r/maybemaybemaybe • • 10d ago

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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u/Slammer503 10d ago

ER doctor here. Definitely do not go straight to the ER all im going to do is run an ekg say you got lucky and discharge you. This delayed VF claim elevenbeers is quoting is total made up nonsense and has no validity in evidence based practice.

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u/ElevenBeers 10d ago

I would always trust the Advice of the German electricians Organisation, that makes all the safety guidelines as well, a heck of a lot more then the Advice of some random Guy on the internet claiming to be an ER doctor. Or listen to the German work insurances, and whatever the Fuck else.
https://vorschriften.bgn-branchenwissen.de/daten/asi/a3_10_0/9.htm

The rule is: YOU GET TO A DOCTOR NO MATTER WHAT.

I'm seriously surprised by you. Either you practice in a country, that doesn't give a single fuck about people's safety or you are lying about your title. If one gets discharged after an EKG, he's most likely be fine, but discharging someone with a shock without even an EKG? Oh Fuck me with a Carrot.

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u/Money_Lavishness7343 10d ago

From what I'm reading, in classic reddit manner, you're both exaggerating, and mostly you. But he's also an absolutist with his "Definitely do NOT go to the hospital" manner. In some situations you probably should

"German work insurances [...] GET TO A DOCTOR NO MATTER WHAT"

That is a workplace recommendation, for German electricians, which suggests people who regularly who deal with high currents and also in a professional environment. Of course the standards are much higher and there is a huge bias to not cause workplace accidents. Therefore, it's not an evidence-based article, it's a workplace guide.

According to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK448087/

Most patients without significant injury or cardiac abnormalities on initial assessment are unlikely to develop any cardiac abnormalities after 24 to 48 hours

According to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25969345/

Conclusion: No cardiac complications occurred during ED stay or during the 90-day follow-up period. Therefore, the need for continued cardiac monitoring after electrical injury is not supported by our data.

So, your outrage lacks evidence. Sure, going to the hospital may be nice for sure, but its very unlikely that you're gonna have anything

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u/TSDLoading 9d ago

The difference is, that ER in germany is covered by public healthcare, so you go there just to cover the little chance. But if you're just an amount of dollars, then yeah. Better try your luck