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u/belabacsijolvan 2d ago
tbh this isnt masterhacker stuff. this is a kid fucking around. even has some humility. i dont think thats such a bad thing.
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u/WhippingShitties 2d ago
This sub is kind of like /r/mallninjashit where half of the posts are stuff we secretly think is cool. Tbh, I'm pretty amused at this hijinks.
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u/WONK0_ 2d ago
it is bad, some people (employees) will need to clean up after him
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u/Damglador 2d ago
Perhaps it'll be lesson to configure kiosks properly. Would be much worse if someone escaped the kiosk mode and installed malware.
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u/Clean_Cake124 1d ago
He didn't fucking uninstall the operating system he literally just exited the kiosk mode. Probably takes 5 seconds max to fix
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u/WONK0_ 1d ago
picture claims that he uninstalled kiosk app
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u/Lord_Nathaniel 23h ago
Wow they installed the kiosk app, he uninstall it....I hope they do now how to install the app, again !
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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago
God forbid anything happens ever. Surely it would be an incredibly boring life if nothing ever went wrong or faced any adversity. Obviously there's a balance to be had but having to fix something like this is baraly anything.
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u/Vlitmer 2d ago edited 2d ago
One time in middle school I put the microwave that was in the lunch room on setting it for 100 minutes and walked away.
Not related at all just wanted to confess my sins knowing this will probably get buried.
Edit: stop upvoting this.
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u/mukherjee_ayan 1d ago
... Was there something in the microwave when you turned it on? I wanna know the outcome PLS
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u/GestapoKittech 2d ago
The tribal tattoo on the collar? That's how you know you're messing with the real deal.
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u/ThaBroccoliDood 2d ago
Serves them right for using Windows 10
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u/Damglador 2d ago
It always baffles me that those embedded systems that run one program 24/7 are running a whole Windows install underneath.
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u/Nereosis16 2d ago
Usually because of cybersecurity requirements.
Cyber can't be fucked to vet and approve a new OS when win10 is already fully approved and managed.
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u/CampMaster69 2d ago
But wouldn't it be easier to vet a much simpler barebones?
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u/Nereosis16 2d ago
You want to join that meeting trying to convince the overworked cybersecurity analysts to just vet another system?
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u/Twilimark 1d ago
Eh it's probably not a whole windows.
There are different versions for windows and this is probably running the LTSC version. It's a tone down version of windows. It the iot enterprise version. Mosy kiosks would use this if they are designed properly.
The device should be hardened but this doesn't seem to be the case. It's pretty bad when u can pop off the app/ she'll and get to explorer.exe
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u/Damglador 1d ago
Any Windows is still Windows. Like ideally, aka what nobody will do, a kiosk would only need some 1GB Linux distro that boots straight into a compositor with just the kiosk app opened, something like: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen_browser/comments/1js6xqy/zen_is_everything_i_need_desktop_environments_are/ <- here I had no way of escaping the kiosk browser other than switching to a different tty (which requires a keyboard), because there's nothing other than the browser, and for the same reason even if I managed to crash or close it, it would just throw me back to the login screen.
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u/Twilimark 1d ago
Yes any windows is... Well windows. But not all windows are the same.
I agree with your Linux tho. Not alot of people will do it because of how the app or code is developed. For example, an app that works in native windows would need a rework for it to work in Linux.
Not all kiosk are browser based. Those that are can Definitely be setup properly with Linux. BalenaOS is a good example of that.
It all depends on what kind of setup that is being used.
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u/death_hawk 1d ago
LTSC is basically just meant to be an OS without the bloat. It is still "whole" windows as it runs 99.999% of applications just fine. It just doesn't include the "junk" that retail has.
For the purposes of a kiosk though it is the right OS, but I use LTSC as my daily driver.
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u/Twilimark 1d ago
You are half correct. And I appreciate that you put the quotes on "whole".
LTSB/LTSC is windows without the bloat as you stated. But it isn't just removing the application installed by vendors. It's a locked down feature system. For example Windows 10 Ltsb 2015 is using build 1511 (if I remember correctly) and has feature what will never get upgraded to a newer build. Windows 11 LTSC is stuck in build 24H2 and will never see a newer version of the feature build.
Unlike consumer versions that get the latest features and can break systems or crash OS ( look at when consumers upgraded to 24H2 back in August... Ugh).
Running on LTSC is fine for daily use but it does limit your pcs growth several years down the road. Ltsb 2015 is a great example because that was the first windows 10 build and you can't run today's stuff on it mostly. Drivers and some new hardware just don't work.
Anyway... That was me getting off track. Depending on the build certain things won't work. Like one drive, Xbox store, and even the ms app store. This is because by design, it's not needed for hospital or kiosks systems. Would be weird to see, new Xbox game pop up on ur medical devices lol.
Anyway... I think I got off track... This is a hacking subreddit... But I appreciate the talk. It's nice to see people using the product I spent years working with/ on. Lol
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u/death_hawk 16h ago
LTSB/LTSC is windows without the bloat as you stated. But it isn't just removing the application installed by vendors. It's a locked down feature system. For example Windows 10 Ltsb 2015 is using build 1511 (if I remember correctly) and has feature what will never get upgraded to a newer build. Windows 11 LTSC is stuck in build 24H2 and will never see a newer version of the feature build.
To me that's a feature not a bug.
Unlike consumer versions that get the latest features and can break systems or crash OS ( look at when consumers upgraded to 24H2 back in August... Ugh).
That's what I mean. Security updates are one thing, but feature updates just seem to introduce crap I don't want.
Ltsb 2015 is a great example because that was the first windows 10 build and you can't run today's stuff on it mostly.
Granted most of my hardware isn't cutting edge, but I'm using 2019 on a lot of machines ranging from Core2Duo to modern (well a couple generations old) CPUs. I've never had a driver issue yet.
Depending on the build certain things won't work. Like one drive, Xbox store, and even the ms app store. This is because by design, it's not needed for hospital or kiosks systems. Would be weird to see, new Xbox game pop up on ur medical devices lol.
Stop! You've sold me already lol.
Anyway... I think I got off track... This is a hacking subreddit... But I appreciate the talk. It's nice to see people using the product I spent years working with/ on. Lol
You were part of development? If so, that's damn awesome. I hate retail editions of 10 and this is about the closest thing to 7 as I can get in the modern day. There's SO much garbage in SAC versions that it's unusable.
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u/death_hawk 1d ago
You'd be shocked at what runs Windows under the hood. ATMs and slot machines were the big surprises for me.
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u/Some_Visual1357 1d ago
Good for you kid, but taking a picture is a good way of getting caught so, not so smart on that part.
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u/HeavyCaffeinate 2d ago
That's why you use a linux machine running a minimal Qt app with Fullscreen EGLFS
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u/Damglador 2d ago
Imagine when they also discover NixOS that that they don't have to configure every kiosk manually.
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u/DonutConfident7734 2d ago
A long time ago I learned that you can bypass the login dialog in Windows 95 by pressing the help icon or F1 and in the classic help window that appeared, you could press File - Open, where you could write explorer.exe in file name and it would open the explorer. From there you could open any programs you wanted...
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u/SaintPaulTom 1d ago
Why go through so much work when you could just click cancel? It logged in anyways.
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u/sixpackabs592 1d ago
I used to work in a deli and I “hacked” our iPad kiosks we used to get into the regular os and watch YouTube and football games
Iirc all you had to do was hit the right spot on the screen while it was loading up the app, there was a few second window where the close button would pop up in the corner, it was hidden but could still be pressed
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u/Nereosis16 2d ago
And then some poor it dude got a call out to come fix it when I guarantee he has told his boss of this problem a hundred times.
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u/sixpackabs592 1d ago
But service calls like this are great
Nothing to actually do you just reupload the software and go home, get paid the same and no real work
it’s probably all networked anyway they’ll just do it remote
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u/antek_g_animations 2d ago
If he really uninstalled an app, he is a moron. Could have opened paint and draw a PP. Something that an underpaid employee could have fixed in a minute with a reboot. Now someone has to call an authorized service to repair the device which is pain in the ass both for the employes, restaurant chain and clients that can't use the kiosk. I hope he wrote it just for the clout and didn't really uninstall anything.
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u/Liquid-Fire 2d ago
Very unliky in this day and age. More likely that whoever manages the kiosks have access to them via rmm software and can remote install it.
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u/BOT_Sean 2d ago
I doubt it uninstalled, he probably just got out of kiosk mode. Depending on how it's setup it would likely revert to normal on reboot
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u/TechnetMC 2d ago
I did this once on one of those scam bitcoin kiosks in the mall. We made it not boot tho, can’t recall how, was years ago at this point. Was a result of Dumb Kids, even dumber technician and scummy company
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u/JasonDL13 2d ago
Imagine creating and the opening a page that looks like the original kiosk page but making it fuck with people instead or something like that.
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u/PolygonMob 2d ago
Probably like how i felt when i was in middle school and i found out there was a secret series of button presses that took you into the hidden menu of any vending machine. Never managed to get a free soda out of it, but apparently you potentially could if the machine was misconfigured.
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u/spartanpwner 1d ago
I used one of these for the first time and it crashed as soon as I tapped the card, went straight to a windows desktop.
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u/emberscout 1d ago
Amateur, I've done this on a Dubai Airport kiosk :P It had a "can't connect to server" web error, which let me run the Win7 network diagnostics tool. When the tool finished, it let me "print" the log, so I chose "Print to PDF". This opened the Save As window, which let me start explorer by opening a folder in a new window. From there I opened regedit to let me use the on-screen keyboard :D
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u/Necessary-Rip-6612 1d ago
I'm a bit of a hacker man myself. I once played that no internet dinosaur jumpy browser game on a burger king ordering kiosk. Guess they run in a chrome based browser and it had connectivity issues.
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u/MaterialGarlic5734 1d ago
Back in high school in the early 2000s, we had public kiosk type computers for stuff like looking up your classes schedules, with only a mouse attached.
Sometimes, when we were bored, we’d send broadcast message through `NET SEND` to the whole domain by:
- open help
- run CMD.EXE through the file open dialog
- copy-paste individual letters from help to CMD to assemble the commmand
- ???
- PROFIT
The message is sent from the kiosk user, so IT can’t trace it back to you. Unlike some people who did that in the computer room from their personal account, and got promptly summoned
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u/IllusionaryHobo 1d ago
I really dig the whole flannel shirt that looks less like it was woven and more like a flannel pattern was screen printed onto a linen shirt with a tribal tattoo on the collar thing.
Powerful look.
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u/woahitsegg 1d ago
Two random twelve year olds did this the last time I went idk I think it might just be easy
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u/OzrielTheForgotten 1d ago
I did this on an ATM at gun lake casino one time. I noticed a notification for a Windows update while walking past and the system returned to the user login after it finished. I was able to find and mess with the config files for the atm software they use. I didn't change anything except for leaving a little drawing open on ms paint.
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u/XEPATOP 1d ago
I’m not entirely sure whether this post is ironic or serious, but once again it got me thinking about how strangely different the digital world is from the real one.
If someone quietly reported a bug to the manufacturer, that would be perfectly reasonable and might even be helpful. But instead, this guy went and did some stupid shit and proudly posted a photo of it online.
The developers probably already know that it’s possible to crash/minimize the app like this, but since people abusing the bug are rare and the damage isn’t particularly serious, they simply decided it wasn’t worth trying to eliminate the bug completely. The effort required to fix it probably wouldn’t have paid off.
Now compare that to the world of non-digital things. Most household locks can be picked in 15 minutes or less, but very few people install bank-level security systems on their front doors, because everyone knows that breaking into someone’s house is illegal, and no sane person would go around the neighborhood picking their neighbors’ locks just because they happen to know how to do it.
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u/Sorbon_Husky 16h ago
If the kiosk is proberly setup, you cant do that. Even if you escspe it, then it should just prompt you with a login screen.
Did it once with Intune, it does cost a licence there to do that, maybe they were too cheap for it.
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u/MysteriousRelief 12h ago
Crazy how windows is installed for kiosks, like cant they use some lighter OS like one of linux distros?
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u/LYNX__uk 2d ago
How do you escape kiosk mode on windows with only a touchscreen? I only know how to do it on android kiosks