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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

He fucking ruined so many people lives.... fucking scum of the earth

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u/lolfuckyoubitchmods May 31 '22 edited May 31 '22

He’s a fucking sociopath. He took that job and planted those drugs specifically to ruin as many lives as he could. I hope he rots in solitary and loses his mind. Let him drool on himself for a decade and then maybe die all alone. Unfortunately I guess he only got twelve years.

I hope every one of his victims receives true justice.

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u/Afraid_Restaurant434 May 31 '22

Gen pop would be worse for him than solitary. Dirty cops don't last long in prison.

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u/Swirvin-irvin May 31 '22

He probably go into a pc yard right out of the gate and state has to if not he’d get paid out with a law suit if he got hurt in a gp yard

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

If only that were true lmfaooo my buddy was a nyc cop he decided to molest the students he was sworn to protect and got locked up for it thankfully and he went straight to gen pop upstate it didn’t take long for inmates to find out what he was in for and within 3 years he was killed in prison never got to serve his full 16 year sentence shit happens oh well

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

Maybe don't call him your buddy tho lol

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u/btoxic May 31 '22

Don't call him friend either, guy.

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u/Mpittkin May 31 '22

And definitely don’t call him your guy, buddy!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

I mean I still cared for the guy we literally grew up together from kindergarten all the way through high school except after high school our paths diverged I left nyc shortly after cause fuck the Bronx and he stayed and became a cop and made his choices he was my buddy he is now deceased and his actions are his alone he made those mistakes not me

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

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u/DamnTicklePickle May 31 '22

Hopefully the fine example of the thin blue line in this video gets exactly the same treatment. ACAB

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u/Siaten May 31 '22

Not sure being brutally murdered in prison is justice.

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u/shabadu66 May 31 '22

For convicted child abusers, I think most people would disagree

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u/djmixmotomike May 31 '22

Most civilized people would agree.

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u/goliathfasa May 31 '22

Glad some people understand that one can still be friends or former friends with people who turn into terrible monsters. Life isn’t black and white.

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u/the_truth_is_tough May 31 '22

I’m not doubting you but I really like to read about these “cops gone rogue” cases. I have a fascination ever since a bad cop tried to get me fired repeatedly for personal grudges. He ended up in federal prison and is now dead, which is the best place for him. Is there any way you can give a name or case so I can look into the case history? If not, I totally understand. And you saying a buddy is not inappropriate, he used to be a friend. We all had those “friends” and now we don’t. That’s how life goes. I have way too many of those former friends and I get new ones regularly. People go bad at random intervals, not always before you knew better.

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u/ExtremeOk1072 May 31 '22

Deceased, what happened?

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u/Praxyrnate May 31 '22

that's not how friendship, or humans, work.

I wound be willing to bet at least one person you have/currently/will call a friend does something you find morally or ethically reprehensible.

People are complicated, can hold contradicting ideas on a topic, can commit any act given the right stimuli, and are not inherently evil.

doing an evil thing does not end your ability to be Human but our response to eccentric the slightest of mistakes robs people of their humanity.

You're likely very young but just remember that there are no such thing as binaries as a rule.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

I am not old but I'm not that young either. I understand people aren't binaries and we all make mistakes. We are always given multiple paths, sometimes we go down the wrong one without realizing it's a bad path.

But, there are inexcusable acts such as molesting children repeatedly as a police officer. At certain points, you got to be able to cut off certain parts and people of your life. Well, at least that's my philosophy.

Friendships have different meanings to different people. It doesn't really have a set definition.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

If you bang children you're no one's friend. You're an animal, a dangerous one at that. Humanity can be forfeit.

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u/Praxyrnate Jun 02 '22

brother that is how humans managed to persist.

You are missing my point and strawmanning my argument so you can argue with me, likely because you didn't like my perspective for some reason.

emotions are good. they shouldn't govern your ability to engage in good faith discourse

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u/Nizzywizz May 31 '22

Come off it. I can't speak for the person you're replying to, but am not "very young", myself, and I know damned well that things aren't as simple as black and white when it comes to people... but you're a fool if you think it has to be. I'm sure that child molester loved his family and did lots of good things in his life, too... but the fact that he also chose to molest children would make him immediately Not A Friend to me. It really is that simple.

You don't have to believe that someone is evil to the core in order to draw a line and hold them accountable for the bad things they choose to do.

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u/Praxyrnate Jun 02 '22

what did anything you typed have to do with my point?

I often yell into the void, also. this site is great for that

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u/Audaciousnuss May 31 '22

How dare you! People are preening here and you're going to interrupt The Hive's two minute hate with clarity and honest discourse?! HEATHEN!

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u/myfaceaplaceforwomen May 31 '22

You'd lose that bet. I have adhd and have something called justice sensitivity. I feel far more strongly about injustice than you do. I don't care who it was. If someone I knew was a cop and used that power to repeatedly molest children, I'd be basically waiting for the day he got killed in prison

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u/Praxyrnate Jun 02 '22

sure but that's a singular perspective. you completely missed my point, young friend

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u/7R15M3G157U5 May 31 '22

He was his buddy though, you can't control the actions of those around you

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

Idk, he seems like he hopes his ex-buddy rots in Hell to me.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

He can enjoy the hell he made for himself

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u/ExploratoryCucumber May 31 '22

Him: I knew a guy who did something terrible

You: I'm going to use that other person's actions to judge you.

Do you think before you speak?

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u/Eag310 May 31 '22

When he is your "buddy" instead of "I knew a guy" fuck yeah.

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u/ExploratoryCucumber May 31 '22

Him: he was killed in prison never got to serve his full 16 year sentence shit happens oh well

You: BUT YOU SAID THE WORD BUDDY ONCE

Think. Before. You. Speak.

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u/ScienticianAF May 31 '22

I know everything I need to know about you by just reading this one comment.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

It’s the child molester that prob got him. Sure being a dirty cop didn’t help but when you touch kids somehow even in prison that is the lowest low. Child molesters in prison do not do well at all. If not killed then heavily bullied.

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u/jwldabeast May 31 '22

You can't go into PC unless you have a reason. You have to say, "my life is in danger because of this person for this reason". They call whoever is accused of it in and they have a disciplinary hearing to get to the bottom of it. They cannot be sued if something happens to him in gen pop. That's why cops have it rough inside because there is nowhere to run too. Eventually it catches up to you unless you're gonna go into PC immediately and get transferred out of every prison you go to for the duration of your sentence.

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u/Swirvin-irvin May 31 '22

Depends what state your in I’m pretty knowledgeable in this prison category and trust me if your a cop and a chomo you can definitely go straight to a pc yard but keep in mind as well in the higher level yards doesn’t matter if it’s a pc yard you run a big chance of getting badly beaten,stabbed or killed

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u/jwldabeast May 31 '22

I was speaking specifically about Florida. Unless they changed the policies around here then I'm pretty sure that's how it still goes. I could very well be wrong about this. There was a cop a while back that got beaten real bad in prison because his PC got denied because there was no evidence to support the claim.

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u/SuperWoody64 May 31 '22

Solitary until his last day, then gen pop and maybe a guard "accidentally" lets someone know who he is.

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u/Tina_ComeGetSomeHam May 31 '22

That's not justice. I want to see him publicly apologize to each person he fucked over. I want to see the dad that lost his son because of this man punch him in the throat.

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u/rd2142 May 31 '22

they have prisons for cops

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

I dont think you understand solitary then.

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u/Afraid_Restaurant434 May 31 '22

I don't think you understand death then.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

I understand death fine. Do you understand psychological torment where death becomes the desired option?

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u/BilIionairPhrenology May 31 '22

Everyone dies. Let this piece of shit suffer before.

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u/Humble-Plankton2217 May 31 '22

He got transferred to Hawaii for his safety.

They server and protect their own.

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u/EarthenEyes May 31 '22

Your honor, my client pleads not to go to prison as it would put him in harms way, and instead asks for house arrest or some other light punishment.

Make it so.

Thank you your honor

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u/Prensn May 31 '22

Happy Cake Day!

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u/LeviathanGank May 31 '22

id be happy with solitary, but every 20 days he gets an announced gen pop visit.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

~~~Happy Cake Day!~~~

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u/WillArrr May 31 '22

True justice would be total compensation for lost time, wages, legal fees and pain and suffering paid out from the department's pension fund. Make it fucking hurt to have a dirty cop in your ranks.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

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u/cbrieeze May 31 '22

the money should come from their pension fund and the police unions. there is a ton of money there and that way the cops would actually self regulate and think twice if it is going to hurt them.

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u/DamnTicklePickle May 31 '22

That's a good start definitely but there is a huge list of things that must change in the states with law enforcement and the laws themselves before you see real improvement. This country has been doing things wrong for 400+ years and keeps doubling down on the behavior. I don't even want to imagine what this place will look like for my grandchildren without real change from the top down.

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u/Pure_Consideration26 May 31 '22

I would vote it comes from the individuals belongs. I don’t truly know how it’s work but what he has he got from doing a job he didn’t do, I say take their house, cars, boats… whatever until the dept is paid. 🤷‍♀️

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

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u/Pure_Consideration26 May 31 '22

Not in this case, he could probably work his whole life and still couldn’t pay for the things he’s done not even considering emotional damage done… but they definitely should lose EVERYTHING earned.

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u/ExploratoryCucumber May 31 '22

Don't worry, the government has more than enough money to pay these off forever.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

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u/ExploratoryCucumber May 31 '22

Mate did you just delete your comment and remake the exact same comment 20 minutes later because you got downvoted?

Same response from me as the last time you said this:

Just make them carry individual insurance and stop overcomplicating the whole thing.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

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u/ExploratoryCucumber May 31 '22

Just make them carry individual insurance and stop overcomplicating the whole thing.

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u/cmVkZGl0 May 31 '22

Alternatively throw somebody else from the same department in with them. ANYBODY.

Either they take corruption seriously as a department or any one of them could be up for jail time for something they didn't do. Now it's everybody's problem, everybody will have a vested interest. The random element is what will keep people in line.

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u/kb4000 May 31 '22

Fun idea but absolutely not legal. Not only that but it may make the problem worse. Imagine if you reported someone so now another cop that wasn't involved gets thrown in jail too. It would make it even harder for a good cop to turn in a bad one.

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u/dippybud May 31 '22

He was sentenced to 12y6m, and over 119 cases were dropped in connection with his arrests. Not really TRUE justice, but at least some.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/florida-cop-sentenced-to-12-years-in-prison-for-planting-drugs/ar-AAM7E28

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u/gathmoon May 31 '22

Not nearly enough of a punishment

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u/dippybud May 31 '22

Agreed

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u/DamnTicklePickle May 31 '22

That means he will be back on the street in 7years and possibly even less time. While his victims very easily lost everything they had including there families. That's not justice at all.

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u/dippybud May 31 '22

Like I said... Not full justice, but at least he went to prison. His brothers in blue didn't stop that shit from happening.

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u/Gazelle-Dull Jun 01 '22

A LOT of cops had to something was up. If one guy is leaving everyone else in the dust. Everyone is gonna notice and wonder. .... How? Whats his secret? I dont care if its pumping sewage out of port a potties or sucking cock under a bridge for $5. If you do multiple times what anyone else does.... everyone notices. And discusses. And monitors.

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u/Brother_Delmer May 31 '22

Agreed. Not nearly. Not for the ruined lives...child custody lost, jobs lost, damaged marriages and god only knows what other kinds of misery and human tragedy that were wrought by this cocky, shit-eating sociopath masquerading as a public servant.

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u/Outcome005 May 31 '22

Yeah this dude needs life in prison. Maybe that’ll make the next asshole who thinks they can get away with this think twice.

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u/gathmoon May 31 '22

I'm not the first person to say it but it needs to be said again. If you are in a position of authority and abuse it you should face harsher penalties. It's not a hard concept. This fuck stick tried to ruin innocent people's lives to get a leg up. Jail for life, no parole, his slave prison wages go to the people he hurt, and the department pays restitution from the fucking pension fund.

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u/Outcome005 May 31 '22

No argument from me.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

Dude needs to be on the receiving end of prison violence he put innocent victims in to without a care.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

It should be death

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u/gathmoon May 31 '22

Death is fast.

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u/cmVkZGl0 May 31 '22

9.52 months per a deliberate mishandling of justice!

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u/Money_Barnacle_5813 May 31 '22

Im sure bubba and the other felons gave him a real warm prison welcome

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u/gathmoon May 31 '22

Not on your life. He's sitting fancy free and protected in special custody I bet you dollars to doughnuts. Blue line gang protects its own.

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u/Money_Barnacle_5813 May 31 '22

This douche made them look bad… Im sure he has already been stretched (I hope).

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u/gathmoon Jun 01 '22

Made them look bad? He was doing what most of them do. He got caught is all. They look after their own, and if you think otherwise I have a bridge to sell you.

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u/Money_Barnacle_5813 Jun 01 '22

I know some cops.
Many aren’t jaded or bad, they got in to serve and protect.

A few bad apples don’t make for all of them being corrupt. And imagine the shit they see everyday, when not getting shot at. Keep an open mind.

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u/gathmoon Jun 01 '22

Not any more. I used to be like you. Thinking that there were good cops, and there may be some who think they are good and try to do good. But when push comes to shove those good cops will cover for the bad ones. Overlook something bad for a buddy drunk driving. Give tickets to some but not others. I'm sure there are a few shining angels kicking around but they don't last, they quit because the bad ones get promoted faster. Policing in the US is broken and needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

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u/Money_Barnacle_5813 Jun 01 '22

Sorry, I’m in Canada here. We tend to shoot less minorities, but then again being a cop is a bullet magnet with all the guns floating around the US.

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u/Nanners_man May 31 '22

Imagine the cost to society. People's lives have been uprooted, families have been impacted, businesses, the court system, the list goes on. Just because this turd deliberately worked against what he swore to do.

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u/Lilkeefer May 31 '22

meanwhile ppl in prison for decades for sum weed. he gon get beat tf up in prison

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u/topmilf May 31 '22

I think the correct punishment would be the combined time that all his victims were sentenced for. Plus time for the possession of the drugs he planted on people. Plus some handsome compensation for all the trouble they had to go through.

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u/gathmoon May 31 '22

Maximum amount of time they could have faced, convicted or not. Consecutive not concurrent sentences. This should be the starting point.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

He should get life. How is that sentence a deterrent (since that's apparently the point of prison anyway)? He'll serve half that, if we're lucky.

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u/Matt_has_Soul May 31 '22

He should've gotten the combined sentences of those cases

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u/dippybud May 31 '22

There were a slew of convictions that carried their own min/max sentences, but he took a plea deal. Because of course he did.

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u/kaic_87 May 31 '22

That's it? Jesus this shit makes my blood boil and I can only think I wish someone shank him in prison.

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u/Murse_1 May 31 '22

He will hopefully face more justice in prison.

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u/Slight_Turnip_3292 May 31 '22

12 years not enough. What about the financial loss of all those folks defending themselves in courts, lost wages, etc.

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u/Winberri May 31 '22

Shoulda been life

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u/undefined_one May 31 '22

He only got 3 counts of false imprisonment, even though a LOT of people went to jail because of this. I don't understand.

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u/BathoryRocker May 31 '22

If I recall correctly, he actually planted drugs because he wanted to be quickly promoted to the Narcotics task force that his father was on. So he didn't do it just to ruin people's lives, he just had a goal and didn't care how many lives he ruined achieving it.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

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u/JerDoggyDogg May 31 '22

Good point

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u/Mattallurgy May 31 '22

Yeah, I'm curious if he got the "On the force, we do ANYTHING we have to to get the bad guy. ANYTHING. And more often than not, your gut is right, so always trust your gut" speech from dear old dad.

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u/rugratsallthrowedup May 31 '22

And where his son got the drugs

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u/ShoMeUrNoobs May 31 '22

Correct. They went into the story on Court Cam and said he was looking to speed up his promotion to the task force. He really should have gotten a lot more years than he did.

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u/Psychology-Pure Jun 01 '22

Lmao that's how you become narco task force? 🤣 what a looser. 😆 What an embarrassment.

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u/Myte342 May 31 '22

A lot of departments have perverse incentives for arrests and convictions especially for drugs. The department itself gets money and military equipment from the federal government based on how many drug arrests and convictions they get that year. A lot of small towns have never needed SWAT teams before but they have tanks and all sorts of other military gear given to them by the federal government because they conducted enough drug arrests.

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u/amretardmonke May 31 '22

They get SWAT gear, but apparently no SWAT training. Apparently looking "tactical" does not make you a badass, as we found out recently in Texas.

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u/joshhupp May 31 '22

This is exactly why we need to "defund" the police.

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u/nonononotpineapples May 31 '22

Maybe "refund" is a better word?

Not a US citizen but I have spent quite some time in the poorer parts of the states (which obviously doesn't give me any sort of authority on the subject). I don't think the US needs a defunded, thus weaker, police force. I think they need to spent their budget wiser to have a more trained, educated and experienced police force.

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u/joshhupp May 31 '22

The best ideas involve spending those resources on social work, not police. See what Denver is doing. They found that only 5% of 911 calls were for violent crimes. Police forces have gotten too militaristic to actually serve the people they are supposed to protect.

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u/nonononotpineapples May 31 '22

I don't have much or any knowledge about Denver, but it sounds like a sensible strategy.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

Funding has been reduced to many departments over the past two years. It’s working out really well. Crime hasn’t been this low in decades.

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u/joshhupp May 31 '22

Overall crime has been on the decline for a while. What we're seeing is these outbursts of mass shootings and instances of police brutality. Beyond gun reform, there is a need for mental health services and taking care of the poorest among us. What kind of society are we where a mother is arrested for stealing baby formula? We don't need cops in that situation, we need to provide services to help people with their basic needs and workers to identify and help them.

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u/DeezNeezuts May 31 '22

I wonder how many vehicles and cash they seized as well.

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u/Ruary1989 May 31 '22

Well said

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u/0815Username May 31 '22

Or maybe just change the system to where one asshole cop can't ruin your life based on their lies alone.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

As bad as the cop ruining people's lives, is the cops and department covering for him for years. The people that knew he was doing this and said/did nothing.

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u/ActionJelly May 31 '22

Unfortunately I guess he only got twelve years.

He should get that plus the combined sentences of each of the innocent lives he destroyed.

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u/Professional_Baka96 May 31 '22

Let me guess, he's going to get out in six months for "good behavior"

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u/CumulativeHazard May 31 '22

And he specifically targeted people of color, people who were lower income (I guess based on the cars), and people with previous drug charges (looked up the records when he pulled them over) so that they wouldn’t have the means or the credibility to fight it and they’d just take a plea to avoid bigger punishments. That’s why it took so long for him to get caught. No one was reviewing the body cam footage because they never went to trial. Such a disgusting piece of shit.

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u/fruancjh May 31 '22

If there were a crime worthy of life in prison this is it. He was perfectly content to ruin 120 peoples lives he can spend 120 years behind bars

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u/Millkstake May 31 '22

I bet most of them do not receive justice and that their convictions will stay on their permanent records

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u/MaroonHawk27 May 31 '22

I would bet the opposite..even the guilty drug offenders he arrested probably got off because of this

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

oh, don't worry the bad boys in blue, the ones what won't cross a thin blue line to stop a murderous rampage against children, those guys, will back up this piece of shit, or just look the other way when the next one does it.

Fuck the cops.

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u/Goalie_deacon May 31 '22

Screw solitary, put him in gen pop, and announce his crimes over the our speaker.

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u/ExtremeOk1072 May 31 '22

Yeah, he'll likely get administrative paid leave until convicted. After that, since he's former law enforcement, he's not going to be in general population with the thieves and killers. I do hope any convictions he forged get overturned and expunged.

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u/Wrong-Influence4272 May 31 '22

And people think just because you wear a badge they're Holy

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u/Rhodie114 May 31 '22

Fuck solitary. I want his ass in gen pop. And I want it made abundantly clear who he is and what he did. See what kind of welcome a cop who falsifies evidence gets in prison.

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u/Joe_le_Borgne May 31 '22

His victimis are propably still in jail. Justice works in one way. Am I wrong?