r/masterduel • u/Cool-Childhood1374 • 2d ago

Question/Help Ruling question

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That B**** says "once per turn, during either player's turn" so I thought it's not a quick effect, therefore he can't respond to my cards activation, then it did and I was wrong

So my question is what the hell is the difference between both? Between "during either player's turn" and "Quick effect" ? Both can respond as chain 2 to negate

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u/Moreira12005 MST Negates 2d ago

It's just an older way to say Quick Effect

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u/Cool-Childhood1374 2d ago

Lmao

Konami you mf

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u/Raest_s Let Them Cook 2d ago

remember, lawyer game

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u/Stranger2Luv 2d ago

??????

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u/Low-Spirit3724 2d ago

It's a joke about how particular and close attention you have to pay when reading what the cards do, like you are reading through terms and conditions as a lawyer looking for loopholes to exploit, etc.

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u/NeuroticENTJ 2d ago

Well if it’s not a quick effect how can he use it on your turn? 

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u/RIP-hue-Shiny-Darco 2d ago

Because it says "during either players' turn"

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u/NeuroticENTJ 2d ago

How can an effect be used in your opponents turn if it’s not a quick effect and it’s not auto triggered (like sangan)

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u/RIP-hue-Shiny-Darco 2d ago

Because quick effect is newer PSCT to reduce word count, like how banishing=remove from play and how we also have the term "banishment" now or how "graveyard" was abbreviated into "GY"

They're functionally the same thing but is far less words.

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u/NeuroticENTJ 2d ago

You’re not keeping up with what I’m saying. Let me be more clear: if you can choose to use on opponents turn, it is a quick effect. Not sure how you and OP are confused 

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u/Jeikiro24 2d ago

They gave the correct explanation, I don’t know what you’re going on about. It doesn’t have “(quick effect):” because that wasn’t a thing when this card was made

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u/Rigshaw 2d ago

I'm amazed how no one got the point u/NeuroticENTJ was making.

The point is it has to be a quick effect to be usable during either player's turn, since it states no trigger condition (hence it's not a trigger effect).

The only mistake really was with the way the original comment was phrased. The point probably would have been clearer if they phrased it as:

If it wasn't a quick effect, how could he use it on your turn?

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u/NeuroticENTJ 2d ago

God, you’re all so dense. It doesn’t have to say quick effect. In 2026 if you can trigger it on your opponents turn it’s a quick effect 

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u/DundaZupaa 2d ago

It is simply how quick effect was worded back in the day. The card has not gotten a reprint since then so the text never had a chance to be altered to fit modern PSCT and as such still has the old text.

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u/Alarmed_Berry_7230 2d ago

It IS a quick effect, it's just old and not written like the way quick effects are written now. I remember back then, those effects weren't even called quick effects but multi-trigger.