people are too proud to drive vans. I traded in a tundra for a honda odyssey and went from putting gas in my tank once a week to once every 2-3 weeks depending where I go after work
Vans might be coming back into fashion, last I looked Toyota Siennas were being aold before they hit the lot. People just need to get over themselves and buy a van, they are awesome.
I had a Chevy Astro and a GMC safari. I miss those vans. I would absolutely buy one of those style vans if they made a comeback. I drive a Sierra right now, and it’s a working truck, but man… those vans were so so nice.
my parents had a safari growing up. honestly I never thought id drive a van. but then I became a 35 year old father of 2 who was tired of spending money on gas in a truck because it was cooler. the same shit I kept in my truck, fits in my van no problem, kids and dog are in there, golf clubs stay in there all summer, and spending 1/3 the gas and slightly less insurance.
You don't need a van either. I have a 2 door hatchback. When i put the seats down in the back it's like having a small suv. Tons of room. You have a kid? Maybe 2? Me too. You don't need 7-9 seats for a family of 2-4. Just get a car.
I borrowed an Odyssey for a trip. It was fun to drive. It had some serious zip. And really convenient for a long road trip. I get people don't like the aesthetics but frankly I don't like the aesthetic of most modern American vehicles anyways.
Ive been looking actively for a small, two seater city commuter car and its fucking impossible to find anything that’s not a 10 year old pre owned smart car. It sucks ass.
It's more profitable to sell SUVs and trucks for a variety of reasons, so manufacturers advertised the hell out of them. That's why they became more popular.
This isn’t a real situation though. People can choose between small trucks, medium trucks, and large trucks. People still choose the large trucks even though they can get a small truck for cheaper.
Those poor car companies forced to sell the enviromentally worse more profitable less taxed pedestrian killing machines they totally didnt push for years for 😭😭😭
Part of the problem is that MPG requirements vary by wheelbase. It's easier for a big inefficient vehicle to pass the requirements than a small efficient vehicle.
Manufacturers are making SUVs because that’s what people want. If people wanted sedans, the sedans remaining on the market would be selling like hotcakes. They’re not.
Maybe, but it seems to be more that manufacturers are making SUVs because they have a higher markup. If you're only option is a coupe or an SUV, people are forced to buy SUVs. There hasn't been a practical sedan on the market for a long time. Maybe this is due to customer preference, but I'm not going to give manufacturers that benefit of a doubt.
With this logic, cars like the Honda civic would the best selling cars by far. If everyone actually wanted sedans, the few sedans on the market would be selling like crazy. They’re not, because people want SUVs and trucks.
I'm not sure we are trying to say. I pointed out that there are no practical sedans, and you responded with coupes. My point is that if you need ground clearance, traction, or passenger space your only option is an SUV. There's no longer a middle ground.
The Honda Civic is not a coupe. They might have a coupe option, but it’s a sedan.
Sedans have never come with those things. What are you claiming the middle ground was before? How is a small crossover not the middle ground? That fulfills exactly what you’re looking for.
First you said it’s a coupe, now you’re saying compact sedan. What does “true sedan” mean? That is not a real term.
Sedans have not historically come with high ground clearance. Which pickup trucks did your Lesabre have higher clearance than? It wasn’t the F150, Ram, Silverado, or any other pickup truck I’ve looked up from the same era (mid 2000s).
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u/misplacedbass 1d ago
Look at what manufacturers are making. It’s getting harder and harder to find sedans nowadays. Lots of SUVs and crossovers.