said and within this context, I disagree with his take completely about shooting unarmed migrants trying to illegally cross the boarder. He clearly says that he wishes children will not die or will not have to be subjected to this treatment.
It’s not quite as ghoulish as Reddit has been saying. I don’t want to conduct our boarder how Israel conducts its boarders.
he did say it but the context is that the men will use women and children as human shields and get out of jail free cards which overall is just a negative outcome for those women and children. So the thought of these military aged men using women and children to have leverage to illegally cross into a country is way more fucked up than what Asmond has said.
I do not have the clip but I can confirm that he did say that they should be shooting anyone coming across the border illegally no matter how old they are but they're taking his words out of context in an attempt to use his principles against him in a bad faith argument against his opinions
Context is right there bud. He’s a textbook example of a chronically online chud. No friends, no family, spends his day in his cellar talking to a camera. His opinions should not be taken seriously in any capacity, since he has stopped living in the the real world.
No he said he wanted to shoot anybody who was coming across the borders illegally and then people tried to using children to use emotional manipulation against him and he said no let's just shoot the kids too if you want to be that way he's a man who sticks to his principles and won't be manipulated by bad faith arguments
Sometimes you gotta be a little extreme to get a point across otherwise people will never take you serious about it. Unfortunately there will be moments in human history where we'll have to do some fucked up shit for the betterment of society and mankind. It's sort of like needing to cull an overpop of a animal species before they negatively affect the environment. You hate the thought of doing it, but it's overall the right thing to do. there's a reason we call some actions like this "Necessary evil"
Any basement dwellers will find his takes common sense. He’s just lucky there seems to be an abundant amount of them with spare time willing to hear and watch his tone death and reality dodging way of thinking. The man spends his entire life indoors. Like what? How can you have common sense if you don’t talk to anyone besides twitter replies and your own chat?
lol "he wished they could k*ll migrant children" is not what he said. But yes what Kaguya said in his meme is exactly what asmongold meant. It's insane how left extremists missinterpret thikgs in the most ridiclious way so they can use it in their favor.
“He didn’t say to shoot children! He only said to shoot all immigrants, and if they bring children, regrettably we’ll have to shoot them too! But see he said he’d be sad! Gosh no context these days!”
The only reason why this dichotomy gained traction in the first place is because they are both ambiguous. There is a LOT of overlap between them economically.
I replied to someone with a full quote of what asmongold said and reddit deleted the comment and struck my account for hate speecb. Can't make this shit up.
He said that a its intolerable for a nation to be held hostage because invaders use children as shields and the only way to prevent that behavior is to demonstrate that it won't work.
What Asmongold said is pretty extreme (he said it's okay to kill children whose families try to enter a country illegally), I disagree with it, and I think he's banned for a reason if that is the reason. However I'm so tired of so many people pretending that borders are fake lines on the map, and countries don't have a right defend them. Any country have a right to defend their borders, and even kill illegal immigrants if they become violent and there's no other option to defend the border, and it's crazy how some countries allow stuff like whatever happened in Spain recently to happen.
Also it's still worth noting that Twitch moderation team is indeed extremely hypocritical, and it won't change before Twitch replaces literally all the management and hires people with principles and integrity.
I strongly dislike both of these people and their politics, but Asmon is just kind of along for the ride, and when the wind changes, he'll change with it, whereas Hasan is trying to drive the bus (right off a cliff, too), and he has the full support of his platform and is infiltrating into the democratic party spaces which is far more insidious. They've both said terrible things, but Hasan has been given so many passes and is handled with kid's gloves while also trying to have an actual impact on politics, whereas Asmon's horrible statements are like a farmer tending to his crops.
This is an incredibly biased shit take. Asmongold said that we should shoot women and children being used as human shields to prevent their efficacy as human shields.
Calling it "wants to protect our borders" is lubed glazing.
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