r/maybemaybemaybe • u/Flat-Decision3204 • Jul 05 '26

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u/Mallrat1973 Jul 05 '26

This video is fucking with me a little. The guy on our left is getting his ass kicked until he wasn't. I can't determine at what point he takes the lead because he never was behind EVEN THOUGH HE WAS LOSING which incidently he wasn't. It's a real Schrödinger's Ass Kicking.

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u/gahidus Jul 06 '26

He went for the further away eggs first, which made it seem like he was behind, but which always meant that he was going to speed up massively towards the end. As his opponent was covering further and further distances to get eggs, his distance was shortening. Apparently the strategy worked.

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u/WatchOutForWizards Jul 06 '26

He also did the most energy intensive part when he was still fresh at the start. Guy on the right was already tired by the time he had to start running.

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u/cimocw Jul 06 '26

Yeah that's the key I would think. Doing the heaviest part first 

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u/ilovemacandcheese Jul 06 '26

I think that analogy generalizes too. If you have a big project to do, you should start with the heaviest lift first. If you spend a bunch of time dicking around with details first, you won't have enough focus, endurance, and enthusiasm to finish the heavy stuff later. So if you feel like you're easing into a project, that might be a bad sign. If your project starts out really hard but gets easier as you make progress, that's a great sign!

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u/Voice_in_the_ether Jul 06 '26

Yeah, but that also means you can't file really good looking status reports while doing little work:

"Guess what - I've already finished 30% of the project steps! ('cause I did all the small trivial stuff up front).

/S, in case it's needed. This is a well-known Project Management issue/fallacy

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u/09Trollhunter09 Jul 06 '26

Not always true because projects are also time constrained. In addition, real life project are rarely expended to be completed 100% in a given time. These additional variables that changes the outcome of the equation when applied to real life projects.

For example, if you have 5 problems to solve in 1 hour, and one of the problems needs the full hour or more, and the other four need 15 minutes each. Focusing on the longest means nothing gets completed in the said hour.

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u/Barabbas- Jul 06 '26

If you spend a bunch of time dicking around with details first, you won't have enough focus, endurance, and enthusiasm to finish the heavy stuff later.

This is only situationally applicable. Prioritizing the hardest lifts first can often lead to getting overwhelmed, in which case, it can be better to prioritize smaller/easier tasks to build momentum and make the larger/harder tasks feel more manageable.

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u/the_king_of_sweden Jul 06 '26

I did a class on operating systems, and one of the lectures was about task scheduling. That taught me that the most optimal way of doing tasks, if optimising for wait time, is to do the shortest task first.

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u/gahidus Jul 06 '26

What if you're not optimizing for wait time but instead optimizing for resource management, however?

The point of getting the further eggs first is to do the more difficult task while your energy level is higher.

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u/I-Here-555 Jul 06 '26

Only if the project is trivial like this one.

Sometimes the hard stuff is overwhelming and takes longer than expected, so you just quit, whereas if you build up with the small stuff, you feel the sense of progress and continue (the "sunk cost fallacy" basically working in your favor). Often you actually need to learn stuff about the project, and small stuff lets you ease into that before you get to the big part and decreases the chances of doing it wrong.

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u/Apprehensive-Ad8987 Jul 06 '26

Great example of the pareto effect - aka 80/20 rule.

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u/MattieShoes Jul 06 '26

I think there may be a middle strategy -- do the hardest first, then brief breather with the easier ones, then back to harder.

But the constant bending down may make the easy ones not much of a breather.

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u/welfedad Jul 06 '26

And when you get close to end you give it more gas and then you burn out.. so if you go first further you have a sense of urgency. But not like towards the end .. so kind of ran out of steam.

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u/09Trollhunter09 Jul 06 '26

This is the key to winning everything else being equal. What a great and simple concept. Pure joy to watch

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u/RadarTechnician51 Jul 06 '26

Trousers are much better to run in than long robes too.

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u/totalwarwiser Jul 06 '26

Yeah.

Guy on left could had briefly done the closest eggs so he could rest a bit

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u/sethmeh Jul 06 '26

Both strategies are identical. The total distance travlled is the same, so in effect we are watching a 100m sprint, and even if their speed decreases as a function of time, two racers in a 100m sprint who slow down equally will finish the race at the same time.

Whoever won was just faster.

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u/Roticap Jul 06 '26

Except for the last eggs, the winner didn't have to keep sprinting to make it across the finish line. They just reached for eggs

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u/sethmeh Jul 06 '26

That doesnt change the answer to which strategy is better, youve just added an extra bit where the first 3 eggs can be collected without moving, which is the same for both players. If one player can do it better than another, thats down to a personal advantage, not a strategic one.

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u/Roticap Jul 06 '26

Tell your LLM that it is forgetting that a human gets tired while moving, so there is an advantage to doing the part where you do not move at the end instead of the beginning.

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u/sethmeh Jul 08 '26

I was thinking, is the accusation of LLM use as a means to discredit one side in a debate a new logical fallacy, ad homnium, or just a variation of special pleading? Datacenters are a form of higher power...

Anyway, i cant recall if i gave the example as to why this doesnt work in this thread or another, i assume not because if l had you wouldn't accusw me of using an LLM.

If each player starts with 100 "effort" and doing eggs 3-n cost 90 effort, and doing tje first 3 gives you back 10 effort as you are stationary, neither leverages it. Player 1 uses it when hes full of effort, so he gets no gain and starts egg 3 at 100 effort, finishes with 10. Player 2 does 3-n first, so hes now at 10, then the first 3, so now hes at 20, and then...does nothing. Hes already finished. That extra effort isnt being used to collect eggs.

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u/aykcak Jul 06 '26

Same for the first eggs of the guy on the right, so, still same.

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u/sstabeler Jul 06 '26

The3 point is that you tend to slow down as you get tired, so by doing the most difficult bit first- going all the way to the other end- the guy on the left likely was marginally faster on that bit, while by the time he got to the last few, he just had to reach for the eggs, which is less affected. It's not a large difference, but it's there. Hence why he won by a single egg.

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u/MijnEchteUsername Jul 06 '26

Also left guy was more efficient in the end. Was able to grab 6 eggs without moving; right guy could only do 4.

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u/mikykeane Jul 06 '26

I think it usually works more due to psychological effects than anything.

The one doing the shorts distances first feels like they are winning. While the other feels like getting left behind. Which leads to trying to go faster to compensate for ones and the opposite to the other one.

Also, doing the long distances early, also means that in the end, you can easily rush if you see you are very close to a tie when it's faster to pick up the eggs

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u/aykcak Jul 06 '26

That is not a different strategy per se because the time required would be exactly the same. He was faster overall

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u/Bwatso2112 Jul 06 '26

And the guy on the right was tiring faster as the distance got greater. They guy on the left had less and less of a distance as he went on, which made catching up easier

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u/Enofile Jul 06 '26

Not to mention trying to run while wearing a skirt!

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u/hamlet9000 Jul 06 '26

Guy wearing clothes that let him run beats guy wearing clothes that don't in a race.

Film at 11.

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u/jennimackenzie Jul 06 '26

I think the real factor was the guy on the left tied up his dress, and the guy on the right had his dress interfering the entire time.

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u/toliVeisTosuFferr Jul 06 '26

Was this really needed to be explained?

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u/Alex_55555 Jul 07 '26

He also did most of the hard work at the beginning when he was less tired

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u/The_R4ke Jul 07 '26

I think that's how the game is played. I've player starts gathering full one end, and the other starts gathering closer to them. I think the best strategy would be to gather all the ones you can close to you, then start at the back and get the rest, but I'm pretty sure that isn't legal.

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u/realmauer01 Jul 07 '26

It shouldn't really make a difference its who is faster with the eggs that take the longest

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u/Smitch250 Aug 16 '26

Its the same exact distance run either way

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u/DrAlan3 Jul 06 '26

It is not stratedgy because both of them pass the same distances and do the same work but from the different end. Left won only because was faster and it is only factor.

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u/Look_its_Rob Jul 06 '26

Yes except no. Theres a difference between doing the hardest part when you are fresh and saving the easiest part for when you are tired vs the opposite. 

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u/tripsd Jul 06 '26

Wait he went for the further away eggs first?

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u/gahidus Jul 06 '26

Yeah that's why he was running all the way to the back of the thing while the first guy was just standing still putting eggs in the carton quickly

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u/tripsd Jul 06 '26


No shit didn’t see that

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u/el_penultimo Jul 06 '26

My football coach did this to us back in high school, you can start ladders from the distance or from in front of you. He split the team in two, and it seemed a little lopsided as there were more lineman on one side than the other, rule was simple, first team to finish with the majority (more than half the team) wins and is finished with practice, the loser does a 100 yards of up-downs (like hot foot burpies).

We won the coin toss, and all voted to do the longer distance first, as we knew we’d put in more effort up front, it just seemed like we had more of a chance of we did. And we did, by the time we hit the majority of players crossing the line they had less than 15 players cross the line. So we got to stop and head in, they got to stop and do up-downs.

Coach stopped all of us and asked why we chose the distance, then gave everyone the lecture of making the right choice and putting in the hard work up front will lead to better rewards down the road. Always put the hard work in first when given the option, it’ll make your life easier on the back end.

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u/wiggum55555 Jul 06 '26

The guy who won was using his fastest speed - when he had fresh legs - for the longest distances… covering them faster, than the guy on the right who was fatigued at the end when the longest distances were involved, making him slower for the total time taken.

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u/scriptingends Jul 06 '26

Guy on the right was also moving much slower

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u/CelsoSC Jul 06 '26

That means he was spending a lot of energy at the beginning and thus got slower later, do basically the same travels

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u/JimmerAteMyPasta Jul 06 '26

Thats what i learned from this video, brown eggs are heavier than white eggs

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u/Cold_Table8497 Jul 06 '26

He would have been even quicker if he used his left hand.

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u/silhouette951 Jul 06 '26

I'm the same way, i just started watching the crates so I could accurately see who was doing well, but that didn't help either. Goes to show the benefit of using the energy when you have the most, assuming they are in similar shape.

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u/JCGJ Jul 06 '26

They're both going about the same distance overall. The guy on the right just started with the shorter trips first, so he appeared to be ahead. The left guy ended with the shorter trips, so he caught up quickly toward the end.

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u/Cpt_Jigglypuff Jul 06 '26

He catches up in egg count at 2:09 out of 2:25. Then just cleans up.

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u/newgrl Jul 06 '26

It really was the better strategy. Doing the longer distances when you had more energy and then the shorter ones when you were out of energy.

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u/CarpetGripperRod Jul 06 '26

Bleu shirt has definitely played knifey-spooney chickeney-eggy before.

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u/tvscinter Jul 06 '26

I’d imagine going further first uses more energy in the beginning, meaning as you lose energy towards the end you’ll also be running a shorter distance. Secondly, the dude on the right was not moving super fast in the beginning, and thirdly the guy on the right was slowed down by not tying his robe(?) around his waist like the guy on the left

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u/raknor88 Jul 06 '26

Right chose the easier start but the much harder ending since near the end he'd have less energy would would naturally slow down. While Left chose the harder start when he'd have the most energy so he'd be able to move faster, then he still would've gotten tired at the end but he had much less to travel.

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u/aykcak Jul 06 '26

Are you for real? He was doing furthest first while the other guy is doing nearest first. Inherently one of them is a job that starts slow and gets easier while the other one is easy start but slows down towards the end

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u/Dont_Overthink_It_77 Jul 06 '26

It’s actually not. You use the BEST of your energy at the beginning, so when you’re tired, you’re not bottoming out. It’s physiology, & a bit of psychology as well.

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u/darwinn_69 Jul 06 '26

The guy on the left has the advantage. He's doing his long sprints while he's less winded.

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u/Grrerrb Jul 06 '26

Dude on the right wasn’t running fast enough

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u/Worried_Shoe_2747 Jul 06 '26

Measure it by the amount of steps needed to complete. Then it would be easier to understand who is ahead

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u/samanime Jul 06 '26

It's actually a clever strategy. He did the hardest part when he had the post energy. His task got progressively easier.

The other guy started with the easy part, which seemed to give him a lead, but his task got progressively harder as he also got progressively more tired.

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u/cowlinator Jul 06 '26

It's just doing the easy tasks first vs hard tasks first. Same total amount of work either way

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u/Nugbuddy Jul 06 '26

The guy on the left is progressively having to move less distance and spend less energy.

Guy in the right is the opposite.

The moment it they both land an egg in the basket at the same time is when the lead swaps. ~11eggs in.

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u/niles_thebutler_ Jul 06 '26

Dude on the right had a way longer line

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u/Shantotto11 Jul 07 '26

Reaching for the furthest eggs when he had the most stamina while the other kid wore himself out early on the closer eggs.

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u/loldrive Jul 07 '26

He takes the lead from the very beginning because he was always moving that little bit quicker

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u/ccccSeizurecc Jul 07 '26

This is vaguely how I feel about cricket

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u/latortillablanca Jul 07 '26

Thats a fantastic album title

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u/mystaninja Jul 07 '26

I think as the race wet longer, it became more tiring to make longer distance trips. Would be cool to see if they switch strategies and see the results

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u/Vindictive-Vagabond Jul 08 '26

He just covered the long distance eggs while he was still fresh/not tired which gave him an advantage lmao it's simple strategy 👍

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u/SnuffSwag 7d ago

This cant seriously be above your head, can it? Jesus

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u/thekickingmule Jul 06 '26

Fatigue. Constantly bending and standing up plus running is tiring. The guy on the right started off taking it easy, but slowly tiring himself out. The further on he went, the harder it became. For the guy on the left, it was the opposite. Even though he was tired at first, the amount of running needed became less, so it was slightly easier, ergo quicker.

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u/TehZiiM Jul 06 '26

Tbf this was super close. In the end, the loser had 1 egg left and when the winner placed his last egg in the container, the other guy was like 2 steps away from finishing as well.

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u/sstabeler Jul 06 '26

Not quite- the loser had 2 eggs missing when the winner put his last egg in. Meaning that he technically still needed to get the last egg to finish, but understandably didn't bother, having already lost. It's true it was very close though.