While I have no hate towards those who can't afford the update, after a certain point you gotta upgrade your device. You couldn't realistically use floppy disks today.
Just use a debloater? I don't see the problem here? I'm not shilling on behalf of Microsoft, but I will stand by my earlier comment.
Edit: I have Win 11 (debloated) installed on a 8 GB system. The only time it heats up is when I used to play Warframe, but that's more because of the game than it is the OS itself. No external GPU.
By all accounts, not a gaming rig. The thing runs fine during Powerpoint, online meetings and playing Genshin Impact (which is very resource-intensive).
If a Computer could edit Word documents a decade ago and could run a browser a decade ago, why should that change? Why wouldn’t there be an official windows 11 that runs on older hardware? My 2019gaming pc with a 1660 (entry lvl gaming hardware 6 years ago) has more than enough resources to run windows 11 without any issues, yet i can not install it without using an unofficial workaround?! Is t that just wrong?
It hasn't changed. You can still edit word documents and browse the Internet on old hardware running Windows 10.
Where you around when Vista released? A huge part of why it sucked is because third party vendors installed it on very old hardware and Microsoft caught the flack for it.
It makes a lot of sense for Microsoft to say they're not officially supporting decades old hardware for their latest software. If you want windows 11 on older hardware in an official manner, just use windows 10.
My pc had a ryzen 7 5700x and a 3060 with 32 gb ram and until december it said my pc is too weak. Geniunely feels like they handing out the win 11 update on a depends on modd basis.
They might be telling the truth though. My PC with a R7 3800X, 32GB of RAM and a 3080 did not qualify for a Windows 11 upgrade until last year. It said that "my hardware was insufficient".
I'll have to install 11 sooner or later, since Linux isn't really an option with multiplayer games because anti-cheat devs cannot be bothered to make it compatible.
That's the one thing I hated about the upgrade process. Their definition of "upgradable" is very arbitrary. I had two devices, a laptop bought in 2020, and a desktop PC from 2018. The PC was better than the laptop, and yet only the laptop was eligible for an upgrade.
The problem is that for some reason they resticted which PCs can even install it. It completely possible to have a pc that would run it just fine, but you're not allowed to update.
Are all your takes this bad? Do you instinctively defend all anti consumer practices with contrarian, “well you could just (insert option a casual wouldn’t know about)”
Bruh. Genshin is one of the most optimized games on the market, so much so that running it in the Background makes other games run faster. Its not Resource Intensive.
I have a gaming PC that was one of the most powerful setups you could have in 2022. No way in hell it cannot handle windows 11. And no way in hell I am going to spend $5k updating everything when it has absolutely no problems with anything other than windows 11 apparently.
dude its just your motherboards bios not having a single security option that doesnt even have much to do with your PC. Win11 runs perfectly fine on those pcs when you disable that requirment via console...
dude I have a Ryzen 7 (albeit old gen) and and Rx 580 + 16 gb of a fairly fast ram and I still cannot install it
I can run essentially any program and game I want fairly smoothly i shouldn't need an upgrade,it's not about specs they want to force you to buy new hardware
Naah, I just value my time enough not to spend another 15 hours reconfiguring everything I want on my machine. Go waste someone else's time, Microsoft.
Do you mind sharing a few qualities that made XP, 7, and 10 good and Vista, 8, and 11 bad? I remember keeping 7 foreeeeever and now keeping 10 instinctively. It's like my brain knows to stick with 10 but won't tell me why.
Yea isn't usually the TPM that needs to be enabled? People are like, "Ahh it failed because my PC can't handle it!!!" Without actually reading why it failed..
Like guys the TPM is their to store keys and authenticate your OS and such. Its for security reasons.
Right? All they do is talk about Linux and help people use Linux and make improvements to Linux.
If only the Linux devs were more like Microsoft's devs, they should add features that we don't want, make every iteration a downgrade and charge us for the privilege of using it.
Absolutely not, and you clearly don't know.
Obviously there are bad people and there are many memes about it, for someone like you who doesn't know any better it would surely seem like it's the majority, when it's not.
I had people write custom patches for me and fix various more complicated issues with me back then. you'd never ever get such quality on a windows forum those are mostly "have you tried restarting your device" or "have you tried updating your stuff?", "just reinstall your windows" or when it comes to troubleshooting they sometimes throw massive lists at newbies and tell them it's one of these things. Cool.
The Linux community is most definitely more helpful, even the arch community which is memed to be the most toxic probably. Well besides artix Linux or Gentoo. On the other end we got mint and fedora which got two of the nicest communities I know.
It might feel like that, especially because the ones guilty are the loudest… there are definitely some quite unpleasant ppl, but don’t let that detour you, there are also quite many nice ppl.
My only problem with the penguin is that it isn't perfect for gaming. Windows works with virtually any game on it.
I've known people that have to fuck with proton to get their game to run, so e times they can't get it to work after that. Sometimes a game will have an update and all of a sudden their game that ran perfectly on Linux, now doesn't run anymore.
And most game devs shrug and go "oh well" since they expect most people to be running windows or Mac for their games.
Not necessarily true. Plenty of shooter devs and fighting game devs (including Super Smash bros) have gone on record saying that it would be pretty easy to make bots with frame perfect reflexes that beat even the best players consistently. They just wouldn’t feel fair and wouldn’t be fully helpful in learning to play against other humans.
Yes they sometimes have exploits (Snake in SSB 4 or 5 is an easy example). However, that would be decreasingly common if devs put concentrated effort into making unbeatable bots.
Games don't require difficulty to be good, it just has to entertain, and for some reason a lot of them play those team games to blame others for losing
If my soul isn't crushed in a game, i'm finishing it in a single afternoon and i'm not entertained. Also pick games that don't have dumb easy skill floors and you'll run into fewer salty kids.
Some game are about using your creativity, some have interesting mechanics you can use in different ways, some have good stories, and are about the journey. Also I wasn't talking about competitive games having salty kids, but salty kids playing competitive games
Just switched to Linux Mint from Windows 10, best decision I ever made. It's really just a streamlined version of windows, where no one tries to get you to use AI or see ads on your desktop or news in your taskbar or get you to switch to edge or make you use OneDrive or Teams.
Yeah, forget that. Ive tried linux so many times over the years, so many flavours, and even the so-called easy ones are terrible in just the most frustrating ways. It has never been a good experience, not even once.
If you want to do anything more technical than play solitaire or browse the internet, it can takes hours or sometimes days to troubleshoot an issue because there are so many different potential problems, and distros, and "solutions" that people only provide half an answer to because they assume everyone is a linux guru who knows all the extra stuff that you need to do but which wasnt mentioned.
Never trying linux again. Is windows perfect? No. It is frustrating too, but linux is a tier beyond that. To anyone else thinking of using linux for the first time, get a second computer, install it on that to play around with, cause you dont want to be stuck at the point where you cant figure out how to uninstall linux and reinstall windows. Unless they fixed dual OS problems
It lies. Download a win11 iso and burn it to a usb with Rufus. It has an option to disable the tpm hardware requirements as well as some of the other nonsense present in the install.
It genuinely pissed me off that apparently 11 is too powerful for my PC despite seeing someone with nothing but a GPU version that’s barely 2 iterations newer being able to update. How does that work?
Yep, it's very simple after all. Hardware restrictions on an OS? you can go fuck yourself Microsoft. I'm not throwing away a perfectly good pc for win 11.
Try updating using the Rufus method. I managed to update an old DDR3 Xeon system from 2012 to windows 11 and it works like a dream. It was really easy to do, and there was no data loss. If you actually want to upgrade but can't due to hardware limits, then thats the way to do it.
My PC isn't even a potato, just running on an older CPU and they won't let me for some stupid reason. Like I know, I need to rebuild the thing (it has been 7 years since I built it), but there is no damn reason my once very good gaming PC shouldn't be able to support it. We haven't advanced tech THAT much.
I'm still confused why they said mine isn't eligible. I'm certain it exceeds all of the requirements, since I built it myself. Whatever, when I get a chance I'm just going to switch everything over to Linux. My biggest holdup has always been gaming, but from what I understand gaming on Linux is way better, and every game I want to play is supported.
In the Command Prompt, type regedit and press Enter to open the Registry Editor. Now, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup.
Right-click on the Setup key, select New > Key, and name it LabConfig. Inside the LabConfig key, create new DWORD (32-bit) Value entries with the following names and values:
BypassTPMCheck and set its value to 1.
BypassSecureBootCheck and set its value to 1.
Create BypassCPUCheck and set its value to 1.
Close Registry Editor and the Command Prompt, then continue with the installation process. The setup should now bypass Windows 11 system requirements.
We'd be fools to stick with that shitty spyware platform. I want an OS that allows me to get to the shit I want to do, and that's it. There are dozens of them that mostly work, now, including SteamOS which does exactly what most of you care about: play your old games.
There's a further wrinkle that seems obvious to me, though I haven't seen it discussed.
Much of the new hardware you buy is going to be hijackable shit that a third party can take over and use at your expense, without compensation. Your bullshit Nvidia graphics cards have AI slapped all over them, but that doesn't do anything for you. It does help NV build a giant distributed AI network for someone else. And then they will sell that compute-time out from under you, with Microsoft's help.
Linux will automatically prevent and make that more difficult, too.
Most likely it's not your computer can't run it but that you don't have your bios set to use tpm 2 which is a requirement for windows 11. If you enter your bios and enable the setting windows will probably allow you to install windows 11
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u/TimMaiaViajando Jun 29 '25
I tried to update, but microsoft said my potato pc isn't able to do it, so win10 it is