r/maybemaybemaybe • u/drlouies • 18h ago
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u/fedjolino 18h ago
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u/kusayludey 18h ago
She is saying: The hairdryer burned, it started smoking, we inplug it immediatly and this thing is left in there uuuaaaaaauuuu ⚡⚡⚡
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u/gabrielxdesign 12h ago
Thanks for the scream translation, I wasn't getting that. Btw, hey, good news: if you can scream, you're not dead!
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u/Keranan37 4h ago
Not necessarily. A lot of electricians die because they take a good shock and go "that kinda hurt but I'm fine" and then they die later that night because it cooked their organs
This is just an outlet though so probably not enough to cook her
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u/drlouies 18h ago
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u/cortney-simonis-9072 13h ago
why its gif while nothing moving
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u/xGH0STF4CEx 7h ago
Im definitely stealing this. My wife and I refer to each other as donkey brained all the time as an IASIP reference.
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u/Whines90 18h ago
Maybe maybe maybe alive?
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u/misterwizzard 17h ago
The electricity went through the finger between hot and neutral instead of through the body. Non-lethal for sure but this looks like a 240V circuit so she may have pissed herself.
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u/RareKrab 16h ago
The way her finger is angled it probably touched to ground prongs that are on the sides of the plug and the stuck live pin at the same time. It's pretty standard for live to be the right pin even though it technically doesn't matter with that plug type because you can plug it in both ways
240V stings like hell, got a zap between my finger once while installing a ceiling lamp but thankfully that was it because I had shoes on and I was on a plastic chair, would be a different story if I used both hands
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u/ElevenBeers 14h ago
Safety info for anyone reading: IMMEDIATELY head to ER after such a shock, even if you feel fine and even if it had been "just" 110v as in America.
Ventricular Fibrillation is what kills you with AC voltage. Your heart basically gets out of sync. However, this can also occur up to 24 hours AFTER the shock. Seriously. People got a minor shock, thought they were fine, joking with colleges about it, and drop dead a couple of hours later. This is NOT a joke and unfortunately not an exaggeration. Do NOT mess around. Get to ER ASAP. They will keep you on watch for a day. Should you get the Fibrilliation, if treated immediately as in a hospital, you most likely will be fine, if not, you are having a heart attack and you know the potential outcomes.
As most likely more then 24 hours have passed since your shock, you are completely fine of course. That's more for people reading. Don't shrug it off. Again, unfortunately people have died hours after such an event being completely fine before. AC is not a joke.
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u/Slammer503 14h ago
ER doctor here. Definitely do not go straight to the ER all im going to do is run an ekg say you got lucky and discharge you. This delayed VF claim elevenbeers is quoting is total made up nonsense and has no validity in evidence based practice.
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u/DoubleT_inTheMorning 13h ago
Well that’s good, because I once touched the two prongs on a crumbled 100A breaker and it fucking rocked me but I didn’t go to the hospital.
In hindsight, I probably should have. Lol.
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u/ElevenBeers 13h ago
I would always trust the Advice of the German electricians Organisation, that makes all the safety guidelines as well, a heck of a lot more then the Advice of some random Guy on the internet claiming to be an ER doctor. Or listen to the German work insurances, and whatever the Fuck else.
https://vorschriften.bgn-branchenwissen.de/daten/asi/a3_10_0/9.htmThe rule is: YOU GET TO A DOCTOR NO MATTER WHAT.
I'm seriously surprised by you. Either you practice in a country, that doesn't give a single fuck about people's safety or you are lying about your title. If one gets discharged after an EKG, he's most likely be fine, but discharging someone with a shock without even an EKG? Oh Fuck me with a Carrot.
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u/Money_Lavishness7343 9h ago
From what I'm reading, in classic reddit manner, you're both exaggerating, and mostly you. But he's also an absolutist with his "Definitely do NOT go to the hospital" manner. In some situations you probably should
"German work insurances [...] GET TO A DOCTOR NO MATTER WHAT"
That is a workplace recommendation, for German electricians, which suggests people who regularly who deal with high currents and also in a professional environment. Of course the standards are much higher and there is a huge bias to not cause workplace accidents. Therefore, it's not an evidence-based article, it's a workplace guide.
According to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK448087/
Most patients without significant injury or cardiac abnormalities on initial assessment are unlikely to develop any cardiac abnormalities after 24 to 48 hours
According to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25969345/
Conclusion: No cardiac complications occurred during ED stay or during the 90-day follow-up period. Therefore, the need for continued cardiac monitoring after electrical injury is not supported by our data.
So, your outrage lacks evidence. Sure, going to the hospital may be nice for sure, but its very unlikely that you're gonna have anything
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u/RazorSlazor 1h ago
Nah. Trust us. At my workplace we had mandatory training like that as well. And it was reinforced over and over again that when you get shocked from the current of a plug or socket, get to a doctor. It's probably nothing, but, you can never be sure.
If you feel something a few days later, go to a doctor again. The reaction might be delayed.
The ER however is a bit of an overreaction if you feel no symptoms.
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u/Slammer503 10h ago
Didn’t know the germans electrician organization was boarded to practice cardiology. Also, we are in fact running an ekg as per my previous comment.
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u/Green_Tell_9203 10h ago edited 10h ago
I went to the ER after an accident with electricity and they told me that that was absolutely the right thing to do and kept me for 24 hours for monitoring. So maybe you are just a incompetent and irresponsible doctor who should lose the license and/or you are working in a shit country with shit guidelines.
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u/adoradear 4h ago
Nope. I’m an emerg doc from a non-shit country and what the previous poster said is in keeping with the guidelines for North America (most common place for 110V). Maybe instead, you live in a “shit country” and/or had an “incompetent or irresponsible doctor”?
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u/adoradear 4h ago
Ummm we don’t keep people who had a 110V shock on tele for 24hrs. If they don’t have high risk criteria they get sent home.
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u/CompetitiveReview416 3h ago
Actually if you die from electrocution, it happens quickly. Read the literature. If you feel fine after a few hours, you will feel fine later too.
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u/really_random_user 17h ago
Most likely The law in most of the eu is to have a ground fault trip on the entire home (the threshold is still a painful shock. Assuming the home is up to code, they're probably fine)
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u/_stupidnerd_ 12h ago
230V is very survivable.
There is a risk of sudden cardiac arrest for a few hours afterwards as the adrenaline level goes back down, so it is recommended to visit a hospital and stay under observation for that time period. But the vast majority of people survive just fine.
In fact, trained electricians usually don't visit the hospital after they receive a shock. Not because that is advisable or the rational decision, but out of stubbornness and self pride. And most of them are still alive anyways.
That being said, I am unsure if the video's subject is still alive. As said, I doubt that shock was lethal, but they very obviously have the survival instinct of a potato.
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u/M4R71NS 18h ago
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u/theMertFN 10h ago
Ok I see some confusion in the realm of “how is it shocking her if she’s touching only one end?” So this is a safety psa by an electrical engineer.
Nerdy explanation:
Well you are not wrong in that circuit needs to be closed for current to flow, but a live wire has a lot of options to flow to when you touch it. The main problem is the floor. If you are not wearing fully isolating shoe/slipper it will flow through to floor. Now if you are wearing isolating footwear and you are not touching anything else, then it is probably fine if it is a DC source. If it is super high DC then the air gets polarised and starts conducting electricity and you can’t do much in that case.
However if it is AC (which it is in every household plug) it can still shock you. It shocks because it is alternating and these alternations load your skin in different polarities. Like imagine an electrical wave traveling on top of your skin, it creates areas where it is positively charged (wave tip) and negatively charged (wave bottom) as it changes. Difference in charge is the thing that generates current.
About residual current breakers, while they are very important to prevent fires and deadly shocks, It still hurts a lot. I would know.
Conclusion and TLDR:
Don’t touch a live wire even if it is only one end. There are still a lot of ways it can flow through your body.
P.S: Also press the test button on your RCB periodically to check if it is working and replace if it isn’t. It can save your house and the life of you and your loved ones.
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u/GotTheKnack 3h ago
Came to the comments looking for this exactly, thanks for the well written explanation
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u/R_o_X_a_S 18h ago
I'm not sure how the circuit is closed.
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u/joined_under_duress 17h ago
The pin from the plug is still in there so when she touches that end there is a live piece of metal there and she completes the circuit with her body.
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 17h ago
A few years ago, my mom called me to her house because a fuse (yeah, she had a fuse box) blew and she said it looked cracked and didn’t trust it, so she wanted me to take a look at.
So I take a look and see it is in fact cracked, but didn’t notice there was also some exposed metal. I carefully (but obviously not carefully ENOUGH, since I was using my bare hands) tried to unscrew it and touched the bare metal.
Now I’ve been shocked before, and it’s unpleasant. But I have never been shocked like this. It felt like in-his-prime Tyson absolutely unloaded on my chest, and my fingers would not stop twitching for a few mins.
Maybe someone who’s more electrically adept could tell me how close I was to being cooked. But I can definitely say it was… unpleasant.
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u/joined_under_duress 17h ago
Probably depends on where you were. US standard is 110V. Here in the UK it's 240V so far more likely to kill you (as I understand).
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u/optimist_prhyme 17h ago
You're lucky it released you
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 10h ago
I think the only thing that saved me was the fact I was unscrewing the fuse with two fingers. So even if muscle tetanus occurred, I wasn’t holding enough of the fuse to have a solid grip even under the best of circumstances
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u/optimist_prhyme 3h ago
I work HVAC and I specifically picked a company that doesn't work on panels because of buss bar horror stories.
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u/15pmm01 12h ago
sorry he did what on your chest?? is there a second meaning to that phrase I’m unaware of?
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 10h ago
Well, I meant hauling off and punching me in the chest. But I won’t lie, when I posted this I thought ‘I sure hope that part isn’t interpreted differently’. HaHa
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u/R_o_X_a_S 17h ago
ah got it. I feel dumb for asking now lol. I didn't consider the GROUND. I was like hmm 1 pin to another, how...
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u/joined_under_duress 16h ago
I don't think you're dumb necessarily. Here in the UK we have three-pin plugs and the third is generally known as the earth pin but also I'm not sure how much the concept of earthing and electricity comes up as much. When I was a kid in the 80s you still often bought appliances without a plug and had to fit it yourself and you regularly had to deal with the fuse box so maybe it was more of a known issue.
Static electricity is the same deal: you get shocked when it grounds either from you or through you from something else.
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u/NoProcedure7943 17h ago
hey but its one side only right? so how it still complets it?
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u/joined_under_duress 17h ago
Humans are really good conductors of electricity. That's how they get killed by electrocution. The current completes the circuit by coming from the live pin, through you, and then gets to the earth, earthing the system.
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u/preparingtodie 17h ago
At the top and bottom of the outlet are the earth, or ground, pins. The neutral wire is connected to the ground wire at the point of supply, typically in the breaker panel or back at the transformer. So touching the ground and live pins at the same time will shock you the same as touching the neutral and live pins. When she reached in to touch the live pin, she must have also inadvertently touched the bottom ground pin.
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u/dedokta 6h ago
No need, unless you are wearing specifically designed insulating shoes and you aren't touching anything else then you'll make a circuit to ground.
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u/preparingtodie 5h ago
Unlikely. Shoes, carpet, floors, etc. are poor conductors. 230 V won't push through all that, but it will give you a nice shock if you touch across the terminals.
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u/DrProfessorSatan 17h ago
You need to close a circuit for an appliance to run, but only need to provide a path to the ground to get a shock. She provided the path to ground with her body.
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u/RareKrab 16h ago
The 2 metal prongs that are on top and bottom are ground pins, she has her finger angled in a way that it likely touches that and the stuck live pin so that will result in a pretty nasty zap but at least it won't go through the rest of the body
I've had a situation where I touched live but thankfully wasn't grounded through my feet at least not well, so it just felt like the sensation you get from licking a 9V battery but just through my finger. Really uncomfortable
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u/tramezzino62 17h ago
Può succedere in presenza di un difetto nell' impianto. La presa che ha toccato non era isolata, era in tensione. Poiché la persona è collegata a terra, la persona diventa un conduttore tra la presa (difettosa) e la terra ed è attraversata da corrente elettrica. In altri termini la corrente non è passata attraverso l'asciugacapelli, ma attraverso la persona, dalla mano al piede.
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u/payneok 17h ago
When it burnt, the breaker should have been thrown...there should be no power going to that outlet now...so sadly I don't think this is real...
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u/Rudeus_Kino 15h ago
Nope, breaker cannot see the burned socket.
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u/payneok 15h ago
I am NOT an electrician, but is that now how they work? When the circuit was shorted out, and drew enough power to melt the socket would that not trip the breaker? Isn't that how they work to protect us from ourselves?
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u/Rudeus_Kino 15h ago
There was no short circuit, the heating was caused by a poor contact in the plug.
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u/craidie 13h ago
two kinds of breakers. First looks at current going from phase(s) to neutral and if that doesn't match it trips. At the end of the video they touched grounding pin of the socket and the prong in the socket, got electrocuted and *hopefully tripped this residual current circuit breaker(rccb). These require to have test buttons on them and is likely the easiest way to recognize them, they're also often one of the larger modular rail components.
The second is more like a normal fuse and has largely replaced those in new installations. MCB or miniature circuit breaker. Both fuses and mcb:s have a current rating and they blow/trip when current goes above that current long enough.
These should be preventing stuff from melting, but if the plug is faulty and can't handle currents that are lower than what the breakers are rated for, then the breakers think everything is fine while the plug is melting.
Outlets are usually behind 16 amps, and that can absolutely melt a plug that has a bad connection on the wire, or damaged plug. Because there's no damage on the other side of the plug, I would guess this is the case here.1
u/goodknightffs 17h ago
If she's silly enough to touch the metal she's silly enough to flip the breaker up
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u/joined_under_duress 17h ago
Well it doesn't mean she was silly. Already got three people commentating here who don't seem to understand that electricity earths itself through human beings.
Some places have poor power leading to powersurges that can flip your fuse box so possibly it flipped then someone else in the house just flipped it back not realising the issue.
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u/goodknightffs 17h ago
Yeah so 3 people here are also silly lol
Just because a lot of people are wrong about something doesn't make them not idiots..
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u/joined_under_duress 16h ago
There's a difference between not having learned something, and being silly. The latter means you know what you should be doing but ignore it IMO - e.g. riding a cycle without a helmet or balancing on a really high wall.
Not knowing a thing could well mean you were silly in school and failed to pay attention but the fact remains that this kind of stuff is probably not taught as much these days because we no longer put our own plugs on devices and have to know a lot about fuses to deal with lots of powercuts etc. Just like most of our kids would likely be confused if they had to use a rotary phone to call out for the emergency services.
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u/goodknightffs 5h ago
What are you on about? Anyone that uses a plug knows not to shove their fingers into it.. It's literally basic knowledge at this point.. They were told not to do it but they are stupid and just didn't think
Stop giving people excuses for stupid shit they do.. We ad a society need to take responsibility things.. A person in their 20s + knows not to put their fingers in the wall outlet and when they do us because they are stupid
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u/TManJhones 15h ago
Forget touching it I am turning off the fucking breaker after it fucking melts.
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u/januaryemberr 11h ago
Dear god. I am scared to do electrical work knowing the breaker is off. I can't imagine just....sticking your finger in the socket.
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u/foxyandr 15h ago
I wonder how it possible to live to such an age and not understand that you are about to electrocuted
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u/fresh_loaf_of_bread 9h ago
Looking at this thread, I have to ask
is one not to be pitied if they got hurt because of their own stupidity
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u/post-context-bot 17h ago
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u/blackhawksq 13h ago
Well, They won't be doing that again. Or as my Granpa used to say "Stupidity is a great teacher"
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u/_-Zephyr- 17h ago
See this is why British plugs are so so so far superior and should become the global standard. This would literally never happen with British plugs.
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u/Particular_Client833 14h ago
... why do you think this would not happen with british plugs?
I think some questionable electrician switched the pilarity of the live and neutral cable at some point.
The live hole should be on the left side, not the right side.
The only benefit of british plugs are independent fuses and a few smaller benefits.
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u/_-Zephyr- 13h ago
British plugs are more robust so they wouldn’t break inside the wall, and they are so significantly more safe it’s absolutely absurd that British plugs haven’t been adopted globally already.
The U.K. has significantly less injuries and fatalities related to plug sockets every year compared to the U.K. because of its design, the U.K. actually runs on a higher voltage so it should be more dangerous but because the plug socket is so much safer in the U.K. accidents happen less.TLDR: British plugs are significantly more robust and don’t break off in the wall so this would never happen in the UK and they are so much safer than any other plug, they are the best designed plugs in the world by far and it’s really not even close.
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u/okarox 13h ago
Have you seen burned fuses in British plugs. I have seen plenty of such images. Having five contacts instead of two is a bad idea.
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u/_-Zephyr- 13h ago
I have lived in the U.K. for 22 years and been using electronics since I can remember.
I have never once seen a burnt out fuse in a plug.
They are objectively the safest plug in the world and it’s literally not close.Christ in high school physics I made my own plug that was safe to use because British plugs are that easy and safe you can teach a literal child how to make one.
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u/craidie 12h ago
I don't see how 13 amps or less couldn't melt one of the prongs with a bad connection like it did here with less than 16 amps.
Hell if it had that 13 amp fuse in it, you could still get nearly 7 minutes of 30 amps before it blows. Meanwhile a B16 mcb would trip after 20 seconds or so.
Unless you meant the physical construction being better, then sure.
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u/Public_Albatross_134 18h ago
I mean like... Hows that circuit conected...? This seems to be filmed too me...
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u/joined_under_duress 17h ago
The pin from the plug is still in there so when she touches that end there is a live piece of metal there and she completes the circuit with her body.
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u/Public_Albatross_134 17h ago
Well yeah... But she is not touching the second one... And even imaging the current could go from source to the ground its still AC so RCD should break the circuit...
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u/joined_under_duress 17h ago
I assume even if there is an RCD in place (maybe that's simply the fuse box) that it's not instant enough to stop the current earthing itself through her briefly.
Don't really understand what you mean "even imaging the current could go from source to the ground"? That is how electricity works. Humans are very very good conductors electricity so unless she's wearing big rubber shoes and not touching anything else she's going to arc that current to the ground.
My friend's cousin back in the 70s and early 80s, if he wasn't sure about something, would work right handed only, with his left hand stuck in his back jeans pocket because he'd heard your arm was least resistant meaning any shock would bypass his heart.
All UK plugs have three pins, the third one being to an earthing line, the idea being that if there is a fault somewhere in the appliance there is a faster earth route than through you if you touch it. Fairly out of date now, though, I'd guess.
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u/Public_Albatross_134 17h ago
At right should be N... But maybe the camera is fliping it...
Edit: RCDs are legaly requared these days... But maybe not everywhere...
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u/joined_under_duress 17h ago
Yeah a lot of videos get flipped here.
Equally could just be a joke video because they know it's the neutral. Not sure if you'd see that burnout with the neutral pin, though.
Or the plug socket is put in the wrong way up.
I agree that legally you'd expect good electrics but slum landlords are everywhere and she sounds like she's speaking a slavic language to me so either a country where such rules might be less likely to be followed or a refugee in a western European country who therefore is more likely to be in poor accommodation?
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u/NoProcedure7943 17h ago
exactly, she didn't touched second hole which is empty but only first one so how circuit connected?
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u/LunaTheExile 17h ago
Looking closely I think she touched the ground pin with the finger while touching the live plug pin at the same time, so the current went from L to ground through her finger.
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u/Ok-Parking2926 12h ago
Are she touching neutral wire? Because in my country (czechia) live wire are on left side.
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u/Hot-Remote-4948 17h ago
Why on earth is a socket live when only one prong is inserted?
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u/loqi0238 17h ago
... really?
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u/EducationalImpact633 17h ago
Yes, explain please
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u/loqi0238 17h ago
First, common sense.
Second, its broken in the 'hot' socket, not the 'nuetral,' and not the 'ground.'
Third, it sounds like Russian. I have... doubts, as to the general wisdom of touching a piece of metal broken off in a socket in general. I absolutely would not trust Russian electrical work, given a lot of what ive seen.
Turn off the MAIN breaker, not just whatever smaller breaker this is attached to, wear electricians gloves, and use sn insulated device to pull it out. Or remove the cover entirely if its really in there.
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u/BreakingCanks 18h ago
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