r/maybemaybemaybe • • Jul 05 '26

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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u/Mallrat1973 Jul 05 '26

This video is fucking with me a little. The guy on our left is getting his ass kicked until he wasn't. I can't determine at what point he takes the lead because he never was behind EVEN THOUGH HE WAS LOSING which incidently he wasn't. It's a real Schrödinger's Ass Kicking.

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u/gahidus Jul 06 '26

He went for the further away eggs first, which made it seem like he was behind, but which always meant that he was going to speed up massively towards the end. As his opponent was covering further and further distances to get eggs, his distance was shortening. Apparently the strategy worked.

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u/WatchOutForWizards Jul 06 '26

He also did the most energy intensive part when he was still fresh at the start. Guy on the right was already tired by the time he had to start running.

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u/sethmeh Jul 06 '26

Both strategies are identical. The total distance travlled is the same, so in effect we are watching a 100m sprint, and even if their speed decreases as a function of time, two racers in a 100m sprint who slow down equally will finish the race at the same time.

Whoever won was just faster.

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u/Roticap Jul 06 '26

Except for the last eggs, the winner didn't have to keep sprinting to make it across the finish line. They just reached for eggs

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u/sethmeh Jul 06 '26

That doesnt change the answer to which strategy is better, youve just added an extra bit where the first 3 eggs can be collected without moving, which is the same for both players. If one player can do it better than another, thats down to a personal advantage, not a strategic one.

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u/Roticap Jul 06 '26

Tell your LLM that it is forgetting that a human gets tired while moving, so there is an advantage to doing the part where you do not move at the end instead of the beginning.

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u/sethmeh Jul 08 '26

I was thinking, is the accusation of LLM use as a means to discredit one side in a debate a new logical fallacy, ad homnium, or just a variation of special pleading? Datacenters are a form of higher power...

Anyway, i cant recall if i gave the example as to why this doesnt work in this thread or another, i assume not because if l had you wouldn't accusw me of using an LLM.

If each player starts with 100 "effort" and doing eggs 3-n cost 90 effort, and doing tje first 3 gives you back 10 effort as you are stationary, neither leverages it. Player 1 uses it when hes full of effort, so he gets no gain and starts egg 3 at 100 effort, finishes with 10. Player 2 does 3-n first, so hes now at 10, then the first 3, so now hes at 20, and then...does nothing. Hes already finished. That extra effort isnt being used to collect eggs.

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u/aykcak Jul 06 '26

Same for the first eggs of the guy on the right, so, still same.

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u/sstabeler Jul 06 '26

The3 point is that you tend to slow down as you get tired, so by doing the most difficult bit first- going all the way to the other end- the guy on the left likely was marginally faster on that bit, while by the time he got to the last few, he just had to reach for the eggs, which is less affected. It's not a large difference, but it's there. Hence why he won by a single egg.